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Today we have several examples of hashtag (stochastic) violence and terrorism and leaderless resistance.  First up is a thwarted militia plot from Kansas. Three Kansan militia men were arrested today by the FBI and are now in the Sedgewick County Jail awaiting arraignment for plotting to attack an apartment complex housing Somali refugee families and a mosque in Garden City, KS on 9 November (h/t: Charles Johnson at LGF).

Next up, from yesterday actually, we have two fine, upstanding Trump supporters that decided to demonstrate that support by standing in front of Jane Dittmer’s campaign office in Palmyra, VA for 12 hours while legally open carrying handguns. Daniel Parks, who organized this two man protest, had this to say:

I’m just trying to provide a voice for someone who might be closet supporters of Trump. Other people that are a little worried to speak out because of possible persecution. We’re not a threat to anybody, the only threat is ignorance, and ignorance will breed fear.

Su Wolff who was onsite at the time volunteering in Ditmmer’s campaign office said:

He turned sideways to be sure that we would see that he has an open carry gun, which is legal, it’s fine, but it’s intimidating,” she said of one protester. “If he wants to support his candidate that’s fine, but don’t come here and stare into the office all day.

It is important to note that Virginia is a legal open carry state. That said, Mr. Parks remarks about the “only threat is ignorance and ignorance will breed fear” is part of the open carry argument of gun normalization. Gun normalization is the argument (belief?) that if open carry is legal, people will see open carriers open carrying and when they don’t see open carriers do anything threatening or illegal or anything bad happen, then they will stop being afraid of guns and the people that carry them – openly or otherwise.

Finally, we get to Trump’s own rally in Greensboro, NC where a couple of his supporters in attendance decided to rough up a protestor that displayed the American flag upside down, which is the classic symbol for distress.

Only 26 days to go… Stay frosty!

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  3. 3.

    Trentrunner

    @PaulW: Reached for comment, Trump says he never met the teleprompter, that the teleprompter was ugly, and that Hillary planted the teleprompter.

  6. 6.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The only possible response one can give to Daniel Parks is “dude, we’re so sorry about your small penis.”

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    I would have a much easier time accepting the arguments for open carry if it appeared to apply to non-whites. Since open carry for non-whites in practice turns out to be a death penalty crime, I have a hard time believing that it’s such a good idea.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Damn, I forgot about a forbidden word. Adam, would you be so kind as to get me out of moderation?

  9. 9.

    OldDave

    Only 26 days to go…

    By my count we have “only” 24 days to go until Election Day. I’m not sure I can take much more – the old guy running the checkout and his fellow old guy bagger at my local grocery today were going on and on about how De Niro has said much worse than The Donald in his movies. The “it’s only words” meme seems to have taken hold as valid exculpatory reasoning. They don’t seem to notice Trump’s actions appear to go way beyond “mere words”.

  15. 15.

    OldDave

    @Adam L Silverman: Sadly, I missed 11/1 when I made my countdown calendar. My mistake. And I don’t count election day itself, as one typically says “N days to go”, so day ‘1’ will be Monday 11/7.

    So 25 days to go. I may not survive it.

  18. 18.

    Nom de Plume

    @OldDave:

    the old guy running the checkout and his fellow old guy bagger at my local grocery today were going on and on about how De Niro has said much worse than The Donald in his movies.

    Being able to separate reality and fantasy is not the strong suit of people like that.

  19. 19.

    dedc79

    Hey, nothing to worry about, Parks is just standing his ground….

    “He might be pulling out, but we’re not pulling out, and I’m going to stand my ground and speak out for what I believe in,” he said.

  23. 23.

    BBA

    I would just like to point out that the richest man in Mexico, owner of the country’s largest telco and a sizable stake in the NY Times, really is named Carlos Slim. When Trump rants about the international conspiracy against him, he is not just making up a stereotypical bandito from a bad Western to be the ringleader.

  40. 40.

    GregB

    In regards to the gun thugs, First Amendment warriors lurking outside Democratic offices.

    I seem to recall a decade long freakout about New Black Panthers wielding clubs as being the mmost intimidating action ever.

