Figured Trump would have a hissy fit over the convention speeches, especially actual multi-billionaire Michael Bloomberg’s criticism. Yep:
@realDonaldTrump Hey, but that's not what you said ever before, you feckless dimwit. pic.twitter.com/BRv2eECeZW
— JordanHeath-Rawlings (@TheGameSheet) July 29, 2016
He was yelling at people with his stumpy little thumbs all morning. I think we’re getting to the ambulatory Tang-colored scrotal sac, y’all!
dmsilev
To quote Madame President-To-Be, “A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons”.
amk
The rest of the world doesn’t know whether to be amused or terrified by this moron.
Cacti
Trump is a narcissist.
The best way to get under his skin is to point out that he’s a mediocrity, and there’s ample material for that.
trollhattan
Trump voter: “I like lamp.”
dmsilev
So tragic when old loves have a messy breakup.
Gin & Tonic
@amk: I don’t know anyone living outside the US who is amused.
FortGeek
“Dainty digits”…haaaaahahahahahahaha!
Clinton only has to drop the hook in the water anymore; that boy’s gonna hit it with or without bait.
Face
Someone with very strong Google- and Twitter-Fu could almost certainly find contradictory tweets/quotes for every single one of his current positions. Hell, he once said very nice things about HRC. I’m guessing his interviews with Stern are a goldmine of derp.
And yet, this wanton inconsistency and extraordinary level of position-shifting wont cost him a single supporter. Perhaps the youngs and waffles may be scared into avoiding this disaster, but I’m not counting on it.
David Byron Hopson
“ambulatory Tang-colored scrotal sac” – wonderful phrase!
West of the Cascades
@FortGeek: she can dangle the hook three feet above the water and the orange pike-minnow will leap at it.
Dork
@amk: If you believe the anecdotal stories coming out every few weeks, they’re scared shitless.
slag
I’m sticking with Angry Circus Peanut as my favorite Trump descriptor. It just says it all but in the nicest way possible.
Cacti
@dmsilev:
I love that since she said that, Twitter has been trolling Trump with things like “Are you gonna take that from her, bro?”.
Trentrunner
That is a brilliant photoshop job, because Trump’s hands have definitely been shrunk, but just enough to not look obviously shopped. Well done, whoever!
ETA: Here’s the original photo, for reference: http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/45/33/33/9811652/5/920×920.jpg
dmsilev
Cheetos-faced ferret-wearing shitgibbon (courtesy of his recent Scottish trip) is my current favorite.
dmsilev
@Cacti: You know that whoever came up with that line, whether it was Clinton herself or one of her speechwriters, was thinking “dance, monkey, dance!”.
rikyrah
Dainty Digits..
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Mary G
“Feckless dimwit” is a good one.
rikyrah
The Convention Showed Confident Democrats and Progressives
by Martin Longman
July 29, 2016 12:00 AM
……………………………………..
The Democrats did not shy away from celebrating police officers and they went back to the well, over and over again, to emphasize their respect for the military and their concern for veterans. When some in the audience grew uncomfortable and chanted “No More Wars,” the new coalition drowned them out with “U-S-A” chants.
This was a Democratic Party that was fiercely positive about America and completely non-defensive and unapologetic about how their racial diversity, religious pluralism and cultural liberalism might alienate historically critical voting blocs.
Tim Kaine spoke a foreign language repeatedly during his speech, clearly demonstrating that the party does not give a shit about alienating the crowd that seethes when told to push ‘2’ for Spanish. Clinton adopted a more progressive set of policy prescriptions than any modern Democrat, in defiance of people’s expectations and the Clintons’ historical positioning as New Democrats. She was carving so much meat off the moderate Republican bone with her proudly American thematics that she was utterly unconcerned about pushing economic moderates into Trump’s arms.
This was basically the triumph of the counterculture–a kind of bat mitzvah for a decades-long movement–today, you are a woman.
Today, you are the mainstream.
No more apologizing for what you believe. No more bashing your own voters to win the support of bigots.
And because this new progressive movement knows that it is winning and that it owns the future, it’s positive about America. America is a good place that is headed in an even better direction, and they are not fearing any man.
These are all disorientating developments because they defy what people think they know about the Democratic Party and the Clintons and politics in general.
And it’s somewhat of a gamble because it’s still possible that the majority of people in this country do not want to be part of a pluralistic, multiethnic, socially liberal and tolerant society led by a party of people who want to enact a broad liberal agenda.
Betty Cracker
@Trentrunner: Why, thank you! (That’s the first time anyone has ever complimented my Photoshopping skills — because I actually suck at it! But this turned out well!)
kindness
I have to believe that middling Republicans won’t vote for the Donald. My folks were NE Repubs but they were nothing like the party is now. They’re no longer with us and there have been times I’ve wondered what they would think if they were alive now. My bet is they’d both be voting for Hillary as she’s closer to what they believed than Trump.
Uncle Cosmo
@FortGeek: Stumpffinger! You know there’s a parody or three floating around in there somewhere…
Redshift
@Dork: It’s kind if like when Shrub was reelected. A lot of people overseas were willing to cut us some slack about his screwy first election, but when Americans voted for him a second time, after everything, they had to contend with the fact that Americans really weren’t who they thought were.
FortGeek
@slag: I was calling him “possum” last year…but at some point inadvertently typed “scump”. I’m not as nice ;)
I’ve seen so many in the last year: Hair Fuehrer (or Furor), Combover Napoleon, Il Douche, The Conald, Cheddar Peril, der hairkoenig, scumpty dumpty…
Trentrunner
@Betty Cracker: Wow, good job! Thought it was a pro–and it was! :)
Btw, the Clinton Campaign should totally use this photograph all the time for Donald. It. Will. Kill. Him.
rikyrah
Rich LowryVerified account
@RichLowry
American exceptionalism and greatness, shining city on hill, founding documents, etc–they’re trying to take all our stuff
Martin Longman
@BooMan23 Martin Longman Retweeted Rich Lowry
Not trying, Starbursts. Your safe is empty.
amygdala
@Cacti: Exactly. It’s textbook narcissistic wound. With that single-molecule-thick skin of his, getting under it is trivially easy.
Schlemazel Khan
There is nothing dainty about Drumpfs fingers. Tiny little stumps are not dainty even if diminutive.
Dadadadadadada
@Face: I was going to post the quote about him saying in 1998 that the GOP is stupid and believes everything on Fox News, but it turns out that’s fake. [sad trombone]
? Martin
Man, the fallout from this election will be epic. Assuming that Clinton wins, the GOP is now split into 3 factions:
1) The Trump supporters that are largely old angry white guys that aren’t particularly loyal to long-held conservative principles like tax policy and instead are angry they are becoming a minority group and are lashing out at other minority groups.
2) The anti-Trump folks like Cruz who aren’t particularly alarmed by the anti-immigrant stance of the first group and believe that they need to get back to ultra-conservatism, taxes, abortion, small government, all that crap.
3) The anti-Trump folks like Kasich that are totally alarmed by the anti-immigrant stance, recognize that expanding the tent is critical to the survival of the GOP, recognize they need to get rid of some of the ultra-conservatism to attract these people.
If Trump wins, everyone is fucked. If Trump loses the GOP is still fucked because it’ll be an existential fight between the Kasich/Bush wing of the party and the Cruz/Tea Party wing of the party. And in that battle, they’ll lose a lot of the Trump supporters who are likely to throw up their arms in dispair. But in the process, the GOP is only going to get smaller – it’ll take some time before they can start attracting new voters and they’ll already be starting behind. Their best bet is for some calamity to befall Clinton or for the Democratic coalition to fall apart (Dems need to be very careful with the labor wing of the party).
CONGRATULATIONS!
Oh, so I guess he’s got advanced ratings numbers for the DNC convention and his sausage party got slaughtered. No shock.
Villago Delenda Est
Teh Donald is apparently unaware that once you put something on the ‘tubes, it never goes away.
Enhanced Voting Techinques
@Cacti:
NOOO!!! Must not get twitter, must resist…
“Come on Donny, I thought you were and an Alpha, not a Beta and you’re taking that from some chick?”
Villago Delenda Est
@? Martin: They lost a generation this past week. One party is positive, pro America, and welcoming. The other party is all about hate and fear.
FortGeek
@Uncle Cosmo: Nice. Kind of goes with the other Germanic ones, like “der hairkoenig.” Instead of Shirley Bassey belting out his theme, though, he deserves a cut-rate singer to go with his expensive-looking-dollar-store vibe. Someone who puts the KKK in his Kwality.
Punchy
This seems to be a huge victory in a key swing state.
Of course, they’ll likely follow the Kobach Method. Appeal this repeatedly to run the clock down to November 9th, and claim they’re going to continue these suppression tactics while under appeal. That’s what KS did.
CONGRATULATIONS!
@? Martin: Yes, they do, because once the Supreme Court is handled, labor is my one-issue vote. And the Dems have not been doing labor any favors these last few decades, although they haven’t gone after labor with an axe and Zyklon-B like the GOP has.
(Supreme Court has to come first because without it firmly on our side, labor and unions will simply have anything they win taken from them)
trollhattan
@Uncle Cosmo:
Shirley Bassey is still alive. I checked.
Villago Delenda Est
@FortGeek: Trumplethinskin
Poopyman
@rikyrah:
Then we’d better find out toot sweet.
Let’s go.
kdaug
Pay attention:
https://youtu.be/5lGoQhFb4NM
Brachiator
Surely, Trump must have hired someone to do his tweets, because his tiny little fingers would get tired out with all that typing.
God help us when he discovers angry emojis.
Hal
Had a friend post on Facebook asking the equivalent of “Gee, what would happen if no one voted?” I’m at a point now where I’m just going to say either the next President is going to be Trump or it’s going to be Hillary. There is no middle ground to any of this. No Gary Johnson, no Jill Stein, no write in Bernie Sanders. If you don’t want to vote, don’t vote, but enough with the fantasy scenarios that are not going to happen, and stop pretending anything good will come from your protest vote.
nominus
@rikyrah: Jesus Christ, that was like the samurai slash that takes Lowry’s head off and the body is still standing there not realizing it got killt.
Soylent Green
Here’s what Redstate commenter “pbdunl” had to say last night about the son of Khizr Khan:
To be fair, other commenters gave him shit for it. But I think a lot of godbotherers share this view; they just aren’t bold enough to voice it.
