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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Open Thread: Trump Went to Reno Just to Shoot His Own Campaign

Open Thread: Trump Went to Reno Just to Shoot His Own Campaign

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 20165:53 pm| 132 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes

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"A lot of people said I won the first debate," Trump says at end of this interview. No. No, they did not. https://t.co/GDuCnEtzzg

— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) October 6, 2016

Deadbeat Don has reached the point where he no longer even pretends to care about that “voting” arglebargle. He’s got as much chance of winning Nevada’s electoral votes as I have of winning the next Miss Universe pageant, but there’s plenty Trump fans for a rally and he can charge Trump hotel expenses to his campaign account, so hellooo Neh-VAH-da!

Local reporter got an exclusive interview before Trump’s Henderson rally. Many softballs were lobbed, and still the candidate’s responses seemed… less than presidential:

… During a conversation about nuclear waste storage, Trump acknowledged his familiarity with Nevada’s Yucca Mountain…

“I’m very friendly with this area. I have the hotel here, I will tell you I’m going to take a look at it because so many people here are talking about it. I’ll take a look at it, and the next time you interview me, I’ll have an answer,” said Trump.

Trump was pressed on the issue as it pertains to tourism in southern Nevada.

“Got an idea, just brainstorming, bury the waste under the wall, no one would come near it,” said Snyder. “…the concern is, if we had it it would hurt the tourism industry, scare people, do you share that concern?”

“Number one is safety and it is a little too close to major population, so I will take a look at it and I will have an opinion,” said Trump….

“Do you worry that a trade war would hurt tourism and your business interests here,” asked Snyder.

Trump supported his comments saying, “It will actually help, we’re just talking about fairness, not like tough like we’re not going to do business. Just tough so the US can make something.”

“But what if China said no more visas to go to Las Vegas and stay at Trump Tower,” pressed Snyder.

“If China ever did that, and we cut off relationship with China, China would go bust so fast,” said Trump….

As for his performance in the first debate, Trump says he doesn’t plan to do a single thing differently during the second one.

“A lot of people said I won the first debate.”…

(Video at the link.)

MO congressman @USRepLong now speaking at Henderson Trump rally. No NV congressional/senate candidates here

— Riley Snyder (@RileySnyder) October 5, 2016

Amazing to think GOP WH nominee is speaking in Nevada's largest city and only GOP elected here is little-known assemblyman.

— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) October 5, 2016

Trump on Russia/Putin: "I don’t love, I don’t hate, we’ll see how it works."

— Riley Snyder (@RileySnyder) October 5, 2016

Trump doesn't like the new Clinton attack ad (on his vets comments): "I guess we'll sue 'em. Let's sue 'em."

— Rebecca Sinderbrand (@sinderbrand) October 5, 2016

"We're going to end education." — Trump. I don't think he meant that. On the other hand, it is his campaign.

— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) October 5, 2016

"Mike Pence did an incredible job, and I'm getting a lot of credit," Trump says in Nevada.

— Caitlin Huey-Burns (@CHueyBurnsRCP) October 5, 2016

But the one incident that’s getting the most buzz is yet another example of Trump’s firm conviction that primate dominance is always a winning strategy…

In Reno,Trump says "Neh-VAH-da," declares "no one says it the other way" which is met by confusion, as many folks here say it the other way

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) October 5, 2016

Donald Trump just spent two minutes in Reno insisting that Nevada is pronounced "Nev-AH-da," which is incorrect.

— Scott Bixby (@scottbix) October 5, 2016

As a born and raised Nevadan, I can vouch that this actually bothers people in the Silver State. https://t.co/0PSMsulzj3

— Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) October 5, 2016

THIS WAS LITERALLY AN EPISODE OF VEEP. https://t.co/hQD9tDECgc

— Tim Hogan (@timjhogan) October 6, 2016

So @therickwilson just mispronounced NV and called it a "really dodgy place." Just because the second part is true does not excuse the 1st.

