Carl Paladino is Trump’s New York co-chair. During his run for governor against Andrew Cuomo (who crushed him), Carl’s habit of sending emails containing bestiality and crude racism [NSFW/NSFL Link] earned him the nickname that headlines this post. Today, Carl went on the radio and shat himself in the following manner:
“We’ve got an un-indicted felon as his opponent and you’re talking about Khan, about him making a remark about this man,” Paladino, a former New York gubernatorial candidate, told interviewer Connell McShane on Imus in the Morning. “All right, I don’t care if he’s a Gold Star parent. He certainly doesn’t deserve that title, OK, if he’s as anti-American as he’s illustrated in his speeches and in his discussion. I mean, if he’s a member of the Muslim Brotherhood or supporting, you know, the ISIS-type of attitude against America, there’s no reason for Donald Trump to have to honor this man.”
And then he proceeded to roll around in it:
Fox Business host Connell McShane was hosting Imus in the Morning and asked Paladino about his previous comments that there was “no doubt” that Obama was a Muslim. “Now I assume you don’t believe that. It’s not true…” he began.
“Wait, how do you know that’s not true?” interrupted the campaign’s New York co-chairman. “That’s not fair, Connell. You’ve formed a conclusion about a man because he’s told you that, he’s said, ‘No, I’m not a Muslim.’ Oh, that’s great.”
[…] “If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” declared Paladino.
It takes a special kind of surrogate to fuck up this badly, but Carl is very special.
Trentrunner
What exactly is a state campaign co-chair? Is it ceremonial? Can they be fired?
Roger Moore
I fail to see the fuck up. He’s accurately presenting Trump’s core message. This is who they are and who their voters want them to be.
Betty Cracker
If a disgusting racist and degenerate like Paladino were appointed state co-chair to any other major party nominee’s campaign, it would be an enormous scandal. But because Trump is such vile piece of shit himself, Palandino’s penchant for porn and racism didn’t even warrant a mention in the Buzzfeed article.
Miss Bianca
@Trentrunner: are you kidding? Why would the TRUMP campaign fire THIS guy?
Anoniminous
Sounds like the typical GOP voter to me.
Kenneth Kohl
@Betty Cracker: Betty, I’ve been lucky enough (so I could see his shtick first-hand) to be at a fund raiser where Carl was “guest” speaker. He’s every bit the “disgusting racist and degenerate” in person as he is via media. Again, like Trump, Carl can’t help himself.. He is a PoS, no doubt about it.
Gindy51
@Miss Bianca: Sounds like Trump would rather adopt him than fire him.
hellslittlestangel
Paladino is what Trump would be without the money.
NorthLeft12
I am surprised that Mr. Horse Cock Carl was not given the VP slot. His talents are wasted as campaign co-chair for the Not One chance in a million state of New York. He would have made der Donald seem subtle and intelligent by comparison.
BTW, Trump is an ignorant and pathetic loser.
mistermix
@Roger Moore: You’re right but dredging up the Khan thing after it had kinda-sorta died down is pretty fucking dumb, even by Carl standards.
kindness
Granted it’s been almost 40 years since I lived in NY but for the life of me I don’t understand how anyone would choose to have Carl Paladino represent them. Might as well go out back and shoot both your feet (and then blame a black guy).
Eric U.
@mistermix: I think even Trump may realize he needs to drop the Khan thing. I suspect he will bring it back up when he forgets though
Citizen_X
Good thing these guys have thrown off the shackles of political correctness, huh?
mai naem mobile
I can imagine Trump hanging around these same people who are his state chairs and his economic advisors and using language you would have heard among the white business elite in the deep south during the 1950s.
Waldo
And what does this duck say when it talks to you, Mr. Paladino?
Baud
Remember this when Carl tell you he’s not a piece of shit.
Redshift
@mistermix: Yes, but not by Trump standards.
Amir Khalid
@mistermix:
They must think there is some way to win this spat with the Khans.
dmsilev
@Eric U.: During his stream-of-consciousness rally speeches, Trump has a habit of reviving old scandals and controversies, like arguments from the primary and stuff like that. It would not at all surprise me to see him complaining about the Khans in October.
MattF
And Trump thinks NY is in play? Head up ass so deeply that he has to open his mouth to blow his nose.
PigDog
I use Paladino as Exhibit A when explaining to my NY parents what Republicans are like everywhere south of them. They still think of themselves as Rockefeller Republicans – and they cover their ears and go LALALACAN’THEARYOU when I explain that there is no such thing any more and they have thrown their lot in with the racists by default.
Kay
It’s funny how frustrated people get. We just have to let it go. He lies constantly. The end.
