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So Very TIMELY Open Thread: Stop & Frisky Trump

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Of course, it’s not about encouraging African-Americans to vote for Trump; it’s about appealing to his base, the proud outspoken Basket of Deplorables. He’s doubling down on the white nationalists / neo-nazies / LawnOrdure ‘poorly educated’ that Deadbeat Donald loves so much.

Remember when this guy was supposed to be a steadying influence?…

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  3. 3.

    Marcion

    So I signed up to volunteer for the Hillz tonight… are they going to get in touch with me or should I just show up to their office? I’ve never done this before, even when Obama was running, but Trump scares me and if it comes to it, I want to be able to tell my future kids I at least tried to stop him…

  4. 4.

    Keith P.

    Hey, nationwide stop n frisk got a lot of applause. Oh, wait, it was in front of another white Republican crowd. The outreach continues.

  7. 7.

    jl

    Trump minority outreach is more and more transparent attempt to grab White bigot vote.
    As I mentioned earlier today, heard news report that while whomping HRC in White vote, Trump is still only getting a little over 50 percent support. (edit: IIRC roughly 50 to 40, I guess he’s gotta get most of those undecided)
    Needs to get that up.
    So, this vicious nonsense, and a ‘minority outreach’ townhall meeting attended almost entirely by White Trump supporters.

  8. 8.

    Dork

    In a further effort to court the AAs, Trump outlined his plan to keep cops from shooting black motorists by replacing their Tasers with gorilla tranquillizers, using bananas and watermelons to lure them out of their vehicles. For night stops, he’ll mandate that they light a wood plank on fire for better sight, preferably one in the shape of a “T”, and have the cops wear all white, including hats with pointy tips, to improve sighting.

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: They’re officially referred to as a Terry Stop. Its an attempt to add an element of community policing, which makes sense and we have empirical evidence for it working, to broken windows policing, which has no empirical support for efficacy, is not based on any criminological theory, and is simply a culture war argument. The idea is that all parts of a jurisdiction will have significant numbers of policing personnel on foot in the community and they have the power to stop anyone, at any time, to ask them basic questions and to perform basic searches without any real probably cause and with no warrants for weapons without permits/prohibited weapons, drugs, etc. Basically it turns community policing and the attempt to weave law enforcement into the life – the warp and weft – of the community into an adversarial set of confrontations between police on patrol and the citizenry at all times.

  10. 10.

    hovercraft

    @Keith P.:
    1 – It’s unconstitutional
    2 – It plays into white peoples fear
    3 – It doesn’t work
    So it fits in perfectly with all of the Trump proposals so far. Build the wall, torture, carpet bomb ISIS, spy on muslims, profile blacks, hispanics, and muslims.
    If it doesn’t work, and endangers our country while antagonizing non white people, Trump is for it.

  11. 11.

    jl

    @Dork: Only plan I heard from Trump on how to solve the problem is to remove officers unfit for their job after they identify themselves by an unjustified shooting of a black guy.

  15. 15.

    Elizabelle

    State of Emergency declared by McCrory (who used to be mayor of Charlotte, do recall). May he be a short-timer as governor.

  16. 16.

    srv

    It would not be that hard to fix the Constitutionality issue if it was just expanded to cover latinos, muslims and maybe hippies. So not racist.

  22. 22.

    Ruckus

    I keep telling everyone that Donnie is a stone racist and has been since at least he was a late teen. He isn’t doing this crap to appeal to his support, he really believes all of this crap. Every last bit.
    ETA And that is one of his endearing qualities.

  25. 25.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: Possibly. I do have (poor) internet though. It feels like the first time I’ve heard that phrase and y’all make it seem like it’s a long standing thing.

    In other news, I am under attack by field mice.

  26. 26.

    hovercraft

    @redshirt:
    Think SB 1070 but for black and brown people. From Wikipedia

    The Stop-question-and-frisk program, or stop-and-frisk, in New York City, is a practice of the New York City Police Department in which police officers stop and question a pedestrian, then frisk them for weapons and other contraband; this is what is known in other places in the United States as the Terry stop. The rules for stop, question, and frisk are found in the state’s criminal procedure law section 140.50, and are based on the decision of the United States Supreme Court in the case of Terry v. Ohio.[1][2] About 684,000 people were stopped in 2011,[1][3][4] however the number of stops has been reduced dramatically since then, to 22,939 in 2015.[3] The vast majority of those stopped were African-American or Latino,[1][3][4] a disparity which, according to a 2007 study, persists even after controlling for “precinct variability and race-specific estimates of crime participation.”[5]

    The program peaked in 2011 with over 700,000 stops and over 90% found nothing. Basically it was legalized racial profiling. They stopped more POC even though more weapons and contraband were found on whites year after year after year.

