Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

People are weird.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Republicans cannot even be trusted with their own money.

President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

People are complicated. Love is not.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

We will not go back.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

“woke” is the new caravan.

You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

Dumb motherfuckers cannot understand a consequence that most 4 year olds have fully sorted out.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

They punch you in the face and then start crying because their fist hurts.

The current Supreme Court is a dangerous, rogue court.

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

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  2. 2.

    lamh36

    Damnit…this might just make me watch that damn debate tomorrow…gotta go out to by me some snacks for tomrorrow Debate/MMA takedown.

    @realDonaldTrump
    The media and establishment want me out of the race so badly – I WILL NEVER DROP OUT OF THE RACE, WILL NEVER LET MY SUPPORTERS DOWN! #MAGA

  5. 5.

    Corner Stone

    Well, fuck. Sarah Isgur Flores must have just received a deposit in her bank account because she is back to, “yeah, but Hillary” status again on MSNBC.

  6. 6.

    guachi

    Make America Grope Again

    GOP – Grabbers of Pu**y

    I thought I was witty when I thought those up yesterday but it’s clear others beat me to it.

    I just don’t get that NOW Republicans are upset by Trump’s misogyny. There have been news reports for months out about this kind of stuff.

  7. 7.

    TaMara (HFG)

    Ralph Reed was practically humping Trump’s leg this morning on NPR and offering his daughters as a sacrifice so the unborns could have a vote. Something about it being 10 years ago and the Trump of today is nothing like this.

    That next October surprise? It’s going to be from two weeks ago, so all those who wrapped themselves up in, “past Trump, not current Trump” will have nowhere to run, no where to hide.

  8. 8.

    lamh36

    ‏@Lydia_Tata 6m6 minutes ago
    New update : Melania Trump Was Pregnant With Barron When Donald Trump Made Lewd Comments OMG!

    Yep…creeper

  13. 13.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Corner Stone: I guess I’m not surprised that her listing of Benghazi as a “Clinton scandal got no pushback form the anchor, especially Lui, who often seems to be putting together an auction tape for Uncle Rupert. And with that, I’m gonna get back to my fall clean up. If Ryan is booed, there will be many amusing Gifs and Jifs and vines and the like.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    I know it’s not the case, but a large part of me really hopes that Trump’s nomination was due to Obama’s 11-dimensional chess, and that he has just destroyed his enemies for decades to come.

  20. 20.

    piratedan

    I guess the most telling piece about all of this is that we have Bill Clinton, noted horndog and skirt chaser, who most assuredly scored a few intimate sessions outside the bonds of marriage. Yet, also from the documentation, it appears that Bill’s advances were apparently made with women who had given him the inclination that they would be receptive to said advances.

    Not condoning what he did, but most of the evidence appears to point to consensual conjugation (so to speak)

    Whereas, we have a multi-thousandaire, who is confiding to a guy who peddles in gossip on a national stage that he has a penchant for going up and scoring with women because he finds them attractive and simply takes control and imposes himself on them.

    perhaps the nuance here is too great for these folks to see.. then again, it appears that a good many of these upright and moral christianists have never spent a lot of time over in that New Testament part of their favored tome, so perhaps nuance isn’t their forte.

    They same to have the same issues about support of a fetus versus the support of a child.

  21. 21.

    germy

    (((Chris Moon)))
    ‏@ImChrisMoon

    @realDonaldTrump You should use the mic from the Billy Bush interview for the next debate. It works really really well.

  23. 23.

    germy

    So Carly Fiorina and Sen. Kelly Ayotte withdrew their endorsements today. I wonder if the’ve switched to Johnson.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a POTUS candidate destroy his own campaign the way Donald Trump is doing. Can my American friends think of anyone remotely comparable?

  25. 25.

    dmsilev

    @lamh36: He’s never gonna give [it] up, never gonna let us down.

    This has certainly been the most …dramatic election season I can remember.

  27. 27.

