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They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

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The GOP is a fucking disgrace.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

People are complicated. Love is not.

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Second rate reporter says what?

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

This really is a full service blog.

Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

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I’m half-assed watching the Bucs. Winston is throwing interceptions again.

Here’s a photo of Ray-Jay Stadium I took the other day at a USF Bulls game:

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The Bucs aren’t there; they’re in Arizona, losing 10-0 at the moment.

Earlier, we were out in the country. Saw a canoe launch that led to a pretty pond:

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We got some fresh veggies and produce for a salad. I made an orange vinaigrette based on this one from Giada. Got any good salad dressing recipes?

Open thread — football or other topics. Except politics.

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  7. 7.

    ? Martin

    Patriots still won despite losing their backup QB. Granted, it was Miami, but still – that’s got to hurt. I imagine Brissett isn’t going to sleep much between now and Thursday. He’s got a fuckton of work to do. I wonder if the Pats won’t just write off Thursday’s game and try and keep everyone healthy.

  9. 9.

    Corner Stone

    @Felonius Monk: Kind of. I made Orange Chicken one time as a stir fry and used a little too much orange juice in the batter. It was still quite tasty but just a little too…orange.
    I am now deeply concerned other things in our environment that involve orange may also go a little overboard and we all suffer for it.

  12. 12.

    The Dangerman

    @Yutsano:

    Seahacks have Joe Buck, Kill me now.

    Hey, think of us kind souls in the LA area; without an NFL team, we got the best games, for decades, at all the start times. Now, with the Lambs around, we get them at their slot time and nothing else. Will St. Louis take them back? How about Las Vegas? The Reno Rams has a nice ring to it.

  14. 14.

    Corner Stone

    @JPL: Not really. The Texans have looked exceedingly pedestrian against a bullshit Bears team and then a low powered Chiefs team. We had takeaways galore today.
    The Texans need to nail down the Pats on Thursday, even with a backup’s backup QB before it’s possible what they are going to do this year.

  15. 15.

    raven

    I finally got home after a whirlwind trip to the Windy City. It took TWO-AND-A-HALF motherfucking hours to get and Avid yesterday. There had 30 people in line when I got there and one agent. When I was next they announced that their computer had crashed and they (she) would have to do everything by hand. When I finally got done they didn’t have the SUV I’d reserved so I got some Chevy. Everything went well at the memorial but I couldn’t sleep so I drove to Midway at 5am to see if I could get on a flight earlier than 11am. It was too expensive so I had 5 hrs to kill so I got on the L and rode downtown and got a couple of sunrise shots through the train window,

  16. 16.

    JPL

    @? Martin: Especially if Gronk plays.
    From twitter
    Edelman on Brissett: “He is very mature and poised, especially for a millennial. You know all these kids.”

  17. 17.

    The Dangerman

    @JPL:

    Goropollo is out at least six weeks. They’ll have a backup…

    I wonder what Johnny Football is up to these days; not too many available QB’s out there that aren’t complete stiffs. I mean, Shaun Hill. Really? I rest my case.

  19. 19.

    ? Martin

    @Corner Stone: Any team looking at the playoffs better be able to beat the Pats missing Brady, Gronk, and Butler at home. Missing Garoppolo as well, it shouldn’t even be close.

  20. 20.

    ? Martin

    @JPL: No he looks like a solid QB, but how much time does he have running plays? Brady needed to do all of his work preseason since he’s not even allowed in the facilities now. Garoppolo needed to be good enough to cover the first 4 games. How many times has he even thrown to Edelman or Gronk? I bet there are Make a Wish kids with more passing experience with Gronk than Brissett has.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    My beautiful city. What a great photo, Raven.

    Welcome back. I hope you were able to give your friend a fitting sendoff.

  23. 23.

    Corner Stone

    @? Martin: Brock should consider not throwing passes three yards behind his receiver when the Texans are driving in the red zone. I did not see anything in today’s game that was locked down against a well coached team like the Pats.
    When the Texans come out of Foxy with a win I’ll take it.

