.
Remember, there’s a theory that Mike Pence accepted Trump’s undercard offer because it seemed like a shortcut to the Oval Office. Even if Trump didn’t suffer some kind of medical incident within six months of taking office, he’d surely be bored enough to let Pence act as a godbothering version of Dick Cheney, right? Some evangelicals even professed to believe that God, or someone in a long relationship with Him, planned to call Donald home once the White House was in the bag. (And it’s not as though Indiana voters wanted to keep Pence in the governor’s seat.) Now we all can hope that Mike Pence will be as thoroughly destroyed by the Trump Reverse-Midas Touch as, say, Billy Bush…
My friend Emily: Make no mistake, ladies: Trump may be the face of your rapist, but Pence is every judge who made sure he got away with it.
— Lisa (@HollettLA) October 8, 2016
This morning, Pence called Trump and told him he had to handle the next 48 hours alone. He didn't think he'd be an effective surrogate.
— Ashley Parker (@AshleyRParker) October 8, 2016
A source close to Trump camp told me Pence and his team are “absolutely apoplectic,” "melting down” and "inconsolable.”
— Philip Rucker (@PhilipRucker) October 8, 2016
If Mike Pence is surprised, then he really is as stupid as I, @mattyglesias, and everybody else said he was. https://t.co/PmXdoHiqoi
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 8, 2016
I am very sorry to inform the GOP that despite their protests, they must carry this candidate to term
— Emma Roller (@emmaroller) October 8, 2016
AP source: Pence, campaigning with his daughter, is beside himself. https://t.co/9mjcrEAnJQ pic.twitter.com/fICLlu7VTm
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 8, 2016
Would be really awkward if there was recent video of him defending Trump and saying his gaffes taken out of context https://t.co/wxesIqdWju
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) October 8, 2016
“How can you ignore this question?” an ABC reporter asked repeatedly, as Pence simply smiled and shook hands. https://t.co/AZnLPMeDhk
— Hadas Gold (@Hadas_Gold) October 7, 2016
Either Pence knew about Trump before this, and he's slime, or he didn't know, which makes him an idiot.
Or, after today, he can be both.
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 8, 2016
nodakfarmboy
As far as I can tell, Trump Supporters have gone through three of Kübler-Ross model stages of grief in the past 24 hours:
Denial- “This is no big deal. Guys talk like that all the time. Besides, it was 11 years ago!”
Anger: “But Hillary and Bill did (insert long list of conspiracies and wildly unsupported accusations)! Why isn’t the lie-beral, lamestream media paying attention to that?! It’s all fixed!”
Bargaining: “He apologized, and is a reformed man. Tomorrow at the debate he’ll be super prepared, and kick Killary’s ass! This is all going to blow over.”
I await depression and acceptance.
Maybe by Monday?
Who am I fooling. Acceptance will never happen.
Elizabelle
Mike Pence.
The great white (haired) hope.
Impending electoral roadkill in his own state of Indiana, this Hoosier attached himself to the Trump Crazy Train with all his might, rather than face Hoosiers again. He made Trump announce him as VP selection within hours of the deadline for having to file for the governor’s race.
And now, savior of the Republican Party. White (haired) knight, riding to the rescue.
For real?
pattonbt
The debate is going to be epic. And the best part is, Trump may actually spend more ammunition and idiocy on the republicans then Hillary. With the likes of Ryan and others getting booed by the deplorables for dumping Trump (which of course if they really meant they were dumping Trump they’d have to dump themselves because they’re just as deplorable with a more polished finish). Trump isn’t going to take kindly to the Rs going after him. He’s going to go full lunatic rant on everyone.
Barbara
I do not see how anyone can be surprised that stuff like this is out there. It’s totally predictable. Of course it’s uglier than anyone thought it would be but that too is predictable because most of us not only don’t talk this way we don’t imagine this way either.
Roger Moore
@nodakfarmboy:
By then they’ll be going through the stages of grief for the second debate.
Corner Stone
Isn’t Pence the VP pick only because some kind of flat tire or mechanical issue with the plane or something?
raven
@nodakfarmboy: She revised all that shit when SHE was dying.
Mnemosyne
Apparently, Pence has canceled his schedule for the foreseeable future.
Oh, and the asshole cousin-in-law Trump fan on my Facebook feed is getting called out by his own dudebro friends for defending Trump. He claimed that what Trump said was no different than what you’d hear in the military or a firehouse, and a guy replied, Uh, when exactly did you work as a firefighter or enlist in the military? I did both.
It’s pretty sweet.
raven
Navy beats Huston!
dmsilev
@pattonbt: According to the Post, Clinton is planning on bringing up Trump’s remarks near the beginning of the debate (link). And there’s this:
Note to Madame Secretary: rabid animals can be dangerous.
Corner Stone
I keep thinking back to that Omarosa quote where she is referencing Obama making fun of Trump at WHCD and saying something like, “Ooo, I think he started something he is unable to finish.”
Consider this one finished.
Elizabelle
After this election, there has to be some way to talk some of the rabid rightwing back to sanity.
I really hope we look anew at media consolidation, and allowing the Murdochs and Limbaughs of the world such a huge microphone. This is a structural problem, it’s not just First Amendment absolutism. These people are poisoning us, for money for themselves, and to stave off taxes for the already insanely wealthy.
We could change this. This is not “entertainment.” It’s dangerously destabilizing.
Not allowing a hearing for a well-qualified Supreme Court justice. Denying climate change, when it just gets more expensive and hopeless to ameliorate its effects. This is madness.
We could change this.
Corner Stone
When was this Citizen Trump BS on MSNBC created? I can’t believe it was in the can and they chose to run it anyway?
Mnemosyne
Also, too, if you haven’t set your DVR for tonight’s “Saturday Night Live” yet, better get on that. You just know that Alec Baldwin has watched that “apology” video 100 times to polish his impression for tonight’s sketch.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m sure part of her prep is people hitting her with the crudest things they can come up with
encephalopath
All this talk from the GOP about Trump dropping out of the race is just ass covering distancing from their candidate. It’s too late for that. The ballots are printed, sent to absentee voters, and in the case of 400K of them, used and early voted on.
Dropping out doesn’t remove his name from the ballot. It doesn’t automatically elevate Pence to the top of the ticket. Pence isn’t running for president.
The only thing Trump could do to throw a bone out to disaffected Republican voters is to promise to resign immediately after being inaugurated.
