Hillary’s death list grows, as the thought of her as President probably killed the old witch.
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Hillary’s death list grows, as the thought of her as President probably killed the old witch.
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JPL
Scalia is still dead also, too.
Betty Bowers tweet expresses my sentiment.
Unabogie
Hey 2016, you’ve started to redeem yourself! Not there yet, but every journey starts with a step.
BubbaDave
@JPL: Maybe they’re getting it on in the afterlife. Sounds right — he would be Hell for her and vice versa. With the Obama inaugurations on a loop until they can be alternated with the Hillary inauguration.
JPL
We could have 300 comments that said nothing but good.
CaseyL
Ding dong, and all that.
In keeping with the nil nisi bonum and all that: Phyllis Schlafly has made me very happy today.
hovercraft
She left the world a better place, by leaving it.
ellie
What a hateful witch she was.
JPL
@hovercraft: She was personally responsible for harming the health care women received.
It’s good she finally died.
The Sheriff's A Ni-
I am sorry for her family’s loss.
mapaghimagisk
Thanks, Obama.
Aussiesmurf
As I tweeted, someone will need to keep Ann Coulter away from sharp objects for a few days.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
Xin loi.
SWMBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7_yixyy9ts
redshirt
Can someone give me some bullet points why she was so terrible?
Poopyman
Phyllis Schlafly was a saint!
… In a universe where Spock wore a goatee.
Villago Delenda Est
@JPL: What both you and Betty said.
@Aussiesmurf: No, please do not. Encourage her, this woman whose greatest regret is she was born decades too late to be the Bitch of Buchenwald.
Soonergrunt
The only people who will miss her are her family and assholes.
JPL
@The Sheriff’s A Ni-: I wonder how her son who is gay feels, since she never recognized his sexual identity. She was a hateful, spiteful woman who harmed females and lgbt with her views. So it’s good that she finally can meet Scalia.
Mustang Bobby
I don’t believe in the whateverafter, but if there is one, I hope she’s greeted by Matthew Shepard and Divine.
redshirt
@Soonergrunt: Hey Sooner!
JanieM
@redshirt: Well, you could google her name and look at the quotes that come up in the quick glance side bar, including these:
Or you could google some more and find out about what a vicious, sanctimonious homophobe she was. Good riddance.
Kathleen
@Aussiesmurf: Maybe Obama can be persuaded to issue a stern but concerned personal warning to Ann.
Major Major Major Major
Good. Fuck her.
nutella
She lasted long enough to be yelling about bathrooms in 2016, just like she yelled about them in the 1970s.
Anti-feminism, transphobia: It’s all hate and she was full up with hate.
Truegster
I’m hoping Richard Viguerie’s number is coming up next. If you have an ideological split while the old generals die off, the party is closer to dying off.
?BillinGlendaleCA
John, I’m sure this makes up for the “American Horror Story” in the last post.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Soonergrunt: I believe there a large intersection between those 2 sets.
Bex
@hovercraft: I hope she didn’t vote early.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: She’s the reason we don’t have an Equal Rights Amendment. Just to start ya off.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Not necessarily. Being an asshole is a choice, being in somebody’s family is not.
Aussiesmurf
@Kathleen: Ha! Well played.
JPL
@Bex: That would be illegal. Votes for those alive on Nov. 8th can legally be counted. iokiyr, though
?BillinGlendaleCA
@CaseyL: Ya beat me to it. This news makes today as almost as good as when I heard that Fat Tony was dead.
aimai
She was a terrible person–truly evil and she caused a lot of pain to a lot of women. But I do feel sorry for her family and as a person whose own parents are getting up there in years I feel sad when I see those numbers scroll by. 92? It seems old until you get closer to it. My thoughts are with her family, honestly.
dp
Two quotes resurrected for Scalia’s death come to mind:
“I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.” – Clarence Darrow
“I didn’t attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.” – Mark Twain
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: True, I was citing this particular case. Though being raised by assholes increases one’s likelihood of being an asshole.
Aussiesmurf
@?BillinGlendaleCA: For a split second I thought you meant James Gandolfini, and the rage started to bubble. Then I realised you were referencing Scalia and the world again became a happier place.
geg6
Oh joy! First Scalia, now this old fucking bat. Now if only Cheney’s bionics would have a major malfunction. Who am I missing?
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Ah, I didn’t know her family was a known quantity. Carry on.
redshirt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: She was that powerful?
Hillary Rettig
also a complete hypocrite who told women to stay home and be good housewives while she was out having a good career for herself
divF
In honor of the occasion, here is Molly Ivins on Phyllis:
ETA: This was during the 1988 Republican National Convention.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: She was able to lobby just enough state legislatures to kill off the ERA. So yes.
Central Planning
@Bex: Any chance you’re a Bex from Rochester, NY?
geg6
@redshirt:
For starters, go and read Rick Perlstein’s Republican trilogy. That will give you a start at understanding that evil old witch’s centrality in creating the GOP as it stands today. She was one of vanguard.
Ken
I remember one of her editorial columns, after the Voyager probes had flown by Saturn and imaged the braided rings. Braiding, she solemnly stated, meant a Braider. Therefore God.
(God turned out to be a couple of small moons orbiting just outside the rings. I’m sure she never posted a correction. I’m also about 80% sure that Conservapedia – one of her sons’ projects – cites the braided rings as evidence of God, but I haven’t checked because reading Conservapedia kills brain cells.)
redshirt
@geg6: I’ve read Nixonland; what are the other two?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@geg6: Yup, I just finished the first one(I read them in reverse order). An excellent series. If you want to understand how we got to where we are, you must read the Perlstein trilogy.
p.a.
I second the motion.
May she be on the spit next to nino.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: “The Invisible Bridge”(Reagan) and “Before The Storm”(Goldwater).
geg6
@redshirt:
Yes. Read Perlstein. She was one of the architects of the wingnut takeover of the GOP, going back to the 50s. People don’t understand that it wasn’t just hating abortion and LGBTQ. She was a true believer. If not a Birchite, as close as you can get. She was instrumental in the Goldwater run.
PaulWartenberg2016
Can’t say anything nice, should say nothing at all.
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this should be the quietest BJ comments in human history.
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Mart
Gonna have me a Schlafly beer to celebrate. Her cousin beat her lawsuit against using the family name on his St. Louis based micro-brew. She claimed having her name on a beer would tarnish her image.
hovercraft
@redshirt:Here is part of her wiki page.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@PaulWartenberg2016: I don’t believe this crowd subscribes to that principle. I know I don’t, at least in politics.
Bex
@Central Planning: Nope. My family’s from Chicago.