— Jon Ralston (@RalstonReports) October 6, 2016

Sunday’s townhall debate is going to be… a mess. Anyone want to calculate the odds on Trump trying to shout down the first person in the audience who asks a question he doesn’t like? Extra points if it’s a little old lady or a visibly scarred veteran.

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  1. 1.

    Trentrunner

    October 6, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    Senator Harry Reid (D-NV & CEO of Asskicking, Inc.) had a few cherce tweets for The Orange Scrotum:

    If Trump wants to come down from the penthouse his daddy bought him to lecture us on Nevada, he could at least pronounce it correctly.

    Trump told us we pronounce our state wrong; then he refused to take stance on Yucca.

    It’s pronounced Nev-AD-a and Yucca Mountain is dead.

    (Reid gets bonus points for proper semicolon use; he will be missed.)

  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    I believe this Ne-VAH-da rally was the same event in which he told terminally ill people to be sure and vote for him before they die.

  3. 3.

    Brent

    October 6, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    I live in Nevada. I doubt he will win but I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of possibilities. He won’t win Las Vegas, which is where I am and where the vast majority of Nevadans live. But he has some support here and more in the rest of the State. As I say, I don’t think it will be enough for him to take it, but I wouldn’t say his chances are nil either.

  4. 4.

    Anoniminous

    October 6, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    And the “deepest bench of Republican presidential candidates EVAH!” couldn’t put this ridiculous goofball away.

  5. 5.

    Chat Noir

    October 6, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    I love “Veep” and thought of the “Nevada” episode when I read about Trump mispronouncing Nevada. Hope het gets his ass handed to him in a major way on November 8.

  6. 6.

    Geeno

    October 6, 2016 at 6:01 pm

    Young woman of color – almost certainly

  7. 7.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    As I mentioned in yesterday’s pronounciation thread, when I was doing voter registration in Nevada last weekend, they made sure we knew the correct way to pronounce it so we wouldn’t be instantly recognizable as out-of-staters. Knowing your audience is important.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    State names are tricky, and people can be sensitive. For example, did you know that, even though it’s “The Ohio State University,” the name of the state is simply “Ohio” and not “The Ohio.”

    I don’t think my campaign ever recovered from that gaffe.

  9. 9.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    @Baud: It may have also been when you referred to Iraq as ‘The Iraq’.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    @Baud: They are like Ukrainians that way.

  11. 11.

    Mark B.

    October 6, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    I believe this Ne-VAH-da rally was the same event in which he told terminally ill people to be sure and vote for him before they die.

    Or after, it doesn’t really matter to Trump either way.

  12. 12.

    Mary G

    October 6, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    The reporter did ask why his hotel workers aren’t in the local union, which represents most of the other employees on the strip. DT wasn’t too happy with the question and said something about treating his employees the best so they don’t need no stinking unions. I think we have another lie for the list.

  13. 13.

    nonynony

    October 6, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    @Baud: Gaffe? Hell you’re lucky the university didn’t sue for trademark violation.

  14. 14.

    Iowa Old Lady

    October 6, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    There’s a town west of Ames called Nevada–pronounced Nev-AY-duh.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:11 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Lesson learned. Next time, I’ll remember to look up the right information on The Google.

  16. 16.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    @Baud: Remember, the internets are a series of tubes, not dump trunks*.

    *I should note that the person that originally said that graduated from the University that was Node One on the internet.

  17. 17.

    Feebog

    October 6, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Given the current trend in polling and the Clinton ground game vs. well, no ground game, Trump is going to have to hit an out-of-the-park grand slam home in the debate Sunday. Otherwise, this thing is a wrap.

  18. 18.

    JPL

    October 6, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Trump is having a practice session in NH tonight. I assume the audience will be handed out the questions. If he stumbles, he will not debate. Of course, the hurricane will be blamed.

  19. 19.

