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My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

A Senator Walker would be an insult to the state and the nation.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Consistently wrong since 2002

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Bark louder, little dog.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

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  1. 1.

    Iowa Old Lady

    From Bob Owens, editor of Bearing Arms.com: “That was a threat of real violence. As a REAL supporter of #2A, this is appalling to me.”

    Someone posted this on my FB feed.

  3. 3.

    Jeff Spender

    Appalling. Just appalling. Not just Trump, but these fucks. I’m so sick of this.

  6. 6.

    jl

    @Baud: Fanning bigotry fear and hate for cheap political points is not an ‘actual reason’?
    Sometimes I just can’t figure what this Baud person is talking about.

  7. 7.

    The Dangerman

    I don’t get the freakout over the Father. he didn’t shoot up the place. If he had any complicity, his ass would be in jail. He isn’t so what’s the problem?

  12. 12.

    jake the antisoshul soshulist

    Who is Hillary supposed to disavow?

    I know the wingnuts have come up with some slander about the Muslim parents like they did about the clock kid’s family.

  13. 13.

    jl

    @Doug!: I think that is true, I’ve read that the Orlando shooters dad has written favorable things about the Taliban, and he is a puritanical conservative Muslim. But the Taliban is a very broad and poorly defined group, not the same as al-Qaeda or ISIL.

  15. 15.

    scav

    @Iowa Old Lady: hmmm. I assume this one must spend at least a little time on the water (instead of 24/7 at the range) as he can apparently recognize an anchor when it pursues him. Remembers critical bits of his boy scout knot untying badge too.

    If that lot breaks out into infighting, I’ll need to invent an entirely new addictive snack food.

  18. 18.

    hellslittlestangel

    I guess Clinton was supposed to incite other attendees at the rally to beat the man up.

    @Iowa Old Lady: Is that the same Bob Owens who ran the Confederate Yankee blog?

  19. 19.

    Mnemosyne

    @jl:

    You can be anti-gay and love the Taliban and still not want your son to be a mass murderer. Assuming he’s not totally nuts (which is certainly possible), he may feel bad that his son would commit such a horrible crime.

  20. 20.

    Mary G

    He worked at Business Insider until Buzzfeed hired him then Time poached him. He has a big Twitter following. Nature abhors a vacuum so I guess he’s been appointed the new Fournier.

  22. 22.

    TK

    Didn’t dad just attend an event open to the public? What’s Clinton supposed to do, vet every audience member? Like to see that standard applied to Trump.

  23. 23.

    Ian

    @jl:
    The Taliban is the Pashtun equivalant of Hezbollah or Hamas. They have a standing force and can disrupt the government of Afghanistan (and to a lesser extent Pakistan). The Taliban also provides social and religious services to the Pashtun areas that too often recieve nothing from the central governments. It is only because we refuse to see naunce and shades of grey that most people in the United States see them as Al-Qaeda.

  27. 27.

    SFAW

    This campaign is starting to depress the shit out of me. If there were any person in this world whom Deadbeat Donnie respected, one would hope that person would go to Shitgibbon and say “What the fuck is WRONG WITH YOU?”

    Of course, the only person Deadbeat appears to have respected, ever, was that sterling example of all that is good in Humanity, Roy Cohn. Who, thankfully, is still just as dead as el Generalissimo, Dead Andy Breitbart, and Fat Nino.

    I just hope I get a unicorn out of all this. (Where Unicorn = Dem controlled House, filibuster-proof Dem majority in the Sen, and President Hillary. And Mitch McConnell tried for sedition.)

  30. 30.

    jl

    @TK: Yes, should recognize and throw out anyone that anyone else finds objectionable. Clinton rules always apply to a Clinton. By definition. QED.

  35. 35.

    Mnemosyne

    @Ian:

    Well, the Taliban are also repressive assholes who were publicly executing rule-breaking women in soccer stadiums when they were in charge of Afghanistan, but, again, they’re usually not committing outside acts of terrorism, just terrorizing people within their immediate control. Like Opus Dei Catholics vs the IRA.