  27. 27.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Adam L Silverman: The original purpose of a Terry stop was to allow LE to pat someone down for a weapon in a situation where the LEO felt him/herself to be at risk but not do a full-on search. Theoretically, someone with a couple of joints in his pocket wasn’t in danger of arrest based on a Terry stop. In reality, especially as used now, it gives cops the ability to fuck with black men at will. Me, I think that the original Terry stops were a Fourth Amendment violation.

  29. 29.

    pseudonymous in nc

    Proposing a racist police state for African-Americans’ own good, on top of a racist welfare state for white people. That’s some genuinely evil shit.

  31. 31.

    LAO

    @Adam L Silverman: I’m not quibbling with your description of the practical reality of Terry stops, I just note for the record that the standard for a Terry stop is “a reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal activity”. That is, of course, defined so loosely, as to be rendered moot.

  34. 34.

    Elizabelle

    “Destruction and anarchy.” spoken by Pat McCrory.

    But isn’t that kind of the end result of Art Pope’s legislative agenda?

  37. 37.

    different-church-lady

    Trump’s townhall w/ Hannity on African American issues is now the most ridiculous thing to happen in this election.

    Not if you understand that for a lot of sad, sick people in this country “African American Issues” means “What the hell are we going to do about the black menace?” It has utterly nothing to do with what actual African Americans think.

  41. 41.

    hovercraft

    @Mike J:
    As many pointed out in one of the threads downstairs he is not capable of passing a civics test let alone the citizenship test. This is the man who thinks that even though he would like to abolish the EPA, somehow he would be able to prevent the Flint water crisis. Apparently no one has taken the time to point out to him that the president has a great deal of power in matters pertaining to foreign affairs, but almost none domestically. He seems to believe that state and local officials are just unnecessary window dressing.

  42. 42.

    different-church-lady

    @LAO:

    I just note for the record that the standard for a Terry stop is “a reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal activity”.

    TRUMP: “These people are black! How the hell much more articulate do I need to be?”

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    Body cam photography.

    The constitutional rights of the police officers? Which rights would that be?

    Seriously, NC is pretty hinky about releasing police body cam.

    Now McCrory has to get back to work. Maybe Sean Hannity’s calling him.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    @LAO: No argument here. As with O2’s reply – I was providing a non legal/lawyerly, practical explanation. I appreciate you both clarifying for everyone.

  49. 49.

    Peale

    @Mike J: Well since he threatened to cut off federal funds to “sanctuary cities”, I’m sure he’d think of a way to cut them off to cities that didn’t have the right African American Harassment policies in place as well.

  51. 51.

    hovercraft

    @redshirt:
    WTF.
    Okay you are way out in Misery country, I can’t imagine living way out there. Gia bless you. I need my creature comforts, I need my Dunkin and my bodega a couple of blocks away. I feel being 30 miles from the City I’m pretty far out.

  53. 53.

    different-church-lady

    Fuck Trump. Wants to deport people but won’t lift a finger against the flavored spirits menace.

  54. 54.

    Aleta

    @redshirt: @Aleta:
    4 paragraphs taken from the article above by Greenberg:

    The stop-and-frisk tactic that was heavily employed during the Bloomberg administration is an example of the logic of the broken windows theory taken to an extreme: beat cops were told to dispense with the pretense of minor infractions to identify suspects; simply being on the street became sufficient cause for a frisk, and then a search, to take place. Eighty-seven percent of those stopped were black or Hispanic.
    …
    In 2011, two years before Judge Shira Scheindlin of the US District Court ruled that stop and frisk was a form of “indirect racial profiling” and that it violated the Constitution’s equal protection clause, more than 50,000 New Yorkers were arrested for “displaying” tiny amounts of pot.
    …
    The paradox is that high-crime neighborhoods make young people vulnerable to violence, but a police policy of zero tolerance in those neighborhoods makes them vulnerable to police arrogance and unnecessary incarceration. They are squeezed from two sides.
    …
    The inequity is glaring. With the aim of maintaining order in poor, high-crime neighborhoods, police saddle thousands of young men with criminal records for an offense that the state has largely decriminalized and that white people regularly commit with impunity. Penalties imposed by the courts for possession are usually minimal—dismissal of the case after six months if the person has no further run-in with the law—but the damage can still be considerable, taking the form of rejected job and housing applications or being banned from joining the military and attending certain colleges.

