What are they going to do? Demerit badges? Coal in John Lewis' xmas stocking? What a bunch of impotent toadies. https://t.co/k7gPXSvEcw
— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) September 5, 2016
Sources: GOP leaders plan to reprimand Democrats over guns sit-in https://t.co/XL5bcL8lpK | AP Photo pic.twitter.com/z8RRTCg9Rf
— POLITICO (@politico) September 5, 2016
… The exact language is still in flux, and multiple sources said discussions are ongoing. But Speaker Paul Ryan’s office and other leadership staff have been researching ways they can punish Democrats for their controversial occupation of the House floor to protest the chamber’s lack of response to the Orlando, Florida, shooting massacre.
GOP lawmakers are expected to discuss the matter next week upon returning from their summer recess. While no votes have been scheduled, some members have been given notice that the response could come to the floor in September.
One option that’s been floated is a resolution broadly stating a sentiment that such tactics shouldn’t be allowed and will be sanctioned somehow going forward. Others are hoping Republicans will publicly rebuke certain Democrats they say “intimidated” nonpartisan House staff members during the late-June incident…
House Republicans were furious when Democrats took over the House floor, a breach of decorum that shut down the chamber for 25 hours after Ryan refused to allow a vote on a gun-control bill. GOP lawmakers seethed in conference meetings following the incident — which garnered loads of favorable press for the Democrats — and demanded that Ryan act to rebuke them.
Republicans say the Democrats’ actions endangered the institution by undermining rules that have governed the chamber for 250 years. Even senior Democrats privately expressed concern about potential long-term fallout, particularly if they’re eventually in the majority and Republicans resort to the same kind of tactics…
Repubs are furious that the Democrats got all that favorable media attention for nothing more than actually acting on their stated principles, and in the process made the GOP look like two-bit gunsels failing to enforce their NRA bosses’ bidding. Because screaming for security to strongarm an elderly civil rights hero and a military vet who lost her legs in combat… wasn’t the ‘strong daddy’ image the Repubs were trying to project.
… Republicans have also taken issue with how a few Democrats in particular acted during the protest. Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters in July that nonpartisan House staff complained to him that Democrats were bullying floor employees, even knocking something out of one staffer’s hand when the person was trying to restore order.
McCarthy said his staff was investigating the matter, had talked to multiple witnesses and was seeking video footage to verify the account. POLITICO has not independently verified his assertion.
IIRC, McCarthy is the mook who lost his shot at the Speakership because he couldn’t resist bragging in front of cameras that Gowdy’s most recent BenghaziAIEEEE!!! hearings were a stunt to take down that uppity Clinton woman. He’s not dumb enough that he still wants to take the job away from Ryan, is he?
Epicurus
And people say this is a “do-nothing” Congress! They do plenty…how many times have they tried to repeal the ACA? How many post offices have they named? Plus, who can forget the hard-hitting investigations into everything the Republicans hate…and how completely they failed. Cripes, please rid the House and Senate of those who don’t want to do their jobs, and for the love of all that’s holy, do not send L’il Marco back to the job he has already abandoned once.
Millard Filmore
Ahhh, the good old Republican Party. Protecting our right to snuff toddlers by the dozen.
khead
This place is uptight.
Have some kitten. Even though Mason is not a kitten anymore.
lollipopguild
Double Secret Probation
nutella
Apparently this sit-in was not unprecedented. It’s the third. The Republican one went on for a month but during a recess so that’s a little pointless. No mention in the article whether anyone was reprimanded for the previous sit-ins.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Kind of surprised they’re bringing this up. do they really want Trump to start talking about guns?
also surprising myself by watching MSNBC’s rehash of Obama’s career and ’08 campaign. I think Michelle somehow looks younger after eight years
MomSense
Please proceed, Deatheaters.
lollipopguild
If there was a video of a Democrat knocking something out of a staffers hand, wouldn’t it be in 24 hour rotation over at Fox Noise?
MomSense
@khead:
Awww. Very sweet little kitty.
Joyce H
Since this is an open thread, want to ask – has anyone seen Melania Trump since the convention? Seems like she used to go to Trump rallies at least occasionally, but has she been spotted recently? I wonder what it’s all about? – the plagiarism thing really threw a damper on the convention (not that it needed help), and we know what a temper Trump has, so… How long does it take for bruises to heal? Seems like any little blemishes of that nature ought to have cleared up by now.
amk
nice little lie by gopolitico.
gop & decorum are oxymorons.
Major Major Major Major
I saw a red state article like last week talking about this. Some of the commenters were recommending actual violence next time. And that’s a moderated forum.
