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If you’re gonna whine, it’s time to resign!

Decision time: keep arguing about the last election, or try to win the next one?

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Consistently wrong since 2002

If you still can’t see these things even now, maybe politics isn’t your forte and you should stop writing about it.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

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Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

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Usually wrong but never in doubt

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We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.

Compromise? There is no middle ground between a firefighter and an arsonist.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Everybody saw this coming.

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

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Folks, the update hit last afternoon and it was pretty undramatic. There are likely a few issues here and there, so please use this post to report them. I will be working on other things this morning and early pm, but will check this post before I consider my work done.

There is no guarantee that I will fix everything or do what is asked, but I will see what I can do for things that make sense or are truly bad. Thanks to all for your kind words and help in identifying remaining issues.

ETA: Back button is fixed and HTML help hidden for now. I know there are a few small issues to solve on the mobile site too, but since most users access the desktop site, it’s my priority right now.

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  1. 1.

    mb

    For whatever reason, BJ no longer tries to break my browser (Firefox) when I first load the site. For that, I am eternally grateful.

  3. 3.

    Major Major Major Major

    The posters are idiots and the front pagers are idiots and the seasoned campaign professionals who worry about Hillary are idiots and my mother neglected me as a child because she worked two jobs, and daddy drank, so I lash out anonymously at strangers on the Internet to make myself feel like a big man.

    Sincerely
    shomi

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    Until you fix the back button, it’s barely worth testing the rest because no back button makes the site very frustrating to use.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    Steeplejack, did you get my email message from about a week ago? Not sure you check that email account very often.

  16. 16.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    Back button is working for me in Firefox.

    But I’ve lost the HTML buttons.

    Alain, I have a request. Is there a way to strip playlist information from embedded Youtube videos? Mayhew’s post this morning embedded a video from a playlist, which means we were all treated to the autoplay of a clip from a Russian dub of the Tinja Minja Ninja Turtles after what he intended to embed.

  17. 17.

    Lee

    Testing in FF (48.0.2).

    Back button works.

    HTML buttons present.

    I don’t have No Script or very many other add-ons installed with FF.

  21. 21.

    FlyingToaster

    Mac El Capitan Firefox 48.0.2
    Back button working
    Reply working
    Edit not available
    Basic HTML Tips lights up on rollover, otherwise inactive
    missing formatting buttons at top of text area
    text area is a resizable box

  24. 24.

    Bob the site tester

    @FlyingToaster: testing with Edge. Shall see if edit is working. so yes, click to edit and I am now editing the comment.

    And one more time just for fun. Editing comments works. Back works. Basic HTML tips does not.

  29. 29.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    People, comments will be more useful if you note:

    1. Version of site (desktop or mobile).

    2. Operating system (Windows, Mac/iOS, Android, Unix, etc.).

    3. Browser.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    Back button works, but you can’t go forward – it doesn’t seem to work properly after you have gone backwards.

  31. 31.

    J R in WV

    @Lee:

    Testing in Linux Upuntu 14.04 / Chrome for bac button, etc.

    @FlyingToaster: testing with Edge. Shall see if edit is working. so yes, click to edit and I am now editing the comment.

    And one more time just for fun. Editing comments works. Back works. Basic HTML tips does not.

    Material in block quote not data from my test, but which does test two html buttons, which look good at inserting commands.

    ETA:
    Material I typed/pasted in remains in posting box after pressing “post comment” button. Back button did something when first pressed, but didn’t return to my comment as expected. Not active upon second test.

    Edit worked OK.

    HTML tips button not active.

    Coffee ready, more later.

  32. 32.

    FlyingToaster

    Mac El Capitan Firefox 48.0.2 in safe mode
    HTML formatting buttons are back! Looks like it’s a conflict with an add-on
    no Back Button
    Basic HTML tips still nonfunctional.

    ETA: and edit is working!

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    I click to anchor on #29 and then go back up to find some previous comment.
    Then
    I click to anchor on #18
    Then
    Click on @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism in #18 to see what #18 is in reply to.
    That
    Takes me to #16

    But…
    I have NO back arrow! So back is still not working properly.

    Desktop site, MacBook Air, Mac OS X, Safari

  34. 34.

    J R in WV

    @Lee:

    Testing in Linux Upuntu 14.04 / Chrome for bac button, etc.

    @FlyingToaster: testing with Edge. Shall see if edit is working. so yes, click to edit and I am now editing the comment.

    And one more time just for fun. Editing comments works. Back works. Basic HTML tips does not.

    Material in block quote not data from my test, but which does test two html buttons, which look good at inserting commands.

    This is the text remaining in the posting window after posting and editing post. Now going to post a second time, should work since previous post has been edited, and this material has been added to also…

    ETA:

    Posted material second time, both versions changed before trying to post second time.

    NO material remaining in post box after this posted. Going for coffee now.

    Chromium Version 52.0.2743.116 Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit)

  35. 35.

    Bob the site tester

    @FlyingToaster: Which plugin do you think? I cannot get the html help to popup today though I know it did yesterday. I’ve even restored the previous version file which worked and now it doesn’t. I’m going mad here trying to figure out why it’s not working, so any clues would be VERY appreciated!