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Zach: Red hat guy is an interesting character. One of about 3 or 4 African Americans in attendance. Also a homocon for Trump.
    http://www.joemygod.com/2016/10/14/north-carolina-jubilant-homocon-ejected-from-trump-rally-after-putting-protester-in-a-headlock-video/

    NORTH CAROLINA: Jubilant Homocon Ejected From Trump Rally After Putting Protester In Headlock [VIDEO]
    October 14, 2016 Homocons, News, Teabagistan

    At Donald Trump’s rally in North Carolina this afternoon, a man wearing a “Gays For Trump” shirt and carrying a rainbow flag was ejected by police after he reportedly put a protester in a headlock. In the video below, the protester is removed first as the homocon wades into the crowd to a chorus of cheers and high-fives.

    Moments later the alleged attacker is also ejected as the crowd chants, “Let him stay!” As the homocon passes the camera, somebody asks, “Why did you hit him?” The man responds, “I didn’t.” At that moment you can see that he has a Human Rights Campaign sticker on his Trump hat.

    UPDATE: A second video reveals that the attack was very violent. I’ll update this post if we learn that an arrest was made.

  43. 43.

    Matt

    It is important to note that Virginia is a legal open carry state.

    It’s also a STAND YER GROUND state. Be a real shame if a staffer “felt threatened” by two armed yoyos staring through the window for hours and had to defend themselves with deadly force.

  44. 44.

    Adam L Silverman

    @GregB: While that terrified young, white woman just went about her business talking on her cellphone, completely nonplussed by the presence of the menacing New Black Panthers.

  45. 45.

    Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck

    @F:
    There were fascinating incidents early in Obama’s presidency where these knuckleheads would do stuff like drive across country to ‘citizens arrest’ a judge whose verdict they didn’t like, and let the local sheriff know, just assuming the sheriff would back them up.

  49. 49.

    Felonius Monk

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I hope its not a Galaxy 7.

    I wonder if we could convince Trump to supply each of his supporters with a Galaxy Note 7. Let them feel the burn, so to speak.

  50. 50.

    rikyrah

    Taniel ‏@Taniel 5h5 hours ago

    Oh my: Early voting turnout is up 59% in Northern Virginia, & just 5% in the rest of the state.h/t @LPDonovan

  56. 56.

    rikyrah

    I just did my civic duty and Early Voted. From beginning to end, took me 10 minutes.
    Chicago folks, if you are downtown, you can Early Vote at 15 W. Washington. (The old Walgreens). They have plenty of voting machines. Open 7 days a week. From now until October 24th-Monday through Friday, 9 am – 5 pm.
    Saturday, 9 am – 5 pm. Sunday, 10 am – 4 pm.
    Not registered?
    Doesn’t matter. You can do Grace period registration, where you register and vote at the same time. All you need is two pieces of ID, which can range from a US Passport to mail addressed to you in the last 30 days.
    GOTV!!!

    Beginning October 24th, that is when the city will have 51 sites. One in each Ward, and downtown.

    If you have any questions about voting, for Chicago or Suburban Cook County, the offices are now open 7 days a week. Just call if you need information about voting.

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    ABC News PoliticsVerified account
    ‏@ABCPolitics
    JUST IN: Judge orders North Carolina to extend voter registration deadline in 36 counties

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    @rikyrah: I am having anger flashbacks from 2012 where I was an election judge and our fucking county clerk would not let people in our county do the grace registration period. If you came in for the grace voting, they made you fill out a card that said you wanted to grace vote. They would then mail you something that you had to bring in to grace vote and when you got there with your little piece of paper, THEN they would mail you out a ballot that you then had to bring back in. I am enraged just thinking about it. I will let you guess the political party of the county clerk.

    I keep seeing Kirk’s ads fly by when I watch TV (I have tivo so I fast forward through all commercials). I no longer trust my gut on whether someone can be elected in Illinois – do you think there’s any chance Kirk will be re-elected? (I still cannot bear to say the name of our governor.)

  62. 62.