  24. 24.

    JPL

    @? Martin: Without adding another quarterback, Edelman is next in line. I didn’t watch but Brissett’s stats weren’t bad. He’s not Garoppolo, but most quarterbacks aren’t .
    I listened on radio for awhile, until my stomach couldn’t handle it.

  25. 25.

    Felonius Monk

    @Corner Stone:

    quite tasty but just a little too…orange.

    I occasionally order Orange Beef at Chinese restaurants. Some places do it perfectly, just that subtle hint of orange. Others go way overboard — not so good.

  26. 26.

    Mike in NC

    We are visiting Savannah next weekend. Don’t know the area at all, so any comments on places to see and things to do are appreciated.

  30. 30.

    Keith P.

    @Betty Cracker: I can believe it. They have the pieces (Watt, Mercilus, Clowney this year?…Hopkins and Fuller). Osweiller at least isn’t scared, but their run game is absolute shit (they finally traded Arian Foster, at least…I’ve been pushing that for 3 years). I think their coach is an unimaginative dinosaur version of a head coach, but at least he isn’t Gary Kubiak (how the FUCK did Kubes win a Superbowl?!?!!)

  31. 31.

    raven

    @Mike in NC: Take one of the tours, we were vine able to take our dogs on one. The drive out to Tybee is fun during the week and the Crab Shack is a nutty place to eat. Pearl’s Saltwater Grille is off the beaten path and really good. There is a nice shuttle boat that goes from the docks on River Street across to the Convention Center and it’s free. If you take it during sunset it’s really cool. Finally, the rooftop bar on the Bohemian Hotel is really nice and has a great view.

  32. 32.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: It was good, I was worried there wouldn’t be enough folks there but that wasn’t the case. The slide show with “What’s Goin On” playing was very nice. Shitty way to see people you hadn’t seen in 40-50 years but it was nicely done and plenty of laughs.

  35. 35.

    Sherry

    Excellent low-fat dressing from Whole Foods:
    Orange Peanut Dressing – Serves 4
    2 oranges peeled and seeded
    1/4 c. rice vinegar
    2 Tbsp. peanut butter
    2 Tbsp. cashew or almond butter (I only had whole cashews so I added small handful.)
    1 tsp. Braggs Liquid Aminos or soy sauce.
    small piece of ginger, peeled
    1/4 clove of garlic
    Whir it up in a high-speed blender.

  39. 39.

    Keith P.

    @Betty Cracker: Yeah, I hear ya…who names a black kid “Arian”? Decent running back, but he’s fragile as hell. I’ve told fellow Houstonites that the Texans should trade Foster for magic beans or whatever the hell we can get for him*, but they waited until he had a few more major injuries, so they got NOTHING (said in a Cliff Huxtable manner). He reminds me of RGIII…lots of talent, but he can never finish the season, although RG3 is a bit more self-inflicted.

    * I also tell my fellow Houstonites that Houston is CHOKE-fucking-CITY, but I do that for fun. Telling them that Arian’s gonna rupture a tendon again this year brings me little joy.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    CSNNE.com

    But according to a source with knowledge of the injury, Garoppolo isn’t necessary lost for the balance of Tom Brady’s four-game suspension. Depending on how inflamed the area is and Garoppolo’s level of pain tolerance, he may be able to get back in the lineup. AC joint injuries, it was pointed out, can be injected with painkillers and managed if a player gets close enough to a tolerable level of pain.

    That would be good news, since the sports writer from the Herald said six weeks.

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    @raven:

    No, I’m much too prim and proper for that.

    Condolences to your for your friend.

    And nice shot of the Sears Tower and surroundings. (Yes, I know they renamed it.)

  49. 49.

    SFAW

    @JPL:

    That would be good news, since the sports writer from the Herald said six weeks.

    Of course, if the Pats sent Garoppolo to Ray Ramirez, he’d be lost for the entire season, the playoffs, and the first half of next season. Then maybe the Jets could work a deal — Geno Smith for Gronk, even-up?