  36. 36.

    cokane

    @Baud: ya tbh it’s disappointing, i havent followed his twitter, but his stories mostly seemed just fine, going after Mateen’s father in that tweet is just absurdly offensive? Unless I missed some reason he was culpable in that shooting?

  43. 43.

    Hunter Gathers

    Trump could start advocating for cannibalism and Clinton will be deemed just as bad for not eating a Philly cheesesteak correctly.

  46. 46.

    Jeffro

    @WereBear:

    And you know, as George HW Bush famously said, nothing happens in August.

    I thought that was Andy Card, one of W’s minions, talking about not “rolling out a product” (i.e. the campaign to ‘sell’ the Iraq War) before Labor Day.

    Jesus I hate these people

  47. 47.

    hellslittlestangel

    @SFAW: Nor is there anyone who respects Little Gloves, or even likes him. He’s got sycophants, creditors, and that pack of shit-head offspring who expect to inherit his estate — nothing else.

  48. 48.

    GOVCHRIS1988

    Welcome to Silly Season, where a death incitement is the equivalent of the father of a mass murderer with no connection to Hillary Rodham Clinton or the Clinton campaign showing up at a political rally open to the public according to our horserace narrative addicted media.

  49. 49.

    Roger Moore

    @scav:

    If that lot breaks out into infighting, I’ll need to invent an entirely new addictive snack food.

    It had better have 0 calories, because we aren’t going to be able to stop eating it.

  50. 50.

    Schlemazel

    @SFAW:
    sorry, 6 by 7 = 42

    too also, baud is baud is
    . . . . . . ^ ^ ^ . . . . . have to picture that in a circle

  53. 53.

    Hunter Gathers

    @Baud: She’ll make the mistake of not getting cheeze whiz on it, and Wolf Blitzer will claim she’s Not A Woman of the People, unlike Trump, who eats his corpses with cheese from a can, like Real Americans. He’ll be like Doctor Lecter, without the manners or good taste.

  54. 54.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    Baud will take you to Hell and halfway back, then he’ll turn around, drive back to Hell and shove you out of the car.

    You deserve it. You deserve Baud. You know it’s true.

    Baud! Because 2016 means NOW.

  56. 56.

    slag

    @TK:

    Didn’t dad just attend an event open to the public? What’s Clinton supposed to do, vet every audience member? Like to see that standard applied to Trump.

    Trump’s Disavow List:

    Everyone Who Supports Donald Trump
    (The End)

  58. 58.

    Schlemazel

    @hellslittlestangel:
    It also was a blegging blog after a storm knocked over his bbq grill he showed a picture & asked for donations to replace it . . . seriously! AKA “gun counter gomer” and “treason in defense of slavery”

  59. 59.

    SFAW

    @Schlemazel:

    sorry, 6 by 7 = 42

    You need to work on your advance theological math skills.

    [Note: Originally, I was going to bust your cultural (il)literacy something fierce, but then realized that 42 had not been mentioned in this thread. I mean, you’re still wrong, but at least you’re aware of all Innertubez something something.]

  61. 61.

    scav

    @Miss Bianca: It’s not just violence against women that puts it over the line. It’s normalizing, suggesting, inciting violence against those you are in conflict with. Of any of the nine hundred and ninety-nine genders. Is this part of his secret deal-making strategies he promised the punters at Trump U? Certainly puts “You’re Fired!” as a go-to business skill in a whole new light.

  62. 62.

    Baud

    He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Baud!

  65. 65.

    Schlemazel

    @Baud:
    Peawit that srv is of course he isn’t – he just isn’t smart enough to know that is exactly what he did. In his mind he thinks this makes Cole look bad. Room temp IQ, but not in August, room temp in March, in Duluth MN,

  68. 68.

    bemused

    Republicans across the country must have let out a collective OH SHIT as soon as Trump opened his mouth.

    I don’t get how people can be parsing what Trump meant or what his intent was. I know how my heart and stomach reacted when I heard him say it. What isn’t debatable, imo, is what so many rabid Trump supporters and other people two bricks shy of a load heard. He knew he was inciting and he didn’t care.