    Adam L Silverman

    @WaterGirl: I don’t know. I haven’t seen any reporting indicated what happened. Based on past incidents like this, the cops take everyone’s information, then go back and check video, talk to witnesses, and figure out whether to charge or not. That seems to be how they handled things like this at previous Trump rallies and events.

  63. 63.

    Prescott Cactus

    Living in an open & concealed carry state I always think that if a “situation” occurs where things go South, the guys who open carry are going to be the first to absorb lead as the tragedy unfolds. It’s like wearing a t-shirt with a big target that say “shoot me first”.

  64. 64.

    OldDave

    @hovercraft:

    …explain that movies are not real?

    I’ve got a tooth abscessing. All I wanted to do was buy my various soft foods and get the hell out of there. Just wasn’t in the mood to argue with other retirement age folk.

  65. 65.

    rikyrah

    CheeseheadLucy ‏@cheeseheadlucy 18h18 hours ago

    I do not want you up my skirt
    I do not want you down my shirt
    I do not want you near my rump
    I do not want you Donald Trump! #TrumpDrSeuss

  66. 66.

    hovercraft

    Looks like Darrell Issa may be in trouble. From GOS

    In changing the race Friday from “leans Republican” to “toss up,” the Cook analysts noted:

    “As it turns out, it’s possible to be the wealthiest member of Congress and still run a very poor campaign. Issa, the former House Oversight chair, has cruised to reelection over a decade, but recently he’s been high-profile Trump booster in a rapidly changing, well-educated district where Trump is toxic.”
    Issa is not just a “high profile Trump booster.” He recently accepted an invitation to serve on Trump’s National Security Advisory Council, bwa-ha-ha.

    New brutal ad by Colonel Applegate’s team, running on prime-time TV:Watch

  67. 67.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    I’ve volunteered to be a poll watcher/observer throughout early voting (which begins Monday in some locations) and on Election Day itself. I did this in 2014 for both the primaries and midterms, and found it enjoyable, with long stretches of boredom interrupted by occasional flurries of activity. For this election, I expect it will be exactly the opposite!

    Am going for training tomorrow afternoon and I guess I’ll get my location assignments then.

  70. 70.

    Dmbeaster

    @BBA: Carlos Slim, sounds like a snappy name for those trendy taco trucks he is going to put on every corner soon.

  71. 71.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @OldDave:

    I’ve got a tooth abscessing.

    Ow, I’m so sorry. Those things hurt like sin. Hope you have a dentist appointment first thing tomorrow.

  72. 72.

    hovercraft

    @WaterGirl:
    Norther Virginia is basically the DC suburbs (blue), and where most of the people are, Southern VA is more rural and is redder, with the exception of Richmond and it’s suburbs which are also blue.

  73. 73.

    rikyrah

    Mark Elliott
    ‏@markmobility
    92% of people being detained in Chicago area’s Cook County jail haven’t been convicted; they simply can’t make bail.

  75. 75.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Prescott Cactus: The OCers argue that no, because no one is stupid enough to attack an obviously hard target (someone open carrying). The CCers argue yes, because OCing makes you a visible target to be eliminated first. Then the fights in the comments devolve into demands for data, statements that the plural of anecdote isn’t data, resorting to discussions of natural and Constitutional rights, and what makes a good barbecue gun versus for everyday open carry.
    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/10/robert-farago/blue-force-gear-quote-of-the-day-bob-owens-is-not-a-fan-of-open-carry/

    Enjoy!

  78. 78.

    Adam L Silverman

    @rikyrah:

    You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

    Not to make light of the situation. Its a mess and its not just Chicago.

  80. 80.

    bcw

    When the guys with guns show up we need to have some counter-protestors standing at attention next to them with silly props – like toilet plungers held like rifles or pink flamingos….

  81. 81.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: Its the Jewish sabbath. She and Jared will be offline until tomorrow after sundown. And then offline again from Sunday at sundown through Tuesday at sundown for the first two (celebratory) days of Sukkot.

