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“But what about the lurkers?”

the 10% who apparently lack object permanence

If America since Jan 2025 hasn’t broken your heart, you haven’t loved her enough.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

Books are my comfort food!

Shut up, hissy kitty!

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Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

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Marge, god is saying you’re stupid.

So many bastards, so little time.

Trump should be leading, not lying.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

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  2. 2.

    PaulWartenberg2016

    OH JOY!

    NOW THE BELTWAY MEDIA WILL LOVE HILLARY LIKE A LONG-LOST FRIEND AND HOLD HANDS AND GO FOR MALT SHAKES AFTERWARDS THEY’LL GO… go… gooooo…. sigh. You know damn well the Beltway pundits will keep hammering Hillary for being “unlikable” and “corrupt” and a “liar” and 100 other criticisms about her because they’ve got their f-cking Narrative and nothing’s going to change it, and we’re going to get Trump winning because that f-cking bias is going to lull too many voters into thinking “Trump can lead” or some such. DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

    /headdesk

  4. 4.

    Jerzy Russian

    She is just getting everyone in the same room so that she can personally given each one of them the Zika virus. The ones that survive this will be put into FEMA camps and/or given high-level positions in ISIS.

  6. 6.

    Bobby Thomson

    Ordinarily I’d advise against giving reporters something to write about other than Trump’s Nazi rhetoric, but given the doubleplusungood behavior of the Times I guess some clue by fours are in order.

  7. 7.

    The Dangerman

    Damn, when I said she should do the PC a few days, I got flamed and flambed around here. Oh, well; occasionally, I get it right (not often enough for my tastes, but occasionally).

  9. 9.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    I just sent a friend a link to the Gary Johnson post from LGM yesterday, the one talking about his involvement in the the private prison industry. He’s been in arguments with friends who just can’t trust either one of the major candidates and thinks the prison angle might help.

    I told him that in another state, I’d say to let them be morons, but this is NC. The polls are just too close here.

  10. 10.

    Jeffro

    From the WaPo’s article today about how Trump doesn’t even have a basic understanding of how the presidency and the Pentagon/generals interact:

    Buried in all of this are competing instincts: Trump’s disinterest in being wrong and his great interest in being the boss. He threatens to oust top leaders of the military for little other reason than they were in positions of authority under Obama. While his prepared comments from Tuesday suggested that he would seek the counsel of service members who’d committed decades to protecting America’s interests, he tossed that to the side in favor of not being embarrassed by Matt Lauer, insisting that he still did have his own secret plan. Probably one that involves oil.

    ETA: again, just more evidence that the main argument against Trump is that he’s a fucking moron. Apparently that argument doesn’t count for much with older whites, but hey there you go…

    ETA (just one more) – Obama says as much, just more politely:

    (from CNN.com) Obama declared last month that Trump was unqualified to succeed him as commander in chief, and reiterated his view Thursday.
    “Every time he speaks that opinion is confirmed,” Obama said.
    “I think the most important thing for the public and the press is to just listen to what he says and follow-up and ask questions about what appear to be either contradictory or uninformed or outright wacky ideas.”

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Chuck Todd @ chucktodd
    If Clinton campaign was happy with last night’s forum, they wouldn’t be looking to do a presser this morning to provide new Clinton sound

    Greg Greene ‏@ ggreeneva 4m4 minutes ago
    Greg Greene Retweeted Chuck Todd
    “We demand a press conference, Hillary!”
    (*Hillary has press conferences*)
    “Why these press conferences, Hillary?”

    So the various NBC bots are sticking with the idea that their super-awesome hyped to the skies “CinC forum” was a great noble journalistic exercise for them, a disaster for HRC and what’s a Drump?

  17. 17.

    Betty Cracker

    “Last night was another test, and Donald Trump failed again.”

    Ooooo, he’s so gonna mean-girl tweet about that!

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    Whoa, she’s bringing it. Calls out Trump for preferring Putin to Obama, says it’s unpatriotic. What would Reagan say? Take the oil? WTF? OMG!

  21. 21.

    Betty Cracker

    “Every Republican who holds office in this country should be asked if they agree with Trump.”

  24. 24.

    Corner Stone

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Fucking Chuck Todd. And if she didn’t have a presser to firm up her performance from last night he would be saying, “The HRC camp can’t be happy with her performance last night or else she’d be out there repeating her message.”

