Via beloved commentor SiubhanDuinne. Hillary Clinton has an excellent media team supporting her.
And for comic relief, an inspiration to all us chair-rooted bloggers, from the Washington Post:
… Wombats are epic burrowers. Their warrens can be 10 feet deep, 16 feet long, and include up to 50 entrances. What’s more, a wombat may use up to 10 different burrows within its home range. With all that subterranean infrastructure, the wombat would much prefer to duck inside a hole than stand and fight with a dingo. The only catch is wombats are kind of chubby, weighing up to 80 pounds, which means those burrows have to be sort of large.
So what prevents a predator from plunging down the hobbit hole after a wombat? Oh, only one of the most formidable fannies in the animal kingdom.
“A wombat’s rump is very tough,” says Alyce Swinbourne, a PhD candidate at the University of Queensland. “Their dermal shield is essentially four fused back bones or plates covered in cartilage, fat, thick skin, and fur.”…
… All of that gristle is the wombat’s primary defense against dingoes and other predators. The wombat simply dives into its burrow and plugs up the end with its caboose. The predator can claw and bite at the wombat’s backside all it wants, but those buns of steel protect it from any significant harm.
There’s even evidence that a wombat dermal shield can be used as an offensive weapon, a la Captain America. It’s thought that when a predator becomes too persistent, the wombat can slam its butt against the roof or walls of the burrow and literally crush the skull of its enemy…
Apart from hoping that ‘Sir Diermahl Shielde’ shows up as a minor character in next season’s Game of Thrones, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the week?
MattF
Natural selection works!
Sm*t Cl*de
The last thing a fox sees — on-coming wombat arse.
rikyrah
Good Morning?, Everyone?
Luthe
Wombats also produce cube-shaped poop./the more you know
Debbie(aussie)
Don’t you just love Aussie animal. Pouched roos’s, barbed platypus, the afore mentioned big arsed wombats and not forgetting the jellyfish, snakes and sharks. Hoping like crazy that the east coat states of US are not to severely damages, excepting of course Mar-A-Largo.
Cermet
I am sick of news sources saying that the Hurricane has been down graded to Cat III; the way they are phrasing this gives an impression that the storm is now weak; yes, it weaken from Cat IV to III but 120 mph winds with gusts to 160 mph isn’t a weak storm but a monster killer storm! Normally, such storms rarely last as Cat III when it hits shore. But this monster is running up the Florida coast as a Cat III. Ridiculous news reporting.
Sm*t Cl*de
@Debbie(aussie):
The totally adorbs blue-ringed octopus deserves a mention too.
And the spiders. And the dropbears. And the antivax campaigners.
raven
@Debbie(aussie): Had lunch with a friend and her dad yesterday. They are from Safety Bay and he was here for a reunion of the USS Frank E Evans and members of the HMAS Melbourne. I had no idea but the Melbourne rammed the Evans in an accident in 1969 and 74 Americans died. While both ships we in and out of the designated Vietnam War “zone” they were outside of if at the time of the accident and the names of the sailors killed are not on the Wall. He was quite a guy, 12 years in the RAN and worked in mining for years.
satby
@Cermet:
It is a day ending in y.
bystander
Maybe Trump had a wombat ass fused to his head. That would explain a lot.
Sm*t Cl*de
“I was bitten by a radioactive wombat. Ask me about my superpowers and how I fight crime!”
scav
@Luthe:
Next step in evolution will be caltrop shaped poop which they will lay in a trail behind them so slow down pursuing dingos, or forcibly expel in the face of extremely persistent ones.
Immanentize
Hello, All. Friday, at least. I will be off to see
My aging Mom tomorrow who is still living in (now by herself) the four bedroom five level split level house I grew up in. It will be her 86th birthday. She says she is now just about ready to downsize. I hope I have half her grit and independence at that age.
Bonus — fresh apple cider from a press near where she lives
raven
@Immanentize: Happy trails.
Villago Delenda Est
Ahem, nerd pedant time.
“Ser Diermahl Shielde”
Chet
Took the day off, so I can get my car registration replaced. It’s paid for, but I must have tossed the card when they mailed it to me. The only way to replace it is to go to the DMV and fill out a form, and pay $5. License renewals usually involve a two-hour wait, though, so I am not looking forward to it.
Immanentize
@Sm*t Cl*de: I was wondering how you were able to dig that well so quickly….
trnc
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha …
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/daughter-of-trump-surrogate-rudy-giuliani-backing-clinton/2016/10/07/a4187396-8c74-11e6-8cdc-4fbb1973b506_story.html
Keith P.
Been up since 2am checking for my first paycheck showing up in my account (it hasn’t). Out of work for 2 months post-hospitalization (2nd month was pure delays starting the job), so I am all out of IOUs and lateness on bills. Needless to say, not seeing a paycheck in my account amped my stress levels up to no end. Constantly having to count on other people to adhere to a schedule is one of those triggers that lead me wanting to cut off what remaining interaction I have left with the outside world. Inevitably, they fail, and inevitably, I’m the one who has to take the shit for it (this one is trying to keep the lights on and my car from being repo’ed…I get hella upset thinking about it because I was telling the agency weeks ago that I am stretched to my limit, but I still had another 3 weeks of delays on starting work, now I’m getting delayed on getting paid for it)
SFAW
Speaking of wombat asses: just perused a “news” article in the formerly-liberal Boston Globe, discussing Michelle Obama’s campaigning, and calling her mic-tap appearance “strident.” The “reporter” lamented how Michelle’s campaigning is unprecedented, how Lady Bird (insert obligatory “Fuck LBJ!”) was not a campaigner, how Laura Bush only did joint appearances with Cindy McCain, etc.
Interesting choice of the word “strident.” I guess the “reporter” decided “shrill” belongs only to Krugman. And, maybe I missed it (because the article seemed to be more-of-the-same bullshit), but I didn’t see a whole lot about how often Mrs. Obama has been attacked during this Presidency.
Fuck the Globe, fucking Herald lite
Beautifulplumage
Honey Badger + Wombat = ???????
workworkwork
Having trouble sleeping.
Looks like I’ll be getting a splenectomy later today. (short version: immune system problems, no platelets, no clotting, potential cerebral hemorrhage)
Originally they were going to wait a few days for observation but yesterday I spoke with the surgeon and hematologist and they decided to move the timetable up pretty dramatically. I’m not sure if this indicates they feel I’m at such risk that they felt doing it sooner was a better choice. Maybe they just need the bed.
Also on my mind: my oldest brother called me from the road last night and instead of offering me his support, he started an argument with me. A really stupid one, too. He asked me a medical question about my condition, I did a search to find an authoritative answer and he argued with the answer. As an educator, this is one of my hot buttons so I went off on him. (I can’t do this with students.)
He hung up on me.
So I’ve been awake for a while replaying the conversation in my head in different ways and decided to get up, send him an email about it (no f-bombs) telling him that if he wants to engage me as a brother, he’s more than welcome. But if he’s going to act like some random stranger sitting next to me at a Kodiak bar, then I’d appreciate it if he’d wait until after I get through the surgery. I reminded him that even though I’m almost sixty, I’m still his little brother and I deserve that much consideration.