Mike J
Bruce Rauner just vetoed automatic voter reg in IL.
Brachiator
Is this the stuff that Clint Eastwood is talking about when he says, “Get over it?”
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
I think they’re still stuck at the stage where they don’t quite get why talking about Teh Scaaaary Mooslim isn’t a winning argument. Some of them seem to have recognized that it isn’t helping, but others are still trying to see if it will work if they just say it a few more times but louder and slower so they can be sure people understand them.
Maxwel
Is it possible that they’ll keep this up (Rubbing my hands in glee)?
Baud
@Maxwel: Maybe. They have a base they need to keep interested.
FlipYrWhig
@MattF:
My theory is that Trump is telling people he thinks certain states are in play because that will justify why he’s spending time there–NY, CA, CT, etc.–when the truth is that he just doesn’t want to spend 3 months hauling his flabby ass across Flyover Country.
Shalimar
I prefer calling him “horse fucker.” We don’t know that he hasn’t, and it is simpler than trying to explain what he actually did. Let him deny it.
Bobby D
Carl better be careful, that’s good way to get his old cracker-ass whipped. I served, every male member of my family served, all of us during wartime. The vets in my circle would be more than happy to kick Carl’s fkin teeth down his throat for that kind of talk. And please don’t lecture me about violence, sometimes the only way to deal with a bully is to stomp their ass into the dirt and inflict so much pain they think twice before opening that gob again.
Bill in Section 147
Team Trump dancing on a grave.
I know that chicken is tired but, please proceed.
Uncle Cosmo
@Waldo:
1/ Carl Paladino walks into a bar with a duck under his arm. Bartender looks at the duck & sez, Where’dya get that pig? Paladino sez, That’s not a pig, it’s a duck! Bartender sez, I wasn’t talking to you.
2/ Carl Paladino walks into a bar with a toad on his head. Bartender looks at the toad & sez, Where’dya get that? Toad croaks, Would you believe it started as a wart on my ass?
(I’ll be here all week; tip the veal & try your waitress..:p)
BR
I just saw this:
I guess Trump went off the rails in Erie today? Anyone see it? I want details…
Matt McIrvin
@Kay: Harry Enten strikes me as a guy who really, really wants to be an even-handed centrist, but the Republicans keep disappointing him so badly.
Kay
@Matt McIrvin:
It’s getting weird, though, because Trump himself isn’t bragging as much. He’s basically begging the people at the Erie,PA rally to vote for him. They’re at his rally. He thinks they’re on the fence?
Uncle Cosmo
@Kay: You do realize that Enten is the German plural form of duck? Which, it appears, is where we came in…
FlipYrWhig
@Kay: Don’t you get the feeling that Trump thinks the only people who exist are the people he can physically see? I think he has a problem with object permanence.
Baud
@Uncle Cosmo: The plot thickens.
Baud
@FlipYrWhig: Maybe if we cover his eyes like they do with horses, he’ll calm down.
Jeffro
@Amir Khalid: It’s a bit of an odd thought, and perhaps it only applies to a candidate as loathsome as Trump (and the doubly loathsome Paladino)…but I almost wonder if we are moving past the time where the Big Lie strategy works anymore. Repetition not only isn’t helping these clowns…it’s hurting them.
gogol's wife
@BR:
Me too!
Hope the power/internet/cable doesn’t go out again this evening so I can find out.
slag
@BR: According to TPM, he called his supporters losers. Or just “not winners” maybe?
Baud
@Jeffro: Typically, the lies are said with more finesse.
Redshift
Paladino is one of the few Trump surrogates who had that genuine Trump attitude of “I’m absolutely certain there nothing wrong with the outrageous thing I said.” Most of the campaign reps I’ve seen on TV have that cult member vibe of “I will loudly insist that whatever The Leader has said is true, even if it makes no sense or contradicts what he said five minutes ago.”
Enhanced Voting Techinques
“If it acts like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it talks like a duck, it’s a duck!” declared Paladino.
Well by his own logic Paladino is a mobster. Italian last name, talks like a thug so must be a mobster. But then again, is animal bothering against the mob’s rules?
Bobby Thomson
@Roger Moore: this.
Hal
The number of pro Paladino signage in buffalo was in direct contrast to how terrible Paladino actually did in NY. But I have to remember how many properties he owns in the city. Now he sits on the buffalo school board, a seat he won reelection to in June by 100 votes against an 18 year old.
Gelfling 545
@Betty Cracker: Scandal? You want scandal? Here’s a scandal. Paladino was just re-elected to my city’s school board. His opponent ( who was 18 years old) nearly beat him, though. If the kid had been 21, old Carl would probably be toast. But I find few things more scandalous than Paladino having any say at all over the education of children.
