The third night of the #DemConvention ends with a @POTUS and @HillaryClinton hug https://t.co/cTM7ACBFDz pic.twitter.com/oRzTJtX0Xq
— POLITICO (@politico) July 28, 2016
I've never seen so much unanimity — conservatives, liberals, everyone — on an Obama speech. Everyone thought it was great.
— Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp) July 28, 2016
The President of the United States is literally making the case for democracy over authoritarianism. In 2016.
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) July 28, 2016
For me, personally, Joe Biden's speech was the most effective case against Trump. Basically, "C'mon. You were raised better than this."
— Michael B Dougherty (@michaelbd) July 28, 2016
A speech to make Republican elites feel sickened (as they should be) by what their party has nominated.
— Ross Douthat (@DouthatNYT) July 28, 2016
The little laugh in Obama's voice as he savages Trump's business career is going to drive Tweety McThinskin absolutely insane.
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) July 28, 2016
Interesting side note:
"Together, let's elect a sane, competent person" is the sentence of the election. https://t.co/7D3KgFVFDZ
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) July 28, 2016
Unless I am missing something, Bloomberg is the first major public figure to openly question Trump's sanity. It was not in the embargo rmrks
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 28, 2016
Quite literally, Bloomberg can afford to say it. He’s an actual billionaire; Trump’s not gonna threaten him, because if he goes too far Mike could buy Trump Tower, evict Donald, and never even bother to take a victory lap in public. Donald knows this. Mike knows Donald knows this. Donald knows Mike knows Donald knows this, and I sincerely hope it’s driving him (even further) off balance!
Still impossible to know how November plays out, but Trump/GOP made mistake in Cleveland of ceding the optimistic/hopeful message
— Mark Murray (@mmurraypolitics) July 28, 2016
I started the evening saying for the first time I thought Trump could win. Then Obama spoke. I’m so angry at my own party right now.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) July 28, 2016
The GOP offered a vision of doom, despair, and division. Tonight the President I think divides us offered optimism. I hate this year.
— Erick Erickson (@EWErickson) July 28, 2016
American exceptionalism and greatness, shining city on hill, founding documents, etc–they're trying to take all our stuff
— Rich Lowry (@RichLowry) July 28, 2016
1) Those are American things, not just GOP things;
2) The GOP is stupidly, willingly giving this stuff away. https://t.co/iVlDVh7DRR— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) July 28, 2016
"Shining city on a hill" was Mario Cuomo's first, you plagiarizers. https://t.co/PuvksY9taX
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) July 28, 2016
Trump left all of that lying in the street; you can't blame them for taking it and running with it. https://t.co/vLL8N5vFxX
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) July 28, 2016
a) It's not your stuff b) you sold it for ten cents to a screaming racist cantaloupe https://t.co/UOLZKJN5Sh
— Dan Munz (@dan_munz) July 28, 2016
Obama wants the election to be about democrat vs authoritarian, not democrat vs Republican
— Andrew Beatty (@AndrewBeatty) July 28, 2016
@AndrewBeatty @KtHathSpoken Truth be told, the GOP surrendered the choice of terrain by nominating an authoritarian. This is on them.
— Go Big Rev (@ScotAlanJohnson) July 28, 2016
Decided to give R's permission to abandon Trump as an outlier rather than taunt them as his enablers https://t.co/XWgLnw80PI
— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) July 28, 2016
amk
Great headsmacks to that pos lowry, who started it all in 2008 with tundra twit.
hellslittlestangel
Trump is going to have to work hard to capture 30% of the vote. And he’s not a hard worker.
JGabriel
Rich Lowry, 2008:
Rich Lowry, 2016:
That’s American stuff, Rich, and we’re taking it back from the conservatives who have been hogging it all up for themselves.
But you can keep Sarah Palin and her starbursts.
Keith P.