PaulWartenberg2016
@JPL:
good.
PaulWartenberg2016
@Mart:
Who in their right mind would drink beer named after HER?
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Had to be said.
Central Planning
@Bex: Oh well. You never know if friends show up here :)
Sarah, Proud and Tall
Good riddance, you nasty old cow.
redshirt
@efgoldman: 2012.
I just find the dynamic interesting that BJ (and many others, it’s not specific to BJ) will cheer on a person’s death, but if a cat or dog dies, it’s sympathy and compassion.
People are worth less emotionally then pets. It’s weird.
hovercraft
@JPL:
We have lost many, too many wonderful people this year, 2016 sucks.
But if has also removed two people who have done great harm to the lives of millions. Does it balance out? No, 2016 still sucks, but there have been tiny glimmers of hope for humanity.
scav
@efgoldman: The fluttering eyelashes and protestations of little ole ignorant me are rather classic bait any more.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
There really isn’t anything good you can say about somebody like that. It’s an awful thing to say that society is better off when somebody is dead, but there are people it’s true to say it about. She is one of them.
Ruckus
@geg6:
She is one of the reasons I say that current conservative issues go back way before Reagan.
hovercraft
@Bex:
No state has begun voting yet, and if they had I would contact the Sec. of State to demand that her vote not be counted, republicans are always bitching about dead people voting.
Mike in NC
Oh happy day!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: They go back to Robert Taft.
Ruckus
@Mart:
She claimed having her name on a beer would tarnish her image.
More like tarnish the beer. Does it taste like rancid, acidic piss? That’s how you know if she was actually involved.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@hovercraft:
Though only in blue states(Chicago being the best example).
Central Planning
@redshirt: Perhaps it’s because some people can cause grief and pain for thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of people. I’m not aware of anyone’s pet doing that.
raven
@redshirt: Bullshit, she was a fucking scumbag.
Felonius Monk
@Soonergrunt:
From what I understand these two groups are not mutually exclusive.
hovercraft
@geg6:
Rumy, Clarence Thomas, Kissinger. Give me a few minutes and I’m sure I’ll think of a few more. Oh another one Pat Robertson.
frosty
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
I started Nixonland when we had a book thing here on it a couple of years ago. Couldn’t finish it — I lived through it and it was too awful to relive. Good book though.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
For some reason, this story makes me happy, and not only because it made her unhappy.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@redshirt:
Phyllis Schlafly was a mean, nasty, cruel and spiteful woman who went out of her way to make life worse for millions of people, particularly women, LGBTQs and PLWHAs. She was worth less emotionally than the stuff I scraped out from under my toenail this morning.
Every now and then over the next decade I will remember that she is dead and it will make me smile.
CaseyL
“The atomic bomb is a beautiful gift from God” is another Schlaflyism.
What a horrible, horrible person. Can’t think of a single redeeming feature.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Yes, and that’s way before Reagan, as we both know.
eemom
Yay.
That is all.
JPL
Gotta say the old coot proved billy joel’s song right.. link Our country would have been better, if she died earlier.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@Mart: She was working on an appeal, the last I heard.
My sister ran the St Charles County Library in the early 1970s and has no fond memories of Mrs. Schafly, who was trying to police St Charles into a place she could approve of. Among her demands was that they drop the subscription to the New York Times microfilm & subscribe to the John Birch Society’s rag instead.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: For bad people, yes, that’s often the case. For example, today my cat got hair on the sheets. He did not, intentionally or not we’ll never know, actively oppose women’s rights. He wins.
You’re usually like this in the evenings. Is it evening yet?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@hovercraft: this started me thinking about a rightwing death watch, and wondering if Poppy snuffs it before Election Day, will they let Trump come to the funeral
?BillinGlendaleCA
@frosty: I lived through Nixon’s Presidency as well, but the 3 books together really describe how the conservative movement started and how Trump is the logical conclusion.
germy
(Ambrose Bierce, Devil’s Dictionary)
debbie
@Hillary Rettig:
No one else remembers her saying part of being a good housewife was wrapping yourself in Saran Wrap and greeting your husband at the door at the end of the day?
Felonius Monk
@redshirt: The unfortunate and really tragic thing about Schlafly’s death is that it didn’t happen 50 or 60 years ago.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Bullshit. This was a horrible person. When someone decent, a commenter’s loved one or friend passes, there is a shitload of sympathy and commiseration around here. When Bowie and Prince died, there was a lot of sadness and sharing of good memories.
germy
from rightwing watch:
JanieM
@efgoldman: The Maine woods have nothing to do with it.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@efgoldman: The beer’s not bad at all. She hated it, and wasn’t on speaking terms with that branch of her husband’s family. Besides making beer, they failed to respect her moral wonderful news, and sided against in some other family fights.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
There are somethings in life that do not need to be experienced to know better. Taking the brown acid, light beer, beer that someone just has to name after one of the worse people in the last century, beer brewed in rail car sized lots, conservatives…….
Teddy's Person
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
I’d add to your succinct description that she enjoyed a very lucrative career by making life much, much harder for other people.
germy
@debbie: She was an advocate for women staying in the home, keeping their opinions to themselves, and devoting their lives to serving their husbands. She spent her life building a career and traveling the country, sharing her opinions.
frosty
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I may have to take a deep breath, fortify myself, and try the trilogy. Maybe the first one wouldn’t be so bad. I don’t know about the Reagan one though. I was in California in the 70s when he was governor and it was crystal clear what he was all about.
Michael Bersin
My only regret is that Phyllis Schlafly didn’t live to see a woman inaugurated as President of the United States.
germy
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Where do they go from here?
Ruckus
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
I had a mean old bastard of a dog. He would bite the hand that fed him if you got it in his way. He was a far better companion and far less mean than that old bat.
Bex
@?BillinGlendaleCA: We vote early and often.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@debbie: That was Marabel Morgan. Mrs Schafly would never have dreamed of doing such a vulgar thing. No doubt to her husband’s relief.
eemom
@geg6: @hovercraft:
Zacktly. I’d gladly take all of those and others for my list to Santa this year.
I delight in the death of evil people whose lives are spent causing suffering and misery to others and I have no apology — NONE — to make for it. EVER.
@redshirt:
You appear to be suggesting that the death of a human — no matter how evil — is always to be lamented more than the death of an innocent animal. With due respect, I find that mindset to be absolutely fucked.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@frosty: I had no memory of the Goldwater stuff, Nixon and Reagan I remember that time. I grew up in CA in the 60’s and 70’s.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@germy: They will only get more extreme.