Sorry to dump this on all of you, but sometimes I have to get the thoughts out of my head so I can get back to sleep and writing is my main way of doing that.
Villago Delenda Est
@SFAW: Well, blah, you know.
JPL
For those without cable, weather.com is streaming the weather channel online. The good news so far is that the eye is staying further off the coast, but the storm is still dangerous.
Immanentize
@Beautifulplumage: a hard-ass, ball buster? Like my last boss?
OzarkHillbilly
@Debbie(aussie): You left out the snakes, the poisonous snakes.
@Cermet: It did weaken from a IV to a III, did it not? How exactly are they supposed to say it?
kindness
Is Chris Cristie playing Sir Buttsalot?
Matt McIrvin
@JPL: It’s great news, but it’s also going to play into all the Drudgian conspiracy-mongering.
People are playing such foolish, dangerous games when they erode people’s trust in storm predictions with conspiracy theories. There’s always uncertainty, and forecasters have a responsibility to warn people of the reasonable worst case. But now everyone who listens to Limbaugh is going to be that much more reluctant to evacuate for the next storm.
SFAW
@Keith P.:
Well THAT sucks. I hope it arrives in your account today. Being made to wait to get paid sucks.
Good luck!
Beautifulplumage
Imannentize: Bite my ass, I don’t give a fuck?
Baud…..2020 slogan?
(and safety + minimal damage to all dealing with hurr Matthew )
SFAW
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yeah, but still, it’s the fucking Globe. John Henry has (I’m guessing) a moderate amount of love for bringing World Series rings back to Boston, but his (and Michael Sheehan’s) destruction of the Globe has been upsetting (to me, at least). I wish the ghost of Kay Graham would come to him, Marley-esque.
PS: Michael Sheehan is the Globe CEO
Villago Delenda Est
@Matt McIrvin: Just think of it as Darwin in action.
debbie
@Keith P.:
Never mind.
Baud
Saw my first Trump ad on MSNBC. It was sad. Like an ad you’d see for a Congressional seat.
debbie
@Villago Delenda Est:
More woman than blah, I think.
Keith P.
@SFAW: I just now got word that it’s being sent to me (would have been REAL nice to have known that ahead of time so I could, uh, PLAN FOR IT!). It’s supposed to arrive today, but given it’s a paper check, there’s very strong odds that Bank of America will put a 2 week hold on the check (been a recurring problem with them and paper checks…they randomly do that) This means that I have to take even more time out of my day to go deal with *that*…drive to the bank, wait in line, explain that I can’t afford any holds on the deposit, get runaround, speak to a manager, etc. So very, very sick of living in society. I tell people I am at the end of my rope, and they still push…I try to avoid having to deal with people, then I get forced into having to do it, and it ends up being a shitshow. I don’t exaggerate when I tell people that I’m not really all that broken up about being near the end of my life, as it’s not really particularly enjoyable. Basically a bunch of this shit almost every week, for years on end.
debbie
@Baud:
Tough to do when your writing abilities only extend to 140 characters.
Hal
@Keith P.: can you take the check to the bank listed on it, cash it, and then deposit the money at bofa? I did that years ago when I had a boban account with a check from Wells Fargo.
Cermet
@Keith P.: Really sorry to hear; hope the AO’s get their act together and pay you!
Iowa Old Lady
@Keith P.: Oh man. First of all, a paper pay check? I haven’t seen one of those in decades. I hope the bank surprises you by being cooperative. Hang in there. Enjoy some small pleasure.
OzarkHillbilly
@Keith P.:
You need a new bank. I recently deposited a $3K check. They put a 3 day hold on it, and then released it 24 hrs later.
This is a small town bank w/o all the Wall Street shysters figuring a way to make a few extra cents on a dollar they hold for 2 weeks. Probably the difference.
Villago Delenda Est
@debbie: You’re probably right.
The mic tap thing was, IMHO, brilliant.
Keith P.
@Iowa Old Lady: Sadly, about the only thing I get pleasure from is being left in peace. But no matter how hard I try, I’ve always got somebody up my ass (I fucking HATE smartphones…it’s a hub for people to go up my ass. All day and night, it’s alert after alert from people wanting something from me) It’s amplified by being on dialysis, because not only am I now required to interact with people 3 times a week, it’s medical staff, who are a bunch of stubborn, passive-aggressive dickheads who all assume my #1 concern is dealing with them, and none of them coordinate, so it’s often a *line* of them one after another demanding my attention. Quite sick of it all. I just want to make it through the Twin Peaks revival and the end of Game of Thrones….after that there’s nothing left that the world has to offer me.
Cermet
@OzarkHillbilly: They need not report the storm becoming Cat III in a manner that creates an impression that it is weak; this is obvious even to some of the news sights since they often add that it is still dangerous. Some radio news is really bad with leads of “It has weaken to a Cat III” and no mention of how really powerful such a storm is. For instance: “Mathew is now a Cat. III hurricane”; rather than “Mathew has weaken to a Cat III.” Or “Mathew, now a Cat III storm, with wind gusts of 160 mph …” Not to difficult to be both clear and precise.
Betty Cracker
@Matt McIrvin:
Oh well! Circle of life, etc.
Cermet
@Keith P.: Not that it matters at all this instance, but you are being paid and don’t have to wonder how you will start to pay your bills. It is looking up! Remember that, at least. Again, sorry for the terrible hassle you are having.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Hey! How’s it hangin?
We’re having a screen door made by a guy who looks to be a very good carpenter. I don’t know why but or builder made the space for the screen door 3/4 so we are suck with that for the door thickness, He found some recycled heart pine and is going to use that. He’s got it paled and cut and it looks great. We were going to paint it but it seems a shame to paint that beautiful wood so we want to use oil on it. He recommends WaterLox for the job and I just wondered what you thought?
Chris T.
In Oz-stralia, even the trees will try to kill you!
Obligatory SWLG video
JPL
@Keith P.: I’m sorry. Maybe the bank will surprise you.
Cermet
@Keith P.: Consider depression meds; they can help a lot. Also, look into alternate therapies for dialysis – some can reduce the need for that a great deal – look up charcoal therapies. Of course, consult with your MD before trying such things.
debbie
@Keith P.:
Back when I was freelancing and was paid with paper checks, the bank would make a portion of each check available immediately. BOA doesn’t do anything like that?
Kay
@debbie:
I hope she pulls a little further ahead in Ohio. It isn’t necessary for her to win the state but if it’s as close as it looks right now (PPP has her at 2 points up) we could get into contested territory. Imagine the shitshow of all of cable screeching about voter fraud and weeks of misinformation and moronic reporting coming from people who don’t know election process and law. These are the people who regularly report that “dead people are voting” when they find deceased people on voter rolls, and they will ALWAYS find deceased people on voter rolls.
They still haven’t mastered the difference between “registered” and “voting”.