  51. 51.

    ? Martin

    I will say this. Garoppolo getting injured may not be the worst thing for Brady. Brady better return with his A game – Garoppolo was playing really well.

  56. 56.

    Bruuuuce

    Maybe the Pats can pry Tim Tebow away from the NY Mets now that the Mets have had their little joke signing in the papers already.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    @Bruuuuce:

    Maybe the Pats can pry Tim Tebow away from the NY Mets now that the Mets have had their little joke signing in the papers already.

    Throw in Terry Collins and it’s a deal!

  59. 59.

    Phylllis

    @Mike in NC: We’re big fans of the Crystal Beer Parlor on Columbia Square. The hearse ghost tour is great fun as well. The Olde Pink House is most excellent.

  60. 60.

    ? Martin

    @SFAW: Brady is safe for this year, no question, but Brady is getting old and there’s a salary cap and someone will start throwing real money at Garoppolo.

  61. 61.

    Bruuuuce

    @SFAW: I would have before losing potentially great manager Wally Backman. Besides, what would Collins do under Belich..um..ick?

  62. 62.

    germy

    Yesterday I saw a man walking his cat on a leash. I couldn’t help but question him about it.

    He said he attached a leash to the cat’s flea collar. I was too polite to tell him I thought this was a bad idea. Better to use a harness than to attach a leash to a flea collar. But it was a cute sight anyway.

  63. 63.

    germy

    I think my house is haunted. Nothing too extreme. Just weird noises.

    I don’t believe in ghosts, but if I’m wrong I don’t want to make too much of a fuss over it. Hopefully we can all share the house.

  64. 64.

    Felonius Monk

    @germy:

    I think my house is haunted.

    Hang on, Halloween is right around the corner. Maybe you could open up a neighborhood attraction.

  69. 69.

    germy

    @opiejeanne: Didn’t seem to mind.

    I have no experience with flea collars for our cat, but I thought they had a safety feature that made them detachable? If the cat saw a squirrel (or some other temptation) couldn’t it break free and run off into traffic?

    ——-

    I had a cat many decades ago I tried putting a harness on. He was quicker getting out of it than houdini.

  72. 72.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Phylllis:

    We’re big fans of the Crystal Beer Parlor on Columbia Square. The hearse ghost tour is great fun as well. The Olde Pink House is most excellent.

    Solid advice. If you go to Crystal Beer Parlor, try the she crab soup. For a great high end meal, go to Elizabeth’s on 37th Street. Good restaurants around City Market as well. Try the pizza at Vinny Van Go-Go’s. Good places on River Street as well, but some are too touristy. Speaking of touristy, do not eat at the Pirate’s House.

  73. 73.

    germy

    A few nights ago, it must have been around 3:00am, I awoke to the sound of someone washing and scrubbing dishes in our kitchen. At first I thought my wife had gotten up from insomnia. I remember being annoyed that she was so restless at night that she’d make noise in the kitchen while I was trying to sleep. Then I heard her snore quietly next to me. I lifted my head up from my pillow, debating whether I should go investigate, but the sound stopped. I stayed put and believe it or not fell back asleep. I’m no duppy conquerer.

  77. 77.

    p.a.

    Strange day at the Razor. LOTS of season ticket holders gave up/sold their tix to others, just because no TB12 apparently. (Judging by our section and talking to people at a group tailgate party, and people in the stadium.). They missed JimmyG’s first home start, Brissette appearance, and Kevin Faulk’s into Pats HOF.

    Off topic: trailer for London Town, a ‘Clash inspired movie’.

  79. 79.

    Steve in the ATL

    @efgoldman:

    They fire Kirby yet?

    Like Tennessee did with Bill Battle, who won but didn’t win big enough?

    Battle got the last laughs, however. He got a piece of all collegiate licensing and that has made him seriously, seriously rich. And now he’s AD at Alabama, which is successful at a level Tennessee can only dream about.

