Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Republicans do not trust women.

Washington Post Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

White supremacy is terrorism.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Dear elected officials: Trump is temporary, dishonor is forever.

Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

They don’t have outfits that big. nor codpieces that small.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. keep building.

Sometimes the world just tells you your cat is here.

They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

There is no right way to do the wrong thing.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

This fight is for everything.

With all due respect and assumptions of good faith, please fuck off into the sun.

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  1. 1.

    amk

    coulter couldn’t even get his name right. Typical ignorant rethug moron.

    Is josh barro the only one with the guts call out his party?

  3. 3.

    Big R

    Good morning from Poznan! Today’s plan involves returning to Warsaw, since my flight out is fairly early tomorrow (noon, which is early if I started the day with a three hour train ride). In Warsaw, I plan to hit the Jewish museum and the cathedral. I couldn’t get to Poznan’s cathedral because it was too far east from my hotel.

    The weather is gross today. It’s a good day to ride a train and go to a museum.

  4. 4.

    ruemara

    I kinda wish I could feel the thrill of a candidate, like these guys do, but I need to see them govern to fall in love. I was dispassionate on Obama too until about 2 years into his presidency. But overall, she proved to be the most rational, credible choice. I’m glad I put aside personal anathema and gave both candidates a shot. Now, let’s win this thing.

  5. 5.

    raven

    @ruemara: That thrill stuff is pretty rare. A few of us who were in Operation Dewey Canyon Three talked right after Kerry got the nomination. We recalled how we laughed at this “officer” who acted like he was in charge the week we were in DC. Obviously we needed someone like him to give the remarks to the Senate committee but the VVAW was made up, by and large, enlisted. We wanted him to win but were sure were not “thrilled”. One thing that struck me last night was the rah-rah “patriotism”. Kerry tried that too and it didn’t mean shit. “Reporting for duty” just made him more of a target and when he didn’t stand up to the Swift Boat fuckers right away he was sunk.

  6. 6.

    David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch

    PHILADELPHIA — (NYT) Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, who sacrificed personal ambition for her husband’s political career and then rose to be a globally influential figure, became the first woman to accept a major party’s presidential nomination on Thursday night, a prize that generations of American women have dreamed about for one of their own.

  9. 9.

    MJS

    Up since 4:00 dealing with a kidney stone. Reading the positive reviews of the speech helps. It had the potential to be a clunker at least in comparison to some of the others. Glad to see no one with any intellectual honesty is saying that.

  10. 10.

    piratedan

    while I thought that the reverend from NC was an incredibly powerful speaker with an awesome message, I really believe what is going to turn this election on its head is if the DNC runs Mr. and Mrs Khan’s speech on a wide distribution. THAT message puts paid to all of the fucking Islamophobia that runs apeshit over in conservative circles and should (no guarantees because some of those fuckers are truly willfully evil) drive a dagger though the heart of anyone who has been fed an unhealthy dose of that shit and bring them back into the light.

    With a follow up by the diverse military presence that essentially stated that Trump isn’t strong, he’s a fucking narcissist with a messiah complex should also strip away some of that neo-con veneer that the GOP has lacquered themselves in.

  11. 11.

    Splitting Image

    The line that stood out to me: “The choice is clear.”

    Never before has there been two more different candidates w two more diff agendas

    You don’t suppose any of Trump’s family will be dumb enough to accuse Clinton of plagiarizing Lyndon Johnson, do you?

    “In your gut you know he’s nuts.”

  12. 12.

    Keith G

    @ruemara: I donno what part of life you are in, but I left “falling in love” with a political leader way back in my 20s.

    Leaders in government are civil servants. They have a tough job to do and any deeper affection is earned by the competency of their efforts.

    Hillary did good, as we say down here. She is not a big room speaker and she performed well, considering that. She was not helped by the dynamics of having to contrast Trump’s lack of policy by making this a speech about policy. Jon Favreau (Obama Speech writer, 09 to13) has some simple rules for great speeches and he tells how acceptance speeches are hard to fit in that mold. One rule: Shorter is better than longer. Hillary’s speech needed about 10 minutes edited away.