    Eljai

    That graphic is awesome! “It’s just a flesh wound!” Yeah, Brody, just keep convincing yourself of that.

  28. 28.

    Shell

    if we all had a hot mic,,,

    I can’t remember the exact quote, but it states how you can see a persons real character; by how they act when they think noone’s looking.

  33. 33.

    hovercraft

    @Corner Stone:
    I wasn’t aware she ever abandoned that status. All the people who are standing by him are condemning the comments and then doing a hard pivot to the Clinton’s. There is a reason Flores was with Carly, she hates Hillary.

  36. 36.

    Humdog

    @Amir Khalid: It was not nearly as spectacular as this dumpster fire, but Gary Hart invited the press to investigate his private life all the while he was having an affair with a woman he wasn’t married to. They caught him and it finished him. How quaint it seems now.

  39. 39.

    hovercraft

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    And your point is? He is a born again Christian, so of course he is a husband and father. He may also occasionally have sex with men, but that doesn’t make him gay!

  41. 41.

    Corner Stone

    @hovercraft: For 24 hours she was remarkably lucid on the issues currently facing Trump and the GOP. She didn’t do a, “yeah, but Clinton” for almost 24 hours. Now she went loudly that way and so I can only assume she either got paid again, or got the phone call.

  43. 43.

    The Golux

    The past 24 hours have felt like the moment Warden Norton eats his gun in The Shawshank Redemption.

    For two months, the GOP has been happily rolling in shit like a dog, and are now suprised that the stink cannot be removed. Beautiful.

  46. 46.

    Amir Khalid

    @Corner Stone:
    You mean the Snoopy photo? I thought he looked rather endearing in that one. I always thought it was his cousin Olympia’s fault for hogging all the luck in the family that year by winning an Oscar.

  47. 47.

    Corner Stone

    @Feudalism Now!:

    Ayotte is supporting Gov. Pence as a write-in candidate. So yeah.

    I still can’t believe she said that. Does she know she is running in NH? Not KS or MI?

  48. 48.

    hovercraft

    Tic Tac USA ✔@TicTacUSA
    Tic Tac respects all women. We find the recent statements and behavior completely inappropriate and unacceptable.
    3:03 PM – 8 Oct 2016

  51. 51.

    Corner Stone

    @MattF: A handful of people keep yelling, “DONALD TRUMP!” and a couple dozen keep trying to clap over them.

  52. 52.

    msdc

    @Major Major Major Major: You have to admit, that tweet of Nate’s was… not a good look.

    The 538 models for this campaign are the bloated concept album of election projections… too much time noodling around in the studio and not one decent single.

  54. 54.

    Tokyokie

    @Amir Khalid:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a POTUS candidate destroy his own campaign the way Donald Trump is doing. Can my American friends think of anyone remotely comparable?

    I can think of a few who did so during the nomination process, such as Edmund Muskie in 1972 or Gary Hart in 1988 or John Edwards in 2008 (and of those, Hart was the one in the best position electorally), but the closest I can think of was McGovern in 1972 with his handling of selecting, then removing, his initial running mate, Thomas Eagleton. And McGovern wouldn’t have won the general had he run a perfect campaign.

  55. 55.

    Shell

    about it being 10 years ago and the Trump of today is nothing like this.

    That spin aint gonna fly. 10 years ago he wasn’t some callow teenager. He was 60. By age 60 our characters are pretty much set in stone.

  56. 56.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Corner Stone: The idea that Pence is a good candidate shows you the value of our long campaigns. Maddening as they are, they let the candidates show who they are. Pence is just a quiet spoken figure onto whom a lot of voters project their hopes. He’s unvetted.

  57. 57.

    lamh36

    @costareports
    Paul Ryan speaking now in Wisconsin. People shouting, “What about Trump?” and “You turned your back on him!”

  58. 58.

    GregB

    As a faith based conservative, I have had enough of Hillary’s insult based campaign.