JanieM
@efgoldman: I know it amazes some people, but we do in fact have electricity and the internet in the Maine woods. We’ve had seven or eight statewide votes in Maine since 1995 on gay rights and same-sex marriage. Anyone who could isolate themselves to that extreme could do it anywhere.
Patricia Kayden
@JPL: So is Breitbart.
Ruckus
@efgoldman:
And those were her good qualities.
I wasn’t really worried about it but I see that we are 100% in agreement.
Ryan
Ding dong, the witch is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
lollipopguild
@germy: Very funny that you should say that-she never followed her own advice. Sad!
Hal
JPL
@Michael Bersin: That might be what caused her to finally say, I want to meet Scalia in hell. She lost her will of living. Sad, but good.
Quinerly
@efgoldman:
Actually, the beer is quite good. Tom Schlafly is a great guy…Democrat, excellent atty. He’s essentially responsible for the microbrew business in St. Louis. Does much to help smaller breweries to get started and grow. Real big on promotions and helping restaurants. He is her nephew by marriage. Excellent product, now with a bottling plant separate from the actual brewery. I’m proud to call him a friend. Fine guy.
redshirt
@JanieM: What have I said JanieM? Am I defending Schafly? Am I espousing her viewpoints?
Jeez some of you are so quick to jump to conclusions.
I merely observed that people here and elsewhere are gleeful over some people’s deaths and yet act like a pet is the most important thing in the world. For instance, your average action movie will show dozens of people dying, and yet if an animal is harmed, it’s usually a major plot point. I’m just pointing out it’s a strange dynamic. It’s as if people’s lives matter much, much less then a pet’s.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
good twitter stream from Kevin Kruse (whose book on Jesusification of America since Eisenhower is on my to-read list):
Corner Stone
@efgoldman:
Obviously no shortage of bridges up there.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@redshirt: Fuck her. She was trash.
MisterForkbeard
@eemom: I’m sad for Schlafly’s friends and family, honestly. Been through enough family deaths to feel that much sympathy.
But I’ll be damned if her passing isn’t an excellent thing for the rest of the country. She was a mean-spirited old bag, hypocritical in her politics, and went out of her way to deny other women the same opportunities and wealth that she enjoyed.
Blueskies
@The Sheriff’s A Ni-: Shit, are you kidding me? Her brewery-founding nephew has GOT to be happy she’s gone. She was shit to the bitter end, and I take pleasure knowing that she died losing that nearly-last battle with a brewer of good beer.
MomSense
My mom just cheered when I told her.
Ruckus
@redshirt:
Her life did. And it was because of what she believed and did. She didn’t respect a whole lot of people on this planet, there is no reason to respect her for that. Absolutely none.
redshirt
@efgoldman: Somebody would. And someone is mourning Schaffly right now.
I just don’t get the unrestrained glee. The cheering. It’s ghoulish.
Central Planning
@redshirt: I’m pretty sure people would be just as happy if she decided to become a hermit and never interact with society ever again.
Wally Ballou
@redshirt: Not people in general. Just assholes.
Your concern is duly noted, however.
JanieM
@redshirt: efgoldman implied that your apparent (feigned?) unfamiliarity with Schlafly might be because you live in Maine. Given the # of times the entire state has been asked to vote on my status as a first class citizen, and Schlafly’s role over the decades in trying to prevent me from attaining that status, I think I’m on pretty solid ground in saying that if you’ve been paying so little attention to the relevant issues that you (again, apparently) know nothing about her, you could have done that anywhere. I’m not passing judgment on your lack of knowledge one way or another, I just don’t think it’s Maine’s fault.
Well okay, I’m not going to pass judgment on whether you know anything about Schlafly, but I might be a little more than bemused by the fact that you seem not to have heard of search engines. ;-)
JPL
@redshirt: She destroyed people. It’s not ghoulish, but an expression that it’s about time. We all recognize that someone will take her place.
redshirt
@Ruckus: She never killed anyone (that I know of). Never sent someone to their death (that I know of). She engaged in politics. That’s it. If you don’t like what she did, work to undo it.
Suzanne
Schafly is dead and I am trying to be the bigger-hearted person.
Failing.
I’m sure this indicates that I am a shitty person, but I can live with that.
amk
she lived long enough to cause permanent damage to american political psyche and at zero cost to herself.
Keith G
As a coordinator of a Gay student organization in the late 70s, I spent a lot of time dealing with the hate spread by Phyllis Schlafly – and I got off easy compared to others. I wonder how many kids were emotionally battered by family and friends who were just following the lead of that abominable person. Her death now brings me no joy.
Now if she had been fatally struck in the head by a 1 lb jar of Lube in the mid 1970’s, then that would have made me smile.
ThresherK
@JPL: Wow, I forgot about her son somewhere along the line.
Schlafly didn’t even clear the low bar of “old-school right-winger’s relative comes out of closet, wingnut disovers gays and lesbians deserve dignity”.
redshirt
@JanieM: Yes, he was insulting me. I’m well aware of Schlafly, but honestly don’t get the death cheers we’re seeing here. Dislike a person’s politics, sure, but to cheer on their death? I can’t do it, no matter how bad.
I assume most of us here are anti-death penalty for similar reasons?
raven
@redshirt: Quit digging.
Blueskies
@Ruckus: I’ve had many of their offerings — all excellent. The nephew gave Phyllis one of her last losses in court. BTW, he got his start essentially thumbing his nose at Budweiser. He worked there, got tired of the awfulness of their product and outlook, and struck out on his own. His openly-stated goal is to kick A-B’s ass. He’s not kidding, but I don’t think A-B is sweating too much yet.
liberal
@redshirt: If your criterion for evil is damage the person wrought directly with her own hands, you’re an idiot.
MisterForkbeard
@redshirt: She worked to deny people a lot of basic rights, including the ERA and all it stood for.
She may not have killed anyone directly, but she deliberately and with forethought made a bunch of people in this country miserable. The fact that she did so in service to an ideal (stay-at-home housewife) that she didn’t even follow herself is particularly awful.
Politics have a real effect on people’s lives, and her contribution was entirely negative. I’m glad she’s not here to make things worse for the rest of us, and will work hard to undo everything she accomplished. That said, it’s awful for her family. But that doesn’t mean the rest of the country can’t be glad she’s no longer around to poison the well.
germy
And here’s a video of Anita Bryant getting a pie in the face.
Doug R
@redshirt: So she bears no responsibility for spreading and enabling hate?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@amk: Actually, she enriched herself.
opiejeanne
@redshirt: Because of her actions, using politics as her instrument, she undoubtedly did condemn any number of women to death. That much is clear.