  28. 28.

    Kay

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Keep in mind. These are the people who thought the Trump Mexico visit was “Presidential”

    Vicente Fox QuesadaVerified account
    ‏@VicenteFoxQue
    Trump you came to Mexico derailed government and President Peño..you lied and betrayed Pena. We need a WALL so you don’t come back.

    It doesn’t matter though- Mexicans aren’t white people. It’s not like when Mitt Romney made a gaffe in England. That was disqualifying.

  30. 30.

    singfoom

    Hope Lauer is there to ask her about her e-mails again. There’s just so many clouds obscuring those e-mails. Storm clouds whirling around the presser I’m sure.

    Is she a witch?

  31. 31.

    artem1s

    Jeebus wept, they are bitching about the fact that Hillz is only leading by a little and not a landslide. never mind the constant fluffing from the media Donnie has been getting for more than a year.

  34. 34.

    JMG

    @Corner Stone: I think Todd has it exactly backwards. After last night, the Clinton camp may have decided/realized that when Clinton is in front of the public in mass TV audience settings, she gains, not loses.

  41. 41.

    p.a.

    Question for press: if you are not treating Donald tRump as an idiot (fascist… insert accurate adjective) because he has the support of x% of Americans, at what point less than x would you accurately report that he is an idiot/fascist etc? Would this point change depending on which political party the candidate is a member of?

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    @JMG: Chuck doesn’t care what she does. Either way it’s the wrong thing and it speaks to her weakness/untrustworthiness/etc as a candidate.

  44. 44.

    JMG

    They’ve waited months to come up with these? My God, Lauer’s questions were better. These aren’t “tough” they’re just stupid.

  45. 45.

    Betty Cracker

    Andrea Mitchell is asking a question now, but I can’t hear it. Could it be a stupid question? Probably!

  46. 46.

    bystander

    @MattF:

    And the stretchers, wheelchairs, and cardiac monitors are all hidden. What gives?

    Another thing she has in common with FDR?

  51. 51.

    Corner Stone

    “I know the road that I’m on. I’ve been on it for 25 years. I just keep getting up every morning and keep moving forward.”

  54. 54.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    Chuck Fucking Todd said something that moranic? I award that 4 Claudes meaning he’s this week’s recipient of the Claude Rains Memorial Gambling Awareness Award. Methinks the CRMGAA will be awarded nonstop over the next couple of days.

  55. 55.

    Redshift

    My favorite thing from the “OMG, no press conferences!” outrage was journalists suggesting that she wouldn’t be getting asked about issues like the emails if she had “put them to bed” by answering them in a press conference.

    Do these people even listen to themselves? Name one time that an issue with Hillary has been “put to bed” by her doing what the press demanded.

  57. 57.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    I wonder if Clinton had daily pressers whether the inane questions would eventually dry up, or whether we’d hear the same shit over and over. Press treatment of Clinton so far reminds me of exactly what the press did to Gore.

  58. 58.

    D58826

    but the narrative will be – was it a press conference or a press avail or just a plain old gaggle? If the verdict is that it wasn’t a press conference then the Villager Idiots can continue counting the days since she had a real press conference.

  59. 59.

    NorthLeft12

    @Jeffro: If it hasn’t already happened yet, I think we are very close to hearing Pres. Obama refer to Deadbeat Donald as a buffoon.

    A very dangerous buffoon, but a buffoon nonetheless.

  61. 61.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    on emails, from one of the more decent and VSP pedigreed Villagers

    John Harwood ‏@ JohnJHarwood 3h3 hours ago
    Powell message to Clinton shows her email choices were much closer to typical govt-official behavior than discussion of issue has indicated

  62. 62.

    Iowa Old Lady

    Not entirely OT, I’m just catching up on last night’s events. I see Trump said Clinton has a happy trigger. I’m embarrassed to admit it, but to me that sounds kind of….dirty?

  63. 63.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @NorthLeft12: A very dangerous buffoon, but a buffoon nonetheless.

    like those scary clowns in the woods in Ohio and North Carolina

    Pennywise Trump!

  64. 64.

    dww44

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: That tweet from Todd just sealed it for me. He is not only a Clinton hater but a not so closeted GOP lover as well. I’ll never trust a single thing he says or writes or tweets again. Neither he nor Norah O’Donnell should have ostensibly non-partisan jobs in the MSM. Neither is at all adept at hiding their biases.