    -A Stern But Sad Faced Mike Pence

  60. 60.

    hovercraft

    @dmsilev:
    The Trump family must be stopped, they are trying to systematically destroy the American candy industry. First Skittles now Tic Tac’s.

  61. 61.

    scav

    @dmsilev: well, clearly they’re going to need a few more programs on growing the marital infidelity and abusive male demographics of the nation. Those will be an easier sell than figuring out how to punch up the enablers cohort.

  62. 62.

    Mart

    @Shell: Hillary already had her hot mic moment, the media and oppo have poured through tens of thousands of emails and got nuttin. On the other hand, believe it is just starting for Tic Tac Don.

  64. 64.

    PST

    A couple of months ago I read a disturbing, beautifully written account in the New Yorker called The Crotchgrabber.The author, Mary Karr, describes being suddenly assaulted in the Trump manner by a passerby.

    Shame hit, a cold backwash of elemental shame: something bad had been done to me; therefore I was bad. Even though I knew better, I started scanning for how I’d incited this. Pedestrians glided past. A sandwich was being made. I took stock of what I had on: in some ways, I wish I had been wearing booty shorts and Lucite heels and prissing past the Port Authority Bus Terminal holding my décolletage in my hands and saying “hubba hubba.” I should be able to dress that way if the urge possesses me.

    Instead, I was wearing a modest dress and platform slides with big cork soles to save the feet from pounding concrete. For an instant, the shoes looked radiantly slutty, the old-maid equivalent of dominatrix spikes. I was drenched in sweat, and part of me wanted to bolt the two blocks to my apartment, scramble up the stairs, double-latch the door, and crawl behind some heavy furniture. But inside all that noise in my head, some space bar got hit, and a moment of quiet opened up.

    Encouraged by a homeless man sitting on a cardboard square, she yelled, gave chase, and found a cop. The grabber was cuffed and taken to jail, although ultimately charges were dropped. Sometimes I think it is easier for a man to imagine the harm done by devastating violent rapes like the one perpetrated against the Central Park Jogger (but not by the young men Trump was so quick to condemn) than the more common sexual assaults like that Kerr describes. Her story leaped to mind when I saw the Trump tape yesterday. One point that struck me on rereading is that the author is white, middle class, and well educated. Her only vulnerability was being female, and that was enough to draw the most personal and contemptuous attack casually from a large stranger. Reading her account puts more meat on the bare bones of the Trump account.

  65. 65.

    Teddy' Person

    Seems to me the evangelicals have an easy rational for voting Trump. Before settling on Pence, one of the Trump spawn told Kasich that if he agreed to be Trump’s VP he’d be doing all the Presidenting. It’s not a bigly leap to think that Pence got the same sales pitch. So, a vote for Trump is really a vote for the right-wing, evangelical wet-dream, Pence. Although, I may be giving anyone even considering voting for Trump too much credit for logical thought.

  67. 67.

    piratedan

    @The Golux: have to say, Hillary Clinton as Andy Dufresne works for me… I can imagine she wanted to shoot Bill post Lewinski and she’s still doing time thanks to the GOP and the NYT.

  68. 68.

    Gravenstone

    @Feudalism Now!: Most likely the newly updated official RNC stance, elevate Pence. Last night it was simply that down ticket candidates could disavow Trump without repercussions.

  69. 69.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    I still can’t believe she said that. Does she know she is running in NH? Not KS or MI?

    You’re kidding, right? She’s the one who said she would “Absolutely” hold up Trump as a role model for children in the Ayotte-Hassan debate. Apparently she’s not a complete fucking moron, because she tried to walk it back an hour or two later, via Twitter (or Facebook? Don’t recall exactly). But to say “Absolutely!” as she did showed (to me, at least) that she was more concerned with losing Trump votes than with saying the rational thing.

  70. 70.

    Corner Stone

    @hovercraft:

    First Skittles now Tic Tac’s.