Baud
@Kay: I can’t believe the dead don’t have the courtesy to change their voter registration information.
Keith P.
@Cermet: I know you are trying to help, but seriously (and I unfortunately have had this conversation too many times), alternative medicine for something like ESRD* is not just foolish, but deadly. 1 week without it, and I am swollen and nauseous (I’ve only dared going 5 days without it). 2 weeks, and I am dead. No charcoal is going to fix that. To your credit, you didn’t suggest watermelon juice, which a friend of mine has…repeatedly. Why? Because he saw some show on TV that said cooking food is killing us by destroying essential enzymes. The problem is that a) watermelon juice is fluid, which I *must* avoid, and b) it’s loaded with potassium, which can cause sudden cardiac arrest. Given how many times I’ve been in the hospital with heart failure, I don’t even want to be polite about saying “no thanks” any more because I’m literally getting deadly advice over and over again (from the same people)
* End-Stage Renal Disease, meaning my kidneys are DONE. No lemon juice, aromatheraphy, charcoal, enemas, or whatever is going to change that. There are two destinations – kidney transplant (most of my friends stopped being friends once I needed a transplant) and death.
workworkwork
I think FYWP ate my first comment in this thread.
Didn’t use any bad words or bare links, I think.
Can one of the mods check this?
They’re planning the splenectomy for today. I couldn’t sleep and decided to vent here.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven:
It’s as good as anything else out there.
Cermet
@Kay: @Kay: Anything that suck’s oxygen from the tRump coffers is very positive. Rather than being in Florida (they are suffering enough, one would think?) the tRump will have to spend time in Ohio …which might be justice for both parties … .
Punchy
I once dated a chick with an ass like that.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: K den.
debbie
@Kay:
Don’t listen to NPR this morning if you want to keep your hopes alive. They’ve been interviewing people in and around Cincinnati. I’m beginning to hate Buckeyes.
WereBear
@Keith P.: That is a massive load of stupidity and inefficiency. Illness in the USA: dealing with even higher levels of such crap: while sick!
Baud
@debbie: The media had been promoting anti-Hillary people and silencing Hillary supporters. It’s a known thing.
satby
@Keith P.: Been there, but without the health issues. Hang in there, and let us know if it never shows up. Take care of you, try to let this other stuff roll off.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Family members need to contact the voting jurisdiction when a family member dies. Election authorities have enough to worry about.
Cermet
@Keith P.:Sorry but currently, charcoal is being used as the therapy for people over 80 who do not want to use dialysis; that said, I never suggested they not use dialysis nor, in any manner not follow know medical therapies not under their MD’s approval. For instance, diet restrictions are also an alternate therapy as well that MD’s suggest for many issues, including kidney failure. What makes you think that alternate means not currently used by the medical profession? You are jumping the gun, there cowboy. I never suggest alternate MEDICINE! Only alternate therapies – for instance, some times stains are dangerous for a given person so using an alternate therapy is required; like a drug that uses a different method – Bile elimination, for instance. Mellon juice? Really? LOL
Aside: I do NOT support alt medicine; only scientifically proven therapies.
donnah
Hillary’s TV ads are great. Her team has taken footage and audio of Trump’s actual words and shown them in all their hateful glory. The “ugly” girl commercial and the Trump finger on the red button are perfect ways to show him at his worst and weakest. And he can’t dispute what he said.
Trump’s ads are just starting here. The NRA-sponsored ones with the woman whose house is broken into and the one with the woman who faced off with a mugger are pure fear mongering. His other ad is about tax breaks, which ought to have a tag line about how much it will increase the national debt.
Another month of this horrible clown show. ugh.
Keith P.
@debbie: They make $100 available, which doesn’t help me since I’ve got a -$450 balance (I had multiple autodeductions go through all on 1 day, then BofA hit me with a blanket $35 overdraft fee plus $35 for each transaction plus another $35 for the negative balance lasting for over a week.) They’ve actually hit me with that extended penalty before even after I deposited a paycheck because they kept a hold on a check as I kept eating auto-withdrawls (they’re not supposed to do that). I had to raise serious hell to get them to return my money, which ticks me off because it’s a headache I just don’t need.
Central Planning
@Keith P.: awkward sentence but: try going to a branch of the bank where the check was drawn. Cash it, since the account should have the cash in it.
OzarkHillbilly
@Keith P.: I got nothin’, except wish it weren’t so.
Kay
@debbie:
Oh, I have more than “hope alive”. She won’t win by more than three but I think she’ll win. Her campaign people are doggedly (if warily) optimistic.
Ohio is always a couple of points. They’re judging her using a bullshit margin. They’ve decided she should be 10 points up.
satby
@workworkwork: What happened? I thought you were heading home for outpatient care?
Face
@Kay: None of this will matter when the Russians hack the systems of all the swing states and give Trump resounding 88% to 11% wins. And no, that wont look suspicious at all.
SFAW
@Keith P.:
I thought Federal law changed so that it can only be a three-day-hold maximum? (I’m assuming you weren’t just exaggerating for effect with the two-week hold comment.) Of course, BofA being a bank for which the phrase “dickheads” was coined, they’d probably make it three full business days (i.e., you show up at 9:32 AM on a Monday, but their “day” starts at 8:00 AM, so the three-day-count starts on Tuesday, and they drag it out to 5 PM on Thursday, etc, etc.
The above is all speculation; I might be completely fucking wrong about everything (except Bank of America being dickheads). But you might consider calling another bank, and asking them about the 3-day-hold thing, whether it’s law, or merely “common practice.”
Best of luck, I’ll keep you in my thoughts. (Not that doing so will do you any good.)
Kay
@rikyrah:
It works okay without that if people would stop freaking out and reporting misinformation. There’s a process for inactive voters. They get 2 years of inactivity and then a series of notices. It’s a due process protection and it protects everyone. We don’t want aggressive culling of voter rolls. There will be errors. Better to err on the side of the voter.
It worked fine before there was a “voter fraud!” grift on the Right. They discovered dead people weren’t removed for 2 years and they blew it up into “scandal!”
JPL
In today’s news, why did the chicken cross the road.. link
Cermet
@Keith P.: Forgot to add: I am extremely sorry for your condition; I too, have major organ failure (solely due to stains; turns out liver tests can be worthless) and understand how difficult these issues can be. I have no alternative except living on the edge waiting for the final push – you are lucky that there is something you can do to alleviate your organ failure.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Oh, and make sure you finish ALL 6 SIDES, including top and bottom. Otherwise it will close just fine in the winter and not at all in your humid summers. (can’t count the # of times I’ve told people that only to be called back to trim a door they never finished the bottom of)
Eunicecycle
@debbie: I know, as a fellow Buckeye, if Trump wins Ohio I want to leave because I can’t stand the thought of living with so many nutcases. On the other hand, I do know Republicans who are voting for Hillary (anecdotes not data, I know!). Do you notice the media seems to seek out Trump supporters? I hardly ever hear anyone interview a Hillary supporter. I think it’s because Trump supporters are more likely to say something, shall we say, noteworthy.
