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Late Night Open Thread: “… The Aristocrats DEPLORABLES!”

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So tender, their white male feelings!…

(But some of them – the Trump supporters — are good with that, okay?)


And yet, laughably stupid, from the top on down…

Did I mention “vicious, also not very bright”?…

Everyone who tries to work with Trump ends up damaged… mostly because they’ve earned it…

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  1. 1.

    frosty

    No other commenters? Where are the snarling vicious jackals? Oh well, reckon I’ll get ready for work tomorrow and crash.

    As far as the post, I got nuthin’. They’re embracing this? Ugh.

    ETA: It’s actually deplorable.

  3. 3.

    gene108

    I remember, in the early 1990’s, when David Duke won the Republican nomination for an elected office in Louisiana, the RNC and pretty much every Republican went out of their way to distance themselves from him.

    Now not so much.

  5. 5.

    Steeplejack

    And David Duke misspells fascist in his “Deplorables” poster. Of course.

    ETA: I guess we’ve had it all wrong. They’re not fascist, they’re “facist”—like they don’t like certain people’s expressions or something.

  6. 6.

    eemom

    I will just feebly say, once again, that I thought “basket of deplorables” was fucking brilliant. And that the tsunami of shit that followed, and all the tsunamitors, can go fuck themselves. The end.

  7. 7.

    James E Powell

    I had such low expectations. I knew they were going to do Clinton like they did Gore. But I have to admit I was surprised at how a bout with pneumonia gets turned into a scandal.

    How can this go on for two more months?

  8. 8.

    Aleta

    Trying to remember the names that Trump supporters were calling HRC at the RNC. In an orchestrated way, at cued moments in the speeches. Don’t recall the words, but I clearly remember how deplorable (and sick, frightening) they were.

  9. 9.

    Peale

    Why do they think Pence’s soul has been tainted by Trump? Has he tried to be governor of All Indianans? Don’t think so.

  11. 11.

    amk

    Forget the rethugs and their msm ass kissers. They are gonna do what they are wont to do.

    Why are dem morons like axelrod and gibbs whining about her ‘secrecy’? Especially, when the other side has released jacksquat till date on anything. dems are their worst enemies.

  12. 12.

    jacy

    It really is peeling back the masks. It’s horrible, but in the end it’s better out in the open. Hope that those who are mortgaging their souls find there’s no changies or take-backs. They need to own it forever. This election season is like a Republican drunken frat party, and I hope that in clear light of day at least some of them are mortified by what they’ve done.

  14. 14.

    NR

    The Clinton campaign is now attacking cartoon frog memes on Clinton’s official website.

    Get used to saying “President Trump,” folks.

  18. 18.

    Emerald

    @James E Powell:
    If they go on for two more months this way, then they’re done. They are committing suicide.
    What I find so amazing, and I’ve said it before, is that this is an astonishingly historical election. Yet they’re trying to make it like every other year.
    They can’t.

  19. 19.

    Cermet

    Well, with people in the US that dress up in SS uniforms (as if just being a regular German soldier Nazi’s isn’t over the top bad enough) these ass wipe animal pieces of shit dress in the standard ‘Extermination Camp Uniform’ to play act – meanwhile, these same ass wipes would shit themselves, break down and cry uncontrollably, as they ran away if they ever saw any real combat much less the beyond brutal Eastern front battles typical of WW II that Russian soldiers fought constantly. These are truly typical Rump supporter ‘deplorable s’ that our news media likes to forget as do a few similar ass wipes trolls here.

  20. 20.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    You know, outside of the terrifyingly awesome Dies Irae sequence, the rest of Verdi’s Requiem really isn’t that good. Tedious. But that Dies Irae . . . Anyone who thinks “Ride of the Valkyries” is the most intimidating bit of romantic music is listening to the wrong overblown, bombastic, late 19th century opera composer.

    Why a baseball closer would pick anything else as his entrance music eludes me. Time it so that the Trumpets of Armageddon about a minute into the Tuba Mirum are sounding just as you hit the mound. It has a very, “FEAR ME, FOR I AM THE LORD THY GOD AND YOU WILL BOW DOWN BEFORE ME,” feel to it.

  21. 21.

    Mary G

    @eemom: I agree, it’s a great phrase. Her clarification of “OK, not half” was perfect. Maybe two-thirds?

    Whoever did Uday’s deplorables poster used a picture of Ben Carson where he looks like a black character from a 1930s movie that’s seen a ghost. They are even racist to an ally.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Marcion: Yes. “Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white”.

    Um, no, dipshits. Unless you’re implying that only whites can be racist, and some of us try very hard not to be, but you people revel in it. Much like a certain political party in Central Europe about 80 years ago.

  23. 23.