But that’s not exactly an incentive for his own mouth breathing base to show up to vote, is it?
Hal
Huh. So Tim Kaine did do better in the debate, retroactively.
jk
List of rats who are jumping ship
Republicans revoking endorsements (8)
Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.): “I will not be voting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton and instead will be writing in Governor Pence on Election Day.” Ayotte had said earlier that she was supporting Trump but not endorsing him for president.
Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley: “I certainly won’t vote for Hillary Clinton, but I cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump.”
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), House Oversight Committee chairman: “I’m out. I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine.”
Utah Gov. Gary Herbert: “While I cannot vote for Hillary Clinton, I will not vote for Trump.”
Rep. Frank Lo Biondo (R-N.J.): “I will write in Governor Mike Pence for President.”
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.): “Donald Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy.”
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Ak.): I cannot and will not support Donald Trump for president. He has forfeited the right to be our party’s nominee.
Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.): “If I support him for President, I will be telling my boys that I think it’s okay to treat women like objects — and I’ll have failed as a dad. Therefore, I can no longer support Donald Trump for President and will not be voting for him or Hillary Clinton.”
Republicans calling on Trump to drop out (20)
Rep. Bradley Byrne (R-Ala.): “It is now clear Donald Trump is not fit to be President of the United States and cannot defeat Hillary Clinton. I believe he should step aside and allow Governor Pence to lead the Republican ticket.”
Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.): “For the good of the country, and to give the Republicans a chance of defeating Hillary Clinton, Mr. Trump should step aside…put the country first and do the right thing.”
Rep. Barbara Comstock (R-Va.): “This is disgusting, vile, and disqualifying. No woman should ever be subjected to this type of obscene behavior and it is unbecoming of anybody seeking high office. In light of these comments, Donald Trump should step aside and allow our party to replace him with Mike Pence or another appropriate nominee from the Republican Party.”
Sen. Mike Crapo (R-Idaho): “I urge Donald Trump to step aside and allow the Republican party to put forward a conservative candidate like Mike Pence who can defeat Hillary Clinton.”
Rep. Rodney Davis (R-Mo.): “The abhorrent comments made by Donald Trump are inexcusable and go directly against what I’ve been doing in Washington to combat assaults on college campuses. Because of this, I am rescinding my support for Donald Trump and asking to have my name removed from his agriculture advisory committee. With the terrible options America has right now, I cannot cast my vote for any of the candidates, so I hope Donald Trump withdraws from the race so the American people can elect Mike Pence as our next president.”
South Dakota Gov. Dennis Daugaard: “Enough is enough. Donald Trump should withdraw in favor of Governor Mike Pence. This election is too important.”
Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Az.): “Donald Trump is wrong about his level of support. He needs to withdraw from the race.”
Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.): Will reportedly back Pence.
Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.): “I will not vote for Donald Trump. If Donald Trump wishes to defeat Hillary Clinton, he should do the only thing that will allow us to do so — set aside, and allow Mike Pence to be the Republican party’s nominee.”
Colo. Senate nominee Darryl Glenn (R): “I am therefore calling on Donald Trump to do the honorable, selfless thing — voluntarily step aside and let Mike Pence be our party’s nominee so that we can defeat Hillary Clinton, keep control of the Senate, and put our nation back on a path of safety and security.”
Rep. Joe Heck (R-Nev.), candidate for U.S. Senate: “I can no longer look past this pattern of behavior and inappropriate comments from Donald Trump. Therefore, I cannot, in good conscience, continue to support him nor can I vote for Hillary Clinton…my wife, my daughters, my mother, my sister and all women deserve better. The American people deserve better… I believe our only option is to formally ask Mr. Trump to step down and allow Republicans the opportunity to elect someone who will provide us with the strong leadership so desperately needed and one that Americans deserve.”
Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.): @realDonaldTrump should drop out. @GOP should engage rules for emergency replacement.
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah): “I respectfully ask you, with all due respect, to step aside. Step down, allow someone else to carry the banner of these principles… rather than weighing down the American people.”
Rep. Martha Roby (R-Ala.): “As disappointed as I’ve been with his antics throughout this campaign, I thought supporting the nominee was the best thing for our country and our party. Now, it is abundantly clear that the best thing for our country and our party is for Trump to step aside and allow a responsible, respectable Republican to lead the ticket.”
Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.): Character [email protected] is obviously not going to win.
But he can still make an honorable move: Step aside & let Mike Pence try.
Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah): “I’m incredibly disappointed in our party’s candidate. And unlike the Democrats who have proven completely unwilling to hold secretary Clinton accountable for her illegal activities that endangered our national security, I am willing to hold Mr. Trump accountable. I am therefore calling for him to step aside and to allow Mike Pence to lead our party.”
Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Ak.): “I will continue to campaign for Republican candidates across Alaska and the country. Keeping Republicans in the Senate majority is critical to the economic and national security of Alaska and America. As for the White House, Donald Trump should step aside. I will support Gov. Mike Pence for president.”
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), third ranking Republican in the Senate: Donald Trump should withdraw and Mike Pence should be our nominee effective immediately.
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.): “I urge him to think about our country over his own candidacy and carefully consider stepping aside from the ticket.”
Rep. Ann Wagner (R-Mo.): “I have committed my short time in Congress to fighting for the most vulnerable in our society. As a strong and vocal advocate for victims of sex trafficking and assault, I must be true to those survivors and myself and condemn the predatory and reprehensible comments of Donald Trump. I withdraw my endorsement and call for Governor Pence to take the lead so we can defeat Hillary Clinton.”
h/t The Hill
patrick II
That “or” could be an “and” and I think people agree Pence is both.
Michael Bersin
Rep. Vicky Hartzler (r – the Chinese are spying on us through our toasters) is all in with the Donald.
Corner Stone
OMG, I just saw something on twitter about how Trump’s Deportation Force would consist of grabbing Mexicans by their p_ussy and throwing them over the border.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: I think that’s a few weeks old– is it Tweety narrating?
chris
Some of you may not know that it’s Thanksgiving weekend here in Canada. In the spirit of free trade I wish you all a happy and relaxed turkey day.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@jk: so as of this moment, Burr, Toomey, Rubio and Blunt are still all in?
Hal
@patrick II: I’m thinking of that little girl in the taco commercial saying “Why not both?”