    What you have to realize is that those candies are the only style small enough for Trump to shake out more than one at a time into his hands.

  71. 71.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @guachi:

    I just don’t get that NOW Republicans are upset by Trump’s misogyny. There have been news reports for months out about this kind of stuff.

    Trump is groping their REAL American (as in white, Republican) wives and daughters – not the hippies, feminists,black, browns and other slutty slut sluts who deserve it.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW: I’m not kidding at all. I think she’s in a really confusing space and that she is not very bright. She’s running scared because she can’t afford to lose even one Trumper and also can’t give up one “moderate” voter at the same time.
    Anyone who responded, “Absolutely” has no business being an elected official. There are about 4000 other ways to answer that question. Let the moderator keep asking, she has a different version to speechify.

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    @shomi:

    Are you fluent in English? Do you ever fucking read what people actually write, before responding with your usual “You all fucking SUCK! And I iz smart-like!” bullshit.

    If you’re not a fucking bot, then you really need to have your Mommy explain the comments to you. Or, alternatively, start your own fucking blog, and demonstrate your immense double-digit IQ over there.

  78. 78.

    SFAW

    @Corner Stone:

    I interpreted your original comment to mean that you were surprised by her Trumpian kiss-up. It looks like you were actually making a “more of the same from that moron” comment (approximately, I realize that’s probably not your exact intent). Yes?

  81. 81.

    Corner Stone

    @SFAW: More of a “stunningly bad politicking by that elected person who is in a very tough spot right now”.

  82. 82.

    SoupCatcher

    @Amir Khalid:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a POTUS candidate destroy his own campaign the way Donald Trump is doing. Can my American friends think of anyone remotely comparable?

    It’s not even remotely comparable, but I remember when Perot withdrew from the 1992 race and then came back again. My boss at the time, a general contractor who had been a die-hard supporter, was devastated by the quitting and never got back on the bandwagon.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    @Shell:

    I can’t remember the exact quote, but it states how you can see a persons real character; by how they act when they think noone’s looking.

    I’ve also heard it said that you should judge people by how they treat people lower on the social ladder than themselves. Trump does especially badly by that standard.

  84. 84.

    Feebog

    @Corner Stone:

    What you have to realize is that those candies are the only style small enough for Trump to shake out more than one at a time into his hands.

    The M&M’s people must be terrified at this point.

  85. 85.

    Elizabelle

    @Amir Khalid: Pence is an avalanche of stupid. Was not going to get re-elected in his own red state.

    But he looks presidential enuff for some folks. And got the right genitalia and everything (or so we assume) …

  86. 86.

    Elizabelle

    @Feebog: The Milk Duds and Whopper PR folks are pre-emptively strategizing, as we type. And Jujubes? What did you ever do to Trump to deserve this?

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    @Amir Khalid:
    Kasich is not ignorant. A horrible person, but not ignorant. Pence on the other hand, is horribly ignorant and just horrible by itself. So a sales pitch that set him up to be the fall guy? Yeah he’d fall for that.
    What gets me is the same that others (and I several times) have pointed out, Trump has been like this for decades. He isn’t changing, ever. It’s baked into his old tiresome ass. That’s what made Kasich marginally better than all the rest of them is that he saw what we saw and bailed early. It may kill his political life but that’s all the better for the rest of us. Pence can’t even get reelected for dog catcher it a remote rural town and it’s because he’s a proven idiot. A smooth idiot but an idiot none the less.

  88. 88.

    Corner Stone

    @Elizabelle:

    The Milk Duds and Whopper PR folks are pre-emptively strategizing, as we type.

    They have nothing to worry about. Nothing but brown candies in there, no appeal to Trump.

  89. 89.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Teddy’ Person: There was that tweet the other day that mentioned that a lot of evangelicals regard Trump as a disposable vehicle for delivering Mike Pence to the White House, and believe that God will eliminate Trump somehow. They probably regard this as the hand of God doing the work.