  80. 80.

    germy

    @p.a.: Do you remember the movie that came out a few years back about an unsuccessful band that kept running into the newly-formed U2 ? Young actors played the U2 members and they kept getting more and more success while the other band (the main characters) couldn’t get it together.

  82. 82.

    Corner Stone

    @JPL: I’m only getting the CBS Indy v Den game. Not sure I would really rather watch the Failcons at Raiduhs. But there is some scoring going on.

  83. 83.

    Steve in the ATL

    @germy:

    A few nights ago, it must have been around 3:00am, I awoke to the sound of someone washing and scrubbing dishes in our kitchen.

    And it turned out to be…[ominous pause] Paul Ryan!

  86. 86.

    p.a.

    @germy: no. I’ll try to find some info on it. not really a big movie guy, although I do know the guy who plays Joe Strummer played Joe in Bend it Like Beckham (I’m a big Keira Knightley fan, tho I haven’t seen ALL her work.)

  87. 87.

    The Dangerman

    @Yutsano:

    I can’t imagine them staying long.

    They may stay, but with no TD’s in 2 games, the fans might find other things to do; go to the beach, mow the lawn, go sit in a traffic jam someplace. Lots of other things to do in LA.

    Are you still doing IRS stuff? Can you hack in and take one for the team and get Trump’s returns? We’ll take up a collection for you for your time in the Big House.

  93. 93.

    germy

    @Aleta: There might be more than one.

    I think the cat sees them.
    She stares over my shoulder at something behind me.
    She’s not frightened, just fascinated.

  98. 98.

    Corner Stone

    @germy: I really don’t think so. IMO, the touch of shit that Trump has cloaked Ryan in will keep him out of any national race. I think we will see Cruz and some amalgam of the Bush clan, but Paul Ryan misplayed this tight rope too badly in all directions.

    ETA, B Crack won’t mind a rando one on one. Shit happens when you’re talking about ghosts and shit.

  100. 100.

    JMG

    @JPL: Garoppolo’s agent should quit before letting his client do this. Kid’s shown he can play in the NFL. To go out there all numbed up and risk permanent injury because your team thinks it needs two wins in September? Insane. The Pats have no loyalty to players who outlive their usefulness. It’s one reason they’re so good. But that disloyalty works both ways. Garoppolo doesn’t need this audition any more. So he should tell them to pound sand if they want to give him a shot.

  101. 101.

    p.a.

    @JPL: Really looked good for a rook coming in mid-game. One bad sack/fumble, while he may have locked on primary target he didn’t force anything and ran rather than go 1 2 3 with check downs. They kept it pretty simple, mostly outs and swings to Bennet, and runs. Shocked the O line did as well as they did against the Dolphin’s D front.

    @Omnes Omnibus: I know.

  104. 104.

    Corner Stone

    @JMG:

    The Pats have no loyalty to players who outlive their usefulness. It’s one reason they’re so good. But that disloyalty works both ways. Garoppolo doesn’t need this audition any more.

    Matt Castle had a larger sample series but, yeah. Look how much money Castle made off being successful in the Pats system.

  108. 108.

    raven

    @p.a.: The Ice Man.

    A streak of fire, a breath of flame

    Eluding all who reach and clutch;

    A gray ghost thrown into the game

    That rival hands may never touch;

    A rubber bounding, blasting soul

    Whose destination is the goal.

    –Grange of Illinois

  109. 109.

    raven

    Quoting Grange

    On how he got No. 77: “The guy in front of me got 76; the guy in back of me got 78.”

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    @p.a.:

    They kept it pretty simple, mostly outs and swings to Bennet, and runs. Shocked the O line did as well as they did against the Dolphin’s D front.

    Did Brissett lead the team to any actual points after he came in?

  112. 112.

    ? Martin

    @p.a.: I agree. He had a nice scramble for a 1D. Did a really good job saving that high snap and turning that into a play. The only criticism is that he wasn’t ready to run a throwing game, and that’s hardly his fault IMO.