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah. I missed intro so wasn’t sure when it was set to air or if it was something older.
Looks like all older pieces sewn together. The people on here talking about Trump’s genius have to feel a little chagrined about now. Don’t they?
Mike R
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Given Rubio’s work ethic he probably hasn’t heard the news.
hovercraft
Unfortunately for the GOP, even if they got their dearest wish, for Trump to drop out, which they wont, Pence would then be inundated with Ads about his Laws criminalizing miscarriages, requiring funerals for aborted fetuses and miscarriages, jailing women for infanticide. Creating and exacerbating an HIV outbreak. The RFA law that caused a huge backlash. His record has been largely ignored so far.
dmsilev
@encephalopath: Trump’s name is on the ballot; that’s fixed. Every state in the country has mailed out ballots to troops overseas (Federal law requires that that happens 45 days prior to the election), and absentee/early ballots are going out to the general population already. There have been some …imaginative proposals from desperate GOP types to try and set up an organized campaign to tell people “a vote for Trump is a vote for Pence” and then rely on faithless electors to throw the election to the House, which is one of those things that sounds clever and all but (a) probably isn’t legal and (b) definitely isn’t even remotely practical.
danielx
Donald Trump could be be caught on tape (so to speak) confirming that he is Satan’s offspring and for Trump’s base it wouldn’t change a thing.
piratedan
@Elizabelle: I agree but my question is, just how forgiving should the Democrats be?
1) The GOP painted themselves into this position
2) The butthurt apparently goes all the way back to Nixon
3) Apparently, these guys do not take instruction well
4) how do you control a right-wing media that refuses to even recognize your humanity, much less recognize that you’re an American.
5) How do you stop the messages emanating from the pulpits across America that being a liberal is akin to trafficking with Satan?
6) not only do they not take instruction well, they don’t appear to learn too well either
I would welcome allowing or having the opportunity to walk some of these folks back from the abyss, but I’m tired of erecting barriers and putting up warning signs and having these people flip me off as they hurdle over or drive their wheelarounds off the cliff.
Nelle
I encourage all of you to email or call your senators and representatives and ask them to respond to this – Are you still supporting Donald Trump. If not, will you publicly repudiate him as a candidate (no middle ground anymore)? Or some such version. Their offices need to be flooded.
gene108
Anybody watch the Norte Dame vs. NCSU game?
Weather was terrible and made the game ugly, yet fascinating in how it changed the way the game was played. Passing was a bad idea*. Punting and kicking were adventures.
Plus, my Wolfpack won, so I can laugh at all the funny GIF’s people are posting about the game.
* Super Genious Brian Kelly did not understand that and kept running his normal pass heavy offense, until the 4th quarter.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Jeep has an ad out about how we’re all Americans, split screen with a woman going to a BBQ place and a guy going to a vegan cafe (get it? cause you’d think it would be the other way!), one woman going to a spa and another one going hiking, etc. They end with a guy with an elephant and a woman with a donkey. I wonder if that ad will last
dmsilev
So, has RNC PR BS commented at all today, or did he get blind stinking drunk at breakfast and hasn’t been seen since?
dmsilev
I laughed: https://twitter.com/tystiklorius/status/784891254379122688
debbie
@Mnemosyne:
On my FB page, the pigs are saying it was horrible when Bill did it, but now, when Trump does it, it’s okay because Bill did it. They’re making me dizzy.
WereBear
Except they want to live in this bizarre alternate reality, and there is plenty of bucks to be made by people who will help them stay there.
aimai
Jesus christ how can we have reached this stage where these assholes, like Ayotte, can think it is acceptable to “write in” Pence after supporting and campaigning for Trump, and ask other people to vote for them when they are essentially abstaining w/r/t their civic duty? I’m just astonished that “I can’t figure out who should run this country” is supposed to be some kind of respectable position to take. Fuck these fucking fuckers.
debbie
@dmsilev:
This is like poking a caged tiger with a stick.
Mnemosyne
@debbie:
My response to that is, “Bill was smart enough not to say that shit on an open mike.”
gene108
@Elizabelle:
Murdoch has been destroying the public discourse, in the English speaking world, for decades. He started with his native Australia, moved to the U.K., and came to the U.S. in the late 1980’s.
I am not sure how to curtail Murdoch. He’s an international force for evil.
dmsilev
@debbie: I can only assume that the Clinton strategy includes trying to provoke Trump into a raging spittle-flying profanity-spewing fit during the debate.
muddy
@Mnemosyne: And not like he’d do like that anyway. Clearly Bill is someone who desperately wants to be liked (by women, by Republicans in the 90s, whoever). Just grabbing someone does not scratch that itch. Trump has a different itch, the urge to subjugate others, that’s his kink.
Totally different head.
Lizzy L
@dmsilev: This, exactly. It’s too late. Vote-by-mail ballots are going out to the voters in California on Monday October 10th. Trump is on the ballot to stay.
@hovercraft: And THIS. Because Mike Pence is a horrible, horrible man. So if there were a way to quickly put him on the ballot, which there is not, and the Rs tried to do it, our media would very shortly be flooded with ads making it very very clear what a POS Pence is.
I think Trump stays on the ballot, and loses, and then the Republican party gets to spend a lot of time, money, and energy re-making itself. If God really loves us, the Dems will get the Senate and maybe even the House. (I don’t think we’ll get the House, but it’s good to have dreams.) What could be bad about any of that?
lamh36
sukabi
@Elizabelle: I’d suggest lacing the water supply with lithium, but thorazine might be better for the first couple of weeks.
Bill_D
People assume that they can just write in somebody for president. Well, it’s not so simple:
“Currently, 43 States allow Write In Ballots for President of the United States.
States not allowing write in ballots include; Arkansas, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Dakota
Most States require a candidate to register, however; Vermont, Wyoming, Oregon, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Iowa, Delaware, and Alabama do not require registration.
Thirty-five states require that a write-in candidate must submit some form of affidavit and, sometimes, a filing fee at least one month before the election. In North Carolina, these candidates must circulate a petition. Then their names are posted on a list at the polling place, though not on the official ballot. All other write-in votes are tossed.”
So in theory a write-in candidate could get elected, but most states require advance registration by the candidate. So ad hoc write-ins by frustrated voters are not going to be counted. A write-in candidate really needs to start a campaign well in advance and do all required filings to have any chance at all.
hovercraft
@Corner Stone:
He was scarred by a black man who is his inferior humiliated him so publicly, and made him a laughing stock. So he decided to show him and everyone who reveled in his humiliation. This was supposed to be his way to settle all of his old scores, and now look at him. Oh the humanity.
