One of the most interesting early 1980s movie music videos with fight scenes shot in Chicago’s Loop.
by Adam L Silverman| 76 Comments
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One of the most interesting early 1980s movie music videos with fight scenes shot in Chicago’s Loop.
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redshirt
Yes, a music thread!
sunny raines
When Evil’s at The Door
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XhK_8eRrcM
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Wrong URL. I fixed it so its the right video.
AxelFoley
Love Streets of Fire. It’s one of those 80s flicks I can watch anytime it comes on TV. I’m gonna check and see if it’s on Netflix when I get off work.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: I’m tracking.
khead
I can dream about you.
James E Powell
Very hard to top Eddie and the Cruisers.
Adam L Silverman
I’m off to rub doggie bellies! And then to sleep.
Mnemosyne
So, wait, is this Good Music from Bad 1980s Movies, or Bad Music from Good 1980s Movies?
There’s not an actual video, but I think Omnes agreed with me once that Straight to Hell is probably the best Good Music/Bad Movie combo of the 1980s. Sorry it sounds like it was uploaded from the bottom of a well, but here’s Joe Strummer’s “Evil Darling” from that movie, foreshadowing the stuff he would create later with the Mescaleros.
redshirt
Yeah. Nothing can beat “Eye of the Tiger“.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@James E Powell: Awww. Filmed partly at my old school, with many of my classmates as extras. It’s hilarious to see some of the hot guys I remember, pretty wild and good dancers, all dolled up as straitlaced early-60s college kids bobbing awkwardly.
NotMax
It’s become a cliche; an early 80s film tune.
Mnemosyne
@redshirt:
My favorite movie version of that is the one from Persepolis, which is also interesting because it shows that the song was a huge hit worldwide, including in post-revolutionary Iran.
Note: Chiara Mastrioanni (who voices the main character) is a terrible singer. That’s the point of the scene.
redshirt
Like the previous thread, this Open Thread need not be about music if you don’t want it to be.
Talk about whatever.
How about Bob Ross?
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: What an awesome link. Thanks!
Steeplejack (phone)
@redshirt:
No, you’re just supposed to say, “Tracking.”
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: We can talk automata if you want.
redshirt
@NotMax: I just did some sprints.
Steeplejack (phone)
@redshirt:
Is he the PBS painter who should be named Rusty Sienna?
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Like…a robot?
Mnemosyne
@redshirt:
We can mash up the two threads and have Catwoman stealing Chad and Jeremy’s voices mid-song.
Note: the ONLY thing I know about that duo is that they were on Batman 66.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Major Major Major Major:
I could spend my life talking about cellular automata.
redshirt
@Steeplejack (phone): Yes. A robot, perhaps.
Major Major Major Major
@Steeplejack (phone): That is a subset of automata! I am currently working on finite state machines!
NotMax
@Steeplejack
In classical Latin, the plural for Automat.
;)
Mart
That fight scene was only a little allwhite to me.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: If you were offered a job at Cyberdyne to work on advanced AI, would you turn it down?
Steeplejack (phone)
@Mnemosyne:
Lesser but pretty good British Invasion duo. “A Summer Song” was their big hit. (Somewhat ill-served in this lip-sync-y video, but interesting to see how they looked.)
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: obligatory
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Same time period – Peter & Gordon.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: So the answer is no.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: I mean, why not? Maybe I’d improve the situation.
Calming Influence
I have a strong and admittedly unreasonable prejudice against drummers that spin drumsticks in their fingers.
1. Stop spinning the drumstick, you’re supposed to be drumming;
2: All the time you spent practicing spinning a drumstick, you should have been practicing drumming so you would be a better drummer;
3. I practiced piano for all those years and there’s no spinning a piano on your fingers move, so it’s not fair.
Steeplejack (phone)
@NotMax:
Man you’re dredging the bottom!
Give me “I Go to Pieces.” I can taste Donna Winter’s hairspray as if it were yesterday.
redshirt
@Calming Influence: It does look really cool though.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Sure, you’d program the AI from the inside.
NotMax
70s, a case of the theme music being so much better than was the film.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: Somebody’s got to do it.
Calming Influence
@redshirt: I think it looks show-offy and juvenile and stupid-headish.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Flash from the past. Such as it is, still holds up.