    But’s its over and it’s good. In contravention to some cheerless comments I saw earlier yesterday, the Bernie folks were not an issue. Hillary and Tim are now free to go hop a bus and win some votes in PA & OH.

    As always, David Plouffe had a good Tweet

    David Plouffe ‏@davidplouffe 6h6 hours ago
    It takes a village. And one tyrant to burn it down. Defeat the tyrant before he has the matches.

  16. 16.

    Keith P.

    It is so damn funny to read all the right-wingers flipping out because the GOP convention told us how bad America was, while Hilary Clinton’s convention was a celebration of America, its diversity, and its values. I’m real curious where Trump will be in 5 years.

  17. 17.

    David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch

    Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni

    A woman is the center of the world’s attention at this moment and her sexuality and desirability as a sex object has nothing to do with it

    1,763 retweets 3,588 likes

    Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni

    You are watching a woman take power and her husband is watching with pride. We have never been just for ourselves before like this.

    388 retweets 997 likes

    Xeni Jardin ‏@xeni

    I have never witnessed this before. Shades of it. But not like this. This is saying something to my female soul that sets me free.

    81 retweets 261 likes

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    MJS

    @Keith P.: Sadly, in 5 years, Trump will be where every losing Republican presidential candidate ends up – with a standing gig on the Sunday morning gab fests

  21. 21.

    aliasofwestgate

    The speakers and the audience really made the idea/philosophy from star trek feel possible. Infinite Diversity Infinite Combinations. We united in a celebration of our diversity and the strength of it! I’m no trekker but I have loved the series for that idea since I was little. Seeing it demonstrated nationally, much less politically has been a pipe dream since W and 9 11. Hillary drew it all together into a glorious whole with that speech. I’m gonna remember this as I do Obama winning the presidential election in 08.

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    I liked the simplicity of Megyn Kelly’s

    Whereupon a woman, a mother, walked out on stage, hugged her daughter and accepted a presidential nomination.

    I can tell it meant a lot to her.

  23. 23.

    Betty Cracker

    @piratedan: That moment when Mr. Khan offered to lend Trump his copy of the US Constitution was incredibly powerful. I noticed the tweeting imbecile didn’t have a come-back for that.

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    Somewhere in a back room the G.O.P. House nut caucus is already drawing up plans to make history through having the first ever impeached Presidential couple.

    Wish could say that’s hyperbole, but they’re so unhinged I fear it’s a realistic assessment.

  27. 27.

    p.a.

    Just a very interesting historical time, as the right has been self-exposed, first by the nomination and 2x election of an African American, then by the nom. of the right’s major bête noir, woman to boot. The fear and rage at the heart (base?) of the movement burned off whatever was left of the facade of politics-as-usual for those who would see (*cough* MSM *cough*).

    Almost as if it were planned- not that anyone would give the Dems credit for THAT ability :-) The FSM moves in mysterious ways.

  29. 29.

    J R in WV

    It was amazingballs good. I heard Gen. Allen, who couldn’t get more than a phrase or short sentence out without the crowd bursting out with USA! USA! USA!

    And anyone who asked about flags can STFU now, ’cause there were like 10000 of them all being waved by people who love this country more than The Donald.

  30. 30.

    RK

    Seemed a very successful convention but we’ll see what the numbers say. Hopefully they moved some of the Indie and moderate Republican moms they were going after.

    Mr. Kahn reminded us in the sharpest of terms that Trump is an indecent fraud.

  31. 31.

    Darkrose

    I had to rage quit out of guild chat in Final Fantasy XIV tonight because of an asshole Bernie Bro. Someone commented that he’d meant to watch the speech, just because it was historic, and he wondered if people showed enthusiasm. I mentioned that there were a lot of women of all ages who were pretty enthusiastic, and I added that it was pretty amazing for me to see something in two different elections that I’d dreamed about as a kid.