Epicurus
I will enjoy reading her obituary. Who’s next? Breitbart is already gone…and Cheney lives! The good die young; the bastards live forever. Well, almost.
opiejeanne
@Epicurus: I have a theory that really mean people live longer, so there is hope for me.
nutella
@JanieM:
This is a commenter who likes JAQing off.
Citizen_X
@redshirt:
Sorry, but that’s pretty much the only way our species advances: one funeral at a time.
Trentrunner
@redshirt: We’ve all noted your concern.
Now, if you don’t care to join in this raucous throng of grave-dancing, you can just have a seat rightch over theyah…
Paul Gottlieb
I guess Tim LaHaye, Nino Scalia, and August Pinochet have a fourth for bridge in hell now
Corner Stone
Same people who can’t resist RtR.
JanieM
@redshirt:
Then why pretend you’re not?
Rhetorical question; I’ll know better than to respond to a leading question next time.
Omnes Omnibus
@opiejeanne: I would also suggest that the atmosphere of hate that she helped to foster led to the deaths of any number of gay men in the ’70s and ’80s.
scav
Telling the truth about the actions of a person and not mandating rote hand-on-heart hagiographies merely because of the sudden lack of bodily functions of same person seems utterly reasonable. Insisting on pious fraud seems rather to be enabling the dead persons political actions and positions. I’ll take the knee on this one. Good to see that face in the rear view mirror and diminishing in size.
Citizen Alan
@redshirt:
Dogs and cats aren’t intentionally evil.
Tom Q
When C. Everett Koop, as Surgeon General, was trying to ameliorate the AIDS epidemic by encouraging massive condom use, Schafly told him “I’d rather thousands of young people die than learn about condoms”. Koop, not exactly a lefty, was astounded she seemed to believe people would otherwise not know condoms existed. He said something along the lines of “That woman has no acquaintance with reality”.
Feebog
Did someone put a stake thorough her heart? You know, just to make sure?
Mike E
That reminds me, I need another jug of amaretto (my Nino stash) so I can toast that Schlafly!
scav
Jaysus. srv’s nose just exploded through my screen.
redshirt
@JanieM: For the purpose of the discussion that has resulted.
You’re all cheering a political death. Do you think Republicans are similarly cheering? Would you feel disgusted when they cheer on a liberal’s death – which they will of course. And of course everyone here will be outraged by it.
Suzanne
@redshirt:
You’re a better person than me. I don’t support the death penalty, but I’m certainly not unhappy she’s gone. I have limited amounts of outrage and sympathy. Schafly gets no sympathy.
germy
@Citizen Alan:
Most of the time
redshirt
@Citizen Alan: Neither was Schlafly.
JPL
@redshirt: Name a democrat who has done so much harm, and then we can have a discussion.
redshirt
@Suzanne: I’m not asking for sympathy. It’s the cheering that gets me. Hate the person, hate their politics, their actions, their entire person, but remember it’s a person, like you, like me.
I mean, isn’t that the reason the death penalty is popular among many? Who the hell would defend the rights of a murderer and rapist?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: She was.
Omnes Omnibus
@JPL: Andrew Jackson.
redshirt
@JPL: George Wallace?
eemom
@redshirt:
You’re either trolling, or you’ve never lost a beloved animal (“pet”).
@efgoldman:
I might not cry, but I’d still be sad, because it wasn’t the dog’s fault that it got rabies, and it didn’t deserve to die.
Here’s where I am: I love animals, especially dogs. I also believe that all animals are innocent. The mindset of redshirt, and anyone else who believes that human lives are always to be valued above animal lives is alien to me.
When you’re talking about a human who spent their life doing harm to others, and insisting that some kind of respect is owed to them in death just because they’re dead, you really fucking lose me.
As for “families and friends,” I also miss the point of the pointless gesture of saying how sorry we are for their loss on a blog that they’ll never read. I’m not calling Schafly’s relatives to gloat over her death, any more than I did Scalia’s. But they’ve got plenty of people extending sympathy to them IRL; they don’t need mine.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: No one here was calling for her death. No one here made it happen. False equivalence.
raven
@redshirt: Is that you Tommy?
Cat48
I worked in a govt office in Alton, Il, and every 4 yrs the Mgr invited her to come & speak to us, not political, of course! Cough, Cough
It was scary being in the same room with someone you dislike & strongly disagree with.
I’ve spent the day looking for kitties up for adoption, maybe next year.
WaterGirl
@germy: As much as I hated her, I did feel bad when she got MS. (Unless I am confusing her with someone else, which I suppose is possible.)
edit: ugh! Anita, let’s pray. She was so self-righteous!
Trentrunner
@Omnes Omnibus: …as far as you know. :)
raven
Hey, I’m getting this weird vibration in my left testicle. I got them once in a while before the hernia surgery but this seems more persistent. It doesn’t really hurt, it just a kind of buzzing. Thoughts?
redshirt
@eemom: I’m not putting any life above another. All life is precious. Every last bit of it. To cheer for anything’s death is wrong.
Omnes Omnibus
@Trentrunner: Fair enough.
@raven:
No.
redshirt
@raven: Fuck Tommy!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Are you sitting on a vibrator?
redshirt
@raven: Blood flow issue? Move around, shake it out.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@redshirt:
She was at the forefront of a campaign to prevent AIDS education and AIDS research funding that directly resulted in the deaths of thousands of gay men and the (preventable) infection of thousands more. The callousness and cruelty of Schafly and people just like her stigmatised people with HIV and AIDS and gave the Reagan government cover to ignore the AIDS crisis for years because it was happening to “those people”. Compare the rates of infection and death from HIV in America with countries which actually gave a shit and implemented education and funding early (like Australia) and you will see exactly what she did to make the world a crueller place.
There will be many drinks raised in honour of her death in gay bars all over America tonight.
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re right. I should have included them. She was hateful to all and sundry. The notion that she is not responsible in some measure for the deaths of other is ridiculous considering what she was peddling.
Joel
I’ll leave it to Powers Boothe, here.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, I thought it was more interesting that what was being discussed. . .to me anyway. Actually watching Ole Miss and FSU is fun!
raven
@redshirt: Have been.
Suzanne
@redshirt: She’s a person and I think her loved ones are probably sad and I certainly wouldn’t cheer her death to their faces, but her death improves my world. So I cheer, in a place where none of her loved ones are likely to read it. Perhaps I’m ghoulish.
opiejeanne
@srv: Aw, what did Rosie ever do to you?
redshirt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Really, you think that? Intentionally evil? Like “How can I wreck people’s lives today” kind of evil? MWAHAHA evil?
I’m not inclined to think anyone is evil, except maybe for serial killers and other psychopaths, but even then, they usually have a history of being massively abused themselves.
eemom
@redshirt:
uh, no, actually I won’t give a shit, because their “cheering” such a death means nothing to me, nor to anyone or anything else that matters to me.