    West of the Cascades

    October 6, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    This mispronunciation is a big deal to folks in Nevada – just like people who call my state Or-eh-gone. Nuh uh – it’s Orygun. Maybe Trump will come up here and hit the Daily Double. Just so happens we have some folks from Nevada staying with us temporarily in Multnomah County jail … Ammon Bundy pronounces it “Ne-VAD-a” just like Harry Reid!

  20. 20.

    The Golux

    October 6, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    @Baud:

    …on The Google.

    Isn’t that supposed to be “Teh Google”? Get with the program, man!

    (Or, as a client from long ago would say, “pogram”.)

  21. 21.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: The Democratic VP candidate, Tim “The” Kaine, unfortunately says “the” Ukraine.

    This upsets English-speaking Ukrainians, but Ukrainian- or Russian-speaking Ukrainians are a little confused, because neither of those languages has the definite article, so when they learn English they tend to use “the” where they don’t need it and skip it where they do.

    Don’t get me started on Islamic Republic of The Gambia.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    @The Golux:

    Get with the pogram? Isn’t that the Trump campaign slogan?

  23. 23.

    Turgidson

    October 6, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    “We’re going to end education.” — Trump.

    Tremendous.

  24. 24.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:20 pm

    @JPL:

    Of course, the hurricane will be blamed.

    I’m sure he’ll have to fly down to Mar-a-Lago to personally take care of hurricane damage.

  25. 25.

    Schlemazel

    October 6, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Well, they have good reason to be sensitive. “The Ukraine” implies a province of Russia while “Ukraine” is a nation. Ukrainians (actual ones, not the Russians shipped in to “passify” the place) are kinda resentful of the “The” part

  26. 26.

    redshirt

    October 6, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    @Baud: You mean The Google?

  27. 27.

    Keith P.

    October 6, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    I guess most people are noticing by now that his answers betray an utter lack of knowledge of local issues. Examples (not even bothering to list the questions because the answers are his generic ‘I didn’t read the book, ma’am’ standards):
    “Well I think we’re going to end up working something out with them, we have good relationships and I think we’ll end up getting something that is satisfactory.”
    “I think we’ll do very well here, we just got polls that show we’re doing very well and I think that will work out very well.”
    They’re like something John Oliver would read and then go, “And these aren’t even actual quotes from Donald Trump, but you thought they were anyway” (these are actual quotes)

  28. 28.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:23 pm

    @Turgidson: Well it makes sense since Trump says he loves the poorly educated.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    @Keith P.:

    I guess most people are noticing by now that his answers betray an utter lack of knowledge of local issues.

    And the English language.

  30. 30.

    Hal

    October 6, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    I always thought there was something depressing about Reno. A city that lookshe better at night.

  31. 31.

    sigaba

    October 6, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ukrainian doesn’t have linguistic articles, so they call it “Ukraine,” not “The Ukraine.”

    In fact they call it “Ukrainiya”

  32. 32.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    @Hal:

    A city that looks better at night.

    As do many of us.

    (ETA: “She may very well pass for forty-three / In the dusk with the light behind her.”)

  33. 33.

    Bruce K

    October 6, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    On the one hand, I just learned today that I’ve been pronouncing Nevada wrong for over forty years, so I can’t throw stones.

    On the other hand, one, I’m not running for President of the United States, of which Nevada is one, and two, I’d like to think I’d accept a correction on that point instead of doubling down.

    I swear, the need to always be right is almost pathological there, and it might just be the fatal flaw that finally brings down the vulgar talking yam.

  34. 34.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    @Baud: Well, at least you knew better than to refer to African Americans as “The Blacks”. I’ll give you that. Better luck in 2020 with your campaign.

  35. 35.

    Joshua Norton

    October 6, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    “a lot of people” = the voices in my head, my hired campaign hacks & Gary Busey when he takes my calls.

  36. 36.

    bmoak

    October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    I thought the format of the town hall questions was largely decided by a popularity contest amongst questions submitted online.. Last I checked, all of the most popular questions were things like “What could have been done to save those lives in Benghazi?” and “Should presidential candidates be required to make public all of their government e-mails?”