I remember reading that at the beginning of the Obama administration, when the economy was in full meltdown and the Obama admin. was bringing in business leaders to consult about the best way to fix it, Trump offered to help. His offer was never taken up, and he was very displeased. That added to his hatred of Obama, and the birther crap was his first attempt at revenge.
Perhaps he should have listened to the admonition is his number one favorite book of all time, “vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.”
sukabi
@debbie: he forgot to mentioned his tiny, shriveled hands.
MisterForkbeard
@WereBear: Yep. I just had a quick facebook conversation with a friend of a friend, who insisted that Hillary and Bill had done worse, that she was made of teflon, that all of her illegal acts get brushed under the rug, and that she was the most corrupt and evil person to ever run for office.
I really didn’t know what to say. I did ask what crimes she thought Hillary had actually committed, and didn’t get an answer. I think it’s all projection now – not sure what else it could be.
Villago Delenda Est
@Nelle: I can’t do that. My Senators and Rep are all Ds, and good Ds, not Manchin Ds, at that. Wyden, Merkley, DeFazio.
Mnemosyne
@dmsilev:
Here’s my observation: we think that “tone policing” is a sign of hypocrisy, but conservatives really believe it. They really think that it’s okay to say bigoted shit as long as you don’t use any overt racial slurs. So it was perfectly fine for Trump to call Mexican immigrants rapists and murderers as long as he didn’t call them “wetbacks” or “spics.”
But now Trump is revealed as a user of Naughty Words about Nice White Ladies (not just those Blacks and Browns who totally deserve it) and they really are genuinely shocked.
NoraLenderbee
I first read the headline as “Mike Pence: STILL Adorable.”
hovercraft
@Corner Stone:
Tweety did this way back in the Spring. I keep telling you he really likes him.
Mezz
How likely do folks think this scenario might be:
The die-hard Trump supporters (perhaps we should call them crypto-fascists) will begin to denounce the establishment Republicans (see Paul Ryan, Joe Heck, John McCain, Ayotte et al) with their preferred “cuck” nonsense, and still flock in droves to vote for The Leader and no other Republicans, creating a large “undervote” on the downcard.
The establishment Republicans who are (just now?!?!?) running away from him like high-grade Plutonium, will cast their votes for whatever idjit they choose (write-in Pence or whomever), crippling Trump’s overall vote from half of the party, but then they’ll vote for the Republican downcard.
So the result would be ultimately a massacre for the Republicans, right? If they split their vote between the Trumpenfuhrer and the NotTrump folks, and the crypto-fascists undervote the downcard significantly, would the House be genuinely in play for the Democrats?
In any event, the timing sure sucks for Trump. Couldn’t happen to a slimier fellow
Corner Stone
@lamh36: Oh, this is going to be glorious! GLORIOUS!!
jk
Tic Tac finally weighs in
Tic Tac USA Verified account
@TicTacUSA
Tic Tac respects all women. We find the recent statements and behavior completely inappropriate and unacceptable.
Corner Stone
@hovercraft:
No, you did not say that. You have never said that.
Bill_D
Link to Kos article I quoted above
danielx
@Elizabelle:
Not.
Yes, Pence was going to get run over by John Gregg. Be it noted that Pence’s designated stand-in, Eric Holcomb, isn’t exactly bent over double with enlightenment either.
Pence knew exactly what he was volunteering for, and it’s damn difficult to believe that anyone who would – of his own volition – become Trump’s running mate should even be considered as a Trump alternative by panicked Rs….
Corner Stone
@Mezz:
And you think it just seemed to happen after early voting started and we’re a month out from the final day of voting?
It’s called an October Sooprise for a reason.
David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch
BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHH
The idiot thinks he can somehow escape this.
Mnemosyne
@muddy:
Given his generation, I’m sure that Bill has indulged in some pretty crass locker-room talk in his day when he’s in an all-male group, but as multiple men (including our bloghost) have pointed out, while crass talk about sex is common, crass talk about sexual assault is NOT. Trump does not understand that line, because for him it’s all about dominance, not sex.
NoraLenderbee
@pattonbt:
From your mouth to God’s ears.
Villago Delenda Est
@Corner Stone: Needs more white hair to pull it off.
hovercraft
@jk:
He should go in a separate category, he has never been with Trump, and in his case it was not because of an election this year, but because of principal. I disagree with him on almost everything, but in this he was always on the right side.
gf120581
@hovercraft: Flake also was responsible for one of my favorite moments of this campaign season; that incident at the meeting Trump had with the Senate GOP caucus where he threatened Flake that if he didn’t get in line and support him he’d make sure he’d lose reelection. To which Flake replied, “Uh, Donnie, I’m not up this year.”
Brachiator
@Mnemosyne:
You’re right. And between Baldwin and guest host Lin Manuel Miranda, SNL had better hit this one out of the park.
muddy
@Mnemosyne: That’s what I’m saying. Bill wouldn’t say the assault-y shit because that’s not what he’s into. But Trump is. We’re in total agreement here.
hovercraft
@lamh36:
He is aware that she’s been through this before, right?
Talk about setting yourself up. He’s been telegraphing this for two weeks now, and he thinks he’s going to score points off of her husbands infidelity? Good luck with that, or rather should I say good night?
piratedan
@Mnemosyne: speaking as a guy (who has grown up… allegedly)
most commonplace would be something in the lustful/wistful range….
“Man, I’d like to tap THAT!”
what we’re hearing from Trump essentially boils down to…
“watch me while I take some of THIS!”
With Bill Clinton, it was apparently something along the lines of:
“How would you like some of THIS?”
I feel squeamish even trying to dissect it, but perhaps someone else can do better.
dmsilev
@shomi: Free clue: You’re not as smart or as insightful as you seem to think you are.
Lizzy L
@shomi: Silly shomi. No one here is taking that bait; I don’t know what blog you’re reading.
hovercraft
@David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch:
What makes him think that 48 hours will be long enough to quiet things down?
Corner Stone
@piratedan:
Sadly, and even though I feel a little uncomfortable admitting it, I said that same very thing today in the grocery store. I didn’t really feel bad at the time when I was thinking it, and I don’t think I meant to hurt or damage anything. But it’s way too easy to sometimes just give in to your inner impulses, your inner desires.