  84. 84.

    gf120581

    @Lizzy L: Issa’s genuinely in trouble, partly due to Trump, partly due to his own failings, partly due to his opponent (Applegate is rather impressive), but also because California is looking particularly hostile to Republicans this election. Not only is Trump looking at an epic blowout loss, but the other statewide election, the Senate race, is a Democrat on Democrat affair. Therefore, a lot of Republicans may well just sit out the election entirely and that could massacre Republicans on the down ballot. Issa’s just one of several House Republicans out there in serious trouble.

    Plus, this is Cook. They’re as conservative in their rankings as it gets and don’t make race changes unless they’re absolutely sure. If they say it’s a tossup, believe it.

  85. 85.

    hovercraft

    @rikyrah:
    This is just stupid, republicans should just have done this themselves, Batboy and McCory even if they didn’t have the authority themselves could have asked their legislators to extend the period and looked like they care about the franchise. Not doing this gives people the impression that when the democrats say republicans want to restrict access to the ballot, they are right. Sheesh, at least fake it, it was a frickin hurricane.

  86. 86.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @rikyrah:

    Early voting turnout is up 59% in Northern Virginia

    Didn’t a commenter who lives there mention earlier today that NoVa is a Dem stronghold? That can only be good news.

  89. 89.

    laura

    @Mary G: the Sac Bee had an editorial about Sutter’s illness and hoe meaningful our companion animal relationships are.
    I am unskilled at the linky as I’m an old and have no teens. However, I urge the creature people – and YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, to set the google-tubes to Sutter brown and sacbee.com and get a tissue handy.

    You can also see the wee corgis on the Beer Bike.

    I drove past the Governor’s Mansion after work on the way home and sent a thought their way. BTW, it’s the home that Jerry’s Family lived in when Pat Brown was Governor and all good things were possible.

    I’ve been crushing on Sutter for years. Good dog. stay.

  90. 90.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Dmbeaster:

    Carlos Slim, sounds like a snappy name for those trendy taco trucks he is going to put on every corner soon.

    That’s supposed to be a secret.

  91. 91.

    Mary G

    @hovercraft: YES! People thought I was crazy when I first said we could get Issa, but even the establishment Republicans around here agree he’s in trouble and that he deserves it. He said he always wins without campaigning, so he’d make a few appearances and that would be fine. Turns out voters don’t like being taken for granted.

    Now Issa is throwing money at the problem, and mud at his opponent, but Col. Applegate doesn’t just have volunteers like me knocking on doors, he is doing it himself and he comes across very well. Even people who won’t vote for him like him.

    We’ve got CA 49 from safe Republican to leans Republican to toss up. Momentum!

  98. 98.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @rikyrah:

    Clinton overtakes Trump in deep-red Arizona

    There wasn’t a link to whatever poll this is, but I assume her lead is still within the MoE? Well, I don’t care, the trend lines are terrific. Arizona is too awesome a state to support the politics/politicians it has had for so long.

  99. 99.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @laura: Wait, the Governor’s living in the Governor’s Mansion? That hasn’t happened in almost 50 years.

  103. 103.

    Steve in the ATL

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:

    Didn’t a commenter who lives there mention earlier today that NoVa is a Dem stronghold?

    It is, and has been for years. Thousands upon thousands of people there who work for the federal government directly or indirectly. Government shutdowns and temporary furloughs have not played well there. Not. At. All.

  104. 104.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mary G: It also helps that Col. Applegate has never falsified his military service record in his professional bio. Also, never been suspected of arson for insurance fraud, grand theft auto, and brandishing a firearm while making terroristic threats.

  106. 106.

    rikyrah

    From Alabama:

    Endorsement: We’re with Hillary Clinton. Frankly, Donald Trump’s dangerous.

    Donald Trump must not be president.

    Alabama has voted for every Republican candidate since Ronald Reagan, a man that captured our imagination with a hopeful view
    of America as a shining city upon a hill.

    Nearly 40 years later, Donald Trump offers a deeply cynical view of an America in ruin, an America that seems to exist only in his own dangerous mind.

    Even before the revelation of video evidence of Trump making lewd, demeaning comments advocating sexual advances on women against their will, we knew that he was unfit to lead this country. We unite with people across this nation —people of all parties, including an increasing number of Republicans — to reject the pessimism of his candidacy.