  37. 37.

    Eric U.

    October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    this whole discussion about how to say Nevada reminded me that I used to call it “Ne VAD ah” like the locals when I lived out west. Now that I live in Pennsylvania, I have reverted to “Ne Vah dah” like all easterners. Pretty normal, I suppose.

    @Joshua Norton: millions of people think Trump won the debate. They’re idiots. But that’s lots of people. Probably his campaign staff just doesn’t bother to talk about it, he’s used to yes men, so it would be ineffective anyway.

  38. 38.

    ? Martin

    October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    @Keith P.: He appears not to read.

  39. 39.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    @sigaba:

    In fact they call it “Ukrainiya”

    No they don’t. It’s “Україна,” pronounced “Ukrayina.”

  40. 40.

    shomi

    October 6, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    I predict the drumpster fire will use the Hurricane as an excuse to cancel the debate. Instead he will fly into Florida for a 2 minute photo op handing out Trump water.

  41. 41.

    Mary G

    October 6, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    When Joe Buck couldn’t broadcast in 2011, he said he had a virus. It was a lie. It was because of his hair plug addiction.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: That’s why God invented blindfolds.

    @Patricia Kayden: I do now!

  43. 43.

    Redshift

    October 6, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    And the “deepest bench of Republican presidential candidates EVAH!” couldn’t put this ridiculous goofball away.

    The striking thing is, a lot of us thought at the time that the reason for that was that they didn’t disagree with him on any of the issues, so they couldn’t attack him the way a Democrat would be able to. But think about it — how many of the effective Clinton attacks have been about the issues? There are some, sure, but the main ones are all about him being an asshole, lying a lot, and being secretive about his business and taxes. The “deep bench” probably couldn’t have attacked him for being an asshole, because the conservative base, unlike the general electorate, loves assholes, but the rest? Any of them could have hit him on those things, if they’d had effective oppo research and they hadn’t all been waiting for someone else to take him down (and probably go down in flames with him) so they could be the last man standing.

    It really is true that they lost to him because they were a bunch of crappy campaigners, and, despite the media chatter about a Clinton “coronation,” they were hoping to be the “next in line” the GOP always picks.

  44. 44.

    sigaba

    October 6, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I wonder if I gave the Russian pronounciation or just misremembered one.

  45. 45.

    ? Martin

    October 6, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    I hope people in Florida and SC are taking this storm seriously. NWS is sending out the same sorts of ‘oh shit’ vibes as they did with Katrina and Sandy.

    STRUCTURAL DAMAGE TO STURDY BUILDINGS, SOME WITH COMPLETE ROOF
    AND WALL FAILURES. COMPLETE DESTRUCTION OF MOBILE HOMES. DAMAGE
    GREATLY ACCENTUATED BY LARGE AIRBORNE PROJECTILES. LOCATIONS
    MAY BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:36 pm

    @Mary G: It least it wasn’t a butt plug addiction. Poor Aikman.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    @Bruce K:

    I’m assuming you don’t also have large business interests in Nevada — like maybe a big hotel — that would mean you would have traveled to the state several times (at least) and spoken to people who did pronounce it correctly.

    Don’t worry, if you come to Los Angeles, we won’t ask you to guess the right way to say “San Pedro” (it’s not the way you’d assume if you’re a non-local).

  48. 48.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 6, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    If only that show had been called CSI: The Cyber, I think it would still be on the air.

  49. 49.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 6, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I always liked the Firesign Theater’s Nick Danger routine, where they pronounced “Los Angeles” with the hard “g.”

  50. 50.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @Eric U.:

    this whole discussion about how to say Nevada reminded me

    It reminded me that I couldn’t give a shit less about anyone who gets upset about this.

  51. 51.

    Eric U.