Mike J
There’s a reason the KKK, the Aryan Brotherhood, and the NRA all support the same political party.
Anne Laurie
@Joyce H: If you were Melania, would you want hang around that travelling circus any more than you absolutely had to?
(Also, she does have a kid in middle school, so she’s got other reasons for staying off the trail.)
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I hope they do try something. Maybe the Democrats can do the same thing again and then the Republicans will have nothing left to do but stomp on the floor and weep. That would show ’em!
khead
@MomSense:
Mason pretty much runs the house now.
MomSense
@Joyce H:
I think there may be some issues with her immigration paperwork. He has promised they will answer questions but it seems like he is trying to run out the clock.
Boudica
I learned a new word…had never heard of a gunsel before.
MomSense
@khead:
As it should be.
Omnes Omnibus
@Boudica: You’ve never watched The Maltese Falcon?
redshirt
@Joyce H: I’ve seen or heard nothing. It’s clearly a dramatic shift from before the convention when she was quite public.
WaterGirl
I hope to see more undermining of the bullshit rules that have governed both chambers for a long, long time. We can start with secret holds, for one.
WaterGirl
@khead: What gorgeous markings!!!!
Cat48
Sweet kitty. I’ve been looking at them all day. I really hate this campaign. Loud mouth racists screaming Crooked Hillary lies. No talent at all, except being the most obnoxious racist to ever run. Also, the ability to scream 24/7.
raven
Ole Miss is dancin on the Noles!
Boudica
@Omnes Omnibus: Shamefacedly….no.
raven
@efgoldman: So was LSU.
burnspbesq
Did I read correctly? Did Duterte actually call Obama a hijo de puta?
That little shit has balls, I will give him that.
JPL
@Joyce H: Since it appears she used a tourist visa rather than a work visa to enter the country, the Trump decided to hide her. I assume he will find a newer and better model to replace her after the election.
Shana
@Boudica: Clearly you’ve never seen The Maltese Falcon.
ETA, clearly too late to the thread.
James E Powell
@raven:
Pre-season polls – nobody really knows anything.
WaterGirl
@burnspbesq: I have no idea who Duterte is, but my eyes got big when I put that phrase into google translate. That’s a lot worse than calling the president a dick. Who is this guy and what was the context?
amk
@burnspbesq: Being potty mouthed is not equal to having balls.
Omnes Omnibus
@Boudica: Remedy that asap. The term is used.
@raven: Hey, maybe WI is better than people thought.
raven
@James E Powell: Tell Bama.
John Cole
Those whiny motherfuckers really squeal when you slap them, don’t they?
WaterGirl
@JPL: You really can’t make this stuff up.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: It’s both IMHO.
Major Major Major Major
@Shana: that movie’s great.
ETA: Also too late!
raven
@WaterGirl: (CNN)Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte tore into President Obama with an obscenity on Monday, leading the White House to cancel an upcoming meeting with Duterte.
White House officials previously said Obama would confront Duterte about his country’s handling of drug dealers, including extrajudicial killings, which are government executions without the benefit of judicial proceedings.
“Who does he think he is? I am no American puppet. I am the president of a sovereign country and I am not answerable to anyone except the Filipino people,” Duterte scoffed in a speech Monday. “Son of a bitch, I will swear at you.”
Exit 135
Kevin McCarthy is a semi literate buffoon. He is astonishingly stupid. That I as a taxpayer have to pay for his lifestyle is revolting.
raven
@efgoldman: We killed more of them in the Post-Spanish American War Insurrection than we did Spaniards.
“After its defeat in the Spanish-American War of 1898, Spain ceded its longstanding colony of the Philippines to the United States in the Treaty of Paris. On February 4, 1899, just two days before the U.S. Senate ratified the treaty, fighting broke out between American forces and Filipino nationalists led by Emilio Aguinaldo who sought independence rather than a change in colonial rulers. The ensuing Philippine-American War lasted three years and resulted in the death of over 4,200 American and over 20,000 Filipino combatants. As many as 200,000 Filipino civilians died from violence, famine, and disease.”
JR in WV
@raven:
But WVU walked on Missouri, first team defense kept them to 2 field goals. Kind of surprising, in a good way. Maybe Missouri isn’t very good, maybe (I hope) WVU is better than expected.
Wish I could watch the games… all we get is broadcast TV, or streaming if the weather is good. Maybe I’ll go to town and watch a game at a sports facility…
Major Major Major Major
The new big news story is that Hillary coughed, no really.
And the media wonders why she hates them.
WaterGirl
@raven: @efgoldman: Wow, wow, wow. We really think this guy called the president of the united states motherfucker? That’s definitely higher on the scale than son of a bitch.
smintheus
Gunsels?! I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
burnspbesq
He’s the president of a sovereign country that could become the easternmost province of China tomorrow if not for the United States Navy.