It is pretty spectacular how easily and far Trump is dragging the GOP. Paul Ryan has endorsed a guy who is now flirting with allying with Russia, asking Russia to engage in cyberwarfare with us, AND bump minimum wage up to $10 nationwide. I (and most everyone else) thought Trump would embarrass them, but this is straight-up crazy. I can very easily see Russia invading some Baltic states with Trump’s tacit approval, and Saudi Arabia gets hit with an overthrow attempt after weakening themselves with a price war. At that point, you have WWIII, with Russia seeing opportunity to expand in the instability.
EconWatcher
Apologies for double-posting, but I just put this on an apparently dead thread. In his great speech, Obama never said “I’m with her.”
There’s a reason for that: Obama pointed out all of Trump’s self-referential and narcissistic slogans, claiming he is the only one who can restore order and fix things, and contrasted them with Obama’s own slogan of “yes, we can.” Obama said democracy is about what we can do together, not what one person promises to do, especially an aspiring strongman. Obama suggested that the slogans Trump uses expose him as an authoritarian with contempt for self-government. Just so.
But that discussion also shows that “I’m with her” is flawed, especially for a fight with Trump. Trump scored some points when he sneered at “I’m with her,” saying instead that “I’m for you.” I think Obama recognizes that, and was providing some gentle guidance.
Hillary needs to dump “I’m with her” and adopt some kind of slogan that includes “we” as the subject and an active verb, to incorporate that notion of self-government that Obama emphasized.
JGabriel
hellslittlestangel:
Don’t gloat, not yet. Wait until after Election Day for gloating.
After all, we’re Democrats – if we try really hard, we can still fuck this up:
JGabriel
EconWatcher:
Something like, We’re Stronger Together?
EconWatcher
@JGabriel:
Good point. But I see “I’m with her” everywhere, at least as a logo. “We’re stronger together” would be better as the main thrust.
EBT
@JGabriel: He isn’t even using American Exceptionalism right.
amk
@EconWatcher: He made it very clear he is with her. And it resonates with many.
JGabriel
EBT:
Agreed, I think that’s what we’ll be seeing going forward after tonight.
Although, honestly, with an opponent like Trump, I think I’m With Her still has its merits.
Conservatives never do.
Pangloss
The GOP gave up on actual policy years ago. Their policy aims and tactics are almost exclusively informed by how it damages, impedes, or confounds their political opponents. They routinely stock important federal government jobs with partisan hacks who often carry out the By the beginning of GWB’s second term, FEMA was managed by horse show judge and Bush Pioneer Michael Brown, Alberto freakin’ Gonzales was Attorney General, Harriet Miers was on the SCOTUS short list, and Monica Goodling was investigating GOP party loyalty among prospective United States Attorneys. In this election cycle, they ceded authorship of their party platform to people like Tony Perkins– that’s why their 2016 platform has insane planks like disapproving of co-habitation, citing porn as a public health crisis, promoting implementation of gay conversion therapy for kids, elimination of all federal funding of public transportation, and bible study in public schools (look it up).
Schlemazel Khan
@amk:
You give Lowery too much credit. The GOP started down this road in 1980. They have a pretty, more sophisticated face on the monster but its the same one. Buchanan’s ’92 “it sounded better in the original German” speech was publicly rejected but it is of the same cloth. Celebrating ignorance as a basic tenet of the GOP can even be seen in St. Reagan’s dismissive comments about scientists & “so-called experts”
They have spent years building this titanic.
Keith G
Last night I watched the best set of multiple speeches I have ever witnessed and then spent an hour or so on an energy high gabbing with friends. Now up am getting ready for work after barely four hours of sleep.
Thanks Obama!
OzarkHillbilly
Fuck Rich “starbursts” Lowry and the Republican flag waving curb stomping of gays/blacks/hispanics/muslims/boogieman of the day elephant he rode in on.
MattF
@EconWatcher: I suppose… ‘I’m with her’ invites an argument, and it’s not something Hilz herself can say.
Poopyman
@OzarkHillbilly: Day elephant? Man, you missed the G by 2 letters.
Not often that I miss having TV. Last night was one of those times. Add to the fact that I needed to be in bed by 9:30. Watching in real time beats the hell out of watching a day later.