Shalimar
@Brachiator: Trump dictates his tweets to an assistant who actually types them.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@rikyrah:
That’s what Obama did – showed how to win while sidelining all those angry white men. That’s why Bernie lost too – he thought there was a path around PoC. No going back either, since every election from now on will involve a steeper hill for the GOP to climb. Thanks Obama!
Calouste
From TPM: Pence Scolds Obama For DNC Speech: Name Calling Has No Place In Politics!
Irony, we hardly knew you.
piratedan
supposedly a BFD just handed down, supposedly the 4th circuit is going to call out the NC Lege for their voter ID law and put the kibosh on it….
http://www.ca4.uscourts.gov/Opinions/Published/161468.P.pdf
Cermet
@Face: You do understand that the fundamental requirement to be a republican is to ignore all reality if it doesn’t align with your beliefs. All is forgiven if another person agree’s that brown skin and blacks are the sole source of crime, stealing of white wealth and … well, enough with their stupidity. Just that these people are so closed minded and racist, that they will believe any lie as long as the person supports their racist beliefs – Raygun sold out the working class whites males and these fools still voted for him and his followers and this resulted in these whites losing their middle class jobs, future, and how, we see, their children’s future. Who do they blame? Democrats … would be funny if not so tragic.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: Some folks in Russia, perhaps?
piratedan
yikes moderation! gadzookes, any FP around to release me?
Calouste
@Soylent Green: Christianity has only fairly recently let go of “violence, murder, and the subjugation of the Earth.”
amygdala
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: The Atlantic’s James Fallows, one of the most gracious people on Twitter, was trolling the Donald last night. It was hilarious.
? Martin
@Soylent Green: Some do. I don’t think it’s a lot, however. And since those likely perfectly overlap the abortion argument, they aren’t convincible in an election. They don’t change the result and therefore aren’t worth focusing on.
Mike E
Gen Grant orders another round of volleys into the old confederate armory works:
Judge panel rules NC voter law is discriminatory
ETA piratedan has the scoop…I’ll take mine with sprinkles! /winnerz
inventor
@Villago Delenda Est:
Stealing that
Patricia Kayden
@dmsilev: And he is so baitable. I’ve never seen a public person who is so sensitive to criticism. Another reason why he’s just not presidential.
Adam L Silverman
@Face: Its tribal at this point. I have a very close friend and colleague who’s done content reading on some of my work before, including the stuff on Russia’s intentions in Ukraine, other parts of Eastern Europe, vis a vis the US, etc. He’s about as hardline as you can get in thinking that Putin is up to no good, we’ve let the Ukrainians down, etc. He’ll vote for Trump because he won’t vote for a democrat and certainly not for a Clinton.
randy khan
@Punchy:
That’s excellent news. I doubt the court will be inclined to grant a stay and I’m not convinced you’d find enough Supreme Court Justices willing to stay it, either, so it may stand until Election Day. (Fingers crossed.)
Anoniminous
@rikyrah:
How groups voted in 2012:
Total Obama votes: 51%, Total Romney votes 47%
% of total voters | Obama voters | Romney voters
White 72 39 59
African-American 13 93 6
Hispanic 10 71 27
Asian 3 73 26
Other 2 58 38
I’d say we’re already got evidence a majority — a bare majority, it’s true — do want to live in a “socially liberal and tolerant society.” The “multi-ethnic” thing is already a Done Deal, going to get “Doner” over the next 20 or so years.
piratedan
@Mike E: was looking through it and IANAL but this seemed pretty significant:
“Faced with this record, we can only conclude that the North
Carolina General Assembly enacted the challenged provisions of
the law with discriminatory intent. Accordingly, we reverse the
judgment of the district court to the contrary
and remand with
instructions to enjoin the challenged provisions of the law.”
so suddenly NC may be back in play…. and that’s 3 for 3 on the VOTER ID bullshit being struck down.
dmsilev
@Calouste: Does Mike Pence understand that he’s sharing a ticket with _Donald Trump_?
ThresherK (GPad)
@rikyrah: At the risk of repeating myself:
Our stuff? Daffy Duck would call that pronoun trouble.
D58826
I know that Prof. Warren has taken it up as a life’s mission to needle ‘old little hands’ but I would love to see Hillary create a campaign slot, reporting directly to her’ of the office of trolling trump.’. Entire job is to spend the day Trolling him. Of course maybe she doesn’t really have to since the intrertubes seems to be rising to the challenge.
schrodinger's cat
Trump is no longer joke, sorry I can’t laugh at him.
randy khan
Word Press seems to be eating my comments (at least when I reply to someone). I’m pretty sure I haven’t said anything offensive.
Cermet
@Calouste: Not in amerika! Hate and killing is front and center in christian church; or have you missed the wars we have been fighting? Europe partly but only because they rejected the church.
Adam L Silverman
@Trentrunner: One of the commenters at Little Green Footballs has, apparently, done a whole series of him with his hands getting smaller and smaller.
? Martin
@piratedan: Yes, initial reads are that this is a pretty epic knockdown. Not only is there intent to discriminate, but they knocked down race to the bottom arguments that ‘dismantling election benefits that don’t exist in other states is non-discriminatory’. The court said that it was. Voter ID rulings are still soup, and won’t get decided until this election is. Just another stake to put on winning not just the WH but also the Senate – we need to fill those USSC seats.
gogol's wife
@Adam L Silverman:
My Russian friends are terrified of Trump.
Do you think they want to see Putinism spread across the globe?
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Face: Buzzfeed:
Cheers,
Scott.
schrodinger's cat
Has the fright wing attack machine smeared Mr. Khan yet?
ThresherK (GPad)
@amygdala: G Will trying on Fallows’ calm, sophisticated incisiveness is like an eight-year-old putting on his dad’s suit jacket.
Except the grammar schooler can grow into the jacket.
Face
@Mike E: Does NC secede before or after the election?
Mike J
One poll does not mean anything, good or bad.
Missouri:
Clinton 41
Trump 40
Survey done after RNC, before DNC.
Mike E
@piratedan: Much like twitter Trump, Pat will be digging his way out of the governor’s mansion over this…stand back! Heh
Villago Delenda Est
@Calouste: The Mammonists still believe in it. The Fundigelicals are Mammonists.
BruceFromOhio
@slag: The shouting yam.
(h/t Shakezula)
Adam L Silverman
@CONGRATULATIONS!: Secretary Perez has done some good stuff, but there’s only so much one can do with regulatory wordings. The big lifts need to be judicial decisions upholding the regulations followed by legislation making it statutory. The latter is a heavy lift until you redo the Congressional redistricting. And that doesn’t even count the need to fix the state level equivalent legislation such as right to work.
slag
@FortGeek: I enjoy Dainty Digits as a taunt and oblique reference to Trump’s unfettered narcissism. And Combover Caligula is ok for both substance and alliteration.
But the Circus Peanut is a direct evocation of the shame and betrayal you feel after you knowingly partake in something that every one of your logic centers told you would be abhorrent but your visceral sense of morbid curiosity wouldn’t allow you to resist. And an Angry Circus Peanut is all that turned up to eleven.
Mike E
@Face: All those ex’s live in Texas!
Dork
@schrodinger’s cat: Michelle Malkin is claiming Khan uses marble countertops to support the picture frames of his dead military son. Therefore, clearly worthy of contempt and ridicule.
Adam L Silverman
@kdaug: That was a great trailer. Not least because its for a DC comic adapted to a movie and it included color! Vibrant, actual color!
Ryan
Better him twittering the day away than speaking before groups, calling donors, or working on speeches!
LAO
@piratedan: It was unanimous!
Brachiator
@Uncle Cosmo:
Donald Trump is Stumpffinger. He’s the man, beware of his tiny hands.
Instead of Odd-job, his chief henchman is Fat Slob, played by Chris Christie.
Adam L Silverman
@nominus: The better response to him on this is: “It was never your’s to begin with. Since you won’t share, its going to be taken away and given to people who will.”
amk
@Villago Delenda Est: ftw
Matt McIrvin
Heard (on LGM) that Instapundit has started desperately concern-trolling about the massive wave of Democrats defecting to Jill Stein.
Miss Bianca
@Cacti: I know, I love that, too! “You gonna take that from her, bro?” just sums up the whole pathetic WMRA-ness of The Donald’s whole campaigns.
amk
@Ryan: Yup. Distract him every day. He is so easy to manipulate.
LAO
@Adam L Silverman: Amen!
Mnemosyne
The website is showing me a Famous Footwear ad with a gay (male) couple buying shoes for their adorable toddler.
The culture war is lost, and the only ones who don’t realize it are the dead-end conservatives. There. Is. No. Going. Back.
Yellowdog
@Punchy: NC AG is a Democrat and running for Governor. I don’t think he will appeal this ruling.
BruceFromOhio
@rikyrah: And it’s somewhat of a gamble because it’s still possible that the majority of people in this country do not want to be part of a pluralistic, multiethnic, socially liberal and tolerant society led by a party of people who want to enact a broad liberal agenda.
This is not a gamble. It’s the *only* way to salvage a vertically fornicated political system and a fractured society that is showing the wear and tear of shitty leadership at every level of government. Anyone who doesn’t want to be “part of a pluralistic, multiethnic, socially liberal and tolerant society led by a party of people who want to enact a broad liberal agenda” needs to STFU and GTFO of leadership and move back to fucking Moscow.
D58826
@schrodinger’s cat: Ann Coulter started to but she got smacked down even by many conservatives.
Kay
@schrodinger’s cat:
I think the Tim Kaine “nice dad” jokes are funny.
He even claps like a proud dad.
NorthLeft12
@Gin & Tonic:
Speaking as a Canadian; Yeah! Not funny. Not funny at all.
I know some of you get this, but up here in Canada we have a better life when you guys down there are prosperous, happy, engaged, and sane. We may not like to admit that you have that much influence on our country [and many other countries too], but that’s the way it is. Perhaps one day your internal politics will not impact the rest to of the world they way they do now, but today is not that day.
So, get with the program and support the sanity candidate.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@kdaug: Looks neat. But I see that the attack of Teal and Orange continues unabated… :-/
Cheers,
Scott.