  56. 56.

    lamh36

    @JM_Ashby 2m2 minutes ago
    McCrory is about to toss millions of dollars down the misgendered toilet with his blundering response, Guard will arrive and do nothing

    Trying to look good in the eyes of those white surburban NC people, who are upset by the possibility of police brutality/discrimination against Blacks, but who don’t want those folks out on the streets to get too rowdy.

  57. 57.

    Lizzy L

    Someone should ask Trump what he thinks will happen if local LE tries to apply stop and frisk practices in an open carry state. As, for example, in Missouri, where the Republican legislature overrode their governor’s veto 5 days ago and enacted a law which lets citizens

    carry concealed weapons in public without a state gun permit, criminal background check or firearms training. It strips local law enforcement of its current authority to deny firearms to those guilty of domestic violence and to other high-risk individuals. And it … allows gun owners to shoot and claim self-defense based on their own sense of feeling threatened.

    (NYT)

    That’ll go well, don’t you think?

    Of course, as all Trump supporters know,Trump’s idea of stop-and-frisk only applies to African Americans, Latinos, Muslims, and other scary people. No way can it apply to white people. Right?

  59. 59.

    hovercraft

    @lamh36:
    Hannity used to claim he was a conservative, but now that he’s appearing in Trump commercials he is officially part of the the RNC effort to elect rethugs, so he;s doing his bit to boost McCrory.

  61. 61.

    Peale

    @different-church-lady: Yep. You could pretty much guarantee that if referendums could be had on whether African Americans had too many special rights and how to address the problem of having too many special rights, whites would vote to limit those rights every time. And that’s really what Trump is saying to his white voters – he, unlike Obama, represents the real America and he’ll make sure that the force of government is used to remove as much dignity and freedom to those who his voters don’t think are part of real America.

    But its not racist. How could you say that!

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Adam L Silverman: If I am going out to get the ingredients for that, I may as well just get a bottle of regular brandy. In any case, I’ll save this shit to pour over ice cream.

  64. 64.

    hovercraft

    @sigaba:
    And vodka, what the hell did vodka do to deserve all the travesties being done to it. If you must add flavor do not contaminate the bottle itself!

  68. 68.

    different-church-lady

    @sigaba: Ah, you joke. But in truth all this flavored crap started off as a way for distillers to get rid of their sub-par product. And the Brandy producers were at the top of the curve — all the exotic flavored liquors that flooded the market in the early 21st century were basically brandy that didn’t make the cut with stuff added to it.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Lizzy L: This became an issue during the debate last year in Texas on permitted Open Carry (meaning if you have a concealed weapons license in Texas you may also, where permitted, open carry). One of the Democratic legislators proposed an amendment to make open carrying not a precursor for a stop by police. He was concerned, because his district is largely African American and Latino/Hispanic, that should any of his constituents choose to open carry it would provide the reason for police to stop someone when they’d have no other reason to do so. The amendment was stripped from the final bill:
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/05/robert-farago/tx-senate-strips-stop-n-frisk-protection-from-open-carry-bill/

    “A Senate committee on Monday approved an open carry bill that had been stripped of a House amendment seeking to ban police stops to check for concealed handgun licenses,” statesman.com reports. “The amendment was added on the House floor last month by Rep. Harold Dutton, D-Houston, who said police have no business stopping citizens engaged in a legal activity. ‘We don’t let the police stop every car just to figure out who does and who doesn’t have a driver’s license,’ Dutton said. ‘I think the same principle applies here.’” Well yes. Yes it does . . .

  72. 72.

    hovercraft

    @Thing Three:
    If the cop found you or your behavior ‘suspicious’ they could make you take off your shoes, and if you were really ‘suspicious’ they could haul you into a station and do a full search. The results were still the same 87% had nothing. There were people involved in the lawsuit who had been stopped 30 times in two years or something. Ut was ridiculous.

  76. 76.

    trollhattan

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Aw shit, they released the Dale Earnhardt krakkan. How many times do we need to have this conversation: DO NOT FUCK WITH THE DALE ERNHARDT KRAKKAN!

    Y’all should go home now.