Closest you can get to outrage from me on that score is the Westboro church assholes — and fortunately there have been many good people stepping up to protect grieving families from the physical presence of their insane hatred.
redshirt
@efgoldman: Then every Republican is actually evil and we’re in the End Times, I guess. God bless.
Aussiesmurf
@germy: Away, hopefully.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt:
opiejeanne
@raven: No, that’s not Tommy.
redshirt
@Suzanne: You’re cheering the death of a 92 year old woman. Congrats.
lollipopguild
@Feebog: You win this thread.
eemom
@redshirt:
uh….bullshit? You’ve specifically pissed on us all, several times, for lamenting the deaths of animals.
redshirt
@eemom: Not at all, just using it as a comparison. It’s heartbreaking to lose a pet, especially a long lived one.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@redshirt: The community is very supportive when a loved one passes whether human or animal. Also, those who have made a positive difference in the world. Schafly was neither of those things, and it wasn’t even remotely close.
opiejeanne
@redshirt: Evil can also be banal, not caring who you hurt in order to make your political gains. She was somewhere between what you describe and banality on the evil scale, but evil she was. Not caring that you’re hurting people just because you think you’re right so they are just collateral damage is pretty darned evil.
Suzanne
@redshirt: A 92-year-old woman who was about as horrible as they come, short of fucking Pol Pot. If she wanted to be mourned, she could have not been an asshole.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Not cheering. But sure as hell not lamenting. I am going to go with a quiet feeling of “it’s about time.”
Mike E
@redshirt: hey, fuck that witch!
adding, Pabst Blue Ribbon!
redshirt
@opiejeanne: Fair enough, but you just described the entire Republican party. Do they think they’re evil? No. Are they evil?
Patricia Kayden
@Sarah, Proud and Tall: Very well said. There is nothing positive to say about such an odious being.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s what I’m getting at. That seems to be a perfectly normal response. I think the Internet brings out the “Cheering someone’s death” brigade because it’s easy and anonymous.
Betty Cracker
Schlafly was a vile hypocrite who worked tirelessly to immiserate millions of strangers. Good riddance indeed.
Omnes Omnibus
@Patricia Kayden:
I disagree. You can now say she is no longer with us.
redshirt
@Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): I know you know that more than most. I’m not saying anyone should be memorializing Schlafly or praising her. But she was a person, just like all of us. I think we need to be more kind with each other, regardless of political views.
germy
@WaterGirl:
? Are you thinking of Annette Funicello?
Anita Bryant is in good health, as far as I know.
germy
@Betty Cracker: And she talked and wrote like a white supremacist.
Ruckus
@redshirt:
It wasn’t just politics. She was an asshole who wanted to make life miserable for millions of people. She valued their lives far less than we are valuing hers. And she worked to make her twisted view of the world the law of the land. That she’s a political opponent is not the issue. That she was part of the concept that people didn’t have any value because they were women or gay or….. and she worked to make that idea spread, that’s the issue.
Conservatism for the last 100 yrs has been about making sure that more than half the citizens of this country are not considered even human. That’s not politics, that’s assholeishness to a highly elevated degree and she has been a major component of that. It’s not politics to go against the basic principles that it was founded on, a new idea, that we are all equal under the law. That actually is being a traitor to the country and she was one of the major people to lend that view a voice. She was a leader of the conservative revolution to eradicate the principles of this nation.
WaterGirl
@germy: Yes, I am, thank you for catching that!
Mike E
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m going with, 2016: Both Sides!
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Oh bullshit. I have a small list of people whose deaths can be seen as something to be celebrated. Thatcher was one. Scalia. Cheney. Schlafly. A few others. Tramp the Dirt Down.
WaterGirl
@Mike E: What about Pabst Blue Ribbon?
redshirt
@Ruckus: This country was founded by slaveholders. We’ve been hypocrites since day one.
hovercraft
@srv:
The democrats you are naming are people that very few of us would mourn if they died today. As a black woman there are very few pre civil rights era democrats whose graves I would not dance on. Fortunately unlike republicans who have to cite Lincoln as their champion for black people, we democrats can look to numerous contemporary examples. So I’ll take our side versus theirs with just Lincoln and Jack Kemp.
opiejeanne
@redshirt: No, I described the ones who act that way; don’t be silly. Obviously not all Republicans are that way but many of their leaders are.
JPL
@srv: Wow.. You have to go back a long ways. I would like to think that we as a group would have celebrated that.
opiejeanne
@Ruckus: amen to all you said, and I will add that she used politics to achieve those evils.
trollhattan
@raven:
Naw man, shiny new shovel and all. Let him dig, there’s gold in them thar latrines.
JPL
@Suzanne: I love this comment. Thanks.
redshirt
@opiejeanne: I only meant it in the sense that I assume your average Republican thinks they are good and supporting good and trying to do good, not some mustache twirling villain who revels in evil. “Intentionally evil” was the charge and I have had a hard time believing anyone is such.
Doug R
@redshirt: Pretty much.
Patricia Kayden
@Truegster: Seeing the first Black Pres turn over the White House to the first woman Pres may kill him. Let him live a bit longer.
Doug R
@redshirt: Oh, get over yourself.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
Yes intentionally evil. When you advocate that people with AIDS should be allowed to die you ARE EVIL. When you advocate that a Supreme Court Justice should be impeached because the voted to strike down the DEATH PENALTY for CHILDREN you are EVIL.
geg6
@eemom:
Yes, me too. You should always cheer a little less evil in the world. And animals, especially dogs (and Tunch), are worth a thousand humans each.
Elizabelle
I hope Prince personally greets her. In buttless trousers and purple frills.
Silly me. They are not bound for the same place. At all.
Joe Miller
@Aussiesmurf: If necessary, I will personally send razor blades and knives to Coulter.
amk
Another tbogg unit? Make it so, redshirt.
Mobile
@efgoldman: I cried when ol’ Yellow was put down.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@amk: we could talk about Bernie!?
Mike E
@JPL: hey, fuck those dead guys!
Gin & Tonic
@amk: Only if people (who should know better) feed the troll.
redshirt
@amk: Lacking a Bernie angle, this thread will never make it.
Coin operated
@redshirt:
Fuck off. I cannot believe that anyone who regularly comments on this blog would pull that shit out of their hindquarters.
Ms. Shafly deserved to die in a fire with the rest of the female side of our species roasting marshmallows over the embers of her carcass. How you could even remotely compare the death of this vicious bitch with that of pets is something that should earn you a lifetime ban.