? Martin
@Anoniminous: It’s sort of the wrong question, in two ways. The pluralistic, multi-ethnic part can be construed to be orthogonal to the socially liberal part. Right now those come as a package, but voters may not see it that way. We saw that in CA when Obama won big but so did Prop 8 banning gay marriage. Some voters don’t realize that the only way you get to pluralistic, multi-ethnic is by not codifying in federal law the social elements that favor one group or another. This is particularly challenging for religious groups. Can immigrant Catholics and Muslims reconcile with a socially liberal policy?
It’s also the wrong question in another way. I agree there is a plurality that support the statement enough to overcome what I said above – they may value pluralistic, multi-ethnic enough more than the socially liberal part to pull them into the coalition, but how badly do they want it. Elections are also a measure of intensity. The biggest problems that the Democratic party has is that their coalition does not turn out nearly as strongly as the voters that oppose that statement, and so the result of the election may not align with the interests of the population at large. It’s pretty clear that to this point the GOP has had intensity on their side – their voters are much more reliable than ours.
Patricia Kayden
@schrodinger’s cat: True. At first, I was laughing because I didn’t think things would get this far. Who knew that a major political party would nominate a know-nothing, Bigot? But yeah, he could win.
Hoping Secretary Clinton got a big bounce from what turned out to be a great convention.
Shalimar
@Villago Delenda Est:
I have a friend who goes to the local mega-church. They actually have a snack bar. They make a profit selling their parishioners over-priced stadium food.
amygdala
@ThresherK (GPad): I love Fallows. As you say, he’s an adult, plus he’s my go-to for anything aviation (or China). He was impressed with Hill’s messaging, both in how it resonated with Obama’s talk the night before and how it would all take rapid residence in the yam’s epidermis.
BruceFromOhio
@Redshift: I’d like to think we made up for it with back-to-back Obama presidencies.
Ultraviolet Thunder
In our home he’s Lord Littlefinger so we don’t sully the air with his name.
slag
@Calouste: Ha! My favorite five words in Hillary’s speech last night both for content and delivery were, “And I do mean odd,” when she was talking about Trump’s 70-odd minute speech. It was the perfect leavening agent for a generally heavy occasion.
Plus, Bill and the balloons thrilled me to no end. Love that shit. That’s people.
Miss Bianca
@piratedan: Hooray, hooray, more good news, it’s coming in waves!
BruceFromOhio
@rikyrah: LOL, they kicked it to curb and left it lying there where anyone could pick it back up again.
Dipshits.
mapaghimagisk
@Mnemosyne:
I’m inclined to agree, but when I visited Turkey, they felt going back to a more conservative, fundamental positon was unpossible too.
Anoniminous
@Matt McIrvin:
Polling comes and goes and can be “correctly adjusted” (sic) in several different ways. But the structural factors of an election are sticky, e.g., people who voted for Obama are very highly likely to vote for Hillary. If they are starting that crap now they are desperate.
Villago Delenda Est
@D58826: When you’ve got John Podesta and Erik Erikson smacking you down…
Villago Delenda Est
@Anoniminous: UNSKEW! UNSKEW!
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman:
Talk about voting against your own interests. Your friend could not possibly believe that Trump would do anything to help the Ukrainian people.
West of the Cascades
@piratedan: Even a bigger deal is that the other two panelists (besides Judge Motz, who wrote the bulk of the opinion) went FURTHER than she would have in completely enjoining all of the provisions of the state voter law that were challenged — she (Judge Motz) would have remanded to let the district court fashion remedies for other violations (except for the voter ID provision, which she felt should only be enjoined temporarily, not permanently). — from the other two panelist’s opinion (Part V.B.):
Accordingly, to fully cure the harm imposed by the impermissible enactment of SL 2013-381, we permanently enjoin all of the challenged provisions, including the photo ID provision.
Even if there are further proceedings on this, the Fourth Circuit is overwhelmingly Democrat-appointed, and so is likely either to not hear it en banc (or to reach the same conclusion as the panel), and the Supreme Court is split 4-4, so I would think there is no chance that the Voter ID law or any of the other restrictions on voting from that odious law will be in place in North Carolina in November.
Mnemosyne
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
AND the pick of Tim Kaine as Veep is looking more genius by the day. Devoutly Catholic hetero grandfather with a son serving overseas ALSO is completely comfortable with African-Americans and speaks Spanish fluently?
That’s hey, white dudes, we’ll be happy to have you at the party as long as you aren’t assholes.
And I loved his impression of Trump. “Be-LIEVE me!”
Adam L Silverman
@gogol’s wife: I didn’t mean actual Russian citizens, was wink wink, nudge nudging Putin and Dugin there.
Villago Delenda Est
@amygdala: It seems to me that everything that preceded Hilz’ acceptance speech was leading up to it…that her speech captured snippets of everyone who stood on that stage before her, and brought it all together in one nice package.
Face
No offense, but the hell there is. A Trump win puts SCOTUS knuckledraggers in a majority, with almost certainly RBG retiring too. That gives SCOTUS the easy green light to certainly flip Obergefell and Rowe, the ACA ruling, likely Lawrence v. Texas, and expand Hobby Lobby until it’s legal to enslave your neighbor if your religion allows it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Brown vs. Board re-adjudicated, depending on the magnitude of knuckledragging that Trump would nominate (Cruz? Pryor?).
Everything is go-back-able if they can get a 2+ seat majority on the SCOTUS.
NorthLeft12
@Redshift:
Yes, this^^^. My faith was restored [somewhat] when you elected B. Obama, but Jaysus, Mary, and Joseph [said with a NFLD. accent] can you guys do something about those insane Repubs in Congress and in the States?
West of the Cascades
Re: timing of the Fourth Circuit’s ruling on voter rights in North Carolina w/r/t Rev. William Barber’s speech/sermon/invocation at the DNC last night … almost makes me believe in a just God.
Betty Cracker
@slag: Bill was like a little boy playing with those balloons, wasn’t he?
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Littlefingers is at it again.
Anoniminous
@? Martin:
In theory yes. In the 2016 US presidential election one candidate is saying he will deport all Muslims, Latinos are rapists, and so on while the other candidate is saying We’re All Americans On This Bus. So practically they are joined at the hip.
nominus
@Adam L Silverman: That’s the diplomatic/professorial response, sure. And it is indeed correct. But Twitter is more about dealing in swift evisceration in less than 140 characters. Twitter wits (…twitwits?) have been sharpening their tongues for a while now. The combination of Trump’s predictable antics, formerly heh-indeedy conservatives now being depressed, and a grand slam of a convention has them out for blood now. There will be zero chill in that space for the next 100 days. As much as I shouldn’t, I will be laughing my ass off with every hit they land.
bupalos
Hey I have a decent from Russia with Love p-shop with Trump as Huuuge Pu$$y, happy to send to Cracker or other front pager, but I doesn’t know how.
Adam L Silverman
@Ryan: Actually MSNBC reported out last night in the post convention coverage that they’d been in touch with the Trump campaign about the lack of twitter responses and the unconventional holding of counter events during the other party’s convention. The campaign point of contact responded with (am paraphrasing here): We have two choices. We can keep him on the trail doing events, in which case he doesn’t have time to/can’t tweet or we can keep him at home (as is customary) and then all he’ll do is tweet. The MSNBC folks took this as “damned if you do, damned if you don’t.”
scav
Somehow struck by the fact he’s sporting a double-L with those diminutive digits — as though he’s managing his own ASL translation. L for loser, although my first image was of the L-plate from the UK for learning drivers. Could spread the rumor that it’s for leaning liberal or lefty. Must be the lack of sleep.
BruceFromOhio
@NorthLeft12: One step at a time. Full plate at the moment.
Adam L Silverman
@LAO: But not en banc unanimous. And you knew that’s where NC is going to want to go next.
Miss Bianca
@kdaug: OMG.I was holding back from the new WW, mostly because I thought, “I can handle it if they fuck up other superhero narratives but I CANNOT handle a Wonder Woman fuck-up!” This has now zoomed to the top of my MUST-SEE list. I may even have to go see it in a theater rather than wait for the DVD!
Villago Delenda Est
@West of the Cascades: Amen. Rev Barber seriously rocked the house.
Adam L Silverman
@LAO: And you need to tweet it in the same tone that you’d say it to a recalcitrant and petulant four year old.
EconWatcher
The Trump rise is baffling, but even more baffling, it’s an international phenomenon. The Freedom Party will probably win the (symbolic) presidency in Austria in October, and is on a trend to take everything in the next parliamentary elections. The National Front is the most popular party in France. An openly fascist party in Greece that appears to be actually murdering political opponents is polling about 10%.
The conditions and topics of popular rage are very different in these countries. So why all at once? Why now? It feels like a kind of bizarro world 1968.
Mnemosyne
@slag:
The funniest part was Hillary pointing up for him. Look, honey! Balloons!
You know he’s got to be so fun as a grandpa.
amygdala
@Betty Cracker: And Kaine was spiking them around. It was awesome.
Mnemosyne
@mapaghimagisk:
I don’t want to say it can never happen, but it’s not going to happen this year.
Keith P.
I caption this photo as “Yosemite Yam goes ‘PEW! PEW!”
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: The delight on her face was so genuine and attractive.
schrodinger's cat
@D58826: I saw that, she made a dig at Fareed Zakaria and Mr. Khan’s accent.
Miss Bianca
@slag: LMAO at “Bill and the balloons”!
FortGeek
@slag:
Now I can totally see him carved from a single one of those things. And “Combover Caligula”–hahahaha! Adding that _and_ “Angry Circus Peanut” to my collection.
Mike E
@West of the Cascades: At least we now know the Rev. Dr. Barber was clearly channeling a ‘higher power’ last night ;-)
Anoniminous
@EconWatcher:
Because ECB Austerity economic policies has 22 year old Greek women prostituting themselves for 5 euros so they can buy a sandwich.
Villago Delenda Est
@srv: Wrong again. It’s what you do, insect.
amygdala
@Villago Delenda Est: Agreed. It’s preaching to the choir with me, obviously, but when Republicans, even the extremists, are kinda quiet on social media while it’s all unfolding, you know it’s working as intended.
Villago Delenda Est
@schrodinger’s cat: When you have John Podesta and Erik Erikson denouncing your tweet…
germy
‘I Just Showed Up’
Trump is already distancing himself from the RNC.