  77. 77.

    redshirt

    @trollhattan: I’ve lived in Boston and seen the Starbucks viewable from the other Starbucks viewable from another Starbucks phenomena. It’s impressive.

    Serious Starbucks question: If I order a normal hot coffee, the barista who takes my order and my money pours it for me and I’m done. If I order a normal iced coffee, I’ve got to wait with the “triple macchiato double latte with a shot of espresso” crowd. What’s up with that? Pouring an iced coffee is only one step more difficult than pouring a hot coffee, and that extra step is adding ice.

  78. 78.

    Hill Dweller

    @Adam L Silverman: Dale Earnhardt Jr also has a popular bar/restaurant/night club in the Epicenter. He is royalty in that area. Hell, they call him Redneck Jesus. If they loot his place, especially with him being pretty tight with the African-American community throughout his career(to the dismay of some in Nascar), it’s going to ratchet up the calls for retribution.

  79. 79.

    redshirt

    Does anyone here watch Survivor?

    After watching religiously for 12 years, I’ve not watched for the last 4, but I caught tonight’s premiere. Still love it!

  80. 80.

    Adam L Silverman

    @trollhattan: I sensed a great disturbance in the Force. As if thousands of pale men wearing dirty wife beaters with Confederate Naval Ensigns on their full sized pick up trucks cried out in anguish and were gone.

  81. 81.

    different-church-lady

    I’ve lived in Boston and seen the Starbucks viewable from the other Starbucks viewable from another Starbucks phenomena. It’s impressive.

    I lived in Somerville many years, during the early phases of the Assembly Square battles. Back then the people who owned the property were very very adamant that the only thing they could do is tear down the existing Home Depot and build a lager one because it was too small.

    Behind the Home Depot that was too small, just across the Mystic River, there was another Home Depot in Everett.

    If you stood in the parking lot of the Home Depot in Everett you could see the Home Depot in Somerville.

  83. 83.

    Feathers

    Timely ruling in Massachusetts:

    Black men who try to avoid an encounter with Boston police by fleeing may have a legitimate reason to do so — and should not be deemed suspicious — according to a ruling by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.

    Link

  87. 87.

    Peale

    @Adam L Silverman: a museum is a museum, I suppose. I don’t like them being destroyed. It’s someone’s collection of things, and I appreciate collectors of things that might otherwise be discarded.

  93. 93.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    New York City was incredible, the way that worked.

    God, Trump is a completely inarticulate buffoon. A buffoon who is one election away from the presidency.

    We need to make sure that Clinton not only wins but crushes him so that he and his despicable movement are thoroughly discredited.

  94. 94.

    Lyrebird

    @Ruckus: I wouldn’t know about his youth — I was mercifully ignorant of this deplorable candidate for a long time– , but his jaw-dropping condescencion sure comes naturally to him. Did you see the Congressional Black Caucus press conference video? One of the Reps, a woman but not Jackson-Lee, said something like that this election is a referendum on bigotry. Another Rep. called him “a two-bit racial arsonist.” And his trying-to-make-Nazism-acceptable son makes “jokes” about Skittles. RIP young Trayvon… may we honor your memory and keep these creeps away from the White House!

    (Maybe I shoulda just said “Ruckus! Speak!” and left it at that…)

  95. 95.

    Bobby Thomson

    @redshirt: I thought the Cranes moved to Seattle.

    If it’s ice brewed coffee it’s different coffee. If it’s just the regular coffee where they charge you an extra 50 cents to a dollar to add ice, well, that’s Starbucks being Starbucks – which is why I get gas station coffee.

  96. 96.

    different-church-lady

    @redshirt:

    @different-church-lady: What are your thoughts on Assembly Square now? Have you seen it recently?

    Only from a distance. I was shocked by how big one of the condo buildings is.

    I was very glad the city wrestled the first owners to the ground — basically just wore them down until they gave up. Very happy it wound up being a mixed-use area, and kudos to the two mayors who held fast on that. But from the renderings I’ve seen I worry that it’s going to be a bit bland and soulless and commercial.

    Have you been to the “Seaport District” lately? I wind up down there a lot for work, and it’s stunning how bland, overwheming and strange it seems — like it has no connection to the rest of Boston at all. Even the people who go there and live there don’t seem to have anything to do with the rest of the population.

  98. 98.

    hovercraft

    @redshirt:
    I know I just don’t drink coffee, but I have those nearby too, the closest one is about four miles, Dunkin is a five minute walk.