    October 6, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @Redshift: Brinks trucks full of money should have gotten the oppo research needed to disqualify trump. Maybe there never were any trucks backing up. There is no evidence that John Bush knew how to run a campaign or anything else for that matter. He isn’t good with people or giving speeches, and apparently he can’t do the most simple things needed to win. SAD!

    @Mary G: So close, so close to never having to listen to Joe Buck again. If only the virus had spread to Brent Musberger

    @Corner Stone: this is the sort of thing that gets me to say it wrong just to tweak Nevadans. Sorta like going to Duboyz Pennsylvania and pronouncing it Dubois.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    @Redshift: They all wanted someone else to piss off his base, because his base is the GOP base. It was a collective action problem.

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone): She should have stuck with speaking to dead people.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    October 6, 2016 at 6:45 pm

    Guess I’ll need to start buying more Ben & Jerry’s

    @benandjerrys
    Black Lives Matter. Choosing to be silent in the face of such injustice is not an option. #BlackLivesMatter

  55. 55.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne: My favorite was when I’d call in for prescriptions at Costco, they’d call it “Los Felis” instead of “Los Feeless”.

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 6, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    @Feebog: Otherwise, this thing is a wrap.

    I agree, but I think you should spit between your fingers and spin in a circle three times.

  57. 57.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    Here’s a really nice campaign ad from HRC (h/t Digby). I especially like the little jabs about “we don’t measure success by the height of our skyscrapers or the size of our bank accounts,” LOL. Well-played, Secretary Clinton!

    I never wanted children, never had children, and took proactive steps to ensure that I would not have children IYKWIMAITYD. But Hillary’s passionate commitment to children, women, and families speaks to me in a surprisingly profound way. The fact that she is pro-choice as well as pro-child speaks volumes.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    October 6, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    There’s a town west of Ames called Nevada–pronounced Nev-AY-duh.

    Oh, that was just a prank by some enterprising Cyclones, back when my Dad went there. (State, not Nev-AY-duh, that is.) Amazing to see that the locals bought into it all these years.

  59. 59.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I’m with you on kids, but it’s such a damn good ad.

  60. 60.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    @Baud:

    It least it wasn’t a butt plug addiction.

    But enough about the Baud!2016 campaign foibles.

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 6, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    By the time it finally tanked, the audience was dead people. I felt sorry for her. Everything about that show was awful.

  62. 62.

    Punchy

    October 6, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    @Brent: Yup. Pretty sure this was polling pink not too long ago. Not impossible for Trump to take it, although I dont think it would matter if he did.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    @Baud:

    it’s such a damn good ad.

    One of the best of the campaign. She has a really excellent communications team.

  64. 64.

    Geeno

    October 6, 2016 at 6:53 pm

    @West of the Cascades: The rude pundit said to pronounce it like the phrase “or a gun”

  65. 65.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Got my official voters pamphlet in the mail today 224 pages!

  66. 66.

    Dork

    October 6, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    So is it Or-E-gon or Or-ah-gon?

  67. 67.

    Enhanced Voting Techinques

    October 6, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Ne-VAH-da sounds like something someone from Long Island would say. Considering Neveda is a Spanish word thislooks like more of Trump’s anti-Mexican dogwistles.

  68. 68.

    Geeno

    October 6, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    @Baud: No that’s “Get with the pogrom”

  69. 69.

    Ryan

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    I got asked 4 times on campus today if I am registered to vote just today. The record over the last 18 years is once. NC is voting!

  70. 70.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: They were giving a lot of praise to the “Mirror” ad on Morning Joe this morning.

  71. 71.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @Punchy: I saw earlier today that the, or at least one, reason for the bad polling in the past in NV, especially Reid’s 2010 upset, was a lack of polling among Hispanics. Been a while, and I imagine pollsters and campaigns have at least tried to address that.

  72. 72.

    Tokyokie

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: There’s one of those in Missouri, too, not far from Versailles (pronounced “ver-SAYLES.”)