    Following the national party realignment of the mid-20th century, anger and distrust of the Democratic Party runs as deep in Alabama as anywhere in the country. And while more than 300,000 people supported her in the state primary, distrust of Hillary Clinton runs even deeper for many.

    But 2016 isn’t a normal election cycle, and Donald Trump isn’t a normal presidential candidate. Nor is he a normal Republican. He is a man who is frighteningly unfit to be president. And she is his only roadblock.

  109. 109.

    hovercraft

    @debbie:
    Well she has an excuse till the end of the Sabbath, I saw something today where she was getting criticism over her refusal to answer questions about the accusers. Yesterday she did a townhall in Philly, but it was a friendly crowd who only asked softball questions.

  111. 111.

    Mary G

    @laura: Here’s the link to the SacBee piece on Sutter Brown.

    I suspect my relationship with Sutter is owed to the Browns’ well-known frugality. They asked me to watch him while they traveled. I’m the Humane Society’s lobbyist. Who has more riding on keeping California’s first dog happy and safe?

    So began a chapter that I’ll never forget or replicate – and a scandal of no proportion. The NRA tried to suggest untowardness about a lobbyist walking the governor’s dog. It never stuck because everyone could tell it was a genuine friendship.

    The whole thing is worth a read if you need a Trump break.

    ETA: another quote:

    More news teams covered Sutter’s visit to San Diego than greeted Michelle Obama the week before.

  112. 112.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @Lizzy L:

    I’m going to donate more $$ to Applegate’s campaign.

    I suppose I could check, but is Applegate one of the down-ballot candidates on the BJ Act Blue thermometer?

  113. 113.

    TS

    @debbie:

    Ivanka seems to have gone silent.

    Has there ever been another nominee for President where the candidate’s wife has been noticed by her absence? Some make few speeches but are certainly seen at campaign rallies.

  117. 117.

    Lizzy L

    While we’re talking about Trump’s kids, I just want to say that DT Jr. is a putz. (Can I say that w/o going into moderation?) He’s being quoted as saying that women who can’t handle workplace sexual harassment should teach kindergarten. Privileged little M-F wouldn’t last a week in a kindergarten.

  118. 118.

    rikyrah

    David Bernstein @davebernstein
    This is getting serious. If any women come forward w/ recent allegations against Trump (w/in statute of limitations), he is getting charged.
    12:31 PM – 14 Oct 2016
    24 24 Retweets 25 25 likes

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    @WaterGirl:
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Issa-s-Army-record-in-doubt-3087843.php

    Republican U.S. Senate candidate Darrell Issa says that during the Vietnam War he served with an elite Army bomb unit, traveling with then-President Richard Nixon to protect him from harm.
    He attended baseball’s World Series in 1971 as part of the president’s security entourage, Issa once told an interviewer.
    But military records obtained by The Examiner and interviews with former soldiers cast doubt on the stories the millionaire executive-turned-politician tells about his Army days.
    The records show that Issa’s service on what he terms an
    “Army security team” amounted to less than six months on a bomb-disposal squad in 1971. That’s scant experience to qualify him for presidential security duty, former GI bomb experts say.
    Issa couldn’t have guarded Nixon at the World Series because the president didn’t attend, according to the Nixon Presidential Library in Yorba Linda.
    According to records and interviews, Issa’s service on the bomb squad was marred by a bad conduct rating, a demotion and allegations that he had stolen a fellow soldier’s car.
    Issa declined to be interviewed for this story. A spokesman said Issa accurately has described his military past and had compiled a distinguished service record. But one former GI says he has a different memory of Issa.
    “That kid stole my car out of the parking lot and took it to Cleveland, and I knew he did it,” said retired 1st Sgt. Jay Bergey, who served with Issa in 1971 on the 145th Ordnance Detail, an Army bomb squad stationed near Pittsburgh.
    “I confronted Issa. . .. . I got in his face and threatened to kill him, and magically my car reappeared the next day, abandoned on the turnpike,” the retired soldier said in a phone interview from his home in Pennsylvania.
    Issa was not prosecuted and “he left the unit very shortly after that,” the former soldier said.

    http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/issa-was-accused-car-theft-misstating-army-record-8134

    For its own story on Issa’s prospects as chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the New Yorker magazine decided to read Issa’s California press clippings.