  115. 115.

    ? Martin

    @Corner Stone: He brought them to a TD. Blount run, IIRC. They should also had a FG in the 4th but Gostkowski missed wide. Wasn’t a long FG attempt either. Really odd for him.

    He was outscored by Miami, and needed a 21 point cushion to pull off the win, but then the Pats knew they had that cushion and it was apparent they were playing safe.

  116. 116.

    Corner Stone

    @efgoldman: Not a lot of backups win 11 games in a season but sure, point is somewhere in there. Just says, IMO, that GM’s are horrible judges of talent and are massively overpaid. Year after year and team after team.

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Fuck fuck fuck. Now 2016 is fucking with The Sound of Music.

    RIP, Charmian Carr. You will always be 16 going on 17.

  118. 118.

    Corner Stone

    @Steve in the ATL: Matt Schaub was actually a very serviceable starting QB for a number of seasons. Not going to set the world on fire but for a couple years I could not tell you 15 other QB’s I would have preferred to start for the Texans. He got his bell seriously fucking rung toward the end of one season and was never the same after that.

  119. 119.

    PsiFighter37

    Emmys are on tonight…don’t plan on watching, in large part because the fact that ‘The Leftovers’ got zero nominations despite lots of critics saying it was the best show of the year is a disgrace. The first season had its flaws, but the second season was virtually flawless, especially the last 3 episodes.

  120. 120.

    Pogonip

    @germy: We had one who lived in the bathroom. He liked to flush the toilet. Once we got used to the toilet flushing in the empty bathroom, we all got along fine.

  122. 122.

    p.a.

    @Corner Stone: 7 pts in 1st second half drive, and a drive leading to a missed chip shot 39 yd. field goal in 4th. But not 1 3-and-out, moved ball to keep Miami on long field for scores. And score they did.

  127. 127.

    The Dangerman

    I’ll see your Matt Casell (whomever nominated him) and raise you a Jeff Garcia.

    ETA; Dude got paid way too much and ended up marrying a Playmate; lucky bastard.

  128. 128.

    raven

    @Felonius Monk: I hung with the boys until about 10 central time and then went to the hotel and fired up my Dish Anywhere and started it from the beginning. I ran out of gas @ midnight and tried to sleep. I went to the airport at 5am, couldn’t get an earlier flight so, after my train ride on the L, I want back to the airport and watched the 2nd half on the iPad. I was able to avoid hearing the scores it was perfect!

  129. 129.

    Felonius Monk

    @raven: Glad you got to see it. I was glued to the Buckeyes and Sooners. Ohio State is looking good, so far. We will see.

  130. 130.

    Keith P.

    @germy: I don’t believe in ghosts or anything supernatural other than boring superstitions (like luck et al). My mother had a story when I was young about being in an old family house where she started suspecting family ghosts were spooking her. Then she realized that her family wouldn’t try to hurt her (nor could they…they’re not corporeal), so it must be bullshit. Personally, I’d LOVE to see a real ghost or any sign that there is more to this world than The Standard Model, but I have not been blessed by that. I want to believe there is more than what we see, but maybe my doubts makes me a poor candidate, because I just don’t find ghosts scary.

  131. 131.

    Ian

    4/6 gallon mayonaise, 1/2 gallon buttermilk, 5 tbs basil dried, 5 tbw orageno dried, 5 tbs parsley dried, 3 tbs salt, 1 tbls white pepper.

    It is all the hit with the kids these days.

  134. 134.

    Larryb

    Hey Betty, Here’s my no-utensils, 30 second insta-dressing.

    Ingredients:
    1x soy or tamari
    2x meyer lemon juice
    4x olive oil
    Generous course-ground salt and pepper

    Directions:
    Dump all ingredients over salad and toss.

    Corrections:
    If too sour, add mirin.
    If too bright, add more salt.
    If too bland, add a splash of rice or sherry vinegar. A dab of wasabi works too.