I saw that wheel of cheese and I was like, “Damn! It is so on! Let me hit that up a little bit!”
Corner Stone
@hovercraft: It’s almost like Pence has spent the last week doing everything he possibly could to get under Trump’s skin and get him to go nuts on him.
Hmmmm….
Corner Stone
“We pray for his family”
Ha! If that isn’t a smoking big F-U I don’t know what is, coming from your freakin’ running mate.
redshirt
@MisterForkbeard: Challenge them. I urge everyone to do this when someone says Hillary is this or that. Do so politely, but ask for specifics. If they give you BS, push back and ask again.
They won’t have answers. Probably won’t make a difference most of the the time, but maybe some of the time.
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: There’s a big difference between saying that and having a man on the sidewalk grab your breast as he walks by, and then he and his friends laugh as they walk on. (Ann Arbor, 1970)
ADDIGIZ
@Elizabelle: yes because no matter what we do as a country as long as FOX & NUTS is out their lying everyday and spinning an alternate reality none of this will EVER change.
Corner Stone
@dmsilev: Sorry to disagree with you but I don’t think you have any idea what you’re talking about here. Why, he made thousands of dollars trading in the US stock markets today alone. All while you were peeing your pants about everything cratering and the clenis being rammed into the debate town hall open area.
Kinda sad, really. Sad!
hovercraft
When Ben Carson is warning you……..
The blind leading the blind.
trnc
It’s adorable that anyone still believes that they can leak whitewashing information like this without it being obvious that it’s a leak.
Central Planning
They are in full denial. From the WaPo:
Who is really calling and saying that? Sycophants?
gogol's wife
@dmsilev:
Atticus Finch, report for duty!
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
So LSU won’t be hiring Tom Herman after all?
dmsilev
@Corner Stone:
Ahem. I believe proper usage is ‘the clenis being rammed down the throat of the debate town hall”.
jk
@Corner Stone:
Over the summer, Chris Matthews went on Morning Joe to plug his stupid Citizen Trump documentary and complained that Trump wasn’t running TV ads to boast of his ability to cut thru City Hall red tape to erect so many wonderful skyscrapers in NY. Matthews is nothing but a smarmy fucking moron.
Mnemosyne
@piratedan:
Yep. Bill is like, I could tap that, because I’m so suave. Trump is like, I could tap that, because I’m rich and she would be too afraid to bring charges.
And yet Creepy Donald thinks that’s the same thing.
dmsilev
@Central Planning: Or employees still holding out hope of getting their paycheck to clear.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: It’ll cool of some of those fire Kirby dudes too!
Hal
@Bill_D: I read something like this right before the dem convention when some Sander’s supporters were talking write-in before the convention. The main point then being Sanders was not running as a write in so don’t get your hopes up. Same applies here to anyone who thinks they can write in some alternative to Trump. That ship has long sailed.
debbie
Ivanka should be emerging about now.
Brachiator
@debbie:
Trump has stepped too deep into his own mess. There are too many pictures of Trump and Bill together, smiling, and sometimes with beautiful women, including Trump’s wife.
The most obvious cynical explanation is that Trump knew about and approved any of Clinton’s “bad boy” behavior.
There is no rational way that Trump supporters can stand by their man and bash Clinton. But then again, no one has ever claimed that Trump supporters are rational.
Baud
Q:. So how do we top the ratings for the first debate?
A:. I’ve got a cunning plan.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
The Vols are doing the comeback thing again.
Corner Stone
@jk: I rarely watch Moaner Joe but I have noticed Tweety saying repeatedly that Trump needs to “get back to building things” “He’s a builder of great things”.
Baud
Write in Baud!
Lyrebird
@hovercraft: Seriously!
I’m sure the way that I learned about Brer Rabbit stories was not the best, but I’m thinking about the “oh please don’t throw me in that briar patch” one. Mrs. WJC has had a few opportunities to field accusations about her husband’s behavior, just a few…
I have no desire to watch the debate, but I can almost imagine HRC looking forward to this one! (with her slime-proof gauntlets and so forth on)
lamh36
raven
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: Fuck em
gogol's wife
@redshirt:
I’ve done this repeatedly to my smug academic friends. (Innocently) “So what exactly did she do with her e-mails that’s so bad?” They can never answer the question.
Baud
@lamh36:
Technically true. It’s the nature of gravity.
hellslittlestangel
Trump really needs a Reichstag fire right about now.
Does that make him his own daughter? What is it with Republicans and creepy sex?
debbie
@Baud:
Uh oh. Will this be a long night of puns?
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: Did my comment seem like I was saying it is ok to assault women? I am not sure how to read your tag on to my comment there.
Mezz
@Corner Stone: Just glad it went (so far) in the right direction of surprise.
pattonbt
@hovercraft: 48 hours will be post debate. If trump drowns further, pence will bail (in some fashion), but if trump is the glorious winner in the villages eyes, all sins will be forgive and forward “team trump!”. Simple really. See if trump can dig himself out at the debate, if not I go into full save my own skin mode, no harm in waiting
redshirt
@gogol’s wife: Indeed. A great example, because there is nothing there. They bring up how she told the military to stand down at Benghazi, challenge them and say a SoS can’t do that.
Again, if folks are determined to hate Hillary, there’s little you can do. But there are some people out there that might see the light, and so it’s worth always trying to reach them since you can’t tell who it might be.
Schlemazel
@Baud:
Yet we constantly miss the sun while continually falling at it. Sigh, I guess the whole earth is a failure.
Corner Stone
@hellslittlestangel:
I think it’s like the old riddle of the surgeon in the ER doing surgery on their own grandson after a car crash. Who is the surgeon?
Baud
@Schlemazel:
Trumpified.
scav
@Bill_D: OK, so 7 states don’t allow write-in ballots at all and all but one are from the south / Red middle.
Eight states total don’t require registration of a write-in candidate.
Thirty-five states require write-in registration, (perhaps even a month before the election with additional hoops).
So, the plan is the official vice-presidential candidate is going to be added officially as a write-in candidate in all those states. That would make for a fine campaign camaraderie even without Miss Congeniality at the top of the ticket. This is a cunning cunning multi-dimentional (or is alternative universe) plan.