TheMightyTrowel
Don’t be fooled by their cute faces. Wombats are deadly killing machines.
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks, we’re paying a premium for this door so I’ve got no problem making sure he does so.
MomSense
@Keith P.:
Damn, Keith P I’m sorry. It seems like direct deposit shouldn’t be this difficult to set up.
SFAW
@Face:
Sam Bee’s kids interviewed some Trumpidiots regarding the election being “rigged.” Well, you coulda knocked me over with a feather when they each said that if Hillary wins, the election was rigged, but if Trump wins, it wasn’t.
The lack of self-awareness and intelligence would be stunning, had it not been obvious for so long.
Betty Cracker
@donnah: The only Trump ad I’ve seen so far is one that shows him bellowing dumb platitudes at a rally. Not very effective. There are some PAC-funded anti-Hillary ads showing her in sinister lighting and alleging many misdeeds.
PIGL
@Chris T.: it’s like Middle Earth, that way.
Kay
@Face:
They won’t be able to do it in my county because we have a paper ballot with a scanner. The paper ballot is there for an audit.
There will be immediate questions if precincts and counties skew wildly from past elections because they’re not that volatile. In my county we are fighting over 1000 swing votes. That’s it. It can be 8000 for the D or it can be 7000 for the D. It just doesn’t work like that, where a weird result would go unnoticed.
Campaigns have swing states down to a science. They know what they are looking for in each of Ohio’s 88 counties-the same is true in Florida.
They COULD hack it if there isn’t paper or a digital trail for an audit AND they kept it close AND they didn’t do anything dumb like 80/20.
TheMightyTrowel
@OzarkHillbilly: previous owners of my flat in Britain did that. They also double glazed without ventilating properly. My first winter in that flat Mr Trowel and i had to strip plaster off a wall so affected by damp it was growing mold; drill holes in a bunch of the exterior walls and hang a new door after the unfinished one got so damp inside it rotted from the inside out.
Protip: never install a new door and frame in mid winter. Brrrrr!
MomSense
@workworkwork:
Wait, what?? Here we all were happily thinking you were going home. Really, sorry triple W.
OzarkHillbilly
@workworkwork: Better vent it while you still can. ;-) (sorry for the gallows humor but I could not resist)
Gin & Tonic
@workworkwork: You may not be in the best position for this now, but did you get a second opinion on the splenectomy? My son recovered well from his ITP without a splenectomy.
Kay
@Face:
I personally think they should always retain a paper voter record. Trust in the process is important. If people want that for reassurance they should get it. Trust is undervalued, IMO.
I see it in courts. We have big class divisions where I live. Lower income people are often convinced that fancy people, people in power, are rigging things against them. It affects everything from the high school basketball team to the court. I understand this and sympathize with it. If I can explain to them that their petition was denied (or whatever!) because there are a set of rules that apply to everyone they are reassured. It ISN’T arbitrary. The reason they didn’t get a grace period on property tax is BECAUSE of something- they missed the 15 days, they didn’t file something. They ALL think it’s bias and most of the time it’s not. They have very little trust.
OzarkHillbilly
@Betty Cracker: If Hillary shaved her head she’d look just like Lex Luthor.
satby
@Cermet: Sorry to hear that as well Cermet. No option for transplant for you?
MazeDancer
@Keith P.:
Take the check to the issuing bank. As others have said, they will give you the cash. That is what a check is. Promise the issuing bank will give you money from the signer’s account. You show ID, they give you money.
So sorry you have so much swirl of difficulty around you. May a ray of light shine through.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay:
Not by Republicans. That’s why they undermine it every chance they get: “Taxes are theft!” “The govt is going to steal your guns!” “Planned Parenthood kills babies!” “Voter fraud!”
Face
@Kay: True, but Russians dont know elections that go anything but 90-10. So thats what they’ll go with.
MomSense
I love Samantha Bee. Her take down of LePage and warning about der Trump is wicked good.
Maine
nonynony
@Kay:
I can’t blame them because it actually is bias, just not in the way they think. The rich guys can afford to pay people to remember things for them and experts to figure out what the procedures are for them. The not-so-rich-but-still-okay among us can afford to do that every once in a while when it’s really important (like hiring an accountant to do tax returns for you – or even paying for Turbotax for that matter).
If you’ve got little to no money you can’t do that.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
It amazes me when people piss it away because it’s so hard to earn! It’s like money in the bank, it really is and none of CURRENT people earned it. They’re gleefully pissing away something of value someone else earned and gave them.
It isn’t a given that The Supreme Court has institutional credibility. There are plenty of places where courts are discredited. That was HANDED to them. It’s a godammned gift. Treat it like one.
I shudder when I see it, because people with no power are waiting for this- they started with the assumption things were rigged against them. Don’t feed into it! Don’t have every fancy person in town kids play in the basketball game and the other kids sit on the bench because they are looking for this! They recognize it immediately.
Oldgold
At Kos there is a remarkable diary concerning Trump’s involvement in the modeling ‘industry.’ It is long, but very much worth taking your time to read. Probably the best diary i have ever read st Kos. Shocking stuff.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/06/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1
Kay
@nonynony:
Oh, there’s bias. It’s just not every time or even most of the time. It’s enough to make the grain of truth and that’s all they need. I don’t blame them but it honestly gets in their way a lot. You need SOME trust to operate in any system. It can’t be missing or you won’t try.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: The only Hillary signs I’ve seen around here is “A vote for Hillary is a vote for the end of Democracy”. It’s the only coin they have and they spend it on everything.
Bruce K
If you find anything about wombats interesting, I can recommend the webcomic/graphic novel Digger, by Ursula Vernon, winner of the 2012 Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story.
Even if you don’t find anything about wombats interesting, my recommendation stands. Oh, and it extends to all of her writing, including stuff written under her occasional pen name of T. Kingfisher.
Phylllis
@workworkwork: Saw what you did there. Throwing out good vibes to the universe for you. And Keith P. as well.
Jeffro
Gawd that’s an awesome ad…I may have to drop one more donation in her bucket just for being that amazing…
Bonus: if you re-watch it and picture Trump trying to say the exact same words, sincerely, you’ll bust out laughing and scare your co-workers. BELIEVE ME.
eyelessgame
I find it hilarious that the Washington Post would write an article about a form of Australian wildlife and include the word “fannies”. “Fanny”, which we Americans use as a breezy synonym for gluteus maximus, is in Australia a rude and offensive slang synonym for female genitalia (that is, it is the Aussie equivalent of the C-word.)
eric
@eyelessgame: it’s all English, mate. not as if you need cultural fact checkers. just ask Reebok on its “Incubus” running shoe in Japan.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
I try not to be mad all the time but I admit the “lock her up” signs get to me.
Fuck off with locking people up, you fascists.
WaterGirl
@Keith P.: You are probably long gone for today, but I believe that they NEVER put a hold on a payroll check. So you may be just fine!