OzarkHillbilly
I loved this from the guardian:
“Gotta up my game after that.”
Aimai
@EconWatcher: “gentle guidance?” Oh for fucks sake could you be any more condescending? Thanks for implying that hillary and her team had nothing to do with their own convention and were not consulted sbout obama’s approach-/by the way obama used the phrase “im with her” in his original endorsement.
PurpleGirl
Bloomberg made two very good comments: (1) that Trump is one of the stingyist and cheap billionaires as concerns philanthropy. And Bloomberg knows — while he prefers to give quietly and anonmously (to the extent permitted by law), he GIVES. Twenty-five million a year is not uncommon for him; (2) I loved the comment about Hillary knowing the difference between reality television and reality.
OzarkHillbilly
@Poopyman: I revel in the freedom of watching stuff when it suits me, but yeah something is lost.
amk
@PurpleGirl:
I read somewhere that bloomberg’s charity has given 5 billion while the deadbeat’s gave literally zilch.
How could so many murkans be so easily get conned by this pos?
TheMightyTrowel
Dan Munz up top (racist cantaloupe tweet) was my little sib at college. Small fucking world.
rikyrah
Good Morning ?, Everyone ?
raven
@TheMightyTrowel: What’s a sib?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PurpleGirl: $25 million a year would be change Bloomberg found in his sofa. I saw somewhere that in the past 10 years he’s given $2.5 billion to charity and Trump, $0.
rikyrah
@Keith G:
Me too.
Paying for enjoying last night so much ??
amk
?BillinGlendaleCA
@amk:
We don’t have a functional news media.
TheMightyTrowel
@raven: it’s a mentoring thing. Upper classmen are the big sib(ling) to lower classmen to help them settle in, make friends and generally get some peer support
rikyrah
@amk:
I think the figure over the past 5 years was
Bloomberg- $2.8 billion
Trump -0
amk
@rikyrah: Ok, thanks.
Schlemazel Khan
@raven:
I believe it is a fraternity term for the younger student you mentor in the frat.
EDIT: mighty beat me to it!
rikyrah
@EconWatcher:
Someone months ago suggested
SHE’S WITH US.
I liked that.
amk
@?BillinGlendaleCA: True. The media mofos continue to give him all kindsa passes even now. “Russia, get her mails” should have killed this treasonous punk’s campaign yesterday and yet crickets.
OzarkHillbilly
@amk: They’re Republican voters. It’s a habit for them.
raven
@TheMightyTrowel: Cool, thanks.
raven
@Schlemazel Khan: My old man came home from WWll and walked up to the Sigma Nu house with his seabag on his shoulder. He wanted me to pledge when I came home and went to school but. . . .nahhhhhh!
Eric S.
@hellslittlestangel: Trump should have to work hard to get 30 total votes but he’ll get over 40%. Probably 45% to 48%.
Prove me wrong, America. Sincerely, please prove me wrong.
PurpleGirl
@amk: One reason is that Bloomberg personally and then when the Foundation was finally finished being set-up gave quietly. When the non-profit I worked for received a series of special gifts from Bloomberg I was told not to write the usual thank you letter and receipt. The gifts were transmitted electronically, not with paper checks. There were often news articles but he tried not to tout his generosity. In many ways he is a private man.
Trump is only a braggart and a lying one at that.
TheMightyTrowel
@raven: I’m with you. Frats/sororities never made sense to me at all!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Yesterday was the 10th anniversary of the passing of our beloved Wendy(our first cocker); it would have also been my mom’s 90th b-day.
PurpleGirl
@?BillinGlendaleCA: In the late 1990s and early 2000 he gave a series of special gifts, which I should have clarified. My organization was included in that group.
Caravelle
Listening to that Donald Trump press conference. About the emails and the Horrible Things they said about Sanders and his religion :
HAHAHA right Donald.