ETA: More Likely, to my mind, they’re possibly just cravenly lying to their own base to make sure they come to the polls and vote down-ticket.
OR, They’re idiots.
Corner Stone
@pattonbt:
He can’t win in this format. He is doing everything but firing flares over the HRC campaign right now. He is desperate to attack. And that will come off like shit in the town hall format. Some poor lady asks about Ford outsourcing jobs and he will start talking about NAFTA and end up talking about Bill raping people.
He can’t actually answer any policy questions. He has no idea what he’s talking about. He’s going to blather and bluster and then at some point 15 or so minutes in, HRC is going to say, *ahem* “lady parts”.
And it will be fucking over.
Iowa Old Lady
@Corner Stone: Not at all. I was trying to say that, as you know, there are degrees of this stuff, and what you were regretting seemed at the lesser end of the scale to me. As for a lot of women I’ve seen, Trump’s talk brought up memories I hadn’t thought of for a while, and I turned out to be more bitter about them than I realized. I meant to sympathize with you and my anger at someone else got in the way.
Villago Delenda Est
@dmsilev: Seconded.
Mnemosyne
@redshirt:
IIRC, one of the multiple Republican-run Benghazi committees definitely said there was no stand-down order. From anyone. It’s an urban legend, like claiming that you can accidentally microwave yourself in a tanning booth.
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: What do facts matter to a Wingnut?
raven
Yes, bye bye Butch!
Brachiator
No matter how you slice it, Trump is desperate now, and his handlers are pulling out everything they’ve got to save his campaign. And if Trump doesn’t nail it during the next debate, there won’t be a need for a third one.
But now, even if he nails it, he might only prevent a defeat from looking like a total disaster.
Come Sunday night, order up an extra side of freude to accompany your schaden.
redshirt
Also too, “Tic Tac” was the cute nickname Falcon gave to Ant-Man in Civil War.
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: Ok, thanks. I was making a joke about a sad, lonely old man (me) who is more excited about sampling cheese than ogling the ladies. I did not want to trivialize something as important as assault victims coming forward and getting help.support/etc.
Mnemosyne
@redshirt:
I’m just pointing you to the proper avenue of mockery. Believing that Hillary gave a “stand down” order is like believing that there are spider eggs in Bubble Yum or that Procter & Gamble is run by Satanists. There’s no need to treat the people who say that as anything other than utter loons who are stupid enough to believe anything.
? Martin
Sam Wang is suggesting on Twitter that the GOP may be preparing to write off the Senate and put everything on holding the House. From what I understand, a Clinton +7 win would probably flip the House.
Corner Stone
@Brachiator:
Not even Amazon Prime can deliver enough schaden in time for this Sunday night.
Aleta
@pattonbt: Trump may actually spend more ammunition and idiocy on the republicans then Hillary.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Baud: Equally true: The sun is plummeting towards the Earth.
Baud
@Comrade Scrutinizer: I blame Obama.
sukabi
@Corner Stone: the ONLY possible way for drumpf to come out of the debate in anything resembling coherent or sane, is if the only folks allowed in are all hard core drumpfkins…but even then, considering his not a prep townhall the other day he quit early and ended up just blathering on.
Corner Stone
Go fuck yourself, Isikoff.
JMG
@? Martin: Mr. Wang is too optimistic. No way Trump loses by more than 5. If we’ve learned one thing this year, it’s that a majority, a big one, of white men (my very demographic!) are hate-filled pigs.
I think there should be a Lysistrata movement. Vote for Trump, no sex for you forever.
hovercraft
@Central Planning:
The same people who were celebrating on rooftops on 9/11.
Also those many people who say………
Corner Stone
@Comrade Scrutinizer: Both sides?
pattonbt
@Corner Stone: I couldn’t agree more. I think trump is done regardless. But he’s damned he does and damned if he’s doesn’t. If he goes for real contrition, thectabid supporters will flay him, he goes full wingnut, and he loses the middle. Given who he is, he’s going full wingnut crazy.
hovercraft
@lamh36:
All the rats are pulling out of their appearances, including Rinse Pubis and Sean Spicer.
JPL
@chris: What a sweet pic. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
sukabi
@Hal: perfect candidate to write in instead of drumpf would be Deez Nuts.
? Martin
@Brachiator: I think a lot of this will depend on how well Trump can insulate himself with friendly voices. If the rallies are still boisterous, and his advisors are still telling him how great he is – even if he’s in electoral trouble, he’ll likely be able to plow ahead. He’s fighting the crumbling fantasy which is his perceived image. If he believes its intact and salvageable, he’ll fight for it. If he believes it’s lost and unrecoverable, he’ll fly apart. They really should take off the panels of political experts on the news shows and put on psychiatrists – that’s the territory we’re entering. They’ll have better insight about what’s going to happen next.
I think we’re at real risk of watching someone with a personality disorder come completely unlatched in view of the whole world. It’ll be a spectacle. It’ll be ugly. And the only people to blame will be the GOP voters that put him in that position.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@? Martin:
that’d be huge
twitter is also saying Conway and PRiebus are backing out of Sunday shows, both replaced by Rudi Giuliani. Cause if you’re problem is that your candidate has a record of treating women like sex objects….
The Lodger
@Corner Stone: Not quite “We pray he gets all that he deserves,” but it’s close.
Aleta
@Corner Stone: locally foraged tastes better anyway
Comrade Scrutinizer
@Corner Stone: 3rd Law. Which means, in a way, both sides. Shit. Betrayed by physics.
pattonbt
@pattonbt: damn I’m a terrible typist! “Thectabid”? Meant, the rabid. But again, trump is going to amazing in the worst jerry springer kind of way at this debate.
jl
@hovercraft: Did some phone banking today. Sadly there are earnest die-hard Trumpers out there. I am loathe to judge my fellow humans, but iMHO, they come in a few flavors: people someplace on the severe side of the racist/bigot spectrum, frightened authoritarians, and those who are, shall we say, none too bright. And maybe some younger male boors who are acting out, hard to tell if they really mean the crap they spout or just see at as joke to let off steam.
Thank God it was heavily scripted or I would have gone off on them.
As in “Look, what if Trump said if his kids got under his skin, he just grabbed them by the crotch and beat the crap out of them, and there was nothing they could do about it, he was a bigshot. They would take what he dished out. It’s ‘too PC’ to have a problem with that? You stupid or sick?”
But, I am good Dem foot soldier and didn’t say that.