I rarely let this sort of rage off the chain, but you deserve it.
Corner Stone
@Mobile:
I also wiped away a tear or two when Cole could not find his lost mustard.
Betty Cracker
I have a very short list of folks whose deaths would cause me to rejoice. Rush Limbaugh is on it. I’ll buy the house a round when that fuckstick takes a dirt nap.
Citizen_X
@redshirt:
You’re right; that is tragic.
The fact that it took that long, I mean.
redshirt
@hovercraft: Then the Republican party is literally EVIL and every Republican voter is literally EVIL. And we’re in a battle for Heaven’s favor or some such.
Mike E
@WaterGirl: Would you care for one? It’s all I’ve got in the house for celebratin’…I’d prefer an amaretto sour tho
Omnes Omnibus
@Betty Cracker: He’s on my list too.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Betty Cracker: When the woman who played Vivian “Ethel” Vance heard William “Fred” Frawley (sp?) had died, she was in a restaurant and she stood up and said “Champagne for everyone!”
redshirt
@Coin operated: Yeah, seems reasoned. Sorry for taking the high ground.
amk
@Betty Cracker: Mine starts with darth, murdock and the list goes on. And on.
redshirt
@efgoldman: I believe all life is precious. That’s trolling?
Coin operated
@redshirt:
High ground? Spare me. You knew better but went there anyway.
geg6
@eemom:
This.
redshirt
@Coin operated: Yes, not cheering on someone’s death is terrible and to be denounced!
Betty Cracker
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: No kidding? I had no idea those two despised each other.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: The way you are doing it? Yes.
Betty Cracker
@redshirt: No, but being a deliberately obtuse, self-righteous ass about it is.
redshirt
@efgoldman: If we are truly against Evil, I wonder why bother sticking with politics? Can you deal with the Devil?
Coin operated
@redshirt: Nice try. Show me a pet that would work that hard to remove the rights of their entire species, and you might win that argument.
amk
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: bernie who?
geg6
@redshirt:
Oh Jesus. You are truly too stupid to even engage. Sorry, but some deaths are totally worth cheering. Bin laden and Hitler, just off the top of my head. I’d guess Schlafly is probably responsible for fewer deaths than Hitler but more than Bin Laden. She was evil and the world is a better place today without her. If only it had happened fifty years earlier.
WaterGirl
@Mike E: My parents owned a tavern when I was growing up, and Pabst Blue Ribbon was the beer on tap. We had the big sign and everything! I had my first sip when I was 5.
JR in WV
@redshirt:
Evil “People are worth less emotionally then [sic] pets” . Some people are just plain old evil. She was one, and is greeting Fat Tony while sleeping the dirt nap.
I don’t believe in an afterlife, too complicated, no evolutionary purpose. But if I did I would wish for special accommodations for Fat Tony and Phyllis.
Splitting Image
I’m sorry to say that I’d forgotten some of Schlafly’s “achievements” over the years. Goodbye to one of the most odious people who ever lived, anywhere.
Tramp the Dirt Down
opiejeanne
@redshirt: No, remember I used the word “banal”? The banality of evil. Plenty of it on display in Schlafly’s life, and she did it to create wealth and power for herself. Right to the end of her days she was making people miserable including her own children, just not to the extent that she did to strangers.
Honestly, what is your fucking point? We are glad she has gone to another plane where she can no longer harm anyone here.
I consider her to be a psychopath (science is now lumping psychopaths and sociopaths together with no distinction between them) which you defined as one of the exceptions you would entertain as being a reasonable reason to cheer a death.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: Have you ever been to the Pabst mansion in Milwaukee?
Omnes Omnibus
@Splitting Image: Ahem. ::side eye::
Ruckus
@redshirt:
Are you fucking trying to be this dense? Or are you just trolling as you often do? What those white guys who founded this country and wrote it’s basic principles did may have made them hypocrites but they still wrote it and won a war to make it real. That the conservative side of the aisle has been trying to undermine it for the last couple of hundred years makes them opposition to what they agreed to. That the conservatives for the last 100-150 yrs have been trying to do to make it into something else is being a traitor to the founding concepts. That you are arguing that this is simply politics is bullshit. That you are arguing that we are glad that a traitor to those ideals is dead is wrong is bullshit. Not all lives are equal, but it is not how they are born that makes it so, it is what they try to do to the rest of us that does. She was evil, she was a traitor to the ideals of this country and I’m fucking glad she’s dead. She worked very hard to make sure that many other people in this country did die. I didn’t kill her, life did, but not before she was able to fuck up life for millions of people. So yes, once again I’m glad. How many men and women spit on Mussolini’s body, after they hung him from a lamppost? Should they have been sorry for his death?
JR in WV
@hovercraft:
My dad voted by absentee ballot in fall of 2004, a straight Republican ticket I’m sure. He died at 1 pm on election day. I’m sure his vote was counted that night, but it didn’t matter because he was in Texas.
I was floored when Bush won, and thankful that my younger brother, also GOP all the way, didn’t say a word about it that evening. My brother is a faithful member of the Boy Scout Cult, as well as the NRA and the GOP. We don’t discuss politics at all. That’s how we get along.
Suzanne
@Betty Cracker: Rush is on mine, and David Duke, and Dick Cheney, and Andrew Breitbart already died, and Ann Coulter, and George Zimmerman, and a few others.
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: I was unaware that he/she was a troll. Until tonight, that is. I usually get to read the threads after 11pm PDT, and I miss a lot of stuff.
Aleta
@raven: When a surgery area is healing, the nerves that run close to there do buzz sometimes (or hurt) as the tissue heals. It takes awhile for them to settle down. I looked up which nerves enervate the scrotum: one of them is the ilio-inguinal nerve, which runs through the surgery area for inguinal hernia repair. It’s a sensory nerve, and gives sensation to the skin around the groin, and then also runs down to the scrotum. It would make sense if that was buzzing.
Though if you had strong pain that stayed for too long afterward, you’d want to talk to the surgeon. Because sometimes a nerve gets a bit stuck to something during healing, and if severe pain starts up, it might have to be freed. (Long after a surgery I still had a weird nerve feel, and was told to massage my skin in that spot to get more blood flow. It got better soon after I did that.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Z_roHUz3c
geg6
@redshirt:
Dude, I’ll say it to your face. It’s a good thing this old hag is dead. I hope she suffered as much as she made others suffer, though that would be impossible. My name is Gail Gray and I approve this message. And I hope Dick Cheney is next. By drowning, for some real justice for in this world.
delk
On Wednesday I will turn 54. On the 27th I will ‘celebrate’ 31 years being HIV+. I wasn’t supposed to reach 25. You better believe I cheer every time I outlive another person that used AIDS to further their hate.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: Geg6. Please pull your name. I don’t doubt your willingness to own your own statements, but I would still pull it.