  99. 99.

    pseudonymous in nc

    The thing about uptown (aka downtown) Charlotte is that it’s weirdly dead space: hotels and chain restaurants and clubs and convention stuff and office towers, but because everybody commutes and everybody drives, you can walk down blocks and barely see another pedestrian.

    Clearly there were some agitators in the crowds tonight (including people who picked up fireworks just over the state line in SC) but it also feels like the SWAT and riot gear was put on standby to protect property, which is a sign of priorities.

  101. 101.

    Nom de Plume

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    OT: Accidentally bought a bottle vanilla instead plain brandy today.

    There is such a thing as vanilla brandy? I am not by any means an alcohol snob, but that is just an abomination.

  102. 102.

    redshirt

    @Bobby Thomson: I believe just ordering a regular iced coffee gets you sent to the specialist barrista line – big delays – whereas a regular hot coffee is served by the person who takes your order and your money. It’s an outrage towards iced coffee drinkers. But then, Starbucks iced coffee IS an outrage – have you seen how much coffee you actually get? I ordered a cold brew yesterday. Maybe 1/3 was coffee, then they poured another 1/3 of water, then the rest ice. $4.65 or something.

    Glad I was expensing.

  110. 110.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Omnes Omnibus: OT: just sent you an email. A unique response to that MA Supreme Court ruling about running from police and probable cause. Thought you’d appreciate it.

  112. 112.

    redshirt

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’m hopelessly addicted. If I don’t drink coffee (or consume caffeine in some form) every day, I get flu-like sick in short order. It’s a real addiction.

    I have cut back massively in the last few years, but there’s still a lot of caffeine.

  113. 113.

    Frankensteinbeck

    it’s not about encouraging African-Americans to vote for Trump; it’s about appealing to his base

    Do not ever underestimate how much racists think the Other is inferior. Trump almost certainly believes his policies will reduce black crime, and so every black person who thinks and is honest about black problems will support him. The same with denying welfare. I have lived with these people most of my life. They BELIEVE it. They think blacks don’t support these sensible policies because of laziness and a desire to commit crimes. The hate is tied to cruel stereotypes.

  114. 114.

    divF

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: When I was young, someone much older than me told me that aging involves the successive renunciation of each of life’s pleasures. I’ve now reached a point where I know what he meant.

    I’m hoping to hold off on renouncing coffee for a while longer yet.

  120. 120.

    redshirt

    @different-church-lady: People actually live in the Seaport District?!

    I find Assembly Square amazing/awesome/emblematic of 2016 American economy. You should visit – it has its own Orange Line subway stop – think of that! A new subway stop in Boston. It feels like a rich theme park with tons of apartments and condos. There’s stores and cafes and restaurants on the first floors, then living space everywhere else – a new neighborhood since it should be able to house like tens of thousands of people.

    There’s park space along the river, and plenty of internal space on the sidewalks. It’s fun.

    But just a part in an overall boom. Cambridge is booming – my last company got kicked out of the Kendall Sq area because some rich players had apparently taken over all the land. Go there now and see gleaming massive buildings, huge campuses of drug companies.

    Boston is booming. My old Fenway neighborhood has been totally transformed since I last lived there – 2007. Gleaming skyscrapers everywhere. The South End has luxury condo towers going up everywhere. Back Bay Prudential area has several new towers going up. South Boston has been transformed along the waterfront.

    Whereas in my current town, trailers burn down and are left abandoned as charred husks along the potholed road. There’s an intersection I drive through with 3 out of the 4 houses on the intersection abandoned. There are no cranes here.

  125. 125.

    different-church-lady

    @
    redshirt    :

    People actually live in the Seaport District?!

    Somebody must be buying all those condos.

    Neighborhood texture takes time to develop. I think Assembly has some hope for that, due to the way they laid things out — it might be corporate, but the retail on the ground floor/residences above is a classic urban neighborhood scheme.

    Seaport I’m very doubtful about. It’s just a playground for rich visitors, convention goers, and new young money. Every building stands on its own. There’s no real shopping. The only businesses are restaurants that cater to the convention/hotel crowd. There’s not even any space allocated anywhere for smaller outlets of any kind.

    The Fenway and Back Bay already have texture to spare, and the new buildings aren’t going to bury it.

  129. 129.

    workworkwork

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Disagree. Diet Mountain Dew has both caffeine AND orange juice. Truly the ideal breakfast beverage.