  72. 72.

    James E Powell

    @Ian:

    It is only because we refuse to see naunce and shades of grey that most people in the United States see them as Al-Qaeda.

    It’s a bit more than that.

  73. 73.

    slag

    Gotta say Warren’s tweet is pretty spot-on though. Trump’s rhetoric is very standard fearful bully behavior.

  75. 75.

    Mnemosyne

    @Baud:

    It’s interesting to read British history and realize that gin-drinking was the crack epidemic of the 18th and 19th centuries. I don’t know if it used to be stronger, or if it was just the first easily available and cheap hard liquor, or what.

    ETA: Yes, yes, I recognize the quote. The gin reference just sent me off in a different direction.

  77. 77.

    Mike E

    @Schlemazel: but but, iirc the question was what do you get when you multiply 6 by 8…Douglas Adams was proving a point about the accuracy of theological maths, right?

  78. 78.

    SFAW

    @slag:

    Gotta say Warren’s tweet is pretty spot-on though. Trump’s rhetoric is very standard fearful bully behavior.

    But apparently she was descending to Trump’s level, according to “Trip Gabriel”

  79. 79.

    hilts

    CNN horse’s ass Erin Burnett said Warren’s tweet is one more example of this campaign becoming a race to the bottom and CNN doofus Jeff Zeleny said that Warren wasn’t keeping the discourse high minded.

  83. 83.

    WereBear

    @hilts: Which is why I never ever watch CNN unless Godzilla has been seen in my neighborhood.

    And even then, would they get the origin story right? I doubt it.

  84. 84.

    SFAW

    @hilts:

    CNN horse’s ass Erin Burnett said Warren’s tweet is one more example of this campaign becoming a race to the bottom and CNN doofus Jeff Zeleny said that Warren wasn’t keeping the discourse high minded.

    As Shakespeare or someone else said: “Fuck them and everybody that looks like them.” (I don’t recall if there was a “forsooth” or “zounds” in there. )

  86. 86.

    hilts

    Trump sock puppet Kayleigh McEnany – What Trump actually meant was that gun rights supporters should simply file amicus briefs.

  88. 88.

    Keith G

    @Mnemosyne: Part of the issue is that there was no regulation. Gin, like vodka, is easy to make, so over supply made it very cheap. Cheap enough that kids could easily afford it. Of course, those kids were working.

  90. 90.

    slag

    @hilts:

    Trump sock puppet Kayleigh McEnany – What Trump actually meant was that gun rights supporters should simply file amicus briefs.

    Oh. I get it now. Hilarious! Donald Trump’s sense of humor has no bounds. Amicus briefs! Haha!

    Seriously, for someone who courageously “tells it like it is”, he’s certainly doing a lot of flip-flopping in a very short period of time.

  92. 92.

    scav

    @hilts: Being taunted by a female is as traumatic to the tender male ego as physically bleeding out is to uppity wimminz and their sportsmoney- and gun-grabbing ways.

  93. 93.

    Plantsmantx

    U.S. headlines:

    ABC News- “Trump Says Maybe ‘2nd Amendment People’ Can Stop Clinton’s Supreme Court Picks”

    NBC News- “Trump ‘Second Amendment’ Quip Seen as Veiled Threat Against Clinton”

    CBS News- “Trump: “Second Amendment people” could do something about Clinton judge choices”

    CNN- “Trump: ‘Second Amendment people’ could deal with Clinton”

    Overseas headlines:

    The Guardian- “Trump hints at assassination of Hillary Clinton by gun rights supporters”

    Le Figaro- “Trump evokes “the Second Amendment” to stop Clinton”

    Sydney Morning Herald- “Donald Trump alludes to shooting Hillary Clinton”

    Deutsche Welle- “Trump, addressing gun supporters, hints at Clinton assassination”

    See the difference?

  94. 94.

    Mnemosyne

    True story: I never learned to multiply 8s properly because the “Schoolhouse Rock” episode with 8s had ice skaters falling through the ice, and it scared me so much that I wouldn’t watch that episode, so I never learned that part of the times table.