  73. 73.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @Geeno: That’s what I meant. They don’t pay me to spell correctly.

  74. 74.

    Mary G

    October 6, 2016 at 6:56 pm

    @lamh36: Good old hippies! Ben & Jerry’s has a van they drive around giving away free ice cream to people who register to vote and are also campaigning to re-enact the VRA. I love their ice cream, so I’m with you, now I have a good excuse.

  75. 75.

    Ryan

    October 6, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @Dork: Or-E-gun

  76. 76.

    Amir Khalid

    October 6, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @The Golux:
    Don’t you mean, “get with the programme“?

  77. 77.

    Ryan

    October 6, 2016 at 6:57 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techinques: Luon-IIIIIlund.

  78. 78.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 6, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @? Martin: Read the warnings for Charleston to my wife. Her response: “Sounds like Pompeii.”

  79. 79.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Calais, Maine is pronounced callus, not the French way.

  80. 80.

    Phylllis

    October 6, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @? Martin: We’re about 90 miles inland & our county emergency preparedness folks are urging residents who live in mobile homes to go to the local shelters tomorrow to ride out the storm.

  81. 81.

    ? Martin

    October 6, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Again, I’ll note that turnout models will be a mess this year. Knowing how many Latinos are in Nevada is easy, and how to reach them is easy. Figuring out how many will vote is not easy – especially this year.

  82. 82.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 6, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    @Baud: they pronounce Maine wrong, too.

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’ve always wondered where that hard “g” comes from. It’s definitely not the Spanish pronounciation.

  84. 84.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 6, 2016 at 7:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne: always makes me think of Anjelica Huston in The Grifters. I read a thing about whatever last of the LA Times Chandlers is still with us, and he uses the hard G, the article kind of implied it was an old money thing

  85. 85.

    guachi

    October 6, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    It may have also been when you referred to Iraq as ‘The Iraq’.

    To be fair, it actually is ‘The Iraq’ just like it’s ‘The Netherlands’.

    Lots of Arabic countries use the definite article in the common name of the country (like Sudan and Jordan)

  86. 86.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne: My dad used to pronounce it that way sometimes, maybe early 20th century midwestern(he was from southwest Missouri)?

  87. 87.

    Schlemazel

    October 6, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    My grandfathers brother (who lived in San Francisco) always pronounced it Lahs Angle-ees

    no idea where that came from but Firesign was the other place I heard it

  88. 88.

    Schlemazel

    October 6, 2016 at 7:08 pm

    @Baud:
    Lye-ma Ohio is spelled the same as Lee-ma Peru

    I assume it was named for the beans

  89. 89.

    Baud

    October 6, 2016 at 7:10 pm

    Major Cole/AL stompage. Literally same time stamp.

  90. 90.

    patroclus

    October 6, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Cairo, Illinois is pronounced KAY-ro.

    Marsellies, is Mar-sales.

  91. 91.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    @Feebog:
    Hilz just needs to hold serve from this point on. I”d prefer 6-0; 6-0; 6-0 (men”s rules) in November and some coattails, though.

  92. 92.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 7:14 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    That’s another good one.

    In fact, of the HRC ads I’ve seen throughout this campaign (I think I’ve seen most, but may have missed a few that were geographically targeted) I have yet to see an ineffective one.

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Hmm. So it sounds like maybe it’s the old-school pronounciation and it’s shifted over the years. Now I’m wondering how Jack Webb pronounced it on “Dragnet.”

  94. 94.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    @Baud: 707, I used to fly on those when I was a kid.

  95. 95.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 7:17 pm

    @Baud:
    @patroclus:

    Albany, Georgia, is pronounced AL-BEN-ny.

  96. 96.

    patroclus

    October 6, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    In Texas, it’s often not “Fort Worth” it’s “Foat Wuth.”

    There’s a major street in Wichita, Kansas spelled “Greenwich” but don’t pronounce it like you’re from England (Gren-itch), it’s pronounced “Green-Witch.”