For that matter the whole beginning of this speech is so thick with projection it’s hard to believe it could possibly not blow back on him – indicting Clinton’s disloyalty to people who work for her by talking about Debbie Wasserman Schultz and saying she’s like “you’re fired”… I’m firmly of the belief that the people who are inspired by Trump are inspired by his manner and authoritarianism and don’t care about what he says, or most of the usual things people who are into politics feel are obvious failings… But even I have trouble seeing how one can look at this and not immediately think “wait, that’s HIS catchphrase” and why he wouldn’t think that’s a problem.
Eric S.
By decree today is Ozzie’s birthday. He’s 5. A friend of a friend find him in their back yard around Halloween and couldn’t keep him. He was judged to be about 3 months old at the time. We’ve already celebrated some by chasing a milk ring and belly rubs. We decide on July 28 so he and I could celebrate together.
J R in WV
@JGabriel:
Anyone who says
is so obviously in the tank for the authoritarian party of America. Rich Lowry is a complete ass, and doesn’t deserve to have an opportunity to make his stupid points to a huge media audience.
Palin wasn’t doing well, her smile was a dumb simper, and she trashed the campaign she was recruited to rescue. One of the few smart things Trump has done was tell her to go back to Alaska.
I hope that Trump’s near treason yesterday will put the election our of his reach. Bloomberg was right – the man is completely and totally incompetent to run a nation. He can’t ever run his business without going into bankruptcy repeatedly,4, 5, 6 times? With total control over every variable.
Running a huge nation in the giant world, with uncontrolled variables jumping up constantly, Trump wouldn’t make any sense right off. Much less a year into it, and still not sure what NATO was and why it was important. Another Republican sociopath after G W Bush and Richard M Nixon may just ruin any chance of recovery from the ruins Trump would leave us in.
Anne Laurie
@Eric S.: Happy birthday & many happy returns to the both of you!
rikyrah
@Eric S.:
Awe. Too cute.
Happy birthday ☺
?BillinGlendaleCA
@J R in WV: The President noted this as well at the WHCD as he was having OBL taken out.
satby
@Eric S.: Happy Birthday to you and Ozzie! Hope it’s a great day!
SiubhanDuinne
@Eric S.:
Happy birthday to you both!
D58826
@JGabriel: As Nicole Wallace, on MSNBC enthused about Obama’s speech I half expected her to say that if Obama could run for a third term she would vote for him
Joel
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Not sure that’s it. Sinclair Lewis was writing something close to this exact scenario some eighty years ago.
Frankensteinbeck
Lowry is just mad because ‘American exceptionalism’ is supposed to mean ‘white people are the best!’
@amk:
Conned? He’s giving them what they want. So, you can throw ‘claiming to be generous while being a selfish asshole’ on the pile of things they either don’t care about, or actively get a thrill from.
sdhays
@Keith P.: I can see Russia invading Baltic states with Trump’s tacit approval only for Trump to panic and change his mind because of a world-wide freak-out that he’s too stupid to anticipate. And then we’re at war with a nuclear power in Europe.
msdc
@EconWatcher:
You mean like this one?
Aleta
@OzarkHillbilly: Oh YES
Aleta
@Eric S.: Happy birthday to you, and a toast to Ozzie
rumpole
@EconWatcher: I agree–I hate that slogan. It misses the point.
She’s with us.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Eric S.:
Happy birthday to both of you!
Spider-Dan
@rikyrah: I’ve got some good news for you: they’re already on top of it. (apologies for tiny pic, that’s the best copy I could find)
Splitting Image
@EconWatcher:
I think that Clinton is a stand-in for all women where “I’m with her” is concerned, especially since Trump voters are using him as a stand-in for all white men. Trump really doesn’t have much to recommend him on his own, and you don’t have to be all that great of a feminist to think that you should vote for the woman when the man in the race is as toxic as Trump is. This election is going to be among other things a referendum on whether Americans will vote for a woman at all, given such a nasty alternative.
That said, I do agree that balancing the phrase with “She’s with us” is a good idea. It follows from the first and continues the contrast with Trump.