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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2016 / We Might Actually Get to Debate Question #2 Some Time Tonight Open Thread

We Might Actually Get to Debate Question #2 Some Time Tonight Open Thread

by Adam L Silverman|  September 26, 20169:30 pm| 111 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    Donald’s all about the wealthy. Strange answer.

  2. 2.

    debit

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Repeating from below: It’s like my crazy uncle Myron is here in the living room with me.

  3. 3.

    schrodinger's cat

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    What did I miss?

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Lester Holt: “The IRS said you can release your taxes despite the audit”
    Trump: “I’m not releasing my taxes because of the audit”

  5. 5.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @debit: Repeating from below: “we can make that happen for you!”

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Thanks, Adam! That was getting crowded down there.

  7. 7.

    debit

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Oh jesus.

  8. 8.

    PsiFighter37

    September 26, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    Oh shit, Holt FACT-CHECKED Trump. No way!

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    September 26, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Roughly 3 million Trump lies.

  10. 10.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    Hillary has put on her “Benghazi hearings” face.

  11. 11.

    Anoniminous

    September 26, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    Clinton was +15 with women going into the debate, I’m going to guess she’ll be +20 at the end. Also she’ll get the 2 to 3% of True Moderates still left.

    ETA: she’s killing him

  12. 12.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Sweaty upper lip.

  13. 13.

    debit

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Good, ignore the email bait and attack, attack, attack!!

  14. 14.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Trumped up trickle down makes its second appearance.

  15. 15.

    Corner Stone

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    BOOM! BITCHES!!

  16. 16.

    Baud

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Holy cow!

  17. 17.

    Amir Khalid

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    I’m not watching live, but from the Graun’s liveblog it appears that Trump is flailing, and making a mess of things. Is that about right?

  18. 18.

    Skerry

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Emails!

  19. 19.

    different-church-lady

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Did she brush off her shoulder yet?

  20. 20.

    PsiFighter37

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    Oh man, Clinton is lighting a lot of fires under Trump right now.

  21. 21.

    Corner Stone

    September 26, 2016 at 9:35 pm

    That makes me smart.

    WTF fucking fuck?

  22. 22.

    Mike J

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Patton Oswalt ‏@pattonoswalt 7 minutes ago
    This is Trump in the face of a calm, intelligent woman — shrieking and flailing in thimbledick-compensating panic. #Debates2016

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    She fucking went there on the tax returns.

  24. 24.

    Yet another jeff

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Donald: It’s smart to not pay taxes…

  25. 25.

    debit

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Hillary is giving me orgasms right now.

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    Missing emails! Drink!

  27. 27.

    Anoniminous

    September 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Yes

  28. 28.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    Tax returns Q from Lester. The “I’m under audit” nonresponse.

  29. 29.

    Mart

    September 26, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    Could not stand to watch, tried the radio. Blood started spurting out of my eyes. Back to golden oldies on the radio, as I don’t want to die from the stress. Based on wife’s observation, hopefully he is putting a fork in suburban woman; as she just had a word salad of her own – disgusting, obnoxious, rude fuck head, etc.

  30. 30.

    anonymous

    September 26, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    “that makes me smart” I haven’t laughed so hard in months.

  31. 31.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Mart: Megyn Kelly is that you?

  32. 32.

    Corner Stone

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Fucking meltdown.

  33. 33.

    Mnemosyne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Wow, Trump just can’t stop himself from interrupting, can he?

    And the “he’s not as rich as he claims” really got his goat.

  34. 34.

    Helen

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Corner Stone: That’s gonna come back and bite him in the ass.

  35. 35.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I was saying this to someone yesterday. A Trump supporter hearing the “charge” that Trump might not pay any taxes thinks “Good! I want to pay no taxes also!”

    They’re all like Trump University students, thinking he’ll show them how to be a rich player like him.

  36. 36.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Bigly.

  37. 37.

    Yet another jeff

    September 26, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    Braggadocious!

  38. 38.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    Lester: The public’s right to know does not outweigh your personal ….

    Trump jumps in.

    Lester is doing well, methinks.

    FFS: Trump will release tax returns when HRC releases emails. Applause. Ridiculous.

  39. 39.

    different-church-lady

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    When does she deploy the Putin bromance?

  40. 40.

    aliasofwestgate

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    She’s taking him apart without effort.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Roughly 3 million Trump lies.

    So the frequency (well, period I guess) has decrease from 3 min 15 seconds (per Politico) to 3.15 milliseconds? It takes a special kind of candidate to up his game like that.

  42. 42.