    Thanks, Obama!

  95. 95.

    redshirt

    @The Dangerman:

    I don’t get the freakout over the Father. he didn’t shoot up the place. If he had any complicity, his ass would be in jail. He isn’t so what’s the problem?

    Recall that one of Donald Trump’s “policies” is killing the families of terrorist. Ergo….

  96. 96.

    Mnemosyne

    @Keith G:

    And the whole feeding it to babies problem, too. Not that “Gin Lane” is a documentary, of course.

    When reading history, one does sometimes wonder how we all made it through to present day given all the stuff that used to routinely kill people.

  97. 97.

    VOR

    @Mnemosyne: And shooting 14 year old girls in the head for the crime of attending school. See Malala Yousafza, winner of the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize.

  99. 99.

    hilts

    @Plantsmantx:

    The difference is that US news execs are a bunch of bedwetters who don’t have the guts to admit to themselves that Trump is a fucking lunatic.

    And fuck MSNBC for airing a special second edition of Hardball at 11pm from now until Election Day. Chris Matthews is a smarmy, repulsive scumbag and a crime against broadcast journalism.

  102. 102.

    Gvg

    @Plantsmantx: to be fair, non Americans probably don’t get the 2nd amendment reference whereas all of us know what it means and even the different sides, interpretations and some judicial history. 2nd amendment tells us a lot, including which relatives are going to defend Trump’s statement.
    It’s still incitement to murder of course.

  103. 103.

    mike in dc

    @hilts:

    They should retire him from hosting after the election. He’s 70. I don’t want to watch this crotchety old guy reminisce about Reagan and O’Neill in 2020.

  104. 104.

    GOVCHRIS1988

    @mike in dc: Oh my God, thats ALL HE DOES. I mean, if I hear one more “Dutch and Tip” story from Sylvester the Spittle Cat, I’m liable to shoot my fucking flatscreen.

  105. 105.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Mnemosyne: The greatest thing about that cartoon is that the actual point is that it’s healthy and wholesome to drink beer all the time instead.

  107. 107.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Mnemosyne: What upset me were the Sesame Street clips in which the chef with the big tray of desserts would fall down the stairs. “SEVEN! CHOCOLATE CREAM! PIEEES!!!!!” ***SMASH***

  108. 108.

    Mnemosyne

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Exactly. Don’t smoke that crack cocaine, snort it like God intended!

    Though IIRC, they brewed most beer at a very low concentration of alcohol in those days, less than 3 percent. I could see that people who are used to near beer who start drinking gin in the same giant tankards could get themselves in trouble really fast.

  110. 110.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Mnemosyne: It’s not that I can’t sympathize: I like a good beer now and then but gin to me is just a nasty-tasting hammer to the brain.

  111. 111.

    burnspbesq

    @Mary G:

    They are trying to reach out to young Republicans, if there were any.

    There are plenty. Just drive down Fraternity Row at any SEC or Big 12 school (yes, including Vandy and Texas).

  112. 112.

    burnspbesq

    @hilts:

    What Trump actually meant was that gun rights supporters should simply file amicus briefs.

    Sure. Twelve gauge amicus briefs.

  113. 113.

    Mnemosyne

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I don’t like gin by itself, but mix it into a Tom Collins and you have something that sneaks up behind you and whacks you in the head with a hammer.

  117. 117.

    Miss Bianca

    @Matt McIrvin: “gin to me is just a nasty-tasting hammer to the brain.”

    You’re not drinking the right gin. Right now I’m drinking the Treeline Gin from a local distillery, which is Made of Awesome. Very floral, very tasty.

  118. 118.

    Credenzal Jocularity

    @hilts:
    NPR informed me that “some people claimed” Trump had suggested violence could maybe stop his opponent from appointing SCJs after she was elected.

    Then they uncritically repeated he had actually meant that 2nd Amendmenters were so good at organizing and voting that they could stop a President Clinton from appointing a SCJ because underpants gnomes.