Edit: Heard a number spout the ‘harmless locker room banter’ BS. Which, besides it not being that, lots of evidence he did that shit to people.
Fair Economist
@? Martin:
D+7 in the House is the knife edge – roughly the split between D and R control. Clinton will probably need to do better that +7 to pull the House vote over. How much better? Nobody knows. Wang says they tend to be close. In 2012 Obama won by 4 and the House Democrats by 1, so my guesstimate is Clinton needs to win by 10. Certainly not out of reach after this, though.
Jeffro
@? Martin:
it’ll be a nail-biter, for sure. I can’t think of a better gift to give President-elect Hillary Clinton than two D chambers to work with.
Omnes Omnibus
@pattonbt: I was just about to look up thectabid in the dictionary. It really should be a word.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I realize this is pretty much in the “Huh, he’s still with us?” file, but I find this surprising and sad
I think he and Cheney are the last living top of th ticket nominees to support Trump
Hal
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Wow. That’s some smart decision making.
Uncle Cosmo
@Brachiator: Schadenfreudelicious! Mit Schlag!
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: That is sad. Maybe he’s bitter about ’96.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: And some GOP pols, we assumed, were good people.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Corner Stone: You need to get Prime Now.
Baud
@Jeffro: A gift to us all.
Lurker Extraordinaire
@Corner Stone: That wheel of Brie had it coming! ;-)
redshirt
@Jeffro: My god it would be glorious. And I feel like there’s even less blue dogs to bog things down this time. And Hillary won’t try and appease the Repukes.
I appreciate the Saintly approach of Obama, especially when he started, but Hillary will have none of that and I can’t wait.
Schlemazel
@Comrade Scrutinizer:
The way I visualize it the sun and earth are both in their own “gravity wells” so we would fall into the deeper one of the sun not the other way around. But I suppose it is all relative.
Mark B
@scav: And a write-in vote for Pence could not be counted as a vote for Trump, so it would be a wasted vote. I encourage Republicans to do it, even though Pence is just as much a horrible person as Trump is.
Corner Stone
@Aleta: Mmmm, farm to table schaden! Now that’s what I call sexy!
Mnemosyne
I’m still hoping that my dream will come true and when the debate opens on Sunday night, the replacement for Donald Trump will walk out onto the stage:
Alan Keyes. Because when you’re totally fucked and you need a placeholder, he’s been expecting your call.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
since this news broke, has anybody heard a croak from whatever foul and fetid swamp Gingrich feeds in?
The Lodger
@Corner Stone: You didn’t know about their fleet of Schadendrones?
Feebog
@shomi:
Do you even read the comments? Or do you just post random shit dribbling out from “wherever”?
sukabi
@jl: that ship sailed a long time ago…
Baud
@Mnemosyne: The original 27%!
scav
To add to the sheer baroqueness of a day with the Bunny Protection Punch, candy companies tweeting with political fallout, trash-talk and sexual abuse being spun as standard family dinner-table fare and who knows what else, the WaPo is dragging in Gilgamesh while the NYT is going with Richard III to explain the current situation.
Donald Trump is a walking, talking example of the tyrannical soul
Shakespeare Explains the 2016 Election
Really? Well, ok, maybe, but only if scored by a slide-whistle and kazoo with the Keystone Kops as Chorus.
redshirt
@Schlemazel: The sun is falling towards the galaxy’s central black hole, yes? Earth’s influence on its gravity must be minuscule. Jupiter would have a bigger affect.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Gingrich is probably busy doing deep cogitations on intersecting issues on multiple levels. Like is brutally dumping your wife for your much younger mistress when your wife is dying of cancer worse than sexual molestation and physical assault on random chicks you find hot. I am sure he will emerge with with innovative out-of-the-box insights soon on some pundit talky show.
GOP, the morality party, the party of family values.
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: Mr. 27%! Reporting for duty!
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: I spatchcocked my thectabid last year. Was quite painful.
jk
Jeffrey Lord on Trump’s response: “So far, so good”
Unfuckingbelievable
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Yeah, once we’ve swapped out Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman and Blanche Lincoln for Evan Bayh, Joe Mancin and Heidi Heidkamp, Single Payer, the Carbon Tax and an end to the Hyde Amendment are within our grasp. Or are Tom Carper and Bob Casey still in the Senate?
? Martin
@JMG:
I think you’re overstating that. The loudest once certainly are, but I think there’s a lot of white men that aren’t. They just aren’t the kind to show up at rallies and call for their political opponent to be executed.
Schlemazel
@Mark B:
better to encourage Rs to stay home & teach the party a lesson. Also, if they are going to vote for Trump try to convince them that they should ONLY vote for Trump & no others as that will send a very clear message to the Party.
redshirt
So I can try and sway a few Trump supporters, can someone give me an idea how solid this “Trump repeatedly raped a 13 year old” info is? Is it hearsay or an unsupported quote?
scav
@Mark B: I was rather assuming they were jettisoning the whole idea of winning the presidency, but throwing the lightest possible deck-chairs out to preserve the down-ticket races. They really don’t want side theirs to stay home.
Mnemosyne
@Baud:
IIRC, Obama says that the first thing W said to him while greeting the newly-elected senators in 2004 was, You and I have something in common, Senator Obama — we both had to debate Alan Keyes.
? Martin
@Hal: Giuliani will go after Bill. Reince won’t.
raven
@redshirt: “Avoiding STDs “is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier. . . . This is better than Vietnam. It’s more fun.”
Baud
@Mnemosyne: Did Keyes run in 2000? The only Bush competitor I can remember is McCain.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Feebog: shomi reads the Ball Juice comments, not the Balloon Juice comments.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I went out to get the mail and the local deplorable is still deplorable(Trump bumper sticker is still on his Big Ass Truck).
Mnemosyne
@JMG:
In 2012, 62 percent of white men voted for Mitt Romney. I honestly don’t see how Trump can even come close to that number since he seems to be bleeding college-educated whites of both genders.
And if it makes you feel any better, when I was doing voter registration in Nevada last weekend, I had several old white guys tell me they were voting for Hillary because they can’t stand Trump. One of them was from Texas!