    Suzanne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    Is Trump high? All the sniffing leads me to think he snorted some coke before coming out on stage?

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I think she’s holding that for exactly the right moment. And there is no doubt whatsoever that that moment will present itself.

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    The people I’m watching this with didn’t believe at first that he said “bigly.”

  45. 45.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    Hillary lowers the boom with some very solid reasons Trump may not have released his tax records.

  46. 46.

    PsiFighter37

    September 26, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    About to rip him a new one on his businesses. Here we GO!

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @Suzanne:

    His ever-so-believable physician, like the Magic 8-Ball, says “NO!”

  48. 48.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    September 26, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    He’s furiously tossing out decoy devices to try to avoid the torpedo about him hiding something in his taxes.

  49. 49.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Who is keeping us from rebuilding our roads, airports, bridges Donald? Not Barack Obama, Not Hillary.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    September 26, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Let’s talk about your business.

  51. 51.

    Elizabelle

    September 26, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    Re not paying taxes: Trump: “that makes me smart.”

    OK. So all us middle class peeps should pay since the Donalds of the world are too smart to pay taxes.

    “There is something he’s hiding.”

  52. 52.

    gogol's wife

    September 26, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    The Guardian is really annoying. I’m sticking to you guys.

  53. 53.

    SFAW

    September 26, 2016 at 9:41 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Megyn Kelly is that you?

    “Eyes,” not “her whatever.”

    Good try, however.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    She is BRINGING IT on people that Donald has bankrupted.

  55. 55.

    Uncle Jeffy

    September 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @dmsilev: @dmsilev – so will Lester Holt fact-check himself? Inquiring minds want to know.

  56. 56.

    Belafon

    September 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    If you haven’t seen it, Trump did tweet that climate change was a hoax started by the Chinese, but his campaign deleted the tweet after Clinton brought it up. Luckily, lot’s of people copied it:

    twitter.com/harlanhaskins/status/780577777644961792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

  57. 57.

    different-church-lady

    September 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    The Guardian is really annoying.

    You’re just now figuring this out?

  58. 58.

    PsiFighter37

    September 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    Trump: “Just words.”

    The dude is going to lose the fuck out of opinion polls on this debate.

  59. 59.

    amygdala

    September 26, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    Sully is liveblogging it, if anyone’s interested.

  60. 60.

    amk

    September 26, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    He is fucking plugging his fucking DC hotel again.

  61. 61.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    @amygdala: Why?

  62. 62.

    eclare

    September 26, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Suzanne: I noticed the sniffling too…don’t remember that from before, but I haven’t watched much.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @amygdala:

    Not really, but thanks. I’ll stick with Balloon Juice.

  64. 64.

    Schlemazel

    September 26, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @amygdala:
    fuck sully

    That is all

  65. 65.

    jayboat

    September 26, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    More sniffling, with a little back-drip…
    The back of his throat is tightening- you can hear the change in his voice.

    I lived through the 80s.

  66. 66.

    Mart

    September 26, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    @Suzanne: Obviously has cancer related sniffles, he won’t last past 2017. This is not speculation, my great great grandfather was a doctor.

  67. 67.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    September 26, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @amygdala: You’re reading Sully? Do you need to see one of those docs who often take the same boards as you did, and whose specialty is combining with yours at many med schools? I’m worried about you.

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @eclare:

    I’ve seen other commenters refer to it (during some of his speeches), but had never really noticed it until tonight. It’s impossible to ignore.

  69. 69.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    @jayboat:

    The back of his throat is tightening- you can hear the change in his voice.

    He has pneumonia. Bigly.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    Did he say “bigly” or “big-league”?

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    LAWNORDURE!

  72. 72.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    HRC: “Respect for law, respect by law”

    DJT: “Hillary won’t say the word law”

  73. 73.

    jayboat

    September 26, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I hope Hillary gave it to him.

  74. 74.

    different-church-lady

    September 26, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    Going by Sully’s reaction, she’s Alpha-Dogging him something fierce. Wonder what the rest of the country will see.

  75. 75.

    Renie

    September 26, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    Holt is fact checking and Trump says he is wrong.

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    September 26, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Is Trump high? All the sniffing leads me to think he snorted some coke before coming out on stage?

    It’s probably because his BP is so low. Hopefully-soon-to-be-defrocked “Dr.” Bornstein says it’s 116/70. Which probably means that if he were not overweight — never mind Obese, as he currently is — his BP would probably be about 85/55 or some such.

    Is there ANYTHING about Trump — that COMES from Trump or his minions — that isn’t a lie?