    Jesse

    @NR: So, if I may recap, the Trump campaign has been openly embraced (and largely assimilated) by this year’s flavor of Neo-Nazi, the Clinton campaign is explaining this, and you’re celebrating what you see as Trump’s consequent inevitable victory?

    This is not a rhetorical question: what the hell is wrong with you?

  25. 25.

    Jesse

    And this is how I arrived at my version of Angry White Voter.

    I’m really amazingly fucking tired of this polite hypocrisy that says we can’t point out fucking loud and proud racists, because we might hurt someone’s fee-fees. Oh, does it make you uncomfortable, Straw Trump Supporter, that you’re marching in the same parade with the proud heirs of the actual fucking Nazis? GOOD. It should.

    I’ve had enough of this mealy-mouthed crap and mollycoddling racists because “tradition” and “a different time” and the endless line of other excuses. I’m glad Clinton told the truth. I’d really like to see her keep doing it.

  27. 27.

    Splitting Image

    I figured I’d reserve judgement on the “basket of deplorables” thing for a couple of days because whatever else it was, poking the hornet’s nest like this was risky. Let it no longer be said that Hillary Clinton is a risk averse politician.

    That said, the Republicans fucked up big time. They took the bait and claimed the word “deplorables” for themselves and the Trump campaign is now proudly associating itself with loud and proud white nationalists, even more so than they were before. People who have never concerned themselves with the dregs of the internet may now get curious about all those strange-looking people in the back of those pictures. Not to mention the frog.

    “Anti-Racist is a Code Word for Anti-White” is going to take some doing to climb down from.

    Also noteworthy is that poll about whether or not Trump is biased against women and minorities. The number for those who strongly disagree that he is has been hovering consistently between 25 and 27%. Will John Rogers never live this down?

  28. 28.

    Another Holocene Human

    The way the NYT has been reporting about Clinton’s email “scandal”, like Glenn Greenwald’s pursuit of Obama and Snowden reporting two years ago, is propaganda.

    In the early 20th century when mass media first became a thing, there was a lot of talk about the responsibility of media elites and governments to use the power of mass media for good, for example, to get people to get vaccinated. They also recognized the great power for evil. They called it propaganda. Because of Nazi and Soviet use and overuse of this concept nobody wants to call it propaganda now.

    But that’s exactly what is going on. The press is using their power to shape opinion to make it seem like Hilary is dogged by scandal. By not covering Trump’s real scandals or dropping them on one page and making them disappear, they create a false equivalence.

    This is dangerous. There are millions of rubes who believe Clinton is a criminal that a corrupt system refuses to prosecute. And they are angry.

    Yes, some wingers realize it’s all just a game. But the marks don’t.

  30. 30.

    Another Holocene Human

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I think it helps to take in the Verdi Requiem in the context of the only thing he cared about, the Unification of Italy and overthrow of the existing political order. It’s not really about a soul meeting its maker on its journey through the Underworld.

  31. 31.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Splitting Image:

    That said, the Republicans fucked up big time. They took the bait and claimed the word “deplorables” for themselves and the Trump campaign is now proudly associating itself with loud and proud white nationalists, even more so than they were before. People who have never concerned themselves with the dregs of the internet may now get curious about all those strange-looking people in the back of those pictures. Not to mention the frog.

    Unless open, genocidal Nazism was really a winning strategy all along, which I think is still possible. In which case we were probably doomed from the beginning, regardless of our nominee.

  32. 32.

    Matt McIrvin

    (I mean, can you imagine Bernie Sanders knowing what hit him in the face of this? Clinton at least does.)

  33. 33.

    MattF

    @Matt McIrvin: Maybe it’s a detail, but Nazism is an ideology, and Trumpism is a sort of personality disorder, i.e., there’s a ‘Trumpism’ code buried somewhere in DSM-V. Not actually comparable, IMO.

  34. 34.

    Matt McIrvin

    @MattF: Yeah, probably I’m just feeling dismayed because I’ve been getting into online fights with literal Heil-Hitler-type Nazis who are all excited about Trump.

  35. 35.

    john fremont

    @gene108: I also recall William F Buckley Jr sending some of his longtime writers like Joseph Sobran and John Derbyshire off of the National Review for the antisemitism and racism that was showing up in both of their writings.

  36. 36.

    Matt McIrvin

    @john fremont: Buckley was totally and vocally racist himself. He just wasn’t a Bircher, which was the key distinction. Derbyshire got fired years after Buckley died.

  38. 38.

    DissidentFish

    So if you have been wearing a shirt that says “Trump that bitch,” you don’t get to whine when you’re called deplorable.

  39. 39.