  90. 90.

    Feathers

    @SFAW: Nuevo Hamster looooves to vote for the cray-zees! I recall a co-worker with a client in NH saying, they seem so normal, but there must be something about elections…”

  91. 91.

    Roger Moore

    @shomi:
    Nate has also said that a good predictor should take into account important events in the campaign, so that the wild swings he showed from the conventions, emailghazi, the debate, etc. are a sign that his system is working well.

    I think that’s nonsense. Those are mostly temporary disruptions, and the polls have bounced back to the status quo after them. Reacting to them is a sign that his “predictor” is just following the current state of the campaign, not really predicting the final outcome. A really good predictor should be able to tell the difference between a temporary blip and a real shift.

  92. 92.

    germy

    Hugh Hewitt ✔@hughhewitt

    For the benefit of the country, the party and his family, and for his own good, @realDonaldTrump should withdraw. More and worse oppo coming

  96. 96.

    SFAW

    @Ruckus:

    A smooth idiot but an idiot none the less.

    So you’re saying that his vacant-but-steely-eyed squintstare does not look Presidential to you? Kind of judgmental, aren’t you? And, you never know, his IQ might be in the high double-digits, and then wouldn’t you be ashamed of yourself?

  100. 100.

    Roger Moore

    @Major Major Major Major:

    the sad thing is, his model (allegedly) already has correction for things like convention bounces and still does that.

    Only one of his three models does that, and it has shown somewhat smaller swings than the others. The problem is that model also includes economic factors that are supposed to be predictive but are probably useless because the stuff they’re supposed to be modeling should already be baked into the polls.

  101. 101.

    Ruckus

    @SFAW:
    He talks OK as long as you don’t actually listen to the words or think in any way about the content. So perfect for the “religious” morons that make up his support. No, I’m not going to apologize for his huge, mid 2 figures IQ, or anything else about him. And yes I’m being judgemental, that’s what he’s asking me to do in ink on Nov 8. I’ve done my homework and I find him completely lacking in any and every meaningful (and many not so meaningful) way.
    @Regnad Kcin:
    Is the above enough of a reply for you?

  102. 102.

    JR in WV

    @Amir Khalid:

    Not for many years… Mondale, Dukakis… Bob Dole didn’t do himself any favors.

    LBJ in 1968… he couldn’t get out from under that damn war!! Every day on the news, more guys killed for LBJ’s ego, or something, I never did figure out the real reasons behind that fiasco.

    But lately, nope. Nothing like Trump. And my remembered examples pale when compared to Trump, who is genuinely psychotic in some way. Aside from his narcissism, which is pretty bad by itself.

  104. 104.

    Ruckus

    @JR in WV:

    I never did figure out the real reasons behind that fiasco.

    Of course you’ve heard the given reason, that’s how he got support for the big legislation he got passed. As I look back that seems less and less the likely answer. I’ve adopted raven’s position, Fuck LBJ.

  106. 106.

    SFAW

    @Ruckus:

    He talks OK as long as you don’t actually listen to the words or think in any way about the content.

    Kind of like Prof. Irwin Corey, were Professor Corey a RWNJ

  108. 108.

    SFAW

    @Ruckus:

    I’ve adopted raven’s position, Fuck LBJ.

    I have a serious question for you and raven re: “fuck LBJ.”

    I don’t blame you for feeling that way, but is there any reason I never see a “Fuck McNamara”? As far as I’m concerned, he was just as, or perhaps more evil than LBJ regarding Vietnam. But, I think I’m a little younger than you guys (no snark intended), and so I wasn’t paying quite as much attention to the Cabinet, etc., in those days.

    Is it a case of you feeling McNamara was not even close to as bad as LBJ? Or is it more a matter of trying to keep the “list” to a manageable size?

    OK, so it was more than one question.

  110. 110.

    SFAW

    @Ruckus:

    fuck us over for god.