  77. 77.

    psycholinguist

    September 26, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    it went before a judge, who was a very….against police judge…..

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    @jayboat:

    Maybe she coughed on her hand before shaking with Donald.

    One can hope.

  79. 79.

    SFAW

    September 26, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    @Mart:

    Good enough for me.

    ETA: Meaning your great great GF’s credenza.

  80. 80.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    Holt: “Stop and frisk was declared unconstitutional.

    DJT: “No. You’re wrong.”

  81. 81.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:50 pm

    What happened to the split screen?

  82. 82.

    amygdala

    September 26, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s pretty funny, actually. First of all, his heart clearly isn’t in it. Second, he’s having to be positive about Hillary, which he’s not tolerating well.

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    @amygdala: Okay, so you’re doing it for comedic value.

  84. 84.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    Bring it, Hilz!

  85. 85.

    amygdala

    September 26, 2016 at 9:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’m watching CSPAN online & it’s still split-screen there.

  86. 86.

    Miss Bianca

    September 26, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Hic! : )

  87. 87.

    amygdala

    September 26, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    @amygdala: Okay, so you’re doing it for comedic value.

    Is there another reason to read Sully?

  88. 88.

    DCrefugee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    He sighed! “Al Gore, please pick up the white courtesy phone nearest you for an important message.”

  89. 89.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 26, 2016 at 9:53 pm

    Fvcking Bloomberg says Rump “dominated” HRC in the first segment.

  90. 90.

    misterpuff

    September 26, 2016 at 9:54 pm

    Hillary just quotes stat that Black dope smokers jailed three times more than white potheads WITHOUT mentioning marijuana or the stupid drug war,

  91. 91.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @amygdala:

    It wasn’t for long. Less than a minute.

  92. 92.

    different-church-lady

    September 26, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    @misterpuff: 40% OF AMERICA: “Well duh! It ought to be eighteen times more!”

  93. 93.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Moderation. Don’t want to get alcohol poisoning…

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 9:58 pm

    @amygdala: Since I don’t read Sully and have never read Sully I wouldn’t know.

  95. 95.

    amk

    September 26, 2016 at 9:59 pm

    stop and frisk.

    african american community has been let down by politicians.

    rinse, repeat.

    the fucker didn’t prepare, did he?

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @amk: He went to hooters:
    twitter.com/stuartpstevens/status/780022358077603840

  97. 97.

    Renie

    September 26, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    I can’t believe trump said “I say nothing” when asked what he would say to AA about why he pushed birtherism.

  98. 98.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Birtherism: Drink!
    (except Miss Bianca – you’re on a time out this round…)

  99. 99.

    DCrefugee

    September 26, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    Wow, Holt is pressing him on Birthergate, and he invokes Sidney Blumenthal…

  100. 100.

    DCrefugee

    September 26, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    So far, Holt has done a decent job… So far…

  101. 101.

    amygdala

    September 26, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: In fairness to Sully, he did good work with marriage equality and torture as policy.

  102. 102.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    September 26, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    @amygdala: One of which was personal for him, so of course he supported it. Things that affect only others, not always good work, torture as policy being an outlier, imo. I’m a tad worried about you…

  103. 103.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 26, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    “We never admitted guilt”

  104. 104.

    Miss Bianca

    September 26, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Naaaahhh….he’sh ringing all my bells…

    jush for you, Adam…cuz I know how much you *loooove* musicals…

    ETA: Actually, there isn’t enough liquor in the house to play a “Trump debate drinking game” properly…

  105. 105.

    Renie

    September 26, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    NYPD stated Trump is wrong on stop and frisk

  106. 106.

    psycholinguist

    September 26, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    i know a 10 year old, he’s great with computers, very, very great…… it’s tough Lester, it’s tough.. (Yes, it is isn’t it Donald)

  107. 107.

    psycholinguist

    September 26, 2016 at 10:19 pm

    good god, it’s just word salad all the time now.

  108. 108.

    rikyrah

    September 26, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Suzanne: I read other tweets about the sniffles.

  109. 109.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 26, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    Temperament: Drink!
    (Miss Bianca still sits out this round to avoid alcohol poisoning)

  110. 110.

    Uncle Jeffy

    September 26, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @DCrefugee: Lester Holt needed to grow a spine and say “Mr. Trump, the next time you interrupt her I’m switching your mike off until she finishes.” I know, I know – I can dream, can’t I?

  111. 111.

    Donna Mladjan

    September 26, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @psycholinguist: most 10 year olds are great, really great with computers.

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