(Have a hunter in WoW with a mechanical sheep pet named after this tune.)
Steeplejack (phone)
“A World Without Love.” Peter and Gordon in “two Beatles shy of a load” mode.
That song was written by Paul McCartney, who dated Peter Asher’s sister Jane for a time. If my computer wasn’t doing an interminable Windows update I would get on there and dig up some more dirt.
? Martin
@Calming Influence: You do realize that rock concerts are entertainment, right? And that the drummer is usually perched on a platform above the rest of the band, if he isn’t strapped into some moving contraption that will twirl around, just to amuse a drug-fueled audience? Of course it’s show-offy. If show-offy wasn’t the goal, they’d just play a concert on the radio and call it a day.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Calming Influence:
So basically you’re just jealous. I bet you’re also pissed that you can’t play your piano with your teeth and then set it on fire.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Major Major Major Major:
Subtlety is not lost on you.
Calming Influence
I may be jealous, but that doesn’t mean spinning drumsticks is acceptable behavior. And I have set pianos on fire; just never on stage.
Steeplejack (phone)
@NotMax:
Great song. They were big in Texas when I lived there. Along with the Sir Douglas Quintet. “She’s About a Mover.”
Steeplejack (phone)
@Calming Influence:
LOL.
Aleta
@Steeplejack (phone): on the other hand I’m Alive
Steeplejack (phone)
@Calming Influence:
LOL. (WTF, FYWP?)
Aleta
@Steeplejack (phone): Tin Soldier
TheMightyTrowel
OT: Have finally managed to make an appt to get my hair cut after 6 weeks of saying ‘i really need a haircut’. There are 8 million salons in this town, but only a few are decent (a friend was literally able to snap her hair in half like dried pasta after a bad dye job at one of the pricier chi chi places) and it takes weeks to get a fucking appt. Argh!!! I am also totally cursed in that whenever I find one person who’s great after I see them twice for haircuts they either leave the profession or leave the country. This has happened 6 times in the last 4 years. WTF. [rant over]
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Aleta:
The Hollies are one of my favorite underappreciated groups from that era. “Yes, I Will” (the much better U.K. alternate version).
Aleta
@NotMax: Come On might go with that…
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Aleta:
Haven’t heard that in years!
Aleta
@Steeplejack (tablet): That’s a beaut, and impossible to match. This is good, thoough. Different.
I Can’t Let Go
Steeplejack (phone)
@TheMightyTrowel:
I hear you, on both fronts. I procrastinate way too long on getting a haircut. I go from “Eh, I could use a trim” to Bernie Sanders “struggle hair” overnight, and then it’s driving me nuts. And I still procrastinate.
I used to have that problem of looking for a good cutter and then when I found one they would disappear. I’ve been lucky to be with my current guy, Khalid, jeez, for a couple of years now. I even timed two haircuts back in the spring to span the six weeks he went back to Morocco
for terrorist trainingto visit family. (Just joking, NSA!)Aleta
@Steeplejack (phone): It’s funny, but that one, it’s very hard to come close to that even though it’s simple and there’s so much like it. I was trying but nothing seems worthy. I can’t say why.
Dixie Cups song, sung by Nora Jones
Aleta
night.
Calouste
@Calming Influence:
1) Sometimes they don’t have to be drumming. It’s called a break.
2) I don’t think a decent drummer has to practice much to spin a drumstick. Those folks have excellent muscular control anyway. You need that to have four limbs moving in four different ways at the same time.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Aleta:
Ronstadt does a good cover of that. Then I was thinking that Dan Fogelberg and Tim Weisberg also covered it, but they covered another one: “Tell Me to My Face.” (Original version.)
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: Ugh.
Steeplejack (phone)
@Aleta:
Night-night.
I’ve been slowed down by being on the phone tonight. Hunt and peck.
?BillinGlendaleCA
I watched “Magical Mystery Tour”(the BluRay, I wasn’t tripping) yesterday, and this song* was featured.
*It’s not The Beatles.
Steeplejack (phone)
Phone battery in the red zone. Probably time for me to go to bed.
Steeplejack (phone)
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
That’s . . . trippy.