WaterGirl
@Iowa Old Lady: A paper check is quite common for the first check at a new job – they often don’t have the ACH payments set up yet and they want you to get your money.
The Golux
@Luthe:
And, per Wikipedia, a group of wombats is called a wisdom.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: You and me both. If one’s answer to your political opponents is to throw them in jail, yes you are a fascist. Still trying to come up with the right words to piss off all the Trumpsters, but doing it in such a way that to react is to acknowledge their assholeness.
eric
@OzarkHillbilly: i think it is more nuanced than that, because if Dick Cheney were to run for something now, i think the near universal chorus among the Left is that he should be in jail. It is not the “lock her up” that is offensive, but the emotional and factless drivers behind the sentiment.
WaterGirl
@raven: hey raven. I had my screen doors made for the new porch this summer, and I love love love the product he used. The doors were made out of douglas fir and they are a gorgeous color, and I couldn’t be happier with the result.
It was called General Finishes Exterior 450. He used FLAT, but he has used their SATIN product on some interior surfaces and he said that’s nice, too, if you want more sheen.
hovercraft
@SFAW:
WTF.
Is she overstepping her bounds again? What the hell is wrong with her, first she tells us to eat healthy and to get our kids to exercise, and then she says we need to waste time and money educating girls? Now to top it all off, she’s out there stumping for Hillary? What part of just smiling and saying I support my husband, does she not understand? This is what happens when you let them get uppity.
OzarkHillbilly
@WaterGirl: Obviously, you never worked for some of the people I worked for.
raven
@WaterGirl: Ah cool, here’s what it looks like.
OzarkHillbilly
@eric: point taken.
ETA: the difference being Hillary as far as anyone can figure out is not guilty of anything more than a misdemeanor and Cheney is a self admitted war criminal.
workworkwork
@satby: Given that my platelets weren’t coming up, they could not let me walk out of here. At least not without signing a release that if I did that, bumped my head and died, it’s not their fault since they warned me.
raven
@WaterGirl: A bunch of my friends are there for the Red Lion Reunion this weekend. They say this is the last one.
workworkwork
@MomSense: Me, too. But when I wasn’t improving, we switched to thinking about how to get me out of here safely in as short a time as possible.
Options:
Another three weeks in hospital to see if the chemo works. If not, then splenectomy.
Go ahead with the splenectomy then 3-4 days recovery in hospital, 4-6 weeks at home.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
I know.
My comment was in the vein of “You’re the fucking Globe! Have some self-respect!” Similar to how some of us feel about the NYT, and their Trump-fluffing — it’s the Times, goddammit! It’s not some rag like the Lowell Sun (disclaimer: how the Sun was 15 years ago, don’t know how it is now).
I’ve done the digital-subscription thing for the Globe when they run a sale, but I find I don’t go there. Plus, the last time I actually did, it was a PITA to navigate.
But it’s somewhat depressing to think that there’s no large liberal paper here any more.
Thanks, Obama.
Punchy
The wombats I saw in Brisbane looked like ginormous guinea pigs. Didn’t pay much attention to their caboose, though.
workworkwork
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks. My brother is the oldest and has always been a bit of a jerk.
On the brighter side, my brother-in-law displays very little emotional empathy (Republican, but voting for Hillary) and he called to discuss any concerns I had about handling the finances for my care and that of my wife and offer his assistance and advice. So there’s that.
workworkwork
@Gin & Tonic: Details?
They started with platelet infusion and immunoglobulin then moved to Rituxan. The counts aren’t budging so far.
workworkwork
@Phylllis: Thanks. Looks like we all could use some extra hugs.
The puppy posts help.
SFAW
@hovercraft:
On the plus side, they’re not (yet) asking her to sing “Swing Low, Sweet Chariot” or “De Camptown Races.” Nor are they asking her to emulate Lincoln Theodore Perry.
I was also going to mention her being uppity, but you got that covered.
MomSense
@workworkwork:
I can imagine your hematologist is not thrilled about surgery with your platelets in this state or have the numbers improved? Chemo may be safer but I don’t know how it may adversely affect the platelet problem. Did they discover the problem with the spleen after they were planning your discharge? Ok, forget answering my stupid questions unless you feel like venting.
Ugh. I’m sorry you are dealing with all of this. I have a platelet disorder that creates all kinds of problems (not the same thing you have) so I do appreciate how frustrating it can be.
MattF
@The Golux: And, despite rumors to the contrary, a group of baboons is a ‘troop’, not a ‘congress’.
Major Major Major Major
@MattF: But a group of owls is a ‘parliament’!
I think my favorite is probably “a confusion of weasels”.
MomSense
On a lighter note, I am no longer afraid of seeing another bear in the woods. I’m more worried about clowns!
a thousand flouncing lurkers (formerly fidelioscabinet)
@workworkwork:
You know, even if all your brother’s BS was displacement, it was still dickish. And counterproductive, if he was trying to express concern, however incompetently. Because nothing says “You are my brother and I am both worried about you and freaked out by what’s happening,” like starting a fight.
I hope surgery goes OK.
MomSense
@Cermet:
Really sorry to hear about your condition.
OzarkHillbilly
@Major Major Major Major: A ‘murder of crows’ still wins hands down.
Barbara
@Keith P.: Keith, if you can contact me offline I will try to help you. It’s sad and infuriating that you are in this position. Not sure how to connect, and I hesitate to publish my “real” email, but if you use the one attached to the blog, or maybe go through one of the moderators, and tell me that you have emailed me — I will respond. Or maybe if you are not afraid of publishing yours, I can email you offline.
Tenar Darell
@Bruce K: She’s GOH at Arisia this upcoming year ?
Gin & Tonic
@MomSense: If, as I suspect, www has what my son had, the theory is that the spleen is eating the platelets. The problem with the splenectomy is that a) it’s invasive surgery at a time when your blood isn’t clotting; b) once you remove it, it’s gone for good; and c) it may not help anyway. We leaned heavily against the splenectomy, but my son was much younger than www, and the circumstances of his hospitalization were different. After about 10 days, after IG didn’t work they thought they saw slight progress with the rituximab (that’s what www is referring to as “chemo” if I’m not mistaken.) Once he got above 10,000 they were more inclined to let him out. That’s still dangerously low, but not critically low, and he lived only a couple of blocks from the hospital so it was almost-but-not-quite AMA.
Barbara
@OzarkHillbilly: Wow, so I now know the origin of the title of the Counting Crows song “Murder of One.”
Miss Bianca
@workworkwork: Ohh…sadness. Such familial stress on top of surgery! Wishing you well from the Central Mountains!
OzarkHillbilly
@MomSense: I don’t get the being afraid of clowns thing. I just don’t get it. 3 yr olds playing with Mom’s gun at Walmart? Sure, but outside of a Stephen King novel, when has a clown hurt some one?
Major Major Major Major
@OzarkHillbilly: It’s a little played out, don’t you think?
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly:
They’re fine with trust, as long as it’s trust of the right people: police, soldiers (unless they turn out to be Democrats), their pastor, powerful white daddy figures in general. The institutions they mistrust are any that they see as working to upend the hierarchy they want in place.