Coin operated
@redshirt:
I’ve run into some dense mofos on the Internet, but you are taking the cake here. I have no problem telling hypocrites of this magnitude to fuck off on a regular basis.
JR in WV
@redshirt:
Again, evil people are as fruit flies. We will never be rid of them, they ceaselessly try to make everyone else miserable, we are better off when some of them are gone. Like Cheney, Dick.
As opposed to loved ones who lift all around them up, friends who are there for everyone, people who dedicate their lives to helping those who need it the most. Like Hillary. Or the Obama family.
Omnes Omnibus
@delk: An early happy birthday to you. You and a couple of other posters here are testament to the fact that HIV is no longer the death sentence it was thought to be in the ’80s. No thanks to Mrs. Schlafly.
Ruckus
@raven:
Now that I’m completely done with redshirt, for ever, I can get back to your important question. I had hernia surgery 3 yrs ago and everything is just a little different. The first couple of weeks the surgery area is settling in to it’s new configuration and every thing that got pushed around and tied down needs to find it’s place. I had to call for info a couple of times with questions like yours because as well as they informed me beforehand, that rarely matches first hand experience. Call and ask is my advice but it sounds, from thousands of miles away and from absolutely not a doc, but from an experienced person, to be normal.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@geg6:
What? Not by being shot in the face?
Suzanne
@delk: Go you. Wishing you many more years of health and vitality, and I only wish that in very small part to spite the hateful motherfuckers like Schafly.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I didn’t even know there was one! What is it like? Have you been there?
geg6
@redshirt:
Ooooo, now you’ve skeered me. I’ll go light a candle for her shriveled smoking hole of a soul. Not. The devil??? Seriously??? I say fuck God, why would I be afraid of the equally nonexistent devil?
WaterGirl
@Aleta: @Ruckus: I love Balloon Juice. You guys rock.
edit: if raven doesn’t respond, he might have gone to bed already. we should try to let him know tomorrow.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: It is a large Victorian house that has been restored to its original state. And, yes, I have been here.
opiejeanne
@delk: Congratulations, on what is in some ways a somber achievement.
I had a scare in 1985 after a 4-pint transfusion. My doctor had my blood tested every 6 months for several years for fear that I might have it; this was in between the second attempt at filtering donated blood and discovering that there was no screen fine enough to exclude the virus. I was lucky, I tested negative, but I will never excuse Schlafly or Reagan for pretending it was anything other than a virus that could infect anyone, and did nothing to prevent to its spread.
geg6
@Omnes Omnibus:
Meh, doesn’t worry me. I know people are paranoid about this but anyone who wants to know who I am can easily find me by the hints in my nym. And many have.
Ruckus
@delk:
Glad you are still with us. Glad the old bat’s life didn’t get you, like so many others.
Gemina13
@redshirt:
I wouldn’t take 1,000,000 Phyllis Schaflys for one Tunch.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: Okay. Just didn’t want anger getting ahead of good sense. It happens to all of us on occasion. If that wasn’t the case, cool.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: I just found the gallery on line. Looks amazing. I want to hang out in the Conservatory!
JR in WV
@redshirt:
The work Phyllis did was intended to make young women suffer and die if they needed an abortion because of a non-viable fetus.
She intended for gay people to be unable to show their gayness anywhere, without being arrested for their personality flaws.
She caused misery with every essay she wrote, deliberately.
She is partly responsible for the fact that we have never had a female president, and that women and men are not constitutionally equal.
She hated it that the courts were deciding that women are actually human beings equal to men during her lifetime.
She hated it that people who speak a language other than English can get help in this country.
She loved the atomic bomb.
She reveled in the deaths of Martin, and Bobby, and JFK, and would have helped with those murders if asked. Perhaps she did, we will never know who helped Martin’s killer run free, nearly escaping to Europe.
I have no doubt that she was gleeful when innocent college students were shot down by the military at Kent State in Ohio.
I gotta stop now, remembering all the bad things I’ve lived through isn’t good for me.
Ruckus
@JR in WV:
How do you forget them? Or do you just not try to remind yourself often?
geg6
@Omnes Omnibus:
My name being out there doesn’t bother me. My family and my boss are well aware of my opinions and political inclinations. My life is an open book.
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: Okay.
Ridnik Chrome
@Betty Cracker: Limbaugh’s on my list, too. I’ll buy the second round.
JR in WV
@raven:
Tiny muscle cramping, maybe?
Larkspur
@Omnes Omnibus: Exactly. No one here had anything to do with the passing of Phyllis Schlafly, age 92. I don’t know her exact cause of death, but I assume it was due to age-related issues. No one assassinated her. People are letting off steam here because aside from redshirt, apparently, we understand the venue. After weeks of hearing Trump bloviate, and hearing the occasional but chilling audience shout of “string her up!” about Hillary Clinton, it’s hardly surprising that we’d react to Schlafly’s natural death with something other than “Oh dear, R.I.P.”.
We didn’t kill her. She died. I’m with aimai: it doesn’t cost me anything to wish condolences to the people who loved her. I personally don’t care. But I didn’t kill her. Had I been employed to care for her during her final weeks, I’d have treated her the same as I would any other person approaching the end of life: carefully, efficiently, and compassionately. Redshirt is acting like I’d have smothered her with a pillow if I’d had the chance. But I wouldn’t have, because that’s not how we treat people, even if Schlafly herself seemed to believe otherwise. (Hey: I had an abortion nearly a half-century ago: do you think Schlafly would have objected to my execution?)
Redshirt, you’re in the wrong venue for this bullshit. I’m not telling you to leave because (a) it’s not my blog and (b) I don’t care if you leave. But you’ve injected a lot of vitriol here tonight. Why? Because you think that’s entertainment? Feh.
andy
I posted the story of her death on my Facebook Atheist Group’s page under the word good. That may in fact make me a terrible person, but on the other hand I haven’t done the real damage to many people’s lives that she has.
Another drag on our society gone.
Good.
JR in WV
@redshirt:
Speak for yourself. I’m proud that my father walked with the NAACP in our small southern town, and resigned from the Country Club, and the JCs and the Elks, because they were segregated.
He was an integrationist, atheist, nudist, Rockefeller Republican, I suspect the only one ever to exist. If anyone actually knows of another, please inform me, no proof needed.
Ruckus
@Larkspur:
(Hey: I had an abortion nearly a half-century ago: do you think Schlafly would have objected to my execution?)