  37. 37.

    Bob the site tester

    @WaterGirl: I will investigate, but I remember reading of some upcoming changes to browsing and the Back button specifically. Prepare yourself(ves) – it’s likely that the back/forward function for browser navigation may be altered. Too many users accidentally going back or forward in forms from what I recall. So improving the experience for many, but making it tougher for a few…

  38. 38.

    Bob the site tester

    @FlyingToaster: Thanks for any and all help. I can’t understand why what worked isn’t now when it’s something as simple and stupid as an HTML button to display text! If I can’t find it soon, I’ll just disable it and figure out something.

  39. 39.

    FlyingToaster

    @Bob the site tester: Greasemonkey!

    I’m sure there’s an update coming, I’ll re-enable when it does.

    In the meantime I’ll have to read the trolls. First World Problems!

    ETA: I have to go bake a cake for WarriorGirl’s 9th Birthday. While the housepainters are taping up my windows and trim :)

  40. 40.

    WaterGirl

    @Bob the site tester: I did not read about that, so I had no idea.

    That would be a really bad trade-off in my opinion – many many people here complained when the back button stopped working before. As I recall, that was the #1 item for many people.

    If that’s the case, this “upgrade” was very poorly thought through.

  42. 42.

    J R in WV

    Tabs appear to be updating to network while completely inactive.

    Typing inhibited while update indicator active. Stands Ad Blocker indicates 457 ads blocked in 15 minutes. Closing Chromium asap, this is horrible. waiting for ora.tv,,,,, asful…

  43. 43.

    Bob the site tester

    @WaterGirl: I didn’t mean to confuse you – that’s not a choice I’m making, nor the theme makers. I’m talking Browsers and standards of functionality. There may be a point next year where that functionality has been altered in one, then many, browsers. Just giving you a warning of what I’ve read/

  45. 45.

    FlyingToaster

    Mac El Capitan
    Firefox 48.0.2
    minus Greasemonkey
    Everything seems to be working except for Basic HTML Tips.
    And the Comment Box is still resizable.

  46. 46.

    Bob the site tester

    @ShadeTail: That’s one that is bizarre. I’ve been researching it and this is a core WordPress function. It should automatically insert anchors when an author does the Read More button but it doesn’t. It’s not the most urgent issue, to be honest, and I’m a little hesitant to wade into WordPress code in fear of causing other harm!

  50. 50.

    FlyingToaster

    @Alain the site fixer: Believe me, we noticed :)

    There seems to be a Greasemonkey script problem on Firefox; when I disabled it, the formatting buttons came back.

    The TrollBGone Greasemonkey script seems to be the problem; use Cleek’s Pie filter instead.

    Time to check the cake!

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    @Bob the site tester: I guess if that happens, I will just have to keep switching browsers until the last one falls to the silly idea that it’s a good idea to change the back button, and by then hopefully the pendulum will have swung back in the right direction with back buttons coming back in at least one browser! :-)

    Just curious, are you with the group that is providing the themes?

  54. 54.

    WaterGirl

    I’m wondering if it would make sense to make a change to the “take me to the top” and “take me to the bottom” arrows. I still can’t seem to remember whether it’s the one on the left or the one on the right that takes me up vs. down.

    What if you moved the “take me to the bottom” arrow to the right side of the screen instead of to the left? Seems like it would be intuitive then… the one at the bottom takes you up, the one at the top takes you down. What do you think?

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    An old request from the last round of changes, submitting again…

    Because a page reload often loses it’s place and leaves you somewhere other than the last comment you have read, I often click the date/time stamp to anchor on the last comment i have read before I click to reload or refresh the page.

    After the previous upgrade, when you click the date/time stamp to anchor, it slides up too far and you can’t see the comment number. Seems like it would be an easy fix.

  58. 58.

    Alain the site fixer

    @WaterGirl: I’ll add this to the list. This will likely need help from theme support folks as the scrolling seems to be handled by their programming and when I meddle, it often has tertiary effects unnoticed until a later mystery is reported, then solved.

  59. 59.

    Alain the site fixer

    @WaterGirl: No. Tommy and I chose the theme based on a week long eval and so I’ve become very knowledgeable about it. I’m self employed.

  60. 60.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    Hello. Chrome on Win10 here. Using Ublock Origin, and Cleek’s pie filter with Greasemonkey.

    Go here to solve all your problems.

    Will try editing in a bit…

    [edit:] HTML brackets show up as brackets again, rather than HTML-ed characters as yesterday. Looks promising!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  62. 62.

    I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet

    @I’mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet: And, of course, editing my original reply puts me in moderation (as usual).

    I guess I’ll have to eventually try a user handle without an apostrophe and see if that’s the problem…

    Thanks for all your efforts, Alain.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  64. 64.

    randy khan

    Here’s a strange one (and probably not even worth fixing):

    When I post from IE (yeah, I know, but it’s what’s on the work computer), my nym often shows up in little tiny letters, small enough that they make me think of Donald Trump’s fingers. I don’t know if anyone else sees it that way, so it may not matter, but it’s odd.

  66. 66.