Barbara
@workworkwork: This is far afield. Where I grew up we have a lot of old brick roads with ruts that cars have worn in them over time. Some are so deep you don’t even need to use the steering wheel — the car just goes where the ruts do. It was a favorite trick of my older sister to demonstrate that was the case when she got her driver’s license and she was allowed to take the car by herself. That’s what family dynamics often become — so well-worn they just happen automatically, and it takes enormous effort and, usually, separation, to break the pattern. Good luck with your treatment. You can live without a spleen, I know people who have done it.
Denali
@Keith P,
I am sorry. Hope today is better for you.
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly: I get it. Traditional clown makeup was for the circus and was made to be seen from a long way away, which turns it into just a jolly cartoon face. See a clown close-up, either in person or on TV or something, and you see the real face underneath competing for attention with the makeup, and it just turns into an unsetting Uncanny Valley experience. Human but not-human. The clown becomes a disturbing liminal creature.
OzarkHillbilly
@Major Major Major Major: The classics never die.
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly: …or, as Jack Handey once said: “To me, clowns aren’t funny. In fact, they’re kind of scary. I’ve wondered where this started, and I think to goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.”
MomSense
@Gin & Tonic:
Ah, got it. Is your son better now?
@OzarkHillbilly:
People are either terrified of clowns or meh about them. Well I do live in Stephen King country so that could have something to do with it. I think this clown mess started with attempted abductions and maybe one of them pulled a knife on a kid?
OzarkHillbilly
@Matt McIrvin: I just see a person with a bunch of crap on their face, but I understand what you are saying.
Gin & Tonic
@MomSense:
Yes, thanks. This was a few years ago, so while it took several months for his counts to get back in the normal range, he is fully recovered (and still has all his original organs.)
But, honestly, taking medical advice from random anonymous people on the Internet is probably not a good plan.
RaflW
It seems we don’t need to reserve our schadenfreude for the GOP. It seems the lead Brexiteers and party of racist Trumpster Nigel Farage are falling apart.
OzarkHillbilly
@MomSense: You’re from Maine? Well, that explains a lot. ;-)
The first I heard of it was “Somebody called 911 and reported seeing a clown.” Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, I have read since then has all been mildly disturbed bordering on full on meltdown. It’s all been the equivalent of “My buddy has a friend who’s cousin’s sister….” Now we have people threatening to shoot anyone who looks like a clown (why is Trump still alive?) to cops threatening to arrest anyone who dresses as a clown (when did wearing white make up and a red nose and an orange wig become against the law?).
It is pure hysteria bordering on the ludicrous. Monty Python needs to make a movie about 2016.
peach flavored shampoo
TPM has a schizophrenic “poll tracker”. Just ~12 hours ago, HRC had a 5-6% lead in nat’n polls. Suddenly that’s down to 1.5%. Can this really be due to a VP debate? If so, why would HRC’s decline precipitously while Trump’s numbers also decline, but slightly? Wouldn’t a bump from a debate keep the “loser” about even while raising the “winner”s numbers?
No, I’m not really worried, esp. when one looks at the state polls. But something seems extraordinarily unstable about Josh’s algorithms, unless somehow, indeed, HRC is tanking in many major polls simultaneously.
amk
@peach flavored shampoo:
Drew Linzer (who got it perfect in 2012) via dkos. – From a low 62% to 86% today in just two weeks for hillz.
RaflW
Oh, also that HRC video was great. I like the semi-subtle digs at Trump with the skyscraper and bank account lines.
Things like this do help me feel more like I’m voting for Hillary rather than just against Trump/the GOP. Which I’m sure is the goal. She’s gonna need the support of a lot of Dems when she is elected and the grinding maw of the GOP hate-machine + the media’s well known Clinton bitterness comes to force, in, say, about 12 seconds after the votes are in.
So good for her and her team for doing some positive policy & biography work. CW is that you do that early, but it I think works now too, as part of the larger media mix with the hard-hitting attacks.
oldgold
@peach flavored shampoo:
I like Josh and TPM, but the TPM Poll Tracker is as worthless as tits on a boar.
Major Major Major Major
@amk: Sam Wang was at 92% last I checked and I very much like his model, methodologically.
@peach flavored shampoo: frankly that graph looks like it has to be a typo. HuffPo shows nothing.
WaterGirl
@raven: nice!
Matt McIrvin
@peach flavored shampoo: Looks like about four polls with historically Republican leans happened to drop around the same time. Rasmussen, UPI/CVOTER, the LA Times one, and Morning Consult. Rasmussen and UPI were the only two I can find that showed Trump not just ahead but gaining after the first presidential debate.
WaterGirl
@raven: wow, 50 years! i had no idea it was this weekend.
Omnes Omnibus
@OzarkHillbilly:
Three words: John Wayne Gacy.
hovercraft
@peach flavored shampoo:
The 2 new polls they added today are very GOP friendly, Rassmussen and Morning Consult
RCP Average 9/26 – 10/6 — — 48.1 43.8 Clinton +4.3
Huffpo
Clinton44.1%
Trump38.7%
Johnson8.0%
Undecided6.0%
Other3.3%
538 has her at 79.3 and Trump at 20.7
Princeton
Snapshot (167 state polls): Clinton 323, Trump 215 EV Meta-margin: Clinton +3.3%
RSS
Clinton Nov. win probability: random drift 88%, Bayesian 93%
Matt McIrvin
…I think the USC/LA Times one is one of the RAND-style polls that tracks a constant set of voters over time, so any systematic sampling problems with that group are permanently baked in. You’d expect it to track short-term changes well (apart from any distortions that come from these people not being a naive sample) but not the overall absolute state of the race.
hovercraft
@Matt McIrvin:
You are correct, just an FYI, UPI/CVOTER, the LA Times, are3 not included in the average according to his chart. But yes TPM sucks at this.
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly: There have been some real cases here and there, but they seem to be copycats inspired by the hysteria. Clown-fear is something that was slowly baking in pop culture for decades, but I think this one literally started with nothing, a pure kid rumor that blew up, got media coverage and then inspired actual crimes.
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: why would TPM show such a hockeystick graph though? Pollster/HuffPo has those included and it’s same as it was yesterday.
ETA: at any rate, keep calm and read Sam wang, the stablest American presidential election since the advent of modern polling.
raven
@Matt McIrvin: They are going to have a ell of a time at the Athens Wild Rumpus
Matt McIrvin
@hovercraft: I see. I think that if you aggregate national polls, heavy smoothing is probably called for, because a lot of the short-term variation is just differences in the systematic biases of whichever firm dropped last.
germy
@Major Major Major Major:
Why am I reminded of a republican congress?
Matt McIrvin
@hovercraft: …they don’t include Rasmussen but they do include Gravis/Breitbart, which is probably worse.
Probably better to look at state aggregates, anyway.
liberal
@Cermet: “Stains”? You mean “statins”?