Him, the horse, the farrier, etc.
raven
@JR in WV: Mizzou is awful but good for the Eers, maybe Cole will start putting up college football threads if they get good enough.
smintheus
@WaterGirl: He called Obama “son of a whore”.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Major Major Major Major: Tbogg is getting retweeted with this
PsiFighter37
Paul Ryan has become an even bigger bitch than he was before he was Speaker. Didn’t think it was possible to have any less respect for him…but hey, on the upshot, it means they’ll be wasting time on something other than ACA repeal votes!
raven
@WaterGirl: And to think my old man almost got killed liberating them!
Major Major Major Major
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I was number 500, actually. lol
WaterGirl
@smintheus: That’s even worse.
PsiFighter37
@raven: The Philippines are screwed when it comes to leadership. The next guy I would put money on becoming president is Manny Pacquiao…
WaterGirl
@raven: Ungrateful bastards! Glad your dad made it through that. Was that after you were born or when you were just a gleam in his eye?
khead
@JR in WV:
WVU defense was supposed to be a weak point so I was pleasantly surprised at the outcome. Having said that, having watched the game I’m still not sure how much of the result could be attributed to “the Mizzou O still sucks”.
Major Major Major Major
Anecdata, whatever station they have on in this taqueria is wall to wall Trump wanting to deport people.
raven
@WaterGirl: He was in the retaking of “The Rock” but his ship also landed troops there two weeks before Dugout Doug waded ashore in his phony “Return”. See where it says “The Phillipines First”?
lollipopguild
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: You left out the part where Flight 370 flew into a black hole.
Millard Filmore
@Shana:
Over at alternatehistory.com they would say you have been ninja’ed.
raven
another early morning DVR game!
Patricia Kayden
@lollipopguild: Playing on a loop along with Michelle Obama’s Whitey video.
sukabi
@Joyce H: he might have deported her.
Redshift
@Joyce H: I recall reading that she didn’t really want to speak at the convention (or campaign general.) The plagiarism scandal, plus the fact that they had to pull her online biography because parts weren’t true, plus the visa thing, probably made it very easy for her to beg off any further campaigning.
Needless to say, if Trump was a Democrat, this would be a huge issue…
Major Major Major Major
@Millard Filmore: basically any internet place with people under 35.
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: I wanted a taco. Is something on? I don’t drink and I only watch basketball.
redshirt
@raven: This is outrageous. Racism is an international phenomena, of course, and I assume that’s the basis for the Philipino President’s comment. But they are a client state. We give them billions.
How to respond? Obama cancelled their upcoming meeting, which is correct, but I wonder if there any other measures which the US could take to correct this idiot man. You don’t want to stonewall them, since maybe he’ll turn to China. He might do that anyways. Why not?
lamh36
I see the Jungle Book is out on DVD/BluRay.
The entire voice cast was excellent along with the “live” actor playing Mowgli.
of course bae Idris as Shere Khan “Mowgli…they gave it a name…Man is…forbidden!”
If you didn’t see it when it was in theatres…
check it out on DVD…
BTW, There is another Jungle Book movie coming with Benedict Cumberbatch as Shere Khan. Idris Elba was so good in this one though, IDK how Cumberbatch gon be able to top it
WaterGirl
@raven: I do! But I don’t really know my history. :: bows head in shame ::
p.a.
Yeah, maybe 1898 and its aftermath are as prominent in Filipino memory as 1945. Thought I was at redstate there for a second.
Betty Cracker
@raven: Ha! Thoroughly enjoying it here!
Anne Laurie
@WaterGirl: Long story short, he’s the new President of the Philippines, someone with a reputation for tough talk, and apparently he thinks it’s good for his image and/or his country to demonstrate that the Philippines will no longer be the USA’s “little brother.” In his defense, we have treated that suffering nation very badly going back to Teddy Roosevelt’s time; and I have full faith that our own President Obama will be able to negotiate with Duterte and his ministers sensibly regardless of provocations.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major
Shouldn’t be too hard, there’s a taco truck on every corner from what I’ve heard.
raven
@WaterGirl: Not many people know my old man’s little destroyer landed the first troops there. Even fewer care.
Millard Filmore
@raven:
Its worse than that. According to the link below, it includes police sponsored contract killings (mostly of small time drug dealers so far):
and the collateral damage:
raven
@Anne Laurie: He’s also killing people left and right.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Not yet.
raven
@Millard Filmore: Cut and paste.
lamh36
my reaction to that tweet: don’t do it lamh, don’t do it…
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: well, I actually wanted a Vietnamese sandwich, then I wanted yogurt, then I wanted a taco, so my round trip this afternoon has taken like two miles! Every corner my ass.