    So this dude replied, “Oh, you’ve always dreamed about the Democrats rigging an election for the candidate who will best serve their corporate masters?”

    A couple of people noted that the system has always been rigged in one way or another. I didn’t really want to get into it so I tried to joke about it, pointed out that as a born and raised Chicagoan, I always assume the system is rigged. Bro sneered about how Trump was going to win because the Democrats are idiots. I gently mentioned that Hillary won because more Democratic voters chose her in the primary, and was he really calling all of those voters idiots because they chose a different candidate than the one he supported?”

    Yes, he replied, he was.

    I said, “Wow, thanks.”

    “You’re welcome.”

    I was hungry, exhausted, and the Giants were losing yet again, so I quit the game before I damaged my laptop or said something I’d regret, like, “Shitheads like you are one of the main reasons a lot of folks didn’t vote for Bernie, so take your purity trolling and fuck off.”

    I should mention that I’m in an LGBT guild whose members are overwhelmingly gay white men in their 20’s and early 30’s. For the most part, they’re a good group, but there are definitely times–like today–where I want to shake some of them and yell, “Women exist, even gay women! Also, I’m old enough to be your mother so don’t try to lecture me on how the world works.”

    Sorry, I just had to get that out.

  35. 35.

    Penus

    @amk: I think you mean Weaver, who worked on the Kasich campaign and has always been one of the good Republicans. Barro has never struck me as right-wing.

  36. 36.

    msdc

    @J R in WV:

    It was amazingballs good. I heard Gen. Allen, who couldn’t get more than a phrase or short sentence out without the crowd bursting out with USA! USA! USA!

    That was the DNC’s strategy for dealing with the hecklers–drown them out with positive cheers so the audience at home couldn’t tell. I thought it worked brilliantly.

    Those Clinton people, they sweat the details.

  37. 37.

    msdc

    @msdc: (Seriously, my favorite part about that is the instruction to join them on the two chants with positive messages. Co-opt the assholery. I love it.)

  38. 38.

    Darkrose

    @eclare: Thanks–food helped. I’m not feeling brave so much as I am tired. With each passing year I have less patience for bullshit and yea and verily, the field in which I have planted my fucks is barren.

  40. 40.

    Gavin

    Hey, Barro? Those aren’t “Republican” tropes. Never have been.

    Unless, of course, you mean to imply that Republicans are the only real America.

    Frankly, I think it’s the Republicans who have been co-opting DEMOCRATIC tropes for far, far too long.

    I’ll take “Party leading the US during both world wars for 200, Alex.” Yep, Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat. You already knew FDR was.

  41. 41.

    leeleeFL

    @Darkrose: Yea, verily, indeed! I am finding my patience string shorter than it used to be also. Not sure how to remedy that or even if I want to. My field, it is also barren.

  42. 42.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @MJS:

    Sadly, in 5 years, Trump will be where every losing Republican presidential candidate ends up – with a standing gig on the Sunday morning gab fest

    More likely the host of some prime time talking heads show.

  43. 43.

    ruemara

    @Darkrose: girl, I’ve said much worse in guild chat. Which is why I became 2nd in charge. No one fucked with me. Especially about politics since I knew my stuff. Say it and don’t back down.

  48. 48.

    ruemara

    @Darkrose: wow. Rexxar server. Funny, cause a friend of mine has a ton of rose___ names for all her toons. I don’t run with a guild any more, which I miss, but I took over an abandoned guild, The Disbanded. Almost all the members are me. Lead alt is Soridormos but I’m working on Invictus during my rare time to play.

  49. 49.

    Citizen_X

    @Keith P.: Where will Trump be in five years? I don’t know, where do Russian mobsters typically dispose of their victims?

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    @Dadadadadadada

    Huh? The House impeaches, not the Senate. The Senate convicts.

    As the umpty-ump ACA repeal votes demonstrate, the House nut caucus doesn’t give a fig whether anything has a likelihood of advancing beyond their chamber.

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