Joyce H
Sorry, not about music, but hey guys… has anyone else noticed this? In all the talk about the Trump Miss Universe controversy, the talk is about how he fat shamed her, but it seems he also stiffed her.
I just watched that two minute video she made for the Clinton campaign, and while she talks about the names she was called and how humiliated she was, she also says that during her year as Miss Universe, she made a lot of appearances and the pageant org would get paid for her appearance and she was supposed to get 10% of the fee, but she never got paid. Shouldn’t attention be drawn to that? Because it’s All Of A Piece.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Joyce H: Yes, it seems the only person Trump pays is Donald J. Trump.
Amir Khalid
All I remember about Streets of Fire is that it doesn’t actually feature the Springsteen song of that title.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Amir Khalid: I blame Obama.
Cermet
Street’s of Fire was my Ex-wife’s’ favorite vid; there was one real music group – the bombers that really did sing/play their own songs. I guess this was just a music video taken to the next logical level. Fun, rather non-violent (in that no one is ever killed nor any real blood) but the overall idea a bit on the sci-fy future apocalyptic world that maybe mirror the ray-gun future (as in the logical end result of unbridled capitalism. Maybe the Rump can finally help bring it about?
piratedan
my apologies for this tl:dr post that is forthcoming.
I’ve been really concerned about how the millennials are essentially telling us(Dems) that our arguments are incredibly unconvincing for them to buy into our arguments that voting for Clinton is what many of us see as a moral imperative. So, I guess I wanted to get down some thoughts on what I am reading and the arguments that are being made.
Most of the complaints that I am seeing fall into the following categories:
1) They haven’t seen enough from when the Democrats have been in office and in charge in regards to progressive politics
2) Debt – too much mind numbing debt associated with getting an education for them to earn a viable living
3) Opportunity – They don’t see it, while unemployment is down, there aren’t the types of jobs that young people are seeking, i.e. applying those pricey degrees in their desired field
4) Income Inequality
5) Racial intolerance
6) The killing of people with drones
The Focus that many of us are using to make our arguments do not seem real to them and as such, they don’t believe in their veracity. They are under the impression that the rights that exist now, will ALWAYS exist. As such, scary stories about the Supreme Court balance do not resonate with them. They do not take seriously the idea that if Christian Conservatives manage to elect Trump that the rights that they enjoy in regards to health care, birth control, and quite possibly those of their gay and trans friends might be in Jeopardy. THEY DO NOT SEE IT AS A POSSIBILITY.
so, lets break this down… shall we, and you folks can add on where I’ve screwed up or pile on where we need to because it is on us to articulate to them some quality responses because what is being said is still being ignored by a large number of folks…
1) Where is my pony? – They are under the impression that while Obama has been in office for nearly 8 years, so where are their fucking ponies? Why are we STILL bombing people? Why are we still murdering innocents abroad. Now before we get mad, for a large number of these folks, we’re now 15 years past 9/11. So… many of them were say 3 years old, or even 8, or 10. How many of you were politically aware at that age? They haven’t lived thru THAT specific tragedy, so for a good many of them, it doesn’t have the same effect that it does on older generations.
Also, context is important… Obama had a Dem House and Senate for two years… not 8. Do they even know this? Plus, in the 2 years there was control in both chambers, it really even wasn’t 2 years. It was… wait for it.. 2 months. Yup, two fucking months was it. Why? Because the GOP prevented Al Franken from being seated in the Senate until June. In August, Ted Kennedy died, followed quickly by Robert Byrd. In the interim, Obama and Nancy Smash and Harry Reid were kind of busy saving the country (and the world as we understand it) from economic collapse and in trying to get healthcare to millions of uninsured people. Then, even the latter was hamstrung by the SCOTUS (that supposedly doesn’t really matter) giving GOP governors the opportunity to opt out and refuse matching federal funds to help even more people… like young struggling millennials in their first jobs who never get sick and are now having to see more of their paychecks go to healthcare that they never think they will need (on top of that student loan debt)
What strangely reinforces their disdain is that via Executive order, Obama did get shit done, despite the Congress, but the types of things that he got done were on the fringes, but hey, that’s not their problem, its our problem because half of America is fucking stupid and racist and keeps putting GOP tools in office because Dems can’t be arsed to vote or stay informed or appreciate context.