NY Times: Clinton’s Convention Was Made for TV. Trump’s Was Made for Twitter. by Jim Rutenberg
Asked about the differences, Mr. Trump said he could not speak to them with much specificity, because “I didn’t produce our show — I just showed up for the final speech on Thursday.”
Gin & Tonic
@srv: A magazine with fewer than 50k readers matters how?
Adam L Silverman
@? Martin: Would you please be so kind as to rewrite that first paragraph? We’ve noted your use of orthogonal, but would appreciate it if you would work in intersectionality and invagination for the trifecta. We appreciate your compliance.
LAO
@Adam L Silverman: True. I forget that other circuits aren’t like the 2d Circuit (which very rarely grants en banc review).
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: Like I said its tribal at this point. So we’re not really talking politics at this point.
Redshift
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Ooh, I love that!
sukabi
@David Byron Hopson: not really, ruined my breakfast.
JPL
@Calouste: Most of Trump’s supporters thought the word demagogue was a compliment.. What’s the problem?
mapaghimagisk
@Mnemosyne:
Can’t and won’t. Totally agree.
Trentrunner
@srv: Off the top of my head:
Tim Kaine
Cory Booker
Elizabeth Warren
Kamala Harris
Chris Murphy
And on the other side? All their “rising stars” were soundly beaten by…Donald Trump.
Win this election, we’ll be fine. We’ll keep working on our “farm teams.”
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Wait, wait, I think we need “intertextuality” in there somewhere, too. “Post-modernity” is so 20th century, tho,’ I think we can let that one slide.
Jeffro
@FortGeek:
I know, right? LOVE. IT.
Brachiator
@Anoniminous:
Some of the dynamics are different this election, especially when you consider white voters. And here you must also consider age and gender.
Right now, Clinton is not doing as well with all younger voters compared to Obama. And you have the hypocritical white men in some states who voted for Clinton over Obama in the 2008 primary, because they were racist, who now may vote for Trump over Clinton because they are sexist. Older, married white women tend to vote more Republican than Democrat. One question may be whether they are more alienated by Trump than they are by Hillary.
This election also seems to have more voters who had given up voting in past elections, and voters who right now strongly dislike both candidates. And while right now they seem like fringe candidates, Libertarian Gary Johnson and progressive candidate Jill Stein might pull significant numbers of what would otherwise be Republican or Democratic votes. These parties were not a significant factor in the 2008 or 2012 elections.
Fair Economist
@germy:
He had an impersonator introduce his wife on Monday? And step on Cruz’ speech on Wednesday? I guess that explains why the introduction wasn’t so bad.
Enzymer
O@West of the Cascades:
Agreed, this is a big deal. The judges definitively smack down the NC lege for discriminatory intent (the idiots left quite a paper trail there).
This doesn’t just eliminate voter ID, it also restores early voting, same-day registration & several other voting/registration options.
p.s. Judge Wynn was previously on the NC Supreme Court
scav
@germy:
Mmmmm. no question at all about the size of the fingerprints on that steering wheel. Tediously familiar MO and getaway vehicle.
Villago Delenda Est
@Fair Economist: Well, to be fair, he can’t remember things he said five seconds ago, so there’s that.
Redshift
@nominus: My favorite couple of responses to that tweet were both in the vein of “Well, you didn’t seem to be using them any more.”
(I agree in substance with Adam’s response, but I agree with you that in this case twisting the knife is more effective than challenging the premise.)
Mike E
srv’s bitter troll tears are quite delicious this afternoon! gauchi, liberal, goblue….y’all are the wind beneath my wings! ¡A su Salud!
D58826
Those Temple Owls are sure pumped up. and even if her Brother did go to Penn State, this Owl will vote for her.
Slag
@Betty Cracker: His joy was palpable throughout, but when the balloons came, he finally had a physical outlet. I totally related, though I’m not a little boy.
NobodySpecial
@rikyrah: I know I’m very late to the party, but thanks so much for that link. That made me feel all kinds of good.
Adam L Silverman
@LAO: I’m not saying they’ll win that appeal, but that’s where it’ll go next. Because there are tax payer dollars to waist on this important principle of Liberty!
Brachiator
@srv:
Anyone more concerned about narrative over substance is already missing the point.
Davis X. Machina
There may be people who miss the “Circus Peanut” reference because they haven’t gone candy-shopping in the dollar store.
For background: Spangler’s Circus Peanuts
japa21
@LAO: As noted above, the NC AG is a Dem and may not even try to request en banc.
Keith G
Betty C, you use ‘scrotal sac’ as if it were a bad thing. I am very attached to mine and have, on occasion, enjoyed being in the proximity of those of others. That is why I never call someone a dick. I mean, geez, they can be quite enjoyable.
Also, years ago, I realized how outdated it was to use the anatomy of a different sex as emblematic of disgust.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
@CONGRATULATIONS!:
I would call it a lemon party.
Don’t google it.
japa21
@Mike E: Almost feel sorry for srv. There is a phrase for what he is doing, “Whistling through the graveyard”. In this case it is the graveyard where the GOP is about to be buried.
rikyrah
Josh MarshallVerified account
@joshtpm
Im watching an impulsive man-child attacking people on Twitter. And he’s the GOP nominee for president.
sukabi
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: sorry, but toddler tantrums do not an alpha make.
patrick II
@slag:
I loved that Bill and the balloons bit. Especially the last gif where Bill is walking out with a large blue balloon and a little girl tries to take it from him — and he pulls it back. Go get your own balloon little girl.
Gin & Tonic
Was there any published comparison of the June FEC reports? I seem to have missed it if there was.
Uncle Cosmo
@Villago Delenda Est: I like this as well. The grift that keeps on giving!
Mike E
@Keith G: “Don’t be a Dick Cheney” seems perfectly cromulent imo
Brachiator
@EconWatcher:
You have 65 million refugees fleeing Africa and the Middle East, as well as a very slow economic recovery in all the advanced nations. And of course the migration of people from the less developed to the more developed EU countries, and increasingly high rates of unemployment among younger people, especially college graduates. Increased nationalism is a sad, but predictable outcome.
Redshift
@Brachiator:
We shouldn’t take anything for granted, butI think you’re trying too hard. Anyone who was racist enough to vote for Clinton over Obama in the primary because they are racist didn’t vote for Obama in ’08 or ’12, so the fact that they’ll vote for Trump is not a shift. How they voted in the ’08 primary becomes entirely irrelevant.
I think we’ll have to contend with the fact that it’s still more acceptable to be openly sexist (at the level of “I just think a man makes a better boss”) than openly racist. However, racism has a hell of a lot more intensity, so I think the sexism is less likely to sway people if it conflicts with other basic beliefs.
p.a.
Felon dinesh d’sousa’s anti-Hillary movie showing in local RI theaters. Showcase and CinemaWorld, whatever their corporate owners are. Your area?
pseudonymous in nc
The judgement on NC’s voter suppression law is a big fucking deal.
The bastards in the legislature were smart enough to get detailed data on every aspect of the registration and voting process, then pick out the bits that most affected African-Americans — the IDs they had at hand, the methods they used to register, the way they voted early on weekends — but dumb enough not to hide exactly what they were doing. Data-driven discrimination.
(Also, given a 4-4 SCOTUS, the 4th Circuit judgement presumably holds.)
different-church-lady
@NorthLeft12:
Quit resisting: Canada will make a great 51st state.
Matt McIrvin
@Anoniminous: European-style xenophobia is the way you drive in the wedge: warn people that Muslim immigrants will institute sharia law, ban everything fun and persecute women and gays. White-nationalist parties can try to portray themselves as liberal. Trump was making some stabs in that direction at his convention.
Betty Cracker
@Keith G: Whatever, you giant tit! ;-)
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Yellowdog: Yeah, the ReThugs here are furious with Cooper’s consistent refusal to defend their bullshit laws when they are reversed in court. Since the AG in NC is elected, there’s nothing they can do about it. Somewhere Art Pope is in danger of stroking out. Couldn’t happen to a better guy.
patrick II
@Redshift:
One of the things that struck me at the DNC was that it was much more pro-women than Obama could have been pro-black at the DNC in 2008. I am not sure why that is, but it seemed pretty evident to me. Maybe it is because white guys are more afraid of African-Americans that they are of their own wives and daughters.
LAO
An absolute must read from Josh Barro, I rewatched Khizr Khan’s speech — and it made me weep for our country.
I can’t even pull a quote because its so on point.
Davebo
I like hamster heedit bampot! Gotta love the Scots.
Mnemosyne
@EconWatcher:
In addition to the refugee crisis, I think the austerity policies that many countries chose (or had imposed on them) is a huge factor. Obama had a hard time getting his policies through, but we never went for austerity, and that allowed us to keep our heads above water and recover better than a lot of Europe has.
If Obama had listened to the conventional wisdom at the time and implemented austerity instead of PPACA and the stimulus, we would be in a very different position today.
? Martin
@Anoniminous:
You didn’t even think about my example, did you?
They come as a package because you are exactly correct in the presidential stakes, but in CA national trends split from state/local ones. Why would Obama win so big in CA but Prop 8 pass? Millions of voters split between pluralism/multi-ethnic and socially liberal. Yes, Clinton/Trump you get one with the other, but that’s not necessarily going to be the case downticket. That doesn’t guarantee you the Senate or winning House races or state houses or ballot initiatives.
And it doesn’t guarantee that 4 years from now that package will be split in some ways – a GOP more open to pluralism/multi-ethnic, or a Democratic party that goes more socially liberal than some voters are comfortable with. Don’t take these things for granted. The GOP did in 2012 and it left them shambling around stunned on election night.
Soylent Green
@Keith G: I urge Ms. Cracker to apply any anatomical metaphors to Mr. Daintyhands that she chooses and not deprive us one iota of her wit.
D58826
Oh dear, listening to anti-war Jill Stein. She wants to go back to the New Deal that got the US out of the Great depression. Sorry Jill it was WWII that got us out of the depression. Not that I would recommend war as a Kenyesian policy. And it was the pent up demand and savings from the war years that helped power the 1950’s golden age.
Jeffro
@Hal:
Yes and yes and yes.
I usually note to Stein and Sanders fans: there is plenty of evidence that Clinton was ‘pulled’ to the left due to Sanders’ primary run. So you already have influence on one side. However, your candidate is not going to win this time. And there is no evidence that a Trump win in 2016 will send Americans flocking to the Green or Socialist parties – assuming there’s still a country, they’ll just cycle back to the Democratic party.