    Or maybe “fuck us over for a version of ‘god’ that bears no resemblance to the actual teachings of Jesus.”

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    @sukabi:

    they should skip that and go straight to mass seppuku.

    I like the way you think. Only problem will be cutting off (snicker) the number of people who volunteer to be kaishakunin.

  115. 115.

    WaterGirl

    @Major Major Major Major: Well deserved, I think. Nate should have stayed at 538, he lost all credibility once he got to the times. The reason he was so successful before was that he just crunched the numbers and didn’t get caught up in the spin. Now he’s out there opining just like rest of them. Sad day for all of us when Nate went to the Times.

  116. 116.

    Ruckus

    @SFAW:
    Well, McNamara may have been the architect of Vietnam and the mess it was, but LBJ is the one who said yes. It couldn’t have happened without him, it happened because of him. And yes a reasonably sized list is easier, but actually the buck really does stop at the top of the food chain. And that’s LBJ.
    Hey, don’t apologize for your age, we didn’t ask to be born when we did, we all just popped out on some random day. Besides we all probably have some real shit that we do/did control to apologize for, at least to someone. People like GWB, McNamara, Nixon and yes LBJ have more than enough shit for millions of regular people to apologize for.

  118. 118.

    Ruckus

    @SFAW:

    …that bears no resemblance to the actual teachings of Jesus.”

    I don’t think most of the god botherers have much if any knowledge of the teachings of Jesus. And even if they do, they ignore it completely. Fuck them.

  120. 120.

    JR in WV

    @Shell:

    “He was 60. By age 60 our characters are pretty much set in stone. ”

    Not me. While I was pretty good at 60, now, 5 years later I’m nearly perfect. I work hard for Hillary’s election, harder than I did in 2012 for Obama. I contribute more to more candidates, and volunteer as well.

    I may have a small problem with my self-regard, but I’m working on that too. Then I’ll be really perfect!!

    ;-)

  121. 121.

    JR in WV

    @Ruckus:

    I understand Raven’s opinion of LBJ, who drafted him and sent him to bad places to kill or be killed.

    I, on the other hand, got drafted by Nixon’s administration. Not that I loved LBJ, but to me, Nixon was more dangerous to the nation. LBJ did things other than kill people in Asia.

    Nixon was pure evil… pure.

  122. 122.

    Ruckus

    @JR in WV:
    Nixon sure was evil. That’s why I mentioned him in my answer to @SFAW: at #118. And LBJ wasn’t all bad. Does the good stuff outweigh the bad? I used to think so. But I’ve asked myself this before, would Nixon have gotten us into Vietnam (or where ever) if LBJ hadn’t? Or would Nixon had ever even been elected if it hadn’t been for Vietnam? Of course we will never know as that’s not how it worked out. LBJ did deeply involve us in Vietnam, Nixon did fuck over at least 2 nations and untold humans by his willingness to exploit the Vietnam disaster for his personal gain.
    I look at LBJ this way, if in fact he got his legislation past because of Vietnam, he didn’t seem to try other options first. That’s my defining moment in Fuck LBJ. And for your sake I’ll add Fuck Nixon.
    You, raven, myself and millions of others paid a price, some of us a quite high price for both of these presidents.
    Right now I spend every day at the VA hospital and I see and talk to Vietnam era vets who have been broken for a long time. It’s not a pretty picture. I have also talked to some who are broken from our latest war adventures. So yes this is personal to me. Fuck LBJ. Fuck Nixon. And Fuck those republicans (and democrats) who want to cut the VA, SS, and all the other programs that at least attempt to make up for the horrible things many politicians do in our names but really with their own power and gain in mind.
    ETA I think I’m older than raven if I recall correctly, just a year so LBJ was my problem as well.

  127. 127.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @sukabi:

    well pregnant women are disgusting you know…

    You think pregnant women are disgusting? Wait til they start breast-feeding! Disgusting? You don’t even know from disgusting!

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