    The result is a brittle portrait of a former car alarm magnate whose background is littered with controversy: arrests for gun possession and car theft; accusations of arson; apparent misrepresentations of his military record.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/01/24/dont-look-back-ryan-lizza

    In May of 1998, Lance Williams, of the San Francisco Examiner, reported that Issa had not always received the “highest possible” ratings in the Army. In fact, at one point he “received unsatisfactory conduct and efficiency ratings and was transferred to a supply depot.” Williams also discovered that Issa didn’t provide security for Nixon at the 1971 World Series, because Nixon didn’t attend any of the games.

    A member of Issa’s Army unit, Jay Bergey, told Williams that his most vivid recollection of the young Issa was that in December, 1971, Issa stole his car, a yellow Dodge Charger. “I confronted Issa,” Bergey said in 1998. “I got in his face and threatened to kill him, and magically my car reappeared the next day, abandoned on the turnpike.”
    On March 15, 1972, three months after Issa allegedly stole Jay Bergey’s car and one month after he left the Army for the first time, Ohio police arrested Issa and his older brother, William, and charged them with stealing a red Maserati from a Cleveland showroom. The judge eventually dismissed the case.

    While the Maserati case was pending, Issa went to college. Just before 11 p.m. on Friday, December 1, 1972, two police officers on patrol in the small town of Adrian noticed Issa driving a yellow Volkswagen the wrong way down a one-way street. The police pulled him over, and, as Issa retrieved the car registration, an officer saw something peculiar in the glove compartment. He searched it, and, according to the police report, found a .25-calibre Colt automatic inside a box of ammunition, along with a “military pouch” that contained “44 rounds of ammo and a tear gas gun and two rounds of ammo for it.” Issa was arrested for carrying a concealed weapon. The policeman asked why he was armed. “He stated in Ohio you could carry a gun as long as you had a justifiable reason,” the report said. “His justifiable reason was for his car’s protection and his.” Issa pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of possession of an unregistered gun. He paid a small fine and was sentenced to six months’ probation.

  126. 126.

    rikyrah

    (((tedfrank)))‏@tedfrank

    If you had “GOP candidate rolls out pimp for gay pedophiles to rebut claim of sexual assault” in the headline pool, 2016 is your lucky year.

  127. 127.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Who said I was a liberal? I’m a registered member of the Attila the Hun/Genghis Khan 12th Way for the Future Party.

  128. 128.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @Mary G:

    Ah, thanks. I might need to look under the sofa cushions and see if I can find a little money to throw his way.

  129. 129.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m a registered member of the Attila the Hun/Genghis Khan 12th Way for the Future Party.

    I’m intrigued, does your party have a newsletter perchance?

  130. 130.

    Adam L Silverman

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Written in blood on human skin! If you’re going to make a statement, do it with flair and panache.

    Also, please click on the link below on how you can survivalize your yurt in case of the EMP apocalypse…

  135. 135.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Baud: How many other potential pretenders to the throne have you flayed alive? Also, rounded or spiked stakes for impalement, please take three paragraphs to justify your answer.

  136. 136.

    Mary G

    @Adam L Silverman: He did have a restraining order against placed by his ex-wife and of course Darrell is running commercials of a man in black creeping around a house at night. If you Google Applegate, the first two results are ads placed by Issa’s campaign – Stalking, Dangerous Behavior and More.

    It’s not as helpful because the ex and kids are vouching for his character now that emotions have calmed down since the restraining order was filed.

    My ballot just came!

  137. 137.

    Prescott Cactus

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Enjoy!

    At least there weren’t any clowns or Tijuana donkeys.

    I didn’t believe that you could really feel your IQ drop by reading an article and then the comments. Never been so wrong in my life.

  142. 142.

    Adam L Silverman

    @raven: He’s one of the ones that couldn’t be satisfied with the service they did and take pride in it, regardless of what it was, and decided he needed to embellish. Also, he appears to have been a crook while he was serving – stealing one of his NCO’s cars.