SO…why not do all the other gazillion things you could be doing to promote Green or Socialist issues (write an op-ed, hold a BBQ, do some door-knocking, print funny/cool t-shirts and sell ’em on campus) and building a party, but NOT do the one thing that will hand the country over to an incompetent man-child con artist? Seriously. If you vote for anyone but Clinton, you’re handing the election to Trump. If you vote for Stein or write-in Sanders without doing the other things it takes to build your party, you’re just acting out like a toddler, without regard to the consequences that will fall on so many others in this country.
And just leave it at that – you can’t spend all day arguing on FB! ;)
I like to send people to http://www.isidewith.com, ask them to put in their stances on the issues, and then note how closely Clinton, Sanders, AND Stein match them on the issues. It’s never more than a few % points apart. Hopefully they’ll also see just how far away Johnson and certainly Trump are as well.
Redshift
@EconWatcher:
I think the global economic crisis is probably the answer to “why all at once?” Remember, the US is recovering the best of anywhere, so whatever economic problems are being exploited here, nearly everywhere else has them worse. And despite Republicans fighting it every step of the way, we had an administration that did a lot of the right things in response. The response in plenty of other places (I’m looking at you, EU) was to tell suffering regions “well, we’ll help you out a bit out of charity, but really it’s your own fault.”
D58826
@LAO: He is right leaning isn’t he?
The Pale Scot
@Soylent Green:
He should talk to the Calvinists
sukabi
@Adam L Silverman: especially since for the last how many decades they’ve been using those ideals as catchphrases and bludgeons, never actually embracing and working towards implementation of those ideals to make life better for all Americans.
Anoniminous
@Brachiator:
Add the number of women who didn’t vote in 2012 or voted for Romney who will vote for Hillary because she is a woman.
Subtract ~1,000,000 Romney votes because they are dead.
Sanders. Trump. One of these is not like the other. The youngs who voted for Sanders will mostly come home; the process was started during the convention with all the Shout-Outs to Bernie. That’s ~ 2 million votes plus the 800,000 (and change) Hillary got in the primary.
And so on.
Matt McIrvin
@Redshift: Followed by the Syria refugee crisis, which hit Europe much harder than it did here.
amygdala
@LAO: I woke up with puffy eyes this morning, because the last thing I did before going to sleep last night was rewatch Khizr Khan’s speech, and I cried.
It’s a bad sign of our times that a gold star family has to explain themselves because they happen to be Muslim. But it’s his dignified outrage amidst the discomfort and grief of being in a position to speak out that made his words so powerful.
Mike E
@pseudonymous in nc: He won’t do it, but it would be great if AG Cooper sez he’ll counter the NCGOP’s inevitably cries of favoritism by sending it to SCOTUS anyway, just to embarrass those morons when the case gets returned to the lower courts like everybody already knows.
/½ joking
Jeffro
Sigh…in moderation…was it listing the URL of the website?
? Martin
@Adam L Silverman: Ok, that made me laugh. We are such nerds.
FortGeek
@Jeffro:
I just put it on one of Little Green Footballs’ scumper stickers.
NorthLeft12
@different-church-lady:
Let’s make it about seven or so states [Maritimes, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba/Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia, and The North] and complete adoption of government controlled single payer health care and we might have a serious discussion.
Ahhhh who am I kidding, you guys are one of the main reasons we became a country, and besides, you are still too right wing for us.
sigaba
@D58826:
We also were the last manufacturing economy standing, everyone else had bombed each other to smithereens. So maybe if we did all that we could Make America Great Again.
I feel like the Greens have a sorta reasonable-sounding demand that left parties, including the Democrats, should have a stronger and more specific economic message than they’re currently offering, but I think a lot of the voters Greens would target would really settle for nothing less than the US economy in 1960. And the Greens have no problem promising this level of prosperity because fuck if THEY’RE ever going to have to try and deliver it. They can’t even get a majority on a city council. They’re as unaccountable as Trump.
Edit: Maybe this is another example of a trope I see a lot lately, The White Man’s Ghost Dance, where middle-class white people take on scandalous and exaggerated practices and beliefs in hope that it will make the metaphorical buffalo return.
The Pale Scot
@Cermet:
Magical Thinking (supply side economics), Superstition (biblical literalism), and Paranoia (neo-conservatism/bigotry) are the requirements to join the modern GOP.
Trollhattan
@inventor:
Trumplestiltskin: takes your gold, spins it into straw. Invest now!
Miss Bianca
@amygdala: I don’t even have words for how that speech made me feel.
@Trollhattan: Ooh, I love it! “Trumplestiltskin” should become its own meme.
D58826
@sigaba:
And supplying the material to help rebuild those countries.
LAO
@D58826: Yes, he is but, he isn’t a fundamentalist jerk.
schrodinger's cat
@? Martin: OK we get it Mr. Tom Friedman of Balloon Juice, ethnic and religious minorities are knuckle dragging reactionaries where social change is concerned.
Redshift
@patrick II:
Yeah, as sexist as conservatives are, it’s still much more muddled because women are part of their own families, not people who they ought to be able to avoid. Also, any benefit from greater equality is likely to be of at least some benefit to their own families, rather than pure “take my stuff and give it to Them.” If Obama had been explicitly pro-black, the wingnut narrative would have been (even more) that he was going to lead a revolutionary movement of Those People to come murder you in your sleep and take all your property and put you in a camp as revenge for slavery. The Angry Black Man is a trope of fear, the Angry Woman is a trope of scorn.
rikyrah
Taniel @Taniel
Court rules NC legislators asked for data, then passed reforms data showed wld make it harder for black ppl to vote!
Soylent Green
@Anoniminous: The yoots are not as energized as they were in 2008. I think we will see a return to the norm of them not voting. Many have been effectively brainwashed into not liking Hillary, no matter what she stands for.
Emma
@srv: Still running scared. Poor baby.
Adam L Silverman
@D58826: Yes. Log Cabin Republican type.
LAO
@amygdala: Mr. Khan gave, IMO, the speech of the night last night. Barro’s editorial, goes a step further and is an indictment of Trump and the Republican Party and Republican voters for lining up behind a white nationalist. I think it is will worth a read, (It’s pretty short)
D58826
@Mnemosyne: Thought he was going to cry a couple times, esp. when Chelsea was talking
Redshift
@Matt McIrvin:
That definitely made the nationalists’ job easier, but Hungary had already gone fascist before that. I agree that without that, Brexit probably wouldn’t have happened.
Anoniminous
@? Martin:
Proposition 8 was passed in 2008 when the national numbers were against Gay Marriage. The numbers flipped in 2011 with 76% of Democrats and 64% of Independents supporting it. In California Proposition 8 wouldn’t pass because 61% of Californians approve versus 32% disapprove.
Recognize WE’RE WINNING (goddamnit :-) although we haven’t Won. The Party Platform is the most Progressive* ever. Even more so than the New Deal.
* if that floats your boat, it certainly does mine
Miss Bianca
@LAO: I wonder if that article means he’s going to vote for HRC?
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
Somebody needs to take that data and force-feed it to John “Why Do We Need the VRA Anymore?” Roberts, piece by piece.
scav
@Emma: It’s cardio-vascular. not that we’ve any other solid evidence of the cardio part.
BR
I think a powerful argument to young Bernie supporters who are now disillusioned (not the BoB folks, but the normal kind) is about Pence’s homophobia. He’s basically the most homophobic governor in the country, and is proudly announcing, as of today, what kinds of reactionary supreme court justices he’d pick (for Trump) — anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti- you name it. With a 4-4 split on the court and some pending retirements, it’d be trivial for them to flip almost all progressive rulings.
Villago Delenda Est
@D58826: When Rethugs say that the New Deal didn’t get us out the Great Depression, they’re right. WWII spending did.
Which is still massive government involvement in the economy, no matter which way you slice it.
Which means the Rethugs don’t have a point, unless they’re saying that FDR didn’t do enough with the New Deal.
Which of course is NOT what they’re saying, as they’re intellectually dishonest toecheeses.
hovercraft
Who let him have his phone back? Annoying Nicolle Wallace said last night that the reason they had him doing events during the last two nights of the convention was to prevent him from watching them live and basically live tweeting the speeches. I am deeply disappointed in whomever did this, they have deprived mankind of what would have been a tweet storm for the ages. Today’s is epic, but imagine what could have been.
Sad.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@LAO:
Did you read the comments? Don’t.
LAO
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I did, because I can’t help myself. lol.
Mnemosyne
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
NEVER READ THE COMMENTS! (Except here.) I just had to tell that to a coworker who was getting depressed about what he was reading online.
Anoniminous
@Soylent Green:
OFA spent an awful lot of time, money, and effort getting them energized in ’08. Similar actions will give a similar result. Don’t put in the effort and the Kerry ’04 result will happen.
D58826
@Miss Bianca: If Sully is voting for HRC then anything is possible
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Mnemosyne:
There were only 14 comments and usually they devolve after that, but nope. Assholes got it in 1.
Adam L Silverman
@? Martin: I got my terrorism and counter-terrorism upper level class calendared at UF before 9-11. It was scheduled for the Spring semester. Demand shot up and we were able to fill a 300 seat lecture hall and I still had a 200 student (minimum) waiting list. One of the anthro grad students showed up the first day after sitting through the introductory material (I’m so and so, this is the syllabus, here’s the rules, here’s the week by week run down, here’s the assignments, grading protocols, etc) and approached me after class. He introduced himself, told me, as in this is how its going to be, that he was sitting in to monitor what I was teaching to make sure it was accurate and balanced, then walked away before I could say anything. I went back to the department, got with my bosses, and we got a hold of the anthro grad director. We were told that this student is very, very bright and very, very self important and that he would, more than likely, make a terrible scene and cause all sorts of trouble, if I told him he couldn’t sit in and monitor. When we asked why they’d admitted him, we didn’t get much of an answer. Anyhow I basically decided I’d do my thing, which I knew would be accurate presentation of material and just ignore him. He showed up for a couple of classes, decided I was an A-OK person, and didn’t need to supervise me any further. The reason I bring this up is that the one question he asked included the term invaginated. People are very, very strange.