Also, they don’t seem to understand that when Bill Clinton was in office that we had these things called Blue Dogs, that were essentially GOP lite, yet they see the crappy after effects of the mixed results of the Crime Bill and NAFTA and gee, the DEMS were just as bad because we helped out in Bosnia and got our hands slapped in Ethiopia (both sides are just as evil and war mongery as the other… see). Now nearly every Dem still in office is actually a damn Democrat.
2) Debt – many of the kids when they get out of school have loans that are simply crushing them (I know valued commenter Suzanne is one of them). They don’t see what the Dems are proposing. They heard Bernie talk about it, but for whatever reason, they haven’t heard Hillary. Here’s the link on her webpage that discusses what she wants to do: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/college/ I have no idea why people don’t like this or why they think that the GOP or the LIB party would even come close to this. Even the Green Party does talk about expansion of education but nothing on how they would do it, but they do touch on how much they would like to relieve the debt of those going to college and those that still have it. There’s really not a lot of difference here, just that the Dems have more specifics and harder numbers.
3) Opportunity – They’re coming out of school and they don’t see the jobs that pay 35-50k a year in their chosen field. Who is to blame for that? Part of it could be the schools turning out graduates in fields for which there are no jobs (a time honored American tradition) and part of this could be that businesses are slow to take on additional labor, despite the slow and steady growth of the economy because of.. well Greed. Why should I hire two more fresh faces when I can set up that money as a personal honorarium for the board and we can all go to Cancun and applaud ourselves for making a profit. To be fair… I don’t know how to fix this. Part of the solution is shutting down the diploma mills. Part of it is actually rebuilding the country so that there will be jobs in engineering, landscape design, waste water treatment, chemical engineering etc. I’ve looked at the Greens plans for economic diversity and expansion and they want to promote additional workplace diversity and employee ownership and employee democracy. That’s all well and good, but how is that going to happen?
Small town USA is dying, how do we make it viable once again? Treat internet access as if it is a utility, like water and energy and sewage?
4) Income Inequality – In this regard, the Greens and Dems are incredibly similar. Hillary is proposing raising the tax rates on the wealthy. Closing down additional income loopholes that allow profits to be untaxed. The Greens are even more aggressive in doing so but without the specifics that are provided on Hillary’s website. The LIB and GOP postion is essentially, FU, we’re not sharing with ANYONE.
5) Racial Intolerance – The folks that are questioning voting for a Dem because of this cite that the DEMS aren’t doing enough. For some reason Obama speeches of outrage and Congressional sit ins aren’t cutting it. Nor are the DOJ investigations, but until people get fired and arrested, it still seems too slow and too little. The Greens state that racial intolerance shouldn’t be tolerated and believes that there should be more community involvement (no real difference from the Dems) but when you have a GOP majority in the house, nothing is going to happen since they believe that Obama is the REAL racist.
6) The remote death squads – There are a LOT of youngsters that feel that the drone campaign is ugly, sinister and unethical.
You know what… they’re absolutely correct. It is all of those things. The part that seems to trip them up however is that there is no other solution that they offer. They seem to feel if we stop that, then things will get better, somehow, magically, as if we suddenly clean up our act and behave as better citizens then there won’t be any cause for there to be additional terrorists. This strikes me as a real tough issue to argue about. For a number of reasons:
a) what is the alternative… boots or humint on the ground to handle this conflict on a more “personal” basis. Would they prefer that? Do we/can we simply stop and wait and see… at what potential cost?
b) The green Party has no foreign policy statement… at all on their web page. With the monetary backing of their party from Russian nationalists, it tends to make one dubious about how they would handle this issue
c) The Libertarian candidate doesn’t even know where the fuck Aleppo is… enough said.. no, not really. Because who are the LIBs? Why they are essentially GOP folks that enjoy the personal freedom and belief that pot is okay. Fine, what were they before, they were republicans. So how could we believe that their policy would significantly vary from that of the GOP… I’ll wait for any arguments.
d) the GOP position is currently covered by the following synopsis… we go in and we take the oil… if its too much hassle, we’ll nuke them or at least consider it.
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To be fair, I can understand their points and I have some worries on how do we address them…
Part of me wants to explore, how we can reach them and try to understand their issues and how they are also our issues too…
What it always seems to come down to is… okay, how do we game this out…
Say… we look at the vote for Stein…who do they vote for down ballot? Dem or GOP?