  145. 145.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Mary G: I saw that when I did the search because I couldn’t remember if Applegate was Army or Marines. Really not sure Issa wants to get into a public debate over court filings for misbehavior.

  149. 149.

    JR in WV

    @Mary G:

    I’m way too far away from CA to work for Col. Applegate, but we used ActBlue to contribute one day a couple of weeks ago. We also contributed to Donna Ross in NC and two others who’s names don’t come to me right now.

    Mrs J was dismayed at the budget hit, but didn’t actually complain out loud. She’s retired now, but was elected to SecTreas of her national union local in the CWA, and is a labor rabble-rouser.

    We also hit up the B-J ActBlue account pretty hard. I have to quit now, except for one more monthly contribution to Hillary’s campaign already in progress. And phone banking as much as I can stand it, every other day is about tops for me.

  150. 150.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Prescott Cactus: The worst ones are some of the ones I linked to in the original post because of pictures of the author of the post. The author, an old guy who likes to open carry while wearing an outdoorsman’s shirt, cargo shorts, socks up to his knees with hiking boots, a pith helmet, and a porn stache, likes to put pictures of himself in the above garb in his posts.

  151. 151.

    redshirt

    @Mary G: My new passport just came! I feel a sense of relief knowing I can legally escape the country from 11/8 – 1/20 if Trump is somehow elected. I’ve already got a backup compound ready.

  152. 152.

    OldDave

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:

    Ow, I’m so sorry.

    Thank you. I saw my dentist today – and got confirmation of the infection and a script for a week’s worth of heavy-duty antibiotics. Sometime late next week I have an appointment for a root canal – which might sound like hell to some, but it beats this.

  156. 156.

    Joel

    Is open carry sufficient threat for a stand your ground defense? I could imagine that it might be.

  157. 157.

    Jeffro

    @Roger Moore:

    I would have a much easier time accepting the arguments for open carry if it appeared to apply to non-whites. Since open carry for non-whites in practice turns out to be a death penalty crime, I have a hard time believing that it’s such a good idea.

    Police in general are appalled; one wonders why we don’t hear more from them about this…

    Open carry is intimidation, pure and simple, and it’s all linked to white fear and white supremacy.

  160. 160.

    Jeffro

    @OldDave:

    The “it’s only words” meme seems to have taken hold as valid exculpatory reasoning. They don’t seem to notice Trump’s actions appear to go way beyond “mere words”.

    Not to mention the difference between playing a character in a movie, and running of president/leader of the free world?

  161. 161.

    Mary G

    Applegate interview with the local PBS station

    Doug Applegate, a retired Marine colonel and a political newbie, was unknown in the 49th Congressional District until this year.

    When polls first began to show that he was narrowly trailing his opponent, incumbent Darrell Issa, the Democratic National Committee began to support him.

    Polling has shown each candidate up and down. In the June primary, Applegate came within a few points of Issa.

    The 49th Congressional District includes Del Mar, Solana Beach, Encinitas, Carlsbad, Oceanside, Vista and San Clemente.

    Applegate joined KPBS Midday Edition on Wednesday. Hear Midday Edition’s interview with Issa here.

    INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS

    On why he’s running for Congress

    Because of what I’ve done before. I’ve had the honor of serving in the Marine Corps since 1974 — once a Marine, always a Marine. The thing that I like about the Marine Corps is we were always Democrats, Republicans or no party preference, independents, but it never made a difference to the mission. It never made a difference on how we approach problems. We got things done even though we might’ve been placed in situations where it was difficult because some things weren’t as thought out as they should’ve been.

    So I thought more than ever — in this particular era, in this particular election — that an outsider with an appreciation of what goes on after Congress makes its decisions would have a better opportunity to give perspective and to get to solutions.

    On some people’s view that Hillary Clinton is “a flawed candidate”

    I don’t agree with that assessement.