Major Major Major Major
@Anne Laurie: he’s a fucking idiot and a national embarrassment.
As an aside, didn’t Manafort have something to do with Marcos?
Anne Laurie
@efgoldman:
Well, yeah, but we owed them something, since they were America’s first conquered province back during the first Gilded Age!
I think it was predictable, if foolish, for Duterte to mouth off in front of the assembled foreign media. And since President Obama is smarter than me, not to mention a lot more experienced in international diplomacy, I’m sure he & his team were fully prepared for a demonstration along these lines.
Punishing the whole nation for one jagoff would be as silly as blaming us Juicers for Donald Trump!
Suzanne
Way to go, brave Republicans. So impressed by your stern, stern disapproval.
They disapprove SOOO HAAAAARD. It’s almost sexual.
Anoniminous
This song just came floating into my head. Dunno why.
SenyorDave
@Joyce H: Since this is an open thread, want to ask – has anyone seen Melania Trump since the convention?
I assume that they are keeping her away from the limelight so there is no questions asked about her immigration status. It would be irresponsible not to ask. Seriously, that would be fair game since immigration is Trump’s number one issue. It must be because he’s had a half dozen positions in the last week alone on immigration.
p.a.
@Anne Laurie: He’s an asshole, but is he playing to a domestic audience? (talking the anti-Americanism, not the brutality.)
schrodinger's cat
Forget Ryan, there were 3 reasons to celebrate the 5th.
Anne Laurie
@smintheus: Both Google and Urban Dictionary define gunsel as “a little man carrying a gun”.
Wiktionary admits that when Raymond Chandler first brought it into American slang, it was a vulgar Yiddish word meaning catamite.
I fully intended both meanings — Ryan & his GOP buddies are cheap gun-fondlers, and the paid rentboys of the NRA mob.
Major Major Major Major
@Anne Laurie: I use that movie to define MacGuffin all the time. Not that it’s in the movie, per se.
smintheus
@Anne Laurie: ‘gunsel’ means a bottom or homosexual play toy of a more powerful man. The other supposed definitions just catalogue the standard wrong assumptions about the word’s meaning.
Ruckus
He’s not dumb enough that he still wants to take the job away from Ryan, is he?
You really have to ask? Really?
OK. Yes, yes he is.
Major Major Major Major
@smintheus: I hate to be the one to tell you this, but words mean what people agree they mean.
lollipopguild
You know if they were smart(I know) they would have let sleeping dogs lie. They want to look tough(We bad! { snaps fingers} We bad! {snaps fingers}.Gene and Richard live again.
Anne Laurie
@smintheus: You gonna argue Paul Ryan isn’t Wayne LaPierre’s playtoy?
Just because they’ve never swapped bodily fluids… as far as we know?
Uncle Cosmo
@amk: For “senior Democrats” they probably went to a nursing home & recorded a handful of late stage dementia patients…& even then had to okeefe the audio until it said what they wanted. Bastards.
Major Major Major Major
@Anne Laurie: Ewwwwww
Nora
Do the Republicans really want to broadcast that they’re such weenies that a bunch of Democrats sitting on the floor intimidated them? I thought they wanted to be the tough guys. I guess it’s hard to play a role that far from your real character.
grandpa john
@Betty Cracker: As A Clemson alumni , so am I.
redshirt
@Nora: No one pays attention to this stuff.
grandpa john
@grandpa john: Now i’m not enjoying it
NJ Maine Coon Slave
“Republicans say the Democrats’ actions endangered the institution by undermining rules that have governed the chamber for 250 years”
Okay. So the rules have been in place since 1766. They really need to learn maths methinks.
workworkwork
@lamh36: I wasn’t sure if I wanted to see it at first – I have such fond memories of the animated feature (we had the soundtrack album and I used to play it and sing along as a youth.) If you’ve never seen it, check out the vocal talent on that film.
It was better than I expected, particularly due to the voice casting. (Scarlett Johannson as Kaa? Oh, my….)
And of course Idris Elba is deliciously evil, yet also manages to evoke some sympathy for his character.
Millard Filmore
@raven: police directed hits:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37172002
collateral damage:
https://thinkprogress.org/the-chilling-reason-why-more-than-1-900-people-have-died-in-the-philippines-90c9ca1ab72e?source=latest
yeah, cut and paste works better. thanks
Mnemosyne
@smintheus:
Unfortunately for him, half the people in this country immediately added “… and a Scotsman” to the end of that.