She gets elected… what is she left to deal with… a GOP House? a GOP Senate? A split chamber? Dem Majorities in each?
Who is she going to build consensus with? How will she govern? Okay, she has SCOTUS nominees, how will she get them through to confirmation? How will she find common ground since she has zero relationships in the House and the Senate? So does the Senate ignore her? Do they see Paul Ryan as being willing to work with her or will she be treated as a figurehead? How will she handle the budget? The unspoken part of the Green platform has nothing indicated towards the Military or foreign policy, how does she get the money moved from that area to the other areas that the Greens say that they want to fund? Do we get to watch additional gridlock in place until the next Presidential election?
Okay, lets ignore the idea that Stein gets the Presidency.. so you voted for her to express your issues with how it stands today.. now you get an outcome of Hillary in the White House… and if she gets a Dem House and Senate or close to a split in either chamber, then what we’re likely to see is some incremental progress and implementation of her agenda (and if you look, there’s a fair bit in their to like that covers, debt and opportunity and income inequality). Maybe not all, but some. If she gets both chambers, then more of her agenda gets pushed (By the effective Ms. Pelosi).
If Trump gets elected, what will you likely see…
– drones and more boots.. most likely.. instead of measured support roles in the fight against ISIS, probably redeployment wholesale into IRAQ, possibly IRAN. Instead of the gradual draw down in Afghanistan… who knows.
– Probably more Russian expansionism, more bites out of Ukraine, the Baltic states will be twitchy considering his NATO remarks
– Instead of trying to house and home refugees, that will stop.
– Dreamers will be deported, possible family members as well. If you didn’t like Arizona SB1070, I would expect to see more of the same, except nationwide. The immigration process gets “fixed”, namely we won’t really have one.
– Wouldn’t expect any debt forgiveness, not in the GOP platform.
– No spending on infrastructure, so unsure where jobs are coming from but business would be allowed to be unconcerned about the handling of the waste products without an EPA.
– so you could probably expect there to be more environmental disasters, and that would apply to our national parks being reduced or sold off to private businesses for development.
– Plus that the SCOTUS (and all of those other court vacancies that the Senate has been sitting on) now go to conservatives instead, who will be pro business and much more conservative christian inclined. So chances are good that your right to birth control could be limited. Plus gays and women and minorities can probably be safely discriminated against on “religious” grounds. Also, any of those civil servants that were appointed during the Obama years will probably be outed, per the statements of the GOP campaign.
– the dismantling of the ACA and have it replaced with… nothing. Youngsters can go back to being uninsured, and everyone else gets to watch their health care costs spiral upward because there’s no oversight on the insurance industry to limit profits and allocate resources to payment of policies.
In short, what does a protest vote really buy the outraged Millennial? Can anyone see a real advantage here?
I understand being angry with the status quo and in believing that Dems are potentially or possibly just as crappy as the GOP. If you want to effect change, then you have to build your 3rd party from the ground up to do so. You have to have legislators in place to help drive the necessary change, and if you can do that by co-opting the Greens and Libertarians, well good on you. My biggest issue is if Trump is elected, under what environment do you think such an effort can thrive?
Anything else that anyone can add, how can we reach them? Or is the game so hopelessly rigged (in their mind) that it simply doesn’t matter? How do we convince them otherwise?
Or have they even noticed that the GOP isn’t even bothering to reach out to them at all in any meaningful fashion?
thanks for reading
raven
Ugh.
PST
I somehow never saw that movie. All through the video I kept saying, “Wait, isn’t that …?” Especially “Isn’t that Rick Moranis getting punched in the face? What’s he doing there?” The song sounds like every Meat Loaf or Bonnie Tyler song, so sure enough it was by Jim Steinman.
eyelessgame
Jim Steinman’s music is a jolt directly to the pleasure and angst sections of my brain, and that song is the most quintessential Jim Steinman song that Jim Steinman ever Jim Steinmanned.
burnspbesq
Sorry, but this is the killer video from “Streets of Fire.”
bluefish
@piratedan: I know I will be asking my 21 year old son to read what you’ve offered here. Many thanks for this and wish me luck! Well done, pirate!