Major Major Major Major
@germy: how dare you! The weasel is a noble creature. Surely you wouldn’t say something like that about their close cousins the otters.
germy
Rudy Giuliani’s Daughter Is Voting for Hillary Clinton
germy
ny magazine
Matt McIrvin
@Major Major Major Major: Different averaging protocols. They can make a lot of difference. Among other things, HuffPo tracks 2-way and 4-way averages separately. And even on that site, you can often get a radically different picture of the state of the race by making a custom graph with different smoothing procedures. Pick “less smoothing” on the 2-way and it drops to a one-point Clinton lead, I think entirely because of the Rasmussen.
germy
@Major Major Major Major: The weasel has gotten a bad reputation over the years because of comparisons to the republican congress. I apologize for adding to the confusion.
germy
People on Trump’s side are pointing to a magical, unreported voter who will vote for Trump but is too ashamed to admit it to pollsters.
I’ve also seen the same point made here, that many republican women will quietly vote for HRC but are too afraid to admit it to pollsters or their wingnut husbands.
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
Hell, even I am pretty calm about this, and we know what a worrier I have been. I’m semi-obsessive about checking updates from Nate and Sam (looking more for trending variations than anything else), and it’s all been pretty damn good since the debate. In a normal year, I would not have thought that a single debate would have had so much effect. But I expect people finally saw Trump for the nutcase that he is, and combined with his Machado-bashing, I imagine a lot of people were going “WTF?”
Only thing left to worry about is making sure that turnout is high. Gotta make sure I contact Craig (?) McMahon.
SFAW
@germy:
Maybe they can get Dean Chambers to help them with that.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: there’s been little to panic about as the race hasn’t really changed since February. But then again I would say that, I’m part of the Cult of Wang.
Matt McIrvin
@germy: The problem with the shy-Trumpster hypothesis is that Trump’s primary polling didn’t particularly underrate his performance (people speak of his win as a surprise, but if you believed the polls instead of a bunch of pundits, it wasn’t at all). So now you have to posit some reason that the shy Trumpsters would come out for the general election but not for the primary. You can come up with such hypotheses–maybe they’re Trump Democrats or independents, maybe it’s a socioeconomic thing. But you do have to pile explanations on explanations.
A lot of this is just reasoning by vague analogy from Brexit or the FARC vote in Colombia, which are real apples-and-oranges comparisons. It ultimately comes down to Romney-yard-sign sorts of arguments.
germy
@Matt McIrvin: That’s true. They weren’t shy during the primaries. I think it’s just wishful thinking that some of his supporters are embracing.
He’s sewing the seeds for “it was rigged, she stole the election!” which I’m concerned may lead to violence. And it won’t be the pundits who are attacked.
Matt McIrvin
@germy: And fearful thinking from Democrats, because Democrats are really good at that.
germy
@SFAW: Dean Chambers. Is he the one who calls Obama “The Great Destroyer”?
catclub
@Baud: Yep. Find the lifelong union member who is voting for Trump.
Find the educated suburban white woman who is voting for Trump.
…
Find the black guy who is voting for Clinton.
germy
@Matt McIrvin:
Hillary pulled her ads from the Weather Channel because republicans found it unseemly. If it had been a republican running those ads, and democrats complained, the republicans would be all “Fuck yeah we’re running them! And fuck you!”
Something about decent people running against assholes.
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, I disagree to some extent. Hillary’s trend from early August to early/mid-September was pretty bad, even at PEC. Back in August, her random and Bayesian numbers were in the low-to-mid-90s, I think. Then she (seemingly) took the rest of August off.
Anyway, I’m glad things are where they are, and I hope she has another winner in the Town Hall — were that to happen, I would expect it would queue up another Deadbeat Donnie meltdown.
germy
@SFAW: Do you know anything about the townhall audience? I’m curious if the so-called undecideds are the same folks who troll progressive blogs by saying “I’m not a republican!” and then repeat every stupid wingnut talking point known to man.
Will HRC be asked about Vince Foster, emails and whitewater?
Matt McIrvin
@SFAW:
Fundraising. We’re likely seeing the fruits of that now; it may have been unavoidable.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: there was one week where I told myself I’d start actually worrying if the PEC Bayesian got any lower, but it didn’t. She was just at the low end of a standard deviation at that point. It was after the Ipsos/Reuters super iffy batch of state polls got added in IIRC.
SFAW
@germy:
Don’t recall that (not disagreeing, just don’t recall).
Dean Chambers was the “Unskew the Polls” nutjob. He also, after Romney’s wipeout, started a website “Barack O’Fraudo” claiming quelle surprise) that Obama won due to voter fraud. He (thanks be to FSM!) seems to have disappeared from the public eye.
SFAW
@germy:
No idea how the audience is selected.
I don’t think she’ll be asked about Foster and Whitewater (I’m assuming you were joking), but I fully expect her to be asked about e-mails, servers, and Benghaziiiii!!! And, for bonus points, how she helped start up ISIS.
SFAW
@Matt McIrvin:
Yeah, I got it re: fundraising. And part of it was the MSM doing their “let’s see how long we can pretend Hillary doesn’t exist” combined with Gore-ing her. But her (apparent) absence was still disconcerting, and certainly contributed to her drop in the polls.
germy
@SFAW: I don’t remember where I read it (maybe on balloon-juice) but someone said the debate is being held in a “red” district and that many audience members and question askers lean republican.
I know HRC will do fine and I’m sure drumpf will do his usual performance. I noticed how Pence mocked Kaine during their debate for seeming too prepared: “Did you spend a long time practicing that one?” etc.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: I’ve learned that things go best if I just tune out most of August during presidential years TBH.
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
I think it was more than one batch of polls, and I think it was more than one SD, but I think you and I are (now) generally on the same page.
hovercraft
@germy: As I said yesterday, when you’ve lost Joe of the morning and his merry band of sycophants, you’ve reached rock bottom. They all lament that the once”great, America’s Mayor” has lost his mind, and is now just like a lunatic who you would find roaming the streets of Manhattan. Even Fat Boy has not descended to the depths that Rudy has, he’s pathetic.
eric
The problem with the “shy trump voter hypothesis” is that trump voters are not shy by disposition. the “shy hillary voting woman hypothesis” has more merit because there are readily apparent reasons not to admit that information,
Matt McIrvin
@germy:
They’re undecided voters in Missouri. Anyone who is undecided in Missouri has got to be whiter than white, and right-leaning.
Major Major Major Major
@SFAW: she had been flagging in the polls already when the Reuters/Ipsos batch came out and really smacked her down in his model. Her slump was starting to fade at that time but they had been in the field during her worst period even though they were released later so it made it look longer than it was. He had a podcast about it.
Could’ve been more than a SD though, thought it wasn’t, not going to look it up ?
Gelfling 545
@Matt McIrvin: Well, sad to say, if they’re that dumb they probably weren’t long for this world anyway.
SFAW
@germy:
“Not as much time as you spent trying to figure out different ways to pretend that Trump didn’t say what he actually said. And I guess I could have spent as much time on a ‘pretend I have a clue’ squint as you did — except I already know what I’m talking about. Unlike you.”