Villago Delenda Est
@germy: I had total control of who would speak, and for how long, and the giant TRUMP letters behind me, but I really had no input into the Convention except to show up.
Right. Sure. As convincing as the deserting coward’s pathetic dismissal of “Mission Accomplished” on the deck of the Lincoln.
LAO
@Miss Bianca: Based upon his commentary at MSNBC and his twitter feed — he ain’t voting for Trump.
Anoniminous
@Villago Delenda Est:
Roosevelt ran on Balancing the Budget in ’32. To keep that promise he limited Federal spending and the country went right back into the Depression.
Aleta
@Villago Delenda Est: It takes an orchestra ?
Adam L Silverman
@NorthLeft12: We don’t actually need Alberta, we already have Texas. Do you bring something non redundant to the table?
And before you start on me: I have a Calgary Hitmen jersey hanging up in my closet with my Blackhawks Winter Classic jersey, my Avalanche Patrick Roy jersey, my Lightning Jersey, and my US Army Hockey jersey.
D58826
@Villago Delenda Est:
Just think if someone suggested hiring 12 million more government (other wise known as GI’s) workers today
The Other Chuck
@Villago Delenda Est: You’re bringing in … facts? Look, it doesn’t matter to these people. As far as the GOP is concerned, FDR opened up Auschwitz himself, and the sky is fuchsia. And about 43% of the country is fine with that. Having that kind of insanity used to mean you starved to death, but Republicans have been living on some kind of “reality welfare” for a long time now, so we’re stuck with them.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: I don’t even want to think about what the word “invaginated” could possibly mean. Or whether there’s a contrary term, like “exphallusated”.
Captain C
@Calouste: Is there video of him saying this? That would make a great campaign add, just juxtapose Pence saying this, over and over, with footage of Trump’s lowest and crudest insults.
The Other Chuck
@sigaba:
This so needs to become a post category.
Betty Cracker
@amygdala: It was an incredible speech. It’s gone viral too, which is a great thing. Last time I looked, it was the headliner at CNN.
D58826
@Anoniminous: THey also went with what today would be called austerity in 1937 and that didn’t work out well. IIRC, poor old Herbert Hoover actually suggested/started many of the new deal programs and the democrats savaged him for ‘big government’.
sukabi
@Brachiator: not to mention all the austerity measures pushed to bail out the wrecked global economy so the wealthy could keep their money.
Captain C
@Adam L Silverman: Does this friend wear a reinforced football helmet at all times to keep his head from exploding with the cognitive dissonance?
Jeffro
@Jeffro: Hooray for being out of moderation, I am REBORN! lol
Seriously folks, tell these Sanders and Stein nuts to check out the website I recommended back at #196 and see how closely Clinton already is to their preferred, not-gonna-win candidates. Then tell ’em to jump on Team D for the big win!!
gogol's wife
@slag:
That’s great, I have to show that to my husband. He has a love-hate relationship with the Big Dawg. Pretends to be scornful, but can recite all the facts of his bio, and can quote him word-for-word in a perfect accent.
Linnaeus
@Villago Delenda Est:
Even if the New Deal didn’t “get us out” of the Great Depression, it certainly mitigated its effects. And who’s to say that it wouldn’t have been more successful than it was had World War II not come along?
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I still don’t know what it means. I decided I wasn’t looking it up and have never done so. It just stuck with me. My guess is that kid is now voting for Jill Stein wherever he may be.
Mike J
Kay
He’s 90. After his show, he watched :)
Major Major Major Major
It’s nuts how it’s come to this. A non-zero part of the convention (e.g. Bloomberg) was just grabbing America by the shoulders and shaking it while yelling YOU PEOPLE ARE FUCKING INSANE!!! And we’re like, Oh, good for him.
@Captain C: Tribalism is a hell of a drug.
gogol's wife
@Adam L Silverman:
Point taken.
Adam L Silverman
@Captain C: No. Very smart guy. He, like the rest of us, has his biases and affiliations that he can’t get past.
gogol's wife
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yes, definitely. It was brilliantly planned. Does DWS get some kind of credit?
Miss Bianca
OK, for today’s Schadenfreude Polka Hour, we have this round-up of tweets from conservative pundits on the SHEER AWESOME of the DNC convention as opposed to the RNC Trumpster Fire.
Game…blouses.
Anoniminous
@Miss Bianca:
Invaginate: be turned inside out or folded back on itself to form a cavity
As in “We have studied the dynamics of ligand-engagement of the costimulatory receptor CD2 in T cell/APC couples. Thousands of ligand-engaged CD2 molecules were included in a large T cell invagination at the center of the cellular interface within 1 min of cell couple formation. The structure and regulation of this invagination shared numerous features with phagocytosis and macropinocytosis. Three observations further characterize the invagination and the inclusion of CD2: 1) numerous ligand-engaged receptors were enriched in and internalized through the T cell invagination, none as prominently as CD2; 2) dissolution of the T cell invagination and CD2 engagement were required for effective proximal T cell signaling; and 3) the T cell invagination was uniquely sensitive to the affinity of the TCR for peptide-MHC.”
ETA: much more boring than you thought, I’ll bet
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: I have all the documents provided by my helpful Bundy
junkiesassistants. I’ll do a post up later today with them.Brachiator
@Anoniminous:
I hope there will be a lot of this, but no one knows or can predict how many women will vote for Hillary because she is a woman. This may be offset by political or ideological concerns, or the likability factor.
Add people who are now old enough to vote and who are newly motivated to vote
The available evidence suggests that large numbers of these voters are not particularly attached to the Democratic Party. They do not see the Democrats as home. The Democrats have to find a way to appeal to these voters, who probably found (or would have found) Obama more appealing in 2012.
Jeffro
Oh, and the heck with Stein for being an anti-vaxxer, too. I do hope it helps more folks see her as a kook.
Adam L Silverman
@Kay: Its because he’s 90. The first set starts right after the 4:30 buffet service at Golden Corral. He’s done by 6 and in his jammies and ready for bed by 7!
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: Wow, that filing is nuts.
@gogol’s wife: Never.
Mike E
@Adam L Silverman: So, yer saying…you don’t need a new jersey? ;-)
Anoniminous
@D58826:
An investigation into the current Mythology wrt the Actuality of the New Deal era would make a fascinating book.
Mnemosyne
@Kay:
Tony Bennett is old enough to remember that he had to change his name from Benedetto because there was still a lot of prejudice against Italian-Americans. Add in the fact that he’s spent his whole career working with mostly African-American musicians and got to see the Civil Rights Movement with them … yeah, he’s a cool dude.
Trollhattan
@LAO:
Was driving the kid to soccer last night while Mr. Khan was on. Thought I was going to need to exit the freeway. What a gut punch and what a dignified and devastating dismantling of the fake patriot. “You have sacrificed nothing.” Says all that need be said.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: I’m still wrestling with the term “problematize” from my grad school teaching days myself, so I don’t think I can be of any help elucidating this point (mostly because I, too, refuse to look it up).
Exit singing, “Buddy, can you paradigm?” Pursued by bear.
ETA: @Anoniminous: Blink. Blink. Blink. OK then. Can’t imagine the context it came up in during Adam’s encounter with Nutball GRad.
Trollhattan
@gogol’s wife:
Noooo, she’s history’s
worstsecond-worst monster!Anoniminous
@Brachiator:
I don’t disagree with any of that. The key is GOTV operations with a determined effort to turn MayBe women voters into voters and bring the Youngs in.
And now … back to work.
Soylent Green
@Anoniminous: The difference is that Obama is cool, Clinton is not. Barack is the basketball team captain sitting at the popular kids table; Hillary is the four-eyed nerd who serves as captain of the chess team.
Adam L Silverman
@Mike E: Yes. Also, not a Devils fan.
Linnaeus
@Adam L Silverman:
“Invagination” refers to something folding in on itself. For example, during an animal’s embryonic development (including humans), the embryo folds in on itself (invagination) during a process called gastrulation. The resulting structure, a gastrula, has multiple tissue layers out of which our various organs develop.
ETA: I see Anoniminous beat me to it.
Mike E
@Mnemosyne: He’s the last of the old ambassadors of jazz, too
amygdala
@LAO: It is indeed. Many thanks for the link.
Keith G
This segment of Trevor Noah’s Daily show is a quick wrap up of Bloomberg, Biden, Kaine and Obama. It’s nealy perfect.
Linnaeus
@Adam L Silverman:
Oh, dear…
piratedan
@LAO: as in most cases…. don’t read the comments… it will simply illustrate that there are some people that it will be very difficult to reach.
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
Stop making me LOL at work, damn it!
And this Tweet amused me:
Remember when Obama said he wanted to be a transformational president like Reagan, and idiot lefties climbed up his ass for YEARS because they didn’t get it.
Last night. This convention. All of it. Game, set, and match.
Mike E
Somebody look in on srv…his fingers now are too short to reach his keyboard, other than ‘Ctrl’ ‘C’ and ‘V’
The Other Chuck
@Mnemosyne:
Actually it was Bob Hope who named him that, and Tony liked it enough as a stage name that he made it official.
? Martin
@schrodinger’s cat: I never suggested that. Look, my heritage is Irish catholic. Ireland until recently has codified cultural norms regarding abortion in state policy. That’s common, especially in countries that are particularly homogeneous or where the state has taken official positions on race or religion. If you look at the people that tend to immigrate to the US, they tend to come from such places, and there are very few places that formally reject that (the US at least has an establishment clause even if we don’t adhere to it very closely).
My suggestion isn’t that they are knuckle-draggers (I certainly don’t consider my own relatives to be) but that they are likely unpracticed at what is needed to govern a highly diverse nation, because frankly, we’re still figuring it out the hard way and we’re among the very few truly diverse nations. Our own VP and VP candidate demonstrates that challenge, that both are personally anti-abortion but both are pro-choice. They need to personally reconcile that position and they’ve both indicated the challenges in doing so (which is why they are such good spokespersons for it). If you’ve never been challenged to do that, it probably not immediately easy how to.
And that’s the point of socially liberal policies that Republicans routinely fall on themselves over (and which you seem to be doing now), which is that you don’t need to personally embrace that policy to support it. We need to sell these policies to people that personally disagree with the freedom to marry, to change their identity, to get an abortion, to participate fully in society, to speak another language, to attend a different church, etc. and convince them that a socially liberal policies are the only way for the nation to hold together even if they personally think that church is wrong, that language is rude, that abortion is irresponsible, etc. It is about divorcing the instinct to judge from the recognition that people should have the right to do things you want to judge.