    Yesterday, the CEO of Starbucks was on the CBS morning show opining about how Washington was broken but that there was a need for all citizens to come together outside of D.C. and work to address the problems facing this country. He kept saying that the political climate was irretrievably broken there. and that it was caused by both parties.

    O’Donnell finally pressured him to name which Presidential candidate he was supporting and he replied Hillary Clinton. Then she plaintively asked him how Republican and libertarian supporters would feel about his support of HRC .

    Even Charlie Rose got irritated with her. I’ve long been irritated with her, even before that obnoxious interview of Valerie Jarrett on 60 Minutes a few months back.

  65. 65.

    MattF

    @D58826: Yeah, Reince has been tweeting ‘days since Clinton press conference’. Think he’ll stop now? I’m guessing he’s run out of Bailey’s.

  68. 68.

    The Dangerman

    @amk:

    …..she took your advice straight away….

    I rather doubt she or her campaign reads this blog to take advice, but, if she does as you presume, she agrees with me and doesn’t agree with you. Not bad, huh?

    See, it wasn’t THAT bad and the PC piece is off the board. Damn, maybe she should take my advice.

  69. 69.

    Zarley

    @Iowa Old Lady: is it entirely out of the question that he was referring to her clitoris? Because that would be a factually correct statement — a real achievement for Donnie.

  71. 71.

    hovercraft

    @The Ancient Randonnuer:
    Funny thing is Mark “Good News for John McCain” Halpern scrambled off the set after him to try to give im the opportunity to clean it up, and he relayed a story about one time when he was running for governor, he was asked about an area in New Mexico that was a big deal and that he’d never heard of, but he was elected anyway.

  75. 75.

    MomSense

    @Kay:

    The bar has been lowered so far for Trump. Before that forum last night the MSNBC panel basically said he had to seem capable and know all the words. I’m not exaggerating. Know all the words? Obviously this is no problem for der Trump because he has the best words but this low set of expectations was offered after presenting Clinton with a laundry list of things she had to do to prove herself.

    It’s completely messed up. The only silver lining I can see is that a bunch of us women of a certain age, who have had the experience of being passed for a job only for it to go to a no-nothing guy, will take out our revenge in the voting booth.

  76. 76.

    the antibob

    Maybe Kellyanne and Ivanka each have hold of a tiny thumb…

    Hah! Wiping coffee off the monitor now. Thanks Betty.

  77. 77.

    Hildebrand

    I am wondering if Hillary shouldn’t do daily pressers just to show the ghastly press corps just what a candidate is supposed to be able to do. Every day just trot out there, answer questions with substance and grace, and remind them that this is what we expect out of our Presidential candidates. Put the screws to them – tell them that they should expect the same level of competence from the anthropomorphic cheeto. Every damn day.

  78. 78.

    mike in dc

    Pleasantly surprised that the conference wasn’t 15 consecutive questions about emails, foundation pay for play and why people don’t trust her. Maybe that’s for the next one…

  81. 81.

    bystander

    In a just world, last night’s silly mess would put it away for Clinton. I thought her press conference was good if only because she got to point out that Trump violated the first classified intelligence briefing he was in.

    I would personally revel in the outrage if Obama decided to rescind Trump’s attendance at intelligence briefings.

  82. 82.

    chopper

    well that was a perfect example of why hilz doesn’t do pressers. was there a single substantive or policy question in the whole thing?

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    Balloon Juice favorite Glenn Greenwald is on Twitter disapproving of the language Clinton used to convey that ISIS is rooting for a Trump win…perhaps not realizing that she was quoting an ISIS spokesman.

  88. 88.

    Peale

    @Betty Cracker: But how can you trust what ISIS says? Those are just their words that they used. Maybe if you’d look at the body language more carefully, you’d get a different message.

  90. 90.

    hovercraft

    @MomSense:
    As I said last night we have to hope that it’s like 2008 and 2012 where the punditocracy kept telling us that us that Obama had lost the debates, but then when the reputable polls were done not the online insta crap polling, which can be juiced by a campaign, they all said Obama won.* The media really wants and needs a horse race, but as you said, for many of us women, the constant interrupting and the double standard rings too many bells for us to look past it.
    * he first debate in 2012, is the exception, but even that did not change the trajectory of the race like the media said it would.