    That amicus brief stuff is top shelf. The guys getting paid to create response bullshit should be ashamed.

    EDT: comma splice

  120. 120.

    celticdragonchick

    @srv:

    Don’t you have a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat named Lucille to get shoved into your waste disposal orifice right about now?

  121. 121.

    Brandon

    This is one case where I disagree with the bothsiderism push back. What would be the reaction if Dylan Roof’s family attended a Trump rally? Apply that same standard here.

  123. 123.

    Brandon

    @Brandon: Just to add, what would’ve been the Clinton campaign’s reaction if family of a terrorist/mass killer attended an Obama rally in 2008? Everyone saw what they did with Reverend Wright. I think it is very much fair game in this case.

  124. 124.

    Brandon

    @Omnes Omnibus: While you cannot fault the father for the sins of the son, this is politics and as I said, the Clinton campaign would probably have no compunction about using this against an adversary. I do very much believe that this is fair game.

  128. 128.

    Brandon

    @Corner Stone: I am not sure why you think I am trolling. I just believe that contrary to the generally formed opinion in this thread that having the father of a prominent mass murderer/terrorist come to a rally and have a prominent seat is very bad politics/optics.* While it is one of those things that can be difficult to impossible for a campaign to guard against, it certainly is fair game for an opponent and in a more “normal” campaign where the other candidate is not self-immolating it certainly would be something that the opposing campaign would run with. Is it unfair? Certainly. Out of bounds? Not really.

    * I should also note, for the record, that it is not equivalent to the other candidate calling for “second amendment remedies”.

  129. 129.

    J R in WV

    Let us be real here. Trump called out to his supporters to murder Hillary Clinton. This after fomenting chants of “Lock her up!” at the Republican convention. After fans at his rallies shouted “String Her Up!”

    Sp we have gone in a few short weeks from crowds shouting at their fearless leader that his opponent, a grandmother, should be lynched, to fearless leader encouraging his supporters to just shoot her now and get it over with!

    I have to admit this is more vile than I ever expected even Trump to go. But still not surprising, really. Because he has shown us over and over how vile he is.

    Perhaps this video will, with clips from earlier rallies, make a good TV commercial for October, if there are still twoany candidates running in October.

  130. 130.

    Mnemosyne

    @Brandon:

    I just believe that contrary to the generally formed opinion in this thread that having the father of a prominent mass murderer/terrorist come to a rally and have a prominent seat is very bad politics/optics.

    I see the urban legend has already grown from “he was somewhere in the crowd” to “he had a prominent seat.” You may want to check that with Snopes.com before you climb on that hobbyhorse.

    And, yeah, having the family of an avowedly white supremacist mass murderer show up at a rally for white supremacist Donald Trump would certainly send a message, but it ain’t the one you seem to think. Unless you’re under the impression that Hillary’s rally in Orlando was held to support religious violence against gay men?

    And you wonder why people assume you’re a troll.

  131. 131.

    Brandon

    @Mnemosyne: He was sitting in a position at the rally where he could be easily be pictured with Clinton. Whether he was placed there by the campaign for diversity reasons or got there on his own is not the point. The point is that he was easily pictured with the candidate in frame. Hence a “prominent seat”. It is as much fair game as the Roof family showing up for Trump, as you concede. It’s unfair that both families have to be forever be tied to monsters, but politics is never fair. Let me know when you are done pulling the fingers out of your ears.

  132. 132.

    kped

    They showed the Warren tweet on CNN (Erin Burnett’s show), and she said “that tweet is starting a race to the bottom”.

    Uhhhhh…I think that race was started and won by Trump with his assassination comment…

  133. 133.

    qwerty42

    @Mnemosyne: It’s interesting to read British history and realize that gin-drinking was the crack epidemic of the 18th and 19th centuries. I don’t know if it used to be stronger, or if it was just the first easily available and cheap hard liquor, or what. …
    I recall a quote (a bar sign, supposedly) from my English History class (many years ago) that described the wave of gin consumption: “drunk for a penny, dead drunk for two pennies”

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