    Alain the site fixer

    @randy khan: Odd, indeed. I swear I’ve seen the same. What OS? I’ll try in my win 10, but I’ve abandoned older MS OSes.

    ETA: It performed normally for me in Win10/IE.

  70. 70.

    WaterGirl

    @Alain the site fixer: I do see the box with the arrows, but the white arrow is so small that I really see it more as a dot without distinguishing features unless I really look closely.

    Common sense-wise, it just seems like when you are wanting to do an up or down movement, it’s kind of counter-intuitive to have to go left and right in order to implement up or down. Does that make sense? With the way I have suggested, your hand always moves to the right – and then you choose between the arrows that are up and down.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    @Alain the site fixer: I know that. I was trying to ask if he was one of the “these support folks” and just didn’t manage to ask my question clearly. I will try again!

    Is Bob the site tester one of the theme support guys?

  74. 74.

    WaterGirl

    @randy khan: @Alain the site fixer: @Terry the tester:

    When I post from IE (yeah, I know, but it’s what’s on the work computer), my nym often shows up in little tiny letters, small enough that they make me think of Donald Trump’s fingers. I don’t know if anyone else sees it that way, so it may not matter, but it’s odd.

    Alain, I believe Randy is experiencing the same thing I told you about and that you and I tested together during the last round. The nym stays tiny until the 5-minue edit window is over, and then when you reload after that, the nym is the normal size.

  75. 75.

    Alain the site fixer

    @WaterGirl: lol, no Bob is me in a non-logged in browser and Terry is me in another non-logged-in browser. It helps to have multiples…

    I’ll see what I can do on the arrows. The theme came with the down one and with their help I added the up one. I’ll take a look at the CSS and see if I can just switch their positions.

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    @Alain the site fixer:

    lol, no Bob is me in a non-logged in browser and Terry is me in another non-logged-in browser. It helps to have multiples…

    Okay, that makes perfect sense, now that you have explained it.

  78. 78.

    Hafabee

    OK, here’s a new one, it started awhile back, not sure exactly when, I noticed it a week or so ago, but as long as you are mucking around …

    I have BJ in my rss newsreader (newsblur) feed. All posts show up fine except for Cole’s posts — none of them seem to be showing up in the rss feed.

  79. 79.

    Steeplejack

    @WaterGirl:

    No, this is a different thing. I regularly see my nym (and the comment, I think) slightly smaller until the five-minute window elapses. What he’s talking about is the nyms of the addressees in the comment being really tiny, as in classified-ads text size vs. regular news story text size in a dead-tree paper (to use a hoary comparison).

    ETA: On this one just my nym is small—but slightly smaller, not super small.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    @Hafabee: Cole’s posts show up in my RSS feed, which I view in Leaf on my Mac, which is fed by Feedly.

    MacBook Air, Mac OS X, Safari

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    @Steeplejack: Got it. (sort of) What do you mean by “the nyms of the addressees in the comment”?

    To use your comment as an example, which of the items in the block quote would be tiny?

    Steeplejack says:
    September 20, 2016 at 2:38 pm
    @WaterGirl:

    No, this is a different thing. I regularly see my nym (and the comment, I think) slightly smaller until the five-minute window elapses. What he’s talking about is the nyms of the addressees in the comment being really tiny, as in classified-ads text size vs. regular news story text size in a dead-tree paper (to use a hoary comparison).

  83. 83.

    sukabi

    Hi Alain, just lost the mobile version on my android phone…is loading the full site, yikes! Running the default browser..which it says is mozilla 5.0

  85. 85.

    Steeplejack

    @WaterGirl:

    In the example, “WaterGirl” would be extremely tiny. Although, now that I think about it, it seems like it happens when there are two or three addressees. But it is rare, in any case. Not like the “slightly smaller for five minutes” thing, which happens a lot, if not every time.

  89. 89.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @WaterGirl:

    As I said, it’s very rare, and it may happen only with Internet Explorer. I don’t think it warrants “hunt and destroy” at this point.

  92. 92.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Mayhew could/shoulda done that himself. It’s easy to delete the playlist “suffix” from a YouTube link once you grasp the basic structure—which you can see by playing any non-playlist video.

    I know, which is why I would be surprised if there’s no way to do it programmatically. I’m just asking that if there is a way, please turn it on.

    I’ve done too much first-line tech support to expect everyone to remember to do it every time.

  93. 93.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    @WaterGirl:

    I guess if that happens, I will just have to keep switching browsers until the last one falls to the silly idea that it’s a good idea to change the back button

    The only change I’ve heard about is disabling use of Backspace as a keyboard shortcut.

    Which I have been installing extensions to disable ever since I first noticed it.

  94. 94.

    randy khan

    Testing to confirm my recollection that the tiny nym issue does not affect my MacOS 10.9.5/Safari 9.1.3 laptop.

    And I was wrong – it does show up in a tiny font when I post from Safari. So maybe I have some strange setting going on.

  95. 95.

    Percysowner

    Mac OSX 10.11.6 Firefox 45.5.0 I’m not getting the html boxes like bold, italic and link on my comments. Even worse, once I post, I don’t get an edit button.

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