In a lot of countries that concept doesn’t exist at all. It barely exists in this country. It is not an immediate leap to make, and I don’t begrudge those people that struggle to make it. You have to work with them. It’s hard. It’s hard for those of us who have been practicing it for decades.
But it’s equally important to not judge your supporters. There are a TON of pro-choice people that personally think that abortion is wrong, but like Biden and Kaine choose to not judge others. There are a lot of gay marriage supporter that think homosexuality is icky. Many that may intellectually say that black people are equal, but struggle to actually treat them that way. Many that support immigration but get annoyed when people around them don’t speak English. These people should not be considered knuckle-draggers either, which is how I interpret your retort. They are doing the right thing because they recognize that it is right for the nation even if they personally are struggling to live it daily.
D58826
@Linnaeus: The New Deal certainly offered a major lifeline for many Americans but the ‘the new deal ended the depression’ is an over simplification. The economy would would have eventually recovered but WWII just jump started it.
On a different topic they just had Sam Clovis, one of Trumps’s mouthpieces, on MSNBC and of course ‘old little hands’ never said he wanted to ban Muslims or ever said insulting things about Muslims. I have several unicorns to sell also.
Kay
@Adam L Silverman:
OMG, it’s the opposite. He seems to go out every night of the week looking at those pictures. He founded an arts school in the Bronx so there’s anniversary celebrations, he’s doing summer arts ed performances, and he’s writing a book. He also watched the Dem gun control sit-in, apparently. His twitter feed alone is exhausting :)
jl
@Brachiator:
” The youngs who voted for Sanders will mostly come home. ”
Emphasis added.
Of course many young adults who support Sanders are not attached to a political party. They are young. You admit it yourself when you have to add ‘would have’ (if they had been old enough then to vote) supported Obama. The GOP has alienated them by adopting policies that have reduced their opportunities compared to their parents and grand parents. You capture these people’s loyalty to a political party by deeds and actions that show you are concerned about their problems, and offering specific policy proposals that are consistent with their values and offer them a better life. Which is exactly what HRC is doing.
I’m old enough and have voted Democratic long enough, I suppose, to belong to the ‘Grand Mystic Order and Treehouse Club of Eternal Fossil Democrats’ that some seem to cherish. But I have no interest in that conception of a political party. Youth in this country have been abandoned by the GOP, Maybe I should say actively exploited by their policies, as have many other groups. We have to reach out to groups that are not established Democrats when we can do so in a way that is consistent with core principles. And I think we can do just that with the vast majority of young adults.
inventor
@Brachiator: We’re fookin’ dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed!
The Other Chuck
@? Martin: So. Very. Fucking. This.
Punchy
@Linnaeus: “Invagination” sounds like it belongs in a tweet about visiting a country particularly dominated by women.
gogol's wife
@Keith G:
Excellent. He seems to be hitting his stride.
gogol's wife
@Mnemosyne:
Oh, and wasn’t the Reagan speechwriter good last night too?
jl
@inventor: Thanks. I was going to add something like that. Yeesh. Some people love to doom and gloom around this blog.
Miss Bianca
@Punchy: Vlada the Invaginator!
The Other Chuck
@Punchy: I tried to pitch that idea as a play, but it totally folded.
The Other Chuck
@Miss Bianca: Sounds like a perfect porn title to me.
Linnaeus
@D58826:
I know it’s an oversimplification, but I think the basic point still stands: austerity doesn’t work. So I’m inclined to be a little more forgiving of that statement as a piece of political rhetoric.
? Martin
@Anoniminous:
Oh, no, I agree completely. But that can take a long-ass time (go ask anyone who felt victorious after the Civil Rights Act). And in that time, you may be more successful on one side of that equation than on the other. (It works both ways – you do get socially liberal individuals that are anti-multicultural, thought that’s a bit harder trick to pull off). Consider the historic labor base of the Democratic party, primarily white, supportive of safety net, labor rights, taxation, etc. That was West Virginia. They don’t seem so down with the multiculturalism/pluralism angle.
Eventually we’ll get there as you note, but I’m expecting a lot of disappointment along the way.
LAO
@Mike J: Ryan Bundy has gone full Sovereign Citizen. It’s pretty funny.
Uncle Cosmo
@different-church-lady: Try “a great 51st through 60th states” presuming the provinces were grandfathered in (though PEI [140K inhabitants] & Newfoundland/Labrador [515K] would become the two least populated states). The Yukon, Northwest Territories & Nunavut would probably stay territories for a good long while, as none of them has even 43K inhabitants.
/pedant
Miss Bianca
@gogol’s wife: @Mnemosyne: Oh, and I liked this one from the “Conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace”:
I think “Sad!” might be the word you’re groping for, buddy boy.
@LAO: You mean he wasn’t already?
The Other Chuck
Each day through my window
I watch her as she passes by
I say to myself
You’re such a lucky guy
To have a girl like her
Is truly a dream come true
Out of all the fellas in the world
She belongs to you
But it was just my invagination
Runnin’ away with me-once again
Seems it was just my invagination
Runnin’ away with me
Miss Bianca
@The Other Chuck: Oh, bad, BAD, pun. ; )
Mnemosyne
@The Other Chuck:
I don’t want to get too far into it, but Bennett wrote in his autobiography about having to deal with anti-Italian prejudice when he was in the Army during WWII. And, yes, it was commonly thought that any performer with a “foreign” name needed to Anglicize it in order to be successful, which is why Hope suggested a “simpler” (more Anglo) stage name.
The only I-A singer of that generation that I can think of who did not Anglicize his name was Frank Sinatra, but I’m not sure his name was as instantly recognizable as being Italian as Benedetto or Martino were.
Amir Khalid
@Miss Bianca:
The word you’re thinking of is “evagination”. That’s when something sticks out to form a protrusion.
Mike E
Another gem from Colbert:
“I believe in science!” You know Hillary really meant that, since she said it while wearing a lab coat.
Trollhattan
@Mnemosyne:
Bob Hope suggested he shorten it to “Frankie Sin” but Frank was having none of that.
You could look it up.
The Other Chuck
@Mnemosyne: Good point… I hadn’t thought of Hope’s motivations as being anything but the fact that “Tony Bennet” was just a punchier stage name.
? Martin
This is what this week is about.
All of the women in that room immediately saw the utility and necessity of a product that the men could not see. The men didn’t need to be evil or immoral, they just had to be stubborn and ignorant (which we all are in our own ways). But because the men has the power and made the decisions, the decisions didn’t get made the way they should have. It took over a decade to get the men in line, not just her bosses but the men in Congress and the FDA and elsewhere. We’ve been holding ourselves back and the GOP would hold us back even more if they could. Had women had an equal vote in that room, in the FDA, in Congress, it wouldn’t have taken 10 years.
Miss Bianca
@Amir Khalid: Thank you! ; ) What a fascinating joint this is, to be sure! If I were a more learned sort of cove myself, I’d make some sort of etymological/scientic observation how the term “vaginate” is being used to mean both intrusion *and* extrusion, but since I’m a bear of very little brain, I’ll leave that to others.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mnemosyne: I can remember when “last name ends in a vowel” was a common WASP dismissive meme.
Funny how Scalia, Tancredo, and Arpaio could not or can’t remember that.
? Martin
And this is what last week was about.
I understand every stupid legal fantasy behind that (including why he doesn’t capitalize his name) and it just stuns me that these are the people the GOP profess to care more about.
Adam L Silverman
@Linnaeus: Blackhawks is Khabibulin.
LAO
@Miss Bianca: Not like this (I’ve read the fillings — they are bananas.)
Raw Story link
OPB link
Trollhattan
@Miss Bianca:
Barely related, Hillary’s little-discussed law enforcement initiative as inspired by the Swedes. Yuuuge reduction in complaints of police militarization the most obvious benefit.
Adam L Silverman
@Kay: I grew up in Florida. I was making a joke about old people having to eat by 4:30 PM and usually at Golden Corral. Never mind…
Trollhattan
@? Martin:
Isn’t it sad when cousins marry?
Keith P.
Oh, man, I needed that today.
inventor
@? Martin:
I don’t know that one, or why is his last name “man”.
Kay
The thing that I find so amusing is the earnestness.
At all times!
Miss Bianca
@? Martin: @LAO: Shorter Ryan Bundy: I R A Idiot. Period.
@Trollhattan: With the accent on the “barely”, you scallywag, you!
burnspbesq
@piratedan:
The best part is that they found discriminatory intent, so NC goes back into pre-clearance.
Pat McCrory will be walking funny for a while after today.
Matt McIrvin
@? Martin: Because law, like religion, is about the use of magical secret unlock codes and incantations.
sigaba
@Kay: A friend of mine’s brother was a big Berner and always votes Green or Libertarian. He’s switched to 100% Hillary ever since he found out Tim Kaine played harmonica in a folk band.
Voters are miraculous, and suck, and are miraculous.
Soylent Green
@Punchy: Death by snu snu.
Miss Bianca
@LAO: OMG…you know, I’ve been toying with the notion of writing a novel based on the whole Bundy sovereign citizen thing, but…I CANNOT make this shit up, I’d end up just quoting these guys verbatim and having people accuse me of making it up.
@Kay: This just delights me in all kinds of ways. Like, if there’s a jam session happening anywhere in the world, Tim Kaine is ON IT, man. In all the major keys!
Tokyokie
@slag: When I was in junior high, my pal Dempsey and I would split the price of a bag of circus peanuts at the five-and-dime, then sneak them into the movie theater. It turned into a weird and silly ritual. We had to finish the bag before the end of the movie, and we both had to have the exact same number of circus peanuts, even if it meant tearing the last one in two. There were several times one of us had to cram down four of the damn things as the final credits rolled. So referring to this asshole as the Angry Circus Peanut I find especially funny. Although trying to eat four circus peanuts at once was funnier.
LAO
@sigaba: I don’t want to be rude, but that is the stupidest thing I’ve heard today and I think he should be denied the right to vote!
That being said — one more vote for Hillary.
Villago Delenda Est
@Matt McIrvin: Wingardium Leviosa!