  92. 92.

    Peale

    @dww44: I think the Starbucks guy was one of the big contributor to “No Labels” and is a big believer in the idea that only a billionaire can save us from our rancorous politics.

  94. 94.

    Barbara

    @Peale: Of all the things Trump said last night, that was the most outrageous. Let’s say it was accurate, just for the sake of argument. What it shows is that, for political advantage,Trump is willing to disclose discord between the president and his advisers, which is information that potentially helps others, including Russia or ISIS in devising strategy against the U.S. Boys and girls, does that make America stronger or weaker? And, of course, it was not accurate so it just shows Trump is a big fat liar willing to make things up.

  95. 95.

    SFAW

    @eric:

    Trick question! Coventry City have never won the FA Cup!

    Yes, I got the ref.

    You goddam Marxist.

    ETA: And if I had only read just a little further, I woulda seen Librarian’s response.

    Oh, bugger.

  97. 97.

    Botsplainer

    @Jeffro:

    He’s actually dumb enough to envision himself bringing the Chiefs and every other 4 star in the structure and shouting “you’re fired”.

    That’ll sure in shit motivate the three stars to excel – each of them at a career point that would have them in a position to retire.

    Are there a bunch of two and one stars that would be ready to fill the void? Yes, and as we’ve seen, at that career point they’re administratively untested, and more likely to be craven opportunists and religious nut jobs who haven’t been weeded out yet.

  98. 98.

    hovercraft

    @Hildebrand:
    That’s kind of what the plane gaggles are. For most voters who watch the news, when they see clips of her fielding questions from the press, that will dispel the meme that she is hiding from the media. Prius and Trump Co. can tweet their “number of days” count but it will be meaningless.

  102. 102.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    @Betty Cracker:

    Balloon Juice favorite Glenn Greenwald is on Twitter disapproving of the language Clinton used to convey that ISIS is rooting for a Trump win…perhaps not realizing that she was quoting an ISIS spokesman.

    Greenwald’s a prime example of what happens when you believe your own bullshit.

  105. 105.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    @Betty Cracker:

    Andrea Mitchell is asking a question now, but I can’t hear it. Could it be a stupid question? Probably!

    “Madame Secretary, does it bother you that facts just don’t seem to matter in this campaign?”

  106. 106.

    germy

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Gary Johnson apparently didn’t know what Aleppo was this morning. Does Trump?

    “Sure. Groucho, Chico, Harpo and Aleppo. Next question, Matt.”

    Mitt Romney said Johnson should be allowed in the three debates. Can the bar be set any lower?

    I know young people who ignore print media; believe everything should be digital. I like the speed and efficiency of online news myself, but it makes hijinks like the NYTimes article switching possible. If the original Times article had appeared in an early morning print edition, it’d be impossible to make disappear.

  109. 109.

    StringOnAStick

    Hey, I’d like to send a pet photo to Annie Laurie for the “help us stay sane” project; anyone know how to do that?

  111. 111.

    CONGRATULATIONS!

    I think the Starbucks guy was one of the big contributor to “No Labels” and is a big believer in the idea that only a billionaire can save us from our rancorous politics.

    @Peale: I worked for that SOB’s company for a couple of years back in college. He’s really good at talking a game. His real agenda (a two-layered society comprised of billionaires and their owned slaves) which is something anyone can find out by working in one of his shit coffee outlets for a month, is very different.

  112. 112.

    Botsplainer

    @D58826:

    It would be fun if she popped out and said “I know YOU PEOPLE have your obsession with narrative and here’s mine: he’s an idiot and a fascist and a fraud, singularly unfit to lead the government of our great nation. He’s like every conman developer who will vomit out anything to coddle unhappy investors, and YOU PEOPLE lap that up like the dog’s breakfast. So go out and print your little tale about “both sides” being nasty or whatever you’re gonna do; I don’t really give a shit. Pressed is over, there will be no followips, and I don’t care about granting you access.”

    Then she gives a derisive sneer and stomps off to silence.

  113. 113.