  97. 97.

    Lizzy L

    October 6, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    El Sobrante, CA — the next town over from where I live — is pronounced Ehlsobranny (rhymes with Hell no granny) by locals. It took me about a decade living here to switch from Spanish to local pronunciation.

    @Schlemazel: “Comin’ into Los Angeles; bringin’ in a couple of keys; Don’t touch my bags, if you please, Mr. Customs Man…”

  98. 98.

    Schlemazel

    October 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    @Lizzy L:
    Chicken flyin everywhere around the plane
    Could we ever feel much finer?

  99. 99.

    Anne Laurie

    October 6, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Don’t get me started on Islamic Republic of The Gambia

    Speaking of that area, I was working in the Africana library at a midwestern university when Upper Volta’s leader decided to change its name to Burkina Faso. Which is a compound from two of the local languages meaning, approximately, ‘The Country of Upright Men’.

    A researcher who’d just returned from his Peace Corps stint told me that, yeah, the obvious lewd joke worked in both of those languages much as it did in English. Dick jokes seem to be a universal resource…

  100. 100.

    Anne Laurie

    October 6, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I still think PEER-ie, Michigan holds the Weird Mispronunciation title.

    You’d think that anybody who was gonna name their town Pierre would have some idea how it was pronounced…

  101. 101.

    Ruviana

    October 6, 2016 at 7:33 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Seems to maybe be an old-person thing; my grandmothers and one of my old professors pronounced it that way.

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    AL, I lived nine very long years of my life in Michigan and have never heard of “Pierre, MI,” with any pronunciation.

    Are you perhaps thinking of “Lapeer”? That’s a corruption of “La Pierre,” but the current spelling is consistent with its pronunciation.

    ETA: Or are you thinking of Pierre, SD, which I believe is indeed pronounced “Peer.” But in that case, your argument is with the South Dakotans, not the Michiganders.

  103. 103.

    hovercraft

    October 6, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    Why can’t these morons ever use the google machine before they make fools out of themselves?

    Jerome Corsi @jerome_corsi
    What is that PIN Kaine is wearing? Red DOT on White Field, Gold border. Ho Chi Minh? Viet Cong? Can anybody identify Kaine’s lapel pin?
    10:02 PM – 4 Oct 2016

    Seth Mnookin ✔@sethmnookin
    Alt-right world is…weird. Corsi is referring to blue star pin worn by family members w/actively deployed military.
    10:56 AM – 5 Oct 2016

  104. 104.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 6, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    @Anne Laurie: BTW, did you get the email I sent you with my last review? It was Sunday evening, I think. Will also put up a new poll for classic comedies to be reviewed by the Mnem, soon.

  105. 105.

    O. Felix Culpa

    October 6, 2016 at 7:50 pm

    MAD-rid is how you pronounce Madrid, New Mexico. Former ghost town turned tourist haven, with great jalapeno & cucumber margaritas for the quaffing.

  106. 106.

    Soylent Green

    October 6, 2016 at 7:52 pm

    It’s ORE – a – gun (not quite gun, but between gun and gehn).

    In high school I went on a date with Joe Buck’s sister. Classmate of mine. Joe is younger and wasn’t there yet.

  107. 107.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    @hovercraft:

    To be fair, there are very few conservatives who would recognize that pin since none of them were ever in the military, and they certainly would never let their children join.

  108. 108.

    gogol's wife

    October 6, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    He pronounced it new style.

  109. 109.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 6, 2016 at 8:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: my argument with Michiganders is about their stupid prohibition on left turns. You have to drive past your destination and make a u-turn.

    Fuckers.

  110. 110.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 6, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    @O. Felix Culpa: that pronunciation is familiar to current and former residents of Memphis, which lies on the New Madrid fault.

    ETA: go Tigers!

  111. 111.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 6, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Either that is a new rule, or I was a total scofflaw when I lived in Michigan 1975-84.

    (Or perhaps local/municipal/county laws, not statewide.)