  137. 137.

    SFAW

    @Bruuuuce:

    I would have before losing potentially great manager Wally Backman.

    Wally quit, wasn’t fired. If Alderson went to him and said “We fucked up” — in those words, Wally might come back. I hear he’s a bit of a hard-head, but I’m OK with that, if he manages well.

    Besides, what would Collins do under Belich..um..ick?

    Um … who cares?

    ETA: I would not be averse to Ray Ramirez and Kevin Long being thrown in the deal, as sweeteners. Maybe Warthen, too.

  139. 139.

    Keith P.

    @Larryb: I applaud the gratuitious inclusion of Meyer lemon. One of my cooking philosophies actually came from some foodtv show with the Outback Steakhouse guy where he said “add flavor every chance you get”, and Meyer lemons does that. Meyer hollandaise, Meyer clam dip (callout to Nana!)…they’re all great (after compensating for the lower acidity; I like my lemon dishes to sting the tongue)

  145. 145.

    Ang

    I tend to use ad blockers on most websites, and unblock sites selectively if I consider them worth supporting. This site is unblocked, and I can’t decide on the best reaction to some of the ads that pop up – do I go with happy that the bad guys are wasting their ad dollars on a site that so obviously won’t garner any votes, or annoyed by the presence of republican ads?

    I just got an ad for “Coffee with Ivanka Trump YES I’M IN!” Paid for by Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. This particular one pushed me far into the side of laughing at the idea of the ferret-wearing shit-gibbon (damn but that phrase is brilliant) thinking that anybody here would be starstruck by the allure what he considers to be his eminently fuckable daughter, and that by extension, the appeal of basking in her presence might actually garner him votes.

  148. 148.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    As my brother could tell you, I have no love for Fitzpatrick (goddamn Harvies are everywhere), but he’s a better QB than Tebow. The Jets D-Line seems like it could be pretty good. I think Revis is not where I was hoping he’d be this year, tough to tell if he’s lost it, or just slumping.

    Anyway, I don’t think the Jets are going to beat the Pats with a healthy Brady, but Tebow ain’t Brady in his wettest of wet dreams.

  149. 149.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Corner Stone:

    I’ve got a bag of potatoes under the sink that can throw the out better than Tebow. I expect a call from Belichick before Timmy gets one.

  150. 150.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW:

    Anyway, I don’t think the Jets are going to beat the Pats with a healthy Brady, but Tebow ain’t Brady in his wettest of wet dreams.

    That’s fine. But I did not say that.
    Anyway, no way to prove this out so meh.

  152. 152.

    J R in WV

    @Sherry:

    I’m sure you meant 1 to 4 cloves of garlic… right?

    Just me. I use a lot, supposed to keep skeeters away. Plus Yum! Neighbors grow a ton, we get fresh garlic around mid summer that was planted last fall. Very juicy!

  153. 153.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    Yes, I know you weren’t talking about Brady. As Max/Andy (indirectly) noted just above: Tebow’s days as a pro QB are pretty much dead, no matter what he does, or who picks him up.
    Against the Jets, Tebow would gain more yards on the ground (himself) than in the air, and I’m guessing he’d be lucky to get 50 from running.

    But you just keep on telling yourself that the Jets are chumps, if it makes you happy. They might be, but let’s see how the season goes, shall we?

    But I wish they could get a real QB one of these days. Fucking “game manager” types drive me crazy.

  154. 154.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @SFAW:

    But I wish they could get a real QB one of these days. Fucking “game manager” types drive me crazy.

    That Namath guy was pretty good. And that guy with the weird last name you had for a year or so had his moments.

  155. 155.

    J R in WV

    @Betty Cracker:

    The dance down the sideline? That was agility personified, wasn’t it? Amazing balance and concentration. You don’t see that so clearly in the NFL that often.