    Hoodie

    @dww44: I believed many used to refer to her as “Noron.” I’m really dreading the next few months because we’ll see the idiocy of the press corps on full display. What’s been depressing me lately, though, is the realization that something between 45-55 % of my fellow American voters will pull the lever for a lying, narcissistic, ignorant old fart with a bad spray tan and a shitty combover. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter that Matt Lauer is an overpaid infomercial host, because anyone with half a brain would have seen that Trump is not qualified to have anyone’s life in his hands. The fact that the press can get anywhere at all trying to normalize him for purposes of a creating a ratings-driving horserace is scary. I guess they know their audience.

  118. 118.

    WaterGirl

    @bystander:

    …only because she got to point out that Trump violated the first classified intelligence briefing he was in.

    can you say more or point me to a link? thanks

  119. 119.

    bupalos

    The reason we need 2 strong responsible parties in US politics is because the press is simply a mass corporate enterprise where ratings are the coin of the realm. The Trump has hacked into that existing reality and has ridden it further than anyone could have possibly expected, but zoom out and there’s no reason to be surprised. This is a cadre of people and corporations whose livelihoods are completely dependent on the horserace. No one need hold their breath waiting to see if this will change and the press will somehow grow a conscience and stop throwing their entire body onto the Trump side of the scale. They won’t. They can’t. This is like waiting for a tree to grow a nose.

    Right now, Hillary is an existential threat for the media beast. The current wisdom (which I think is right) is that it’s truly and numerically impossible for The Trump to win, but very possible for him to get blown out early, essentially cancelling the election and a whole bunch of the billion dollars that it pumps into the corporate media ecosphere every few years. The past month was scary for this beast, as there didn’t even appear to be a theoretical batch of states Trump could cobble together, and they had to contemplate the idea that John King might be standing in front of a big interactive map for 6 hours being asked about the formula for a Trump victory, and simply not being able to create one no matter however furiously he tapped on every rural and exurban county in Michigan and Pennsylvania. So last night you have Matt Lauer opening with 30 minutes of questioning on “emails” but not one second for a follow up on Trump’s Iraq opposition lies or apparent “plan” to plunder its corpse. And this morning on NPR you have Mara Laison reporting on this half-hour questioning of emails as proof of the clouds of murky mistrustful mist surrounding her campaign, the balancing mass against which The Trump’s laughable gradeschool-level lies, evasions, and Nazi rhetoric is weighed and found to be…hmmm, oh wow, It looks like a close one, Bob! Back to you!

  120. 120.

    Botsplainer

    @Amir Khalid:

    Heh.

    No musicians in this one, alien or otherwise. Actually, I’ve only been in one place in this town (been 4 times in the last year) that had live music.

    Interesting part is that there is a table full of Mexicans across the bar speaking to each other in English. Everybody here is bilingual to a great extent, and this is just a working fishing village.

    I can practice my bad Spanish while they gently correct me.

  122. 122.

    Jeffro

    @NorthLeft12:

    If it hasn’t already happened yet, I think we are very close to hearing Pres. Obama refer to Deadbeat Donald as a buffoon. A very dangerous buffoon, but a buffoon nonetheless.

    In my wildest dreams, NFLTG Obama just comes out and says, “The guy is an f-ing moron”.

  123. 123.

    SFAW

    @Amir Khalid:

    You’re in a cantina? Do the musicians in the band look at all … unusual?

    It’s not those “guys” Botsplainer has to worry about — it’s sitting down at a table with some pilot who looks like a “lovable rogue.” I hear he shoots first, asks questions later.

  126. 126.

    Jeffro

    @MomSense:

    I’m not exaggerating. Know all the words?

    That (a variation of it, anyway) is a running joke in the Jeffro household – my kids love it. Any time one of us does something dumb, we make a goofy face and go, “…but at least I have the best words…” (a la Trump several months ago).

    I mean between being possibly the most offensive person on the planet and one of the dumbest, c’mon Deep Bench, how did y’all not clean this guy’s clock?

  127. 127.

    trollhattan

    @MattF:
    It instantly becomes “days since Clinton’s penultimate press conference,” which will have legions of wingnuts looking to borrow their neighbors dict…fancy word books.

  128. 128.

    Jeffro

    @Botsplainer:

    He’s actually dumb enough to envision himself bringing the Chiefs and every other 4 star in the structure and shouting “you’re fired”.

    He’ll fire them until he finds the ones that will tell him what he wants to hear, i.e., that we can swoop back in there, ‘take the oil’, kill every ISIS soldier and their families, and then evac our troops back out in 48 hours with no casualties. Or POWS either, since he doesn’t like those.