LAO
@Matt McIrvin: Absolutely — that why law school is 3 years, takes time to learn this shit.
@Miss Bianca: Do it! I read it and even write a blurb for the back cover extolling its veracity.
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
I admit, I liked how they worked in her unconventional love story with the one guy in that room who thought hers was the best design. They “lived in sin” for 41 years, until his death.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@LAO: @LAO:
The Coulterwocky whined about the speech, too. She’s such a toad.
Mnemosyne
@sigaba:
That sounds like someone who was dying to be convinced.
Brachiator
@Redshift:
Well said. As it is, both Obama and the First Lady have been pelted with the bizarre accusations that they hate white people and have secret plans to imprison them all in FEMA camps.
And I heard some guy interviewed at the Republican Convention claim that Obama had halved the military budget, and then cut it some more, and then cut it in half again, and then gave the money to black people on welfare. So these people look to Trump not only to restore jobs,but to restore a racial hierarchy in which white people come first.
SiubhanDuinne
@Kay:
I really hope he’s practicing “Hail to the Chief” and “Hail, Columbia,” both complete with ruffles and flourishes. Maybe he can relieve the Marine Band on some upcoming ceremonial occasion.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
My apologies for the above bold facing. It’s my damn dainty digits!
Trollhattan
@Kay:
Onion’s VP Desk staff probably having full-time meetings working up their treatment. Seems like they have rich ore to mine.
scav
ryan c, man. ee cummings more talented legal brother?
LAO
@West of the Rockies (been a while): Every conservative “pundit” jumped all over her though. Anne is a vile human being.
ETA: I though the Bold was for drama.
? Martin
@inventor: So, as Matt notes, its a magical secret unlock code. The theory is that each person is really two personas – the legal one owned by the government evidenced by your birth certificate which has your name in all caps ‘JOHN COLE’, which is what all legal incidents are tied to, and your physical form which is indicated by not using capital letters, or by changing how you refer to yourself in various ways. The legal persona is who owns all of your debts, the one that courts are indicting, etc. Ryan is pulling out all of the magical incantations here including declaring that he is divorced from his government-owned persona, evidence by the very different statement of his name. Basically he’s saying that the US laws apply to RYAN BUNDY, legal entity, and not to him and therefore he’s wrongly imprisoned.
Mnemosyne
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
John Podhoretz — yeah, that Islam-bashing sexist asshole — tweeted back that he was ashamed to know her.
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
liberal
Consistency is for the little people.
Trollhattan
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Once thought she was performance art taken to lousy extremes; now acknowledge it’s really her to the sulfuric-acid core. She’s gonna become Leona Helmsley pretty soon.
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
Still amazed that these kinds of filings don’t automatically lead to a mandatory 72-hour hold in the looney bin.
Ian
@Trentrunner:
I really do not get you one bit. One day you rage against MRA’s, the next you criticize someone for their physical shape. Do you have no internal consistancy or is it only okay when it happens to people you don’t like?
burnspbesq
@LAO
4Cir grants rehearing en banc in approximately 0.3 percent of cases.
linky
liberal
@Brachiator:
But did the interviewer point out to the guy that he doesn’t know WTF he’s talking about? I predict “no”.
I saw some stupid woman in the local starbucks going on a few days ago to some group of older guys in their late 60s/70s (who didn’t appear to be crazy) about how Obama has destroyed this country, blah blah blah. I really don’t think that for all these people it’s about the “blahs” not knowing their place. I think their perception of reality is so f*cked up they really believe what they’re saying.
Aleta
@Miss Bianca: Funny how these conservatives forgot to clarify these ‘Republican issues’ when HW Bush was using racism, fear of crime, and law’norder in 1988. When GW and Cheney used fear hate and anger to silence critics and get whatever they wanted for 8 years. Come to think of it McCain/Palin ran on fear hate and anger too! It took them almost 30 years to make the distinction between good R values and ones that they don’t recognize?
Survival is such a motivator; they’re working hard today to rebuild their nest as it’s being blown apart. What a shame they got a late start. How unfortunate it took them a year before they had time to listen to hair-brain.
Brachiator
@inventor: No, we are not doomed at all. This is why people work to get out the vote. And you have to know where you have to work harder. This is why Team Clinton is going to hit the swing states hard. How is this controversial?
burnspbesq
@pseudonymous in nc:
There’s a beautiful passage on page 11 of the slip opinion about how the bill was aimed “with almost surgical precision” at African-American voters.
sigaba
@burnspbesq: Sound like a skeptical bunch.
Villago Delenda Est
@Aleta: They’ve been building the Drumpf monster since Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” in 1968.
It’s all on them. Drumpf is the apotheosis of everything they’ve done since 1964.
Matt McIrvin
Russian cyber-criminals sure seem to be keen on doxxing the donor lists of anyone who opposes the Law ‘n’ Order Party.
sigaba
@liberal:
The country is so ruined she freely condemned the head of state in a public space without any fear of reprisal, all while sipping a latte and waiting for the cashier to run her Amex.
Edit- And I’m not trying to like, minimize it or make it seem like Starbucks patronage = a great country, but I don’t think people realize just how well off we are. When I go through South America, particularly to visit family in Ecuador, you really can’t get coffee from a chain coffee shop, you can’t run a credit card because the banks are all fucked up and everyone carries around hundreds of dollars in cash (and in Ecuador they use US dollars because their currency collapsed). And in mixed company you really can’t slag on Correa, if you say it in front of the wrong person you’re liable to get socked in the mouth.
Brachiator
@liberal:
It’s not the job of a good interviewer to debate or to shut down the person they are talking to.
To the contrary. Racists know exactly what they are saying, and why they are saying it. People who deny this don’t have a clear perception of reality.
Ian
@? Martin:
All four of them? In seriousness, any union member that votes Republican is probably lost ground to us. They clearly care more for the Dobson ‘family values’ than any economic issue.
liberal
@Face: No it’s not. Abortion rights, sure, could go backwards. But gay marriage itself? Nope. The bigots have irreversibly lost that war, regardless of what the courts might do.
What really would be irreversible in the wrong direction? Federal land. The pricks would give it all to the states, and the states would give it away to the well-connected. And there’s no way we could get it back, no matter how many seats on the USSC we have, number of Congressional seats, etc.
burnspbesq
@NorthLeft12:
If you want to become part of America, you have to do away with box. The Creator intends lacrosse to be played on grass, not concrete.
burnspbesq
@LAO:
This afternoon’s “Left Right & Center” could be pretty funny, between Barro trolling Lowry and Robert Scheer pissing and moaning about the Democrats turning their backs on Saint Bernard.
Brachiator
@jl:
The yoots feel abandoned by the Democrats as well. One of the wonderful links here about the youth Vote revealed that Sanders won more of this demographic than Trump and Clinton combined. And Sanders is not a Democrat, he owes no loyalty to the party, and he lobbies hard for open primaries, to break the idea of lockstep party loyalty.
And it is not that the youth have been abandoned by the GOP. College educated young people find the GOP to be repellent. But where they were attracted by Obama, Hillary has to work harder to gain their vote, maybe harder than she should have to, but that’s just the political fact.
And I think that Hillary will be successful in her efforts. Again, my point is that the voters of 2016 differ from the voters of 2012 in a number of key ways. But clearly the Democrats are aware of this. They also have an advantage in having the active support of the president and vice president, and powerful surrogates like Warren and Bernie Sanders himself.
jl
@Brachiator: OK, Thanks. You have sober and dour optimism, then. Full speed ahead.
trnc
@Schlemazel Khan:
Not with all the pyrih he has his fingers in.
? Martin
@Brachiator:
Yep. My kids are horrified by Trump, but they have serious concerns with both Clinton/Obama and issues that really aren’t being well addressed. Among other things they see government as technologically backward and many of the policies that follow also being backward as a result. It is intensely frustrating for them to try and fit into a 1960s era world, things that I take for granted because I grew up in it.
sm*t cl*de
@rikyrah:
That is a worship word. Yang worship. You will not speak it.
jl
@sm*t cl*de:
They were never big on the ‘a decent respect to the opinions of mankind ‘ stuff. We can have that without them squealing about it, right?
les
@? Martin: Wow. Do you have a long tedious self -involved book I could put on the shelf and never read?
Li'l Innocent
@? Martin: Let’s hope they don’t take up their arms in despair. And, please, schtum with the “some calamity befalling Clinton” thing? I don’t know exactly how it was meant – purely political calamity I suppose – but you notice Hill’s got a wall of exceptionally large Secret Svc agents around her. And IMO if any non-political personal misfortune struck, it would not benefit the GOP.
Brachiator
@efgoldman:
I love your fortune cookie bromides. Totally irrelevant to anything I said, but pretty damn funny.
J R in WV
@Soylent Green:
The soldier in question died in the service of this nation, in a heroic action intended to save the lives of civilians and fellow soldiers. For which action he was awarded medals, posthumously. What a dweeb “pbdunl” is!!
If this stupid bigot had completed a hitch in any branch of the military (possibly excluding the AF which appears to be somewhat infiltrated by xtianist bigots) he would know better.
bago
@slag: You sir need an insult generator!
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The Other Chuck
@? Martin: Ok, there’s the lack of capitalization then … where’s the “idiot” part come in? Is he just being refreshingly honest, or is that just another word for unlocking the legal horcrux?
J R in WV
@Shalimar:
I have a friend who is an Episcopal priest, who gets paid a salary, earns a pension, healthcare, works for the diocese, regular job, kind of. Friend once rode beside a fundigelical minister for an airline trip. Once they introduced themselves, of course the next question is what do you do?
So after some job related chat, fundy minister asks priest “What’s your take?” – he was getting no salary, benefits, just a percentage of the cash total donated each day he preaches at “his” church! So Mammon is all he can think about as he preaches the gospel. No wonder they preach about donations bringing prosperity!
Brachiator
@? Martin:
This was an amazing story. All the more amazing that the official story could well have left out Ms Crane’s contributiocontribution.
No One You Know
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: It’s the only thing he can take from her. Anything else he gets, she gave him.
Caravelle
@Brachiator: Actually part of the point of the story is that it did – the reporter themselves talk about having written an earlier article about the history of pregnancy tests that didn’t include her, and it’s reading that story that pushed her to get into the public eye and tell her own story.