I think it would have been good humor if Kaine had gone all Dozens on Pence’s ass, but with Trump being the target.
sigaba
@RaflW: UKIP made its name by being a bunch of racists who kept telling everyone “We aren’t racist! We just want independence from the EU!”
Now that they have that, they have to decide on what they all agree on, and they can’t figure out how to be anti-immigrant without being racist. The EU issue gave them a lot of wiggle room and allowed them to defer a lot of conversations about ideology, it was a very simple platform. Now they have to be more generally anti-immigrant so they have to have all kinds of arguments about who’s a “real Briton” and who has more right to stay than who and UKIPpers have predictably disgusting beliefs about all these things– UKIP politicians have no compunction about telling you that people who have been in the U.K. for three generations have no right to be there, because they don’t “look” British.
Of course most of the people that might cast a vote for UKIP aren’t this reactionary, so that’s the problem.
Matt McIrvin
@eric: My bet is it’s a wash, and the vote will actually track the aggregated state polling pretty closely, just as in every other recent presidential election.
The Guardian went looking for shy Trumpsters a while back, and found them–but they were among Guardian readers, that is, Americans who would voluntarily read a left-wing British newspaper site. Probably not representative at all. They tended to be affluent Buster heighten-the-contradictions types who wanted to Trump to win to bring the revolution, or because it would be funny and Hillary was boring. I think they surveyed them again months later and found that some had changed their minds.
SFAW
@Major Major Major Major:
Yeah, it’s not worth it, since we’re here now. Thank FSM.
hovercraft
@germy:
Aha, you are referring to the “Shy Tory vote”, Hugh Hewitt has proclaimed that Trump has created a new class of voter with his unique brand of populism. These are the more than 5 million white voters wo stayed home and cost RMoney the 2012 election, well Trump has awakened this beast, and their numbers have swelled way beyond the 5 million. The media have forced them underground with their constant accusations of racism, sexism and xenophobia, but the are out there, and will rise up to shock us all November 8 th.
The only problem is that if they did exist, Trump made no effort to register them so they could vote for him, actual “data” shows no new hordes of white registrations, and where there have been upticks, they are more than countered by new voters of color.
There will indeed be a shock on election day, it will come when the RWNJ’s realize that they are well and truly outnumbered by the sane people in the country.
hovercraft
@germy:
The guy behind the “Unskew” the polls website back in 2012, who had the real numbers that consistently showed that RMoney was going to win.
Matt McIrvin
@sigaba: Over on what remains of Google+ I’m currently watching this British nationalist guy repeatedly slag off on Americans for being horrible, hate-filled racists for supporting Trump, while simultaneously extolling the virtues of Brexit, and announcing that Britain was now ready to become the world’s leading superpower when the United States disintegrates.
germy
@Matt McIrvin:
Exactly
Gelfling 545
@MomSense: Since direct deposit became a thing I’ve worked for a couple of places where your first (and the last, as well) check had to be a printed check for some reason. No one ever said just what that reason was.
germy
@SFAW: As much as I despise drumpf (my nephew was severely disabled and my WWII POW father suffered from undiagnosed PTSD), I really hate Mr. tobacco lobby Pence (“cigarettes don’t cause lung cancer!”) because I lost a favorite cousin to smoking-related lung disease.
I want them stomped to fucking death this November.
Major Major Major Major
@hovercraft: I also imagine the shy
toriesracists would have come out in, I don’t know, 2012?SFAW
@germy:
“Make it so, Number One.”
Larkspur
There are no undecided voters except for the ones who don’t know whether they’ll vote at all, and by now those folks pretty much know what they’re going to do. Undecided voters are actually “decline to answer the question” voters, maybe because they’re nervous about stepping out publicly, but mostly because they like to fuck with the media and the polity in general.
Mnemosyne
@workworkwork:
I am a woman myself, but I have 4 older brothers, and I’ve definitely seen the dynamic in play where they can’t admit to feeling anxious or upset about something, so they pick a fight instead so those emotions have somewhere to go. It was the right thing to do to stand up for yourself because you don’t need the extra stress, but I think his picking the fight came out of a place of him not knowing any other way to deal with his worry and anxiety about your health.
Larkspur
@Keith P.: I shouldn’t be surprised, but damn I hate to see a bank doing its very best to make money off of your situation – with the late fees and overdrafts and crap – all while they are using your money and making money off your money as well as the money you have to pay to get your money. If I could, I’d love to see you walk into the bank with Elizabeth Warren at your side. Banksters weeping and cowering and mewling, “Please, Keith, here is your money and here is the money we made off your money, and here is the refund of the stupid fees we charged you, please, Keith, just ask Senator Warren to leave…AIEEEEEE!” Then the surveillance video melts and you live happily ever after.
hovercraft
@Major Major Major Major:
Not overtly racist enough, they assumed that everyone was going to go out a get rid of the niclang, so they didn’t have to.
Mnemosyne
@SFAW:
I’ll bet she does a fabulous version of, “I Get A Kick Out Of You,” tho.
scuffletuffle
@Keith P.: Banks around here do not put holds on paychecks. Make sure they know its your wages.
Sir Nose D'voidofucks (fka nastybrutishntall)
Does anyone have any thoughts about this Obama Justice Department own-goal ? Deciding to send fewer election observers, this year in particular, without even being ordered to? What the everloving fuck is this shit. Lynch and Obama, deciding to let racists intimidate black voters just because it might be in violation of an SC decision? This is ridiculous caving-in.
workworkwork
@Keith P.: Do you have a PayPal or something so we can pass the hat around?
Would that be appropriate in this case?
workworkwork
@a thousand flouncing lurkers (formerly fidelioscabinet): Yeah, as the oldest sib, he’s always been kind of a jerk. This did throw me, though. I walked a bunch of laps around the ward just to calm down.
workworkwork
@Gin & Tonic:
Thanks for sharing that.
There may be a non-surgical option but I’m waiting to hear from a radiologist. (There was a bit of a bump in the count last night that suggested this as a possible outcome.)
Also, while I’m in here, my wife has to be in respite care in a local nursing facility (M.S., etc.). We don’t have family in the area so I’m her primary caregiver.
And, yeah, Rituxan is technically chemo. They won’t let any pregnant staff near me and for about 48-72 hours after the infusion I have to be careful about skin-to-skin contact. They even moved my next door roommate out so I have our shared bathroom to myself. (that part’s kind of nice, though.)
SFAW
@Mnemosyne:
If only she could do a duet with Cleavon Little. That would be awesome in so many ways. Oh well.
SFAW
@workworkwork:
Or GoFundMe, maybe?
Origuy
Someone on my Facebook feed posted:
JR in WV
@Chet:
I misplaced a registration card, and went online to see how much it costs. I was able to complete a form online and pay with my usual credit card, the registration card came in the mail the next mail delivery. In the meantime, I could print out my online receipt as proof of registration if needed.
So check it out, no waiting.