Seems like she would have at least cheered.
sharl
One of my favorite personal accounts of the earlier days of this atrocious person came from a Wonkette piece posted several years ago; the full piece is now here (long, uninteresting story on it’s current home). It’s a long read, but stuff like this is fascinating to me. Hopefully Wonkette will be able and willing to re-post it, though I’m not sure if they have any kind of ownership rights to the article any longer.
But to see further evidence of just how effective Schlafly was in fucking up the old GOP, especially the world of Republican political women, check out the comments there as well, where the author (Lisa Wines) trades memories with the daughter of another Republican party woman official from those days.
Like I told some guy on twitter, she was the Andrew Breitbart of her day, but in my opinion, a whole lot more effective and destructive.
Tehanu
@redshirt:
Every person who does evil thinks they are doing good. Nobody sane would argue that a hateful hypocrite like Schlafly, flying all over the country and being paid for telling women to stay home and shut up, actually sat around like Dr. Evil going “mwa-ha-ha.” That doesn’t change the fact that what she did was evil and harmed literally millions of people. This is a woman who literally said that people should die rather than have sex outside of the narrow confines of her puritanical morality. So none of us are going to apologize for being happy she’s dead. The kindest thing I can think about her is that she is in a place now where she is forced to experience, in her own self, the misery and pain of every single person her political pressure sent to their deaths, one after another. After reliving the suffering of a few hundred thousand AIDS patients and women who died from ectopic pregnancies, she might at least start to realize what an asshole she was. One can but hope.
Oh, and by the way, I saw the local chapter head of the John Birch Society walking down the street the day JFK was shot, with a transistor radio pressed to his ear and a big grin on his face. So it’s not like we don’t have their shining example to follow, is it?
Miss Bianca
@redshirt: You know, most of my pets didn’t actively work to undermine social causes that would have advanced society far beyond where we are right now. So, there’s that.
I mean, some cats or dogs *might* be called evil, but there’s a limit to how much damage they can do.
NoraLenderbee
@Larkspur:
Yep. If I suddenly found myself at Schlafly’s funeral procession surrounded by grieving family, I’d be sober and respectful. But since I’m not, I’m delighting in the debate about whether to dance on her grave or piss on it first.
waysel
@redshirt: You are naive.
workworkwork
@redshirt: It seems you don’t remember the outpouring of grief after Prince’s death earlier this year.
JR in WV
@Ruckus:
I don’t dwell on them. I try to think about good things, pet the dogs and scritch the kitties, plan travel, plan to work for Hillary.
When someone tries to make something worthwhile from someone I know to be evil, like cheney for example, I can think of many reasons not to respect their memory. Phyllis is one of those people, who are associated in my memory with all those things I listed, and more.
I stopped, and now I won’t worry about Martin and Bobby and JFK continuously. I read Dallas 1963 not long ago, history of Dallas from 1960-63, it was a hotbed of KKK and John Birch and racist hatred at the time, and no wonder JFK was killed there. It was a good book, but when I put it down, I put it down.
Now I’m reading fiction with good people fighting evil people. Aliens, actually. Hydrogen Sonata. Last book Iain Banks wrote. Died young, should have written a dozen more. at least.
Sometimes late at night, when all my arthritic bones ache, it can be hard not to think about the evil people of the world. Hannah Arendt wrote a book “The Banality of Evil” about Adolph Eichmann, who organized the logistics of the Nazi “final solution”.
He didn’t hate anyone, he was just assigned a difficult task and did the best he could with it – Killing all the Jews, and Gays, and Gypsies, etc. Anyone selected as inconvenient.
But the Israel Mossad kidnapped him from his hide in South America, and tried him, and hung him. Because for all his banality, he was evil.
I studied that book nearly 50 years ago, and only think of it when people want to pretend that many people are not evil. Yes, they are. We need to watch out for them, and protect ourselves, our nation, from them to the best of out ability.
That’s what politics is about, redshirt. Not who gets to play with the levers of the government. Keeping the evil out of power!
That’s what this blog is about.
hueyplong
I’m kind of sorry she’s dead, because: (1) there’s no record that she ever actually fucked herself here on Earth; and (2) she’s not going to see Hillary inaugurated (unless hell is the kind of place in which the video is streamed into whatever torments she’ll be suffering on 01-20-17. See (1) above.
All her life, she reveled in being a shit. It’s disrespectful to her and an insult to our collective intelligence to pretend there was some core of humanity within her. As for Coulter, she only wishes she could be half as destructive to our society as was Schlafly.
Miss Bianca
@delk: I heartily rejoice that you are still among the living, all the best efforts of Mrs. Schlafly notwithstanding.
SiubhanDuinne
I met her once, a long time ago (probably 1965). Although I was young and in the thrall of people whose views I later came to despise, I have to say I really did find Schlafly creepy even then (there was something about her that a few years later we would come to call “Stepford”). By 1969, I had come to detest her with the heat of the proverbial thousand suns, and have never looked back.
Ruckus
@JR in WV:
You said it in fewer, different words than I did but we seem to be in agreement.
stinger
@delk: Wowza — congratulations! That is so fantastic!
eemom
I have to admit, there’s one problematic case in the “deserve to die” list, i.e., Cheney. Though he’s surely at the top of such list wrt deservedness, I’m not sure he CAN die by any natural means. I think we might really need Jesus and armageddon to pull that shit off.
Elie
I have to pray on the bad things this woman made me feel and I want to not have her have that victory. May eternity take her and may her heaven or hell be reflected in all she left behind. As a firm supporter of Planned Parenthood and all efforts to support women’s (and men’s) reproductive health, we carry on for the women and men now and for the future…She may have brought hate, but we convert it to the positive energy we need to help ALL our people…
YEAH!
SWMBO
Christopher Moore @TheAuthorGuy 2h2 hours ago
Schlafly strappin’ on and smacking that sweet Scalia ass in hell, today
PIGL
@Felonius Monk: or indeed, that her death ever became necessary.
Barb2
One less vote for Trump.
NJ Maine Coon Slave
This is shocking! I don’t know what to say! Oh yeah, I do: Good.
ChrisGrrr
Good grief. I hate to go for the pie filter, but scrolling through this thread to bypass the troll and the troll-feeding took up way too much time.
Wilson Heath
That the poor cancer had to die from that malignant fascist is further proof that there is no god.
L'heurebleue
@ellie: I do wish people would stop referring to this moldy old prune as a witch. She doesn’t qualify! )O(
L'heurebleue
@geg6: Please…”bitch”…not “witch”. Thank you. )O(
L'heurebleue
@debbie: That was Marabel Morgan, another deluded old c*ntess with no self respect. Unfortunately she’s still alive.