Mnemosyne
@FlipYrWhig:
I had a boyfriend like that, lo these many years ago.
AnotherBruce
I think the real mystery here is this. Why do such vile, stupid people get this much attention?
Baud
@Mnemosyne: I assume he’s forgotten you by now.
Bitter Scribe
I can’t imagine why the voters of New York didn’t want this guy to be their governor.
Baud
@AnotherBruce: They vote.
Bobby Thomson
@Matt McIrvin: nailed it.
bluefish
It’s hilarious how these dudes & dudettes then turn around and blame the media when they themselves bring this sort of foolishness to light by their words, dog whistles, and lack of action. It wouldn’t be anything coming out of their own mouths that is creating problems now, is it? Thanks, Obama.
Some are soaking in the poison they spew, and the rest of us are opting to double bag the toxic rags and throw that mess into the trash heap. With a shudder and our own form of snarling. Bad Day at Black Rock. If someone gets hurt as a result of the now daily mob stoking, they’ll be among the first to offer prayers and praise emergency personnel Here’s to hoping that some out there are so sated with anger, stupidity, and prejudice that they can barely move in this heat.
The stuff about Mr. Khan is sure to keep the shrink wrapping of their cray cray nice and tight.
Gelfling 545
@Enhanced Voting Techinques: Don’t know anout the mob but Paladino claims to be Roman Catholic. I can tell you for sure it’s against their rules. Now I was raised RC and I see nothing of what I was taught to be the Catholic faith in his words or actions so, if we’re going to question someone’s religious affiliation…..
Anoniminous
@Gelfling 545:
The Catholic faith is endlessly adaptable.
singfoom
Paladino isn’t very good at duck-typing. What actions declare Obama a muslim? How does a muslim walk? How does a muslim talk? Muslims are supposed to avoid alcohol, right? That’s haram. Yet, 10 seconds of a google search for “Obama beer” return multiple pictures of him drinking a beer.
There, in 10 seconds I have found a way in which Obama does not act like a Muslim. One would suppose if Paladino was able to find his way out of his own ass that he could spend maybe even a couple minutes to find other examples of ways in which Obama is not a Muslim.
And even if he WERE a Muslim, who gives a fuck? These stupid fucking bigots.
Baud
This Reddit post might be of interest to some here.
ETA: Top comment is anti-vax.
singfoom
@Baud: I’ll take a look, but I’ll put money on the fact that that thread gets invaded by /r/the_donald MAGA crazypeople to the point it’s unreadable.
Brachiator
@Baud:
Loved this one:
Emma
@Brachiator: Say what? I. Can’t. Even. Let us hope it’s a troll. But these days, how can you tell?
Baud
@singfoom:
Sort by best or top comments. It’ll help.
Feebog
Pro tip for Donald and Carl; Barak Obama is not running for President. Maroons.
Baud
@Emma: Maybe it’s sarcasm.
debbie
@hellslittlestangel:
Exactly. There could be no better co-chair for Trump than Paladino. They’re sympatico compadres.
Driving home this afternoon, I heard a clip of Trump speaking somewhere today. He was berating the press for their reaction to his statement that Obama and Hillary were the founders of ISIS. First he mocked them for not understanding his remark was not sarcastic. Then, in the very next sentence, he said, “Well, it wasn’t that sarcastic.”
This guy just cannot stop himself. I’ve known an awful lot of horrible people, but never have I witnessed such a self-destructive human being.
Here’s the quote:
“When I said that Obama — and of course I’m being sarcastic. And they know that. Because after I said that, I said he’s the MVP,” Trump said.
“So I said, the founder of ISIS. Obviously I’m being sarcastic,” he said. Then, perplexingly, he immediately added, “Then, then — but not that sarcastic, to be honest with you. “
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-explains-calling-obama-founder-isis-sarcasm/story?id=41326238
Waldo
@FlipYrWhig:
I think you’ve just solved the mystery of his entire campaign.
? Martin
The Trump campaign strategy leaked a bit back and it wasn’t completely crazy. The idea was to go after traditional non-voters that they could reach, with the message being that if you feel voting is pointless because the parties are fucked up, vote for me. There are enough non-voters and people fed up with the system that in theory, it’s the kind of campaign that could work if you could actually put the right message out there from the right messenger with a sufficiently weak opponent (and admittedly, a lot of these voters are if nothing else tired of hearing about the Clintons). But non-voting latinos are a whole other population that they can’t reach.