    On Donald Trump

    I’m looking at things as a veteran. I know one thing: Donald Trump is wholly unqualified to be the commander in chief of the United States armed forces. I’ve talked to my peers and mentors, flag and general officers and no presidential candidate has frightened, I think, the military more than Donald Trump.

    On vetting Syrian refugees

    They’re getting an awful lot of vetting already. I mean, first of all, this is not a new process for the Department of the United States military in conflict areas. … I’m confident from past experiences, with vetting refugees in combat areas, that it can be done.

    On the San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station

    I live in San Clemente and that has been an issue with respect to San Onofre, or SONGS, since I got back from Okinawa as a young lieutenant in 1981. You have 380 million pounds of radioactive fuel rods that have never been moved from San Onofre. It needs to be moved because it’s in the middle of 12 million Southern Californians. It would wreak havoc on the economy of Southern California.

    On climate change

    The Navy already has a plan that Congress is voting against, the Republicans in Congress are voting against. Darrell Issa showing no leadership with no respect to what the Navy and what the Marine Corps want: to protect installations along the shore.

    The other thing that needs to be addressed is what the Navy and the Marine Corps have been asking for in the last 10 years. They’ve been going up to the Hill — pounding on doors, pounding on tables — wanting a Manhattan Project-style research program for renewable fuels. That’s what needs to be done and the Republicans and Darrell Issa have been ignoring the Navy and the Marine Corps. We need renewable fuel projects and technology and San Diego and Southern California needs to lead the way.

    On the struggle of Democrats and Republicans working together in Congress

    I can work with anyone — as long as we’re headed towards the right solution.

  163. 163.

    dmsilev

    @Major Major Major Major: Still babbling about Nevada? I guess we can admire their persistence if nothing else.

    Also, re: fluoride, I give it until Tuesday before Trump starts talking about Purity of Essence and his Precious Bodily Fluids.

  165. 165.

    Elie

    @OldDave:

    I tell ya, the election is just the beginning of a process that is not going to be easy or pretty. The more scorned Trump is, the more extreme will be his exhortations. He IS the Muncharian candidate for Putin — as the Economist says, Trump is debasing the American political system. He is sowing discord and hammering in wedges wherever he can.. Is this in service to his Russian master? Who knows? We all want it to be over but it will be a challenge for us for a while to come. I don’t see how this won’t affect the Dems as well. Yep, the Republicans are responsible for bringing us to this, but they cannot bear the full responsibility for fixing our now very very broken system. They for the most part, seem to be incapable of that kind of moral activity. They have completely debased themselves. Still we have to find some of those among them who want to build from this to come back to what it means to be the American union.

  169. 169.

    Jeffro

    @Matt:

    It’s also a STAND YER GROUND state. Be a real shame if a staffer “felt threatened” by two armed yoyos staring through the window for hours and had to defend themselves with deadly force.

    I honestly did not know that (that VA had a SYG law in place). Ugh.

  170. 170.

    Elie

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Is it possible that Facebook has caused the destruction of the American civil community? I dunno…. too many crazies have a voice but to no good purpose. I don’t get it. Our worst, very worst selves seem to emerge…

  177. 177.

    raven

    @Jeffro: Shit, I was driving from Lynchburg to Roanoke and stopped at a pop up flea market. Dude had AK’s and AR 15’s and was selling them openly. It was totally legal.

  178. 178.

    hovercraft

    @TS:
    She says she has a young son to raise, so she can’t campaign. Plus I’m sure Donald wouldn’t want her campaigning, it might make her hard and turn her into an executive. And he goes through the roof if he comes home and dinners not ready. I guess they wives who did campaign who had young kids were bad mothers and bad wives.

  179. 179.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Baud: I’ve been working my way through the article. It came out after I hit publish or I’d have included it.
    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/trump-accuser-says-she-leaving-country/AAbPU8RUe3AUjWvzt5OpMO/

    PALM BEACH
    Mindy McGillivray of Palm Springs said she is planning to leave the United States because she fears for her family’s safety since she publicly accused Donald Trump earlier this week of groping her in 2003.

    “We feel the backlash of the Trump supporters. It scares us. It intimidates us. We are in fear of our lives,’’ she said in an interview Friday with The Palm Beach