Lurker Extraordinaire
@redshirt: Apparently, it’s going to trial.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
The above is background from Snopes. Will see if I can find more.
sukabi
@redshirt: there is a court case pending with witnesses…one of the witnesses got the girls for trump and his friend, currently convicted pedo.
gf120581
@? Martin: Rudy also (a) has absolutely no shame or self-awareness and (b) is a washed up loser desperate for any bit of relevance. So yeah, he’s the perfect talking head/attack dog for Trump. I mean, who else were they going to get?
I’d like to think Conway has had enough and quits, but the Mercers are still backing Donnie and they’re the ones who sign her checks, so she may be stuck. But she’s got to be beside herself. All the hard work she did making Donnie seem almost human has been blown to smithereens.
? Martin
@redshirt: Here’s a good primer.
The first incident sounds a lot more familiar to people after the tape. The 2nd one is still too inflammatory to bring public, but if this stuff keeps piling up it’ll become impossible to ignore.
Calouste
@Hal: It just means that despite what Rudy thinks, he is just a spokesbot and doesn’t have any real influence in the campaign.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: Deplorable indeed.
Mnemosyne
@Baud:
Yes, and the magic Google tells me that Keyes stayed in the debates until at least the South Carolina primary, so he was persistent.
Villago Delenda Est
@Brachiator: And there is no way in hell he can nail the debate. He will turn into a puddle of goo. Hillary will mop the floor with the thing living on his head.
redshirt
@Lurker Extraordinaire: Wow. And how far along is this trial and why hasn’t this come up in the news? I know, IOKIYAR, but raping a 13 year old?! Jesus.
Jeffro
@redshirt:
Couldn’t agree more…although I’m sure the media will run plenty of interference for a beaten, broken Republican party…
Sure do wish PBO would put a timestamp on that Garland nomination. Let the Goopers really rip themselves to shreds calculating what to do (instead of just, you know, doing their jobs) in the face of an imminent Clinton win.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: I’m not convinced Trump was successful in his “Personal Vietnam”.
hovercraft
@jl:
I saw several of those types being interviewed on msnbc today, the silver lining is that they are still a minority of voters. The true believers will be with him till the bitter end. They will bitch like cray when he loses, claiming that it was stolen from him. The good news is that after the rats scurry away from him, they will blame the establishment of the party for his loss. They will say if only the Ryan’s of the world had stuck with him, he would have won. At the WI rally today there was a Trump supporter there to heckle Ryan, and she said she was mad at him because first he wouldn’t endorse Trump and even when he finally did, he kept criticizing him, and now today he’s abandoned him again. There will be war. As much fun as the next month will be, the aftermath of November 8 th will be something else.
This right now is 3 Mile Island, November 9 th will be Chernobyl.
Lurker Extraordinaire
@Lurker Extraordinaire: Here’s more.
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/federal-judge-orders-hearing-in-donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-case/
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: We were winning when I left!
redshirt
@BillinGlendaleCA: I’m waiting to see if some local signs disappear. Not betting on it, but hoping – for their sakes.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: Tertiary syphilis?
redshirt
@? Martin: Jesus. How is that not front page news everywhere?!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: It’d be irresponsible not to speculate.
lgerard
@gf120581:
I’m pretty certain Conway is out at this point. She has an actual business that focuses on helping companies (and major ones at that) appeal to woman.
Any further association with trump would kill that dead.
Aleta
@scav: Or King Lear twisted around with hopefully a different ending.
redshirt
@raven: So you’re the reason we lost?! ;)
Jeffro
Still having trouble with the thought that Tic Tacs and Skittles got dragged into this…
Anyway, just picture if Trump voters vote for him but skip the down-ballot…Establishment Rs write in St. Reagan for president and then vote straight R for the down-ballot…and higher-than-usual numbers of Rs stay home on Nov 8th…
I’m starting to see how this whole D-Senate and D-House thing might come to pass, but we still gotta G.O.T.V. folks. Whip up some popcorn tomorrow night, then get ready to work hard through Election Day!
hovercraft
@jk:
He also thinks Trump’s shit is the sweetest smell on Earth.
Oh and he invoked Ahnold’s election to Govenator, saying the last minute bomdshell in CA did not hurt him, and he won in a landslide. So……..
Jeffro
Also asking on Twitter for reporters to get busy looking into the Mercer family (Sr. and Rebekah)…it’s important that Ds see these “new Kochs” for what they are.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
on a hypothetical (don’t ‘wanna jinx anything by counting chickens) Senate takeover: is Schumer (and Leahy, the last of the stubborn old bulls, I believe) committed to getting rid of the filibuster?
ETA: also, any speculation about who MacAuliffe will appoint to replace Kaine?
tobie
I haven’t seen anyone mention this, so thought I should note that CNN has been playing a newly discovered tape of one of Trump’s conversations with Howard Stern that’s pretty gross. The orange blob talks about walking into the dressing rooms of beauty pageant contestants while they’re naked.
gf120581
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: There’s been a few names kicked about, like the House Reps. It’ll be interesting to see if they pick someone who’ll then run in the special or just appoint a placeholder (in that case it could be someone like Doug Wilder).
Schlemazel
@Omnes Omnibus:
I assume that is what the “J” stands for in his name.
Smiling Mortician
@chris: Nice. They really own that couch, don’t they?
Schlemazel
@Jeffro:
That was why I suggested earlier in the tread to encourage Rs to stay home but if they are voting for Trump they should skip all other races so that they would teach the GOP a lesson.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman:
Most likely, a mere colossal asshole.
? Martin
@redshirt: You can’t run that without more proof. A presidential nominee got millions of votes from voters. If you are going to call him a child rapist, you better fucking have ironclad evidence that it’s true. If the NYT ran that and it was false, that’d be the end of the NYT.
That said, the tape moves us closer to it being plausible, as will the comments about Paris Hilton. It’s still too far, but it’ll start to be murmured about in serious quarters.
sukabi
@efgoldman: don’t forget the party bosses who SHOULD HAVE actually vetted him….the shit that’s come out is all on tape, and apparently available to people who asked… it seems no one asked until recently.
? Martin
@efgoldman: Fair enough. At some point it’s going to feel like laughing at the disabled kid though. I really don’t like watching people be destroyed, even if they are vile assholes and it’s in the service of saving the country.
Omnes Omnibus
@? Martin: You can run the existence of the lawsuit as a story.
wenchacha
Heh. Now I want to hear Mike Fuckabee’s daughter (not the dog-torturing son) tell us about how great and Godly Trump is.
Ralph Reed,and all the rest of em can choke on it.