  130. 130.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    @Jeffro: I’d prefer the unexpurgated version: “The guy’s a fucking moron.” I’m never quite sure how to pronounce the dash. A glottal stop? An elision?

  132. 132.

    Corner Stone

    I was thinking about Trump’s Putin-loving comments. Not only did he praise Putin for his leadership he cited a specific number for his approval rating! “He has an 82% approval rating.”
    He took the time to know the actual number for the leader of Russia! WTF.

  133. 133.

    bystander

    @WaterGirl: Sorry no link. Mark Murray was discussing it with Kornacki. Barbara Boxer also was on. She was good but enough with the smoky eyes at 10 AM.

  135. 135.

    SFAW

    @Jeffro:

    I mean between being possibly the most offensive person on the planet

    Outside of me, that is.

    and one of the dumbest,

    Gohmert (Congress), Hannity (TV), or Hoft (Intertubez) have him beat. The ferret-headed shitgibbon is nowhere near as smart as (some) people give him credit for, but he’s not a complete moron. Complete asshole, maybe.

  139. 139.

    Botsplainer

    @Jeffro:

    Probably some wingnut USAF evangelical two star will sign right on to that. It’ll be some raging asshole with zero time in a combat role. Navy, Marines and Army will shriek, McConnell will move the Senate to quickly confirm a 4th star, and the British, French, Italian and German militaries will have to coordinate with China to usher in regime change in DC about 2 years in.

    In that event, Reince Priebus winds up standing in the dock at The Hague begging for mercy…

  143. 143.

    Kay

    @Corner Stone:

    “He has an 82% approval rating.”

    “I’ve just known Pam Bondi for years. I have a lot of respect for her. Never spoke to her about that at all. And just have a lot of respect for her as a person. And she has done an amazing job as the attorney general of Florida. She is very popular.”

  145. 145.

    dexwood

    @The Ancient Randonnuer:
    Well, as someone who lived under two Johnson terms as governor (Governor No), I’ve seen little proof of that. While he was governor, part of my job was to track his policies and statements for a research outfit I worked for at the time. I thought he was always an ill-informed idiot. Yet, people liked him because he took a “bold” stand against government. Hell, he even vetoed a bill his wife championed. Of course, to be honest, I thought that about him long before he became a successful, millionaire building contractor and Republican governor. When he was in college at UNM, he worked for my neighbor’s construction company sometimes, as did I. My impression of him was not favorable. My neighbor, on more than one occasion, called Johnson the dumbest employee he ever had.

    As for Johnson’s successful company, Big J, I can tell you he was fortunate to have a wife who was smart, skilled, and very business savvy. She really ran the company. Without her, Big J would have been just another small construction company. This was the same wife he later divorced after taking up with a younger woman and who died from cancer not too long after the divorce. Gary is, and always has been, a self-centered jerk.

    Sorry to post this and run.

  146. 146.

    SFAW

    I just received an e-mail “News Alert” from The Hill re: her presser: “Media doesn’t ask Clinton about emails”

    The article was bad enough. Then you get to the comment. Oy. The first ones wanted her jailed and executed for treason.

    I SO WISH they would all move to Dumbfuckistan, bring all their firearms with them, and then let things follow their natural course. Crazy/stupid/evil motherfuckers.

  149. 149.

    Kay

    Email from the trenches :)

    Hello from you friendly neighborhood Ohio Together Field Organizer
    I just wanted to take this time to invite you out to the new field office opening right up the road…

    It’s a red, rural county w/maybe 10k Democrats. I bet it means they have the whole state covered now.

    Maybe Clinton Team can just outwork the douchebags. That sometimes turns out okay. Not always, or often enough really, but sometimes.

  150. 150.

    SFAW

    @trollhattan:

    [Stares at Corvair sneaker tops.]

    If you’re wearing them when you’re out running (or playing hoop or whatever) don’t make any sudden turns.

  151. 151.

    SFAW

    @Kay:

    And she has done an amazing job as the attorney general of Florida.

    “I mean, who else could be AG and still be as corrupt as the people she’s supposed to investigate, amirite? Not like that lightweight Schneiderman, or that Spitzer guy – what losers! And she doesn’t try to make life difficult for rich people like Jaahb Creators who know how to work the system.”