    Mr. Mack

    Well, I don’t claim to be a brilliant political strategist…but I saw no value in the “basket of deplorables” line. Like it or not, Hillary will be held to a different standard, she always has been and yet she has thrived. To expect people to suddenly “get her” seems like a bit of a long shot. I winced when I heard it, and I’m a supporter. Maybe the idea is to motivate our voters? Someone is going to have to patiently explain the brilliance of this.

  40. 40.

    Ben Cisco

    @Mr. Mack: It’s simple – it’s telling the truth, which both her opponent AND the media have actively refused to do. SOMEBODY has to tell the truth. What better time to do so than when it is so obvious that schoolchildren get it? What better time to do so than now when the difference between the candidates is so stark that only a complicit media and the willfully ignorant would refuse to acknowledge it?

  41. 41.

    BruceFromOhio

    PENCE: I don’t believe in making value judgments, Wolf.
    BLITZER: And you resent Hillary Clinton for doing it.
    PENCE: Yes. She’s disgusting

    Can’t discern whether we are in Mel Brooks or Mel Blanc territory. Most days, it seems like both.

  43. 43.

    Mr. Mack

    @Ben Cisco: Ben, I hope you’re right. I don’t like the line and I wonder if it was fed to her or she just came up with it while speaking. It seems like an important distinction to make. If it was on purpose, then it was strategic. Not sure I buy in to the idea that it’s value is that it’s the truth. There are many truths that never see the light of day because it could alienate potential supporters, that’s just politics, right? Anyway, I am loathe to second guess the people running her campaign, but this seemed a little reckless. Guess I ought to turn off my TV.

  44. 44.

    gvg

    @Jesse: My 74 year old mother is worried about the backlash and thinks it was a “gaffe”. I am reminded of an article i read back when Obama was beating Clinton in the primaries. It pointed out that Hillary and the democrats of her generation spent a lot of years losing elections when they were “too liberal” and said many including Hillary had developed a permanent crouch of defensiveness. Looking back in my own memory I had to agree. Obama did not start from the same assumptions about what would lose elections and so I liked him better. She also got in a lot of trouble for implying that Obama would lose the general because of racism. I knew she was wrong because I could see evidence around me that many people had changed but looking back at the elections she had witnessed I could see why she would worry. My evidence was the number of mixed race kids in the grocery store with white grandparents which I interpreted to mean not only were more mixed race marriages happening, but the families were routinely accepting of it. Well I think she has noticed that times have changed and she is running differently now. My mother, and many older people remember different things that I do and expect simular results. Mom, by the way is very liberal. She also is probably unaware of just how connected to racism the Trump supporters are. I guess I will have to send her more info. I need to find the video’s of Trump supporters shouting lynch stuff. She wants to win the election and fears alot anything she thinks will turn some people off. I told mom that if Hillary doesn’t stand up to this, she will also lose supporters.

  45. 45.

    Mike in Pasadena

    In Dulles airport yesterday I happened to see Trump on the teepee moaning about how awful it was that Clinton insulted many fine Americans. So exactly when did Trump suddenly start supporting Politically Correct speech?

  46. 46.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done For Us?

    Mike Pence gets the award for quickest display of a lack of self awareness. I don’t make value judgments to “she’s disgusting” in one question.

  49. 49.

    Wapiti

    @Mr. Mack:

    If it was on purpose, then it was strategic.

    After she wins, Clinton is going to have to deal with race and racism. Black Lives Matter is almost a new civil rights movement, and the protests by NFL players is a sign that it is going mainstream. Putting a chip down now, promising supporters that she will not cave to racists, sexists, religious bigots, homophobes, and such is important. A warning shot across the bow of Paul Ryan and others is also useful.

    Her baskets work for me, because with few exceptions, she didn’t put most people into the baskets. They get to choose – am I deplorable or just disgruntled? Democrat surrogates should continue that – don’t put people by name into those baskets unless you’re totally writing them off.

  50. 50.

    Captain C

    @DissidentFish: However, if you wear one with a comma: “Trump, that bitch,” you might be a little witty. Plus, the grammarphobes at his rallies wouldn’t notice the difference.

  55. 55.

    nutella

    @Another Holocene Human:

    Because of Nazi and Soviet use and overuse of this concept nobody wants to call it propaganda now.

    But that’s exactly what is going on. The press is using their power to shape opinion to make it seem like Hilary is dogged by scandal. By not covering Trump’s real scandals or dropping them on one page and making them disappear, they create a false equivalence.

    You’re right, although I might phrase it a little more directly: The American media is hard at work throwing the election to Trump. I didn’t say it this strongly before but when I heard that the NYT had 4 stories on the front page about HRC’s health plus one more with Trump’s opinion on HRC’s health, this makes it perfectly clear. They, and most but not quite all of the rest of the press, are deliberately and obviously working for the Republican candidate.

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