    Mostly, though, I agree with your final word.

  112. 112.

    Rusty

    October 6, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Trump has said before he wants to get rid of all “government education”, in other words no more public schools. That’s what he meant. I doubt most most voters understand this, he wants to completely eliminate all our public schools.

  113. 113.

    Ajabu

    October 6, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    I had a friend from No. CA come to visit me in L.A. and when I asked where she was for pickup she said “On Sep-ul- veeda Blvd.” With the emphasis on the wrong syllable.

  114. 114.

    Ajabu

    October 6, 2016 at 8:20 pm

    @Schlemazel:
    NYC has a Houston St. pronounced How-stun.

  115. 115.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2016 at 8:23 pm

    @Ajabu:

    I think I used to say it that way when I first arrived. Luckily, there’s a song that can help her out.

  116. 116.

    lige

    October 6, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Born and raised in Oregon and I’ve never understood the three syllable Or – y – gun pronunciation guide it’s really two syllables like “Orr-gun” or even “Orrg’n” .

    And don’t get me started on how grating it is to hear people pronounce Nevada like Trump did.

  117. 117.

    Ajabu

    October 6, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    And, just to show you how weird the world actually is, there’s a town on the Mississippi Gulf Coast name Gautier and the locals pronounce it correctly as Go-Shay.
    Fucking rednecks, you just can’t trust ’em.

  118. 118.

    Monala

    October 6, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    I think the weirdest part about the Trump Nevada pronunciation incident is that he said he had a friend who mispronounced it and was killed for it. WTF?

  119. 119.

    Ajabu

    October 6, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    And I used to play music at Stage One on Pico in the 1970’s.

  120. 120.

    liberal

    October 6, 2016 at 9:08 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Nope. East of Ames.

  121. 121.

    sukabi

    October 6, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    @Turgidson: don’t need education any more, drumpfs got all the best words. And he’s keeping them for himself.

  122. 122.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    @lige:

    And don’t get me started on how grating it is to hear people pronounce Nevada like Trump did.

    How grating is it, leegay?

  123. 123.

    lige

    October 6, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    How do you know that’s not how I pronounce it?

  124. 124.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @lige: I have no idea how you pronounce Nevada.

  125. 125.

    Ken

    October 6, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    When does he visit Missouri? There are two accepted pronunciations, so I’m wondering if he’ll come up with a third one.

  126. 126.

    sloan

    October 6, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    I remember phone banking into Nevada from California in 2008 and we were told very specifically how to pronounce it so as to not offend anyone.

    It was treated like the most basic thing you had to know before speaking to Nevada residents to show you gave enough of a crap that you could be bothered to pronounce the name of their state correctly.

  127. 127.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 6, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    @Baud: No worries, old chum, all is forgiven.

  128. 128.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @sloan:

    and we were told very specifically how to pronounce it so as to not offend anyone.

    I get the basic level of respect, in that the people are showing they give a shit and all.
    But how fucking delicate are the flowers who are actually offended by this? I mean, if you pronounce it Nee-vah-dur are you somehow talking about a prison population in North Korea or some shit?
    Do Polar Bears come and eat you in your sleep?

  129. 129.

    sloan

    October 6, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Corner Stone: yeah lol I don’t know. At the time our Governor was an Austrian immigrant who famously pronounced California as “Cullyfawnya” and that was the last thing on anyone’s mind. If anything it made people like him more.

  130. 130.

    lige

    October 6, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    It’s irritating to have someone mispronounce where you’re from especially if you are from something as big as a US State and the orange gremlin doing the mispronouncing ostensibly speaks the same language as you.

  131. 131.

    sloan

    October 6, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @lige:I think Nevadans would have thought we were a bunch of morons if we couldn’t say the name of their state correctly.

    And who wants to vote for a moron?

  132. 132.

    Mom Says I'm Handsome

    October 7, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Everything I know about San Pedro I learned from Mike Watt.

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