  156. 156.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @SFAW:

    Even if he could run as well now as in the past, so what? The NFLhas a way of physically breaking down running quarterbacks. All it takes is one misstep, and there goes a knee, or one big hit to dislocate a shoulder.
    One way to look at that is from a fans or teammates perspective- it’s demoralizing- or you can look at it from a G.M.’s perspective- it’s money out the window.

  157. 157.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW: Again, I did not say that. You have a real issue with putting your own BS into what I typed here.
    FWIW, I love B-Marsh. I am his biggest non-family fan and want him to do super well. Fitz was in Houston for a bit so I know his limitations.
    Tebow would throw for 200+ yards and run for 50+ in every contest (average for the season). Because he’s slanting to Gronk/Bennett and he’s undering to Amendola and Edelman. Blount is going to get his and Tebow would play off tackle.

  158. 158.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    Tebow sucks as a pocket passer. But he only has to make two throws to be successful in the Pat’s offense. The under and the slant.
    He’s not excellent at either but in that division he’s going to win 10 games a year.

    So basically, he can’t do shit, but no problem, because it’s the Pats. In other words, SiubhanDuinne (or me, for that matter) at QB and the Pats win 10. I can see them winning 4 from the Bills and Fins. But they’ll probably split with the Jets, just like last year.

    Either way, the Pats lose to the Giants in the Super Bowl.

  159. 159.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW: I’m not a Pats fan. And you’re being ridiculous if you want to say you or SD equal the athleticism of a Tebow.
    Sock, stuff it.

  160. 160.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    Again, I did not say that. You have a real issue with putting your own BS into what I typed here.

    You know, that’s the second time you’ve said “I did not say that” without specifying what exactly offended you. Your first comment was “Tebow wins 10 games a year with the Pats, and beats the Jets like a drum in that division.” and I took exception to the idea that Tebow could ever do that. Sorry if I did not use your exact words in my response, next time I’ll make it more clear. Not that it will matter.

  161. 161.

    J R in WV

    @germy:

    Cats!

    One night, we were reading in bed before turning the lights out. The big (22 lbs) cat was on the floor beside the bed, looking very hard at under my chair beside the bed. Very hard!

    So I looked under the chair – was a little brown grass snake, curled up, looking back at the cat. I picked him up and dropped him off the back porch into the woods.

  162. 162.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    Oh, get bent, whiner.

    Tebow failed with both the Pats AND the Jets, but now, apparently because of the magic that is Gronk and Belichick (ooh, I didn’t mention Edelman, so I guess you “didn’t say that”), he’s going to be Joe Flacco on (figurative) steroids. Whatever.

    And you’re being ridiculous if you want to say you or SD equal the athleticism of a Tebow.

    Please DO try not to be a moron.

  163. 163.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW: I have to take you literally at some point when you keep trying to fuck with what I have clearly said here, fool.
    Now fuck off and GFY.

  164. 164.

    SFAW

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    That Namath guy was pretty good.

    He was, but I wish I had seen him with good knees, I heard he was awesome.

    And that guy with the weird last name you had for a year or so had his moments.

    I was going to ask if you meant Boomer, then I remembered our chats. Yeah, if the Jets had gotten him a few years earlier, that would have been interesting. Although the Jets in 2008 were nothing to write home about, outside of a few like Revis and Mangold, maybe Ferguson.

  165. 165.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    Yeah, yeah, love you too.

    But if you think that using “that” — when there is more than one “that” (in the comment referenced) — is “clear,” then you might need some remedial English instruction.

    ETA: Actually, it’s probably remedial thinking instruction that you need. Sorry for not being “clear” before the ETA.

  174. 174.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Yeah. And there should have been one on Diggs for taunting after his TD catch.

    And finally lost a fumble. Shit.

  180. 180.

    Larryb

    @Elie:

    for some of us, Meyer lemon is a rare ingredient — like once a year. Any thoughts on alternatives?

    Oops. I forget not everyone has one in their backyard. You can achieve the same affect by adding one part in 3 of orange or tangerine juice to regular lemon. Or just say f**k it and go regular lemon from the get-go.

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