  152. 152.

    Jeffro

    @Comrade Scrutinizer: You just say “effing moron”. For some reason I was self-censoring…I think I was feeling badly about dropping a full f-bomb earlier in the thread or something.

    I don’t know why – this is BJ after all

  153. 153.

    Jeffro

    @MomSense:

    I think we could have enjoyable combined family dinners. It’s a big joke at my house, too.

    One would think that when even the 11-year-old in my house gets it, that anyone who would say something that incredibly dumb shouldn’t even be in charge of cutting up their own food, perhaps the media could take note one in a while.

    “I have the best words”…right up there with “I love the poorly educated”…

  154. 154.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Botsplainer:

    In that event, Reince Priebus winds up standing in the dock at The Hague begging for mercy…

    I’m sure his liver will have given out by then, you can only do Bailey’s on Lucky Charms for so long.

  155. 155.

    randy khan

    @SFAW:

    Of course he shot first. If he didn’t, at that range he would be dead. (And besides, the script makes it obvious that he has to shoot.)

    I’ve never actually gotten why there’s any question about that.

  159. 159.

    D58826

    LAtest outrage – according to weekly standard (large grain of salt) Congressional democrats were not told that the payments to Iran would be in cash. I guess I’m just getting old and senile but what the H____LL difference does it make if the payments were in cash, check. money or or coconuts?

    And according to the VSP’s Hillary gave the presser today to make up for her bad performance last night.

    (sigh)

  160. 160.

    MCA1

    @bupalos: Perhaps the saddest part is the sheer lack of creativity and vision. If just one enterprising media outlet would remind itself that perhaps the most famous actual horserace of all time was Secretariat winning the Belmont by a quarter of a mile, they’d realize there’s another $$$ making narrative RIGHT THERE for them. The stories about a historically unqualified and buffoonish candidate present themselves every goddamned time Drumpf opens his mouth. Aren’t media executives supposed to be the leading storytelling experts? There’s more than one story, and there’s plenty of audience looking for a different movie right now.

  163. 163.

    Origuy

    @D58826: The payment was in cash, IIRC, because international sanctions have kept Iran out of the international banking system for the most part. Your ATM card won’t work there. Can you imagine the uproar if the payment was in gold?

  164. 164.

    hovercraft

    @D58826:
    Since it’s against the law for financial institutions t have dealings with Iran, what form did they think the payments would be in ? Bitcoins, Gold Bullion ?

  165. 165.

    NorthLeft12

    @Corner Stone: And just the notion that there would be an unbiased poll on Putin’s popularity is also a little mind boggling too. But I guess Deadbeat Donald just thinks that polls are rigged in the US and other democracies and not in authoritarian states.

  166. 166.

    SFAW

    Actually, it would not surprise me if Putin’s popularity were that high. What little I have heard — so take this with major salt — is that they love him, because he’s making America Russia great again. Standing up to the Americans, who are looking down their/our noses at them, etc.

    Of course, he’s in significantly better shape, and also considerably smarter, than the ferret-headed shitgibbon. But no doubt Corrupt Deadbeat Donnie would make his paymaster Vlad into a pitiful, helpless giant, because shitgibbon has the best words/mind/nukes.

    It still amazes me how many stupid people there are in this country.

  170. 170.

    Turgidson

    @burnspbesq:

    Unfortunately, most of the people supporting Johnson have no particular clue or interest in what he actually believes and just think (quite wrongly) he can’t possibly be worse than the Short-Fingered Vulgarian or Hitlery. Particularly former BernieBros who say they’re voting for him – because there is no sane world where someone who claims to actually believe in the things Bernie does and share his goals for policy would switch to Gary f’ing Johnson before they switch to Hillary. So the types of people supporting him won’t care, or likely even find out, that he doesn’t know what Aleppo is.

  171. 171.

    rikyrah

    @Kay:

    It’s a red, rural county w/maybe 10k Democrats. I bet it means they have the whole state covered now.

    Maybe Clinton Team can just outwork the douchebags. That sometimes turns out okay. Not always, or often enough really, but sometimes.

    Kay,

    we aren’t talking about where Hillary is opening 10 offices to Ferret head’s 6…..

    He’s not opening ANY.

    He’s leaving it ALL to the RNC.

    We shall see what gets out the vote.

    We shall see.

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