Now, I don’t know if there was ever a piece of paper that showed even a theoretical chance of this working, but with only 57% of eligible voters turning out in 2012, but it would only have needed less than a 10% turnout of 2012 non-voters all going for Trump to win assuming Hillary got every Obama voter. That assumes that every Romney voter voted for Trump, that every Romney voter was still alive to vote for Trump or that Trump would win over 18-22 year olds at a comparable rate, that latinos wouldn’t be so incensed by the whole shitshow to turn out in higher number for Clinton, that these voters were uniformly distributed across the country etc. But in their fevered mind, I think they saw a path, and I can see evidence of the executing on one single element of that path. GOTV likely wouldn’t work on people that it didn’t work on in 2012, and the blue-collar-economically-struggling-white-guy-that-is-pissed-about-messicans-and-ISIS-beheading-his-children-and-negros-assualting-his-wife-with-Skittles vote is indeed depressed and appears to be reachable, however it’s much tinier than they seem to realize.
But Trump is stacked with people who believe deeply in this strategy. It was Paladinos strategy when he ran before. As pissed off white guys that routinely circle jerk with other pissed off white guys, I’m sure the universe of pissed off white guys seems immeasurably large to them.
Roger Moore
@Jeffro:
I think the Big Lie strategy still works, but Trump is doing it wrong. One of the points behind the Big Lie is that you have to keep saying it again and again for it to really stick. If you quickly back down or stop talking about it, especially when there’s pushback, people will either forget or accept that it’s been debunked. Only by repeating it often and in the face of attempts to debunk it can you really convince people. You can’t try to do the Big Lie and the Gish Gallop simultaneously.
hovercraft
The only way Hillary can win PA is if she cheats, he needs sheriffs and the police to keep a careful watch in “certain sections” of the state. Like Philly. Trump in Altoona PA.
Anoniminous
@? Martin:
Yes it is. Actually.
The defining factor among the People-Who-Don’t-Vote demographic is they don’t vote. If they haven’t voted in the past 5 elections they almost certainly won’t vote in this election unless special and persistent GOTV time, money, and effort goes into getting them to vote but we know His Highness, Donald the First, isn’t spending a dime on GOTV.
Thus The Trumpitude is going after the wrong demographic in the wrong way.
Hungry Joe
Obama walks like a SECRET duck. It’s subtle, but if you look hard enough, and squint a little, you can see it.
More evidence: “Disco Duck” was on his summer playlist. Not the one we saw — his SECRET summer playlist.
Trav
@Bobby D: fuckin’ too right, mate
Uncle Cosmo
@FlipYrWhig:
FTFY.
NoraLenderbee
@Shalimar:
Un-indicted horse-fucker, thank you very much.
Villago Delenda Est
Horse Cock Carl is just being a loyal surrogate of the short fingered vulgarian.
He’s also unfit to lick Khizr Khan’s shoes.
Peale
@hovercraft: he can take his new found oathkeeper sovereign citizen sherrif shit and shove it
Jeffro
@Roger Moore:
I guess…or maybe the Big Lie has to in some way be in touch with reality? Maybe things are going too well for most folks that they can’t be motivated by a Big Lie?
Ah well, too much to ponder on a Friday night. Time to grab a book!
r€nato
just as I figured, a quick check of Carl’s Wikipedia bio shows he never served in the military. Say, don’t conservatives have some kind of special animus against those who spit on veterans? Wonder what they will say about a guy who spits on the parents of a man who died serving his country?
Also… he has a teenaged daughter who was conceived in an adulterous affair. Classy guy.
NorthLeft12
@Roger Moore: Yes, it is just like cutting taxes for the rich. If the economy does not improve it just means you have not cut taxes enough.
These guys are just not capable of admitting they are wrong. That would show weakness, so they just double down.
BTW, Trump is an ignorant and pathetic loser.
NorthLeft12
@BR:
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone said this in the last year or so. I would be richer than Trump.
The Lodger
@Baud: Did Carl Paladino tell you about that technique?
YellowDog
I heard the full interview. McShane challenged Paladino, politely, at every turn, but the claim that the President is a Muslim was too much. McShane said “this is crazy” and ended the interview. McShane may work for Fox Business News, but, on Imus, he has repeatedly shown that he is not a conservative hack.
SFAW
@Baud:
“He knows all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire. ”
Of course, his name is Donnie, not Doug.
Glennis
Let’s hope Trump’s spectacular crash and burn will take down all his surrogates with him. Palladino isn’t fit to talk into a microphone.
sherparick
@mistermix: Its a 3fer! Not only resurrecting the whole Khan kerfuffle, but reminding everyone that Trump is a birther, and that he believes Obama is a “Muslim” Manchurian Candidate. There is a reason we call them wingnuts.