    Of course, you have to get past the fact that it tastes like neon battery acid….

  134. 134.

    scav

    @Major Major Major Major: “Moderate” would also be hard to catch in this permanently snark tag enabled environment. I can almost see positive, if the recipe and pet threads are included. Walter alone would warp the ratings in one direction.

  136. 136.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @efgoldman: In the the Mid-West the really tall building is the Sears Tower and, for those who really care, It is the Congress not the Eisenhower.

  137. 137.

    different-church-lady

    @efgoldman: I am completely fascinated by what Sullivan Square was like back when there was an actual square there. I used to always wonder why it was even a place with a name. Didn’t understand it until I saw an old map of what it looked like before they tore it all down and drove an overpass through it and paved everything else.

    I think I have very vague memories of the Charlestown Elevated. I do definitely remember going through North Station to school in the 80s and seeing the the decommissioned elevated Orange Line platform, and wondering what it was all about.

  140. 140.

    different-church-lady

    @efgoldman: Or, perhaps, no urban planning. It’s like there was no thought put into it at all, other than, “Yes, please, go ahead and put up large buildings on this former massive rail yard.” They seem to have cared about what went along the waterfront (ICA, Courthouse, park) but put no thought into what the parking lots would become.

    The silver lining is that it seems to have a spill-over effect onto the Congress Street area. Much more life there than there used to be.

  144. 144.

    Anne Laurie

    @LAO:

    I just note for the record that the standard for a Terry stop is “a reasonable and articulable suspicion of criminal activity”. That is, of course, defined so loosely, as to be rendered moot.

    I have seen it argued by vicious racists and Trump supporters (but I repeat myself) that the cessation of ‘stop & frisk’ led directly to what they believe is the recent outburst of police shooting black people. Because now that Our Defenders in Blue can’t check every obvious felon’s underwear for PCP vials, they are never sure that the wrong element isn’t about to leap out of the alley and murder us all in our beds.

    Obviously, if Tamir Rice lived in a stop&frisk community, he’d have known better than to play in the park with a toy pistol… but even if he hadn’t, then the poor cop who “had” to shoot him wouldn’t have felt so insecure as to fire on sight & let him bleed out afterwards. That’s just logic, hippie liberal!

  146. 146.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @normal liberal: What is the purpose of my brandy? Making a couple of drinks. What ever else I can do with it, it is unsuitable for the purpose for which i purchased it.

  148. 148.

    TheMightyTrowel

    @efgoldman: one of my cousins just bought a flat in Mission Hill and her (deeply conservative, suburb dwelling) mom is not freaked out. I’m only 33, but when I was a teen in Boston, Mission Hill wasn’t where good white suburban girls went looking for property.

  150. 150.

    Applejinx

    @efgoldman: The creepy part is what’s happening to London: all that plus absentee property owners means it becomes a ghost town. Only capital lives there.

    It’s fascinating and horrible all at the same time. I think the end game there is actually Detroit. The gentrified stuff looks pristine now, but it exists in a human context and capital is not forever. And when you abandon that fancy high-rise stuff, you get a Blade Runner industrial wasteland.

  152. 152.

    tarragon

    @redshirt: @redshirt:

    I ordered a cold brew yesterday. Maybe 1/3 was coffee, then they poured another 1/3 of water, then the rest ice. $4.65 or something.

    Cold brew is something different. Who the hell knows how Starbucks does it, but done right it’s a lot of grounds brewed at room temp for 12-24 hours. You need to dilute it because it’s crazy strong and thick.

    It’s expensive because it’s a crazy amount of grounds for the resulting coffee. It’s extra expensive because it’s Starbucks.

    At home I do 165 grams grounds and 650 grams water in a quart jar for 24 hours. I get around 2 cups of results that I drink as 1 part cold brew to 3 parts water.

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    Aleta

    @efgoldman: I’ve been trying to track down a documentary about the “development,” that is eviction, of a part of Boston, perhaps in the early 80s. (Dorchester? somewhere in South Boston? not sure.) I think it was an old Portuguese neighborhood, mixed with other ethnicities. My memory is that a highway was also going to be built through the neighborhood. The filmmaker was involved with the resistance as well as documenting. He was a local resident, taught film at a local college or university, has since died. He used people in the neighborhood on his crew.

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    Sergio Lopez-Luna

    What bothered me the most was the question itself. The premise was that Black People are very prone to violence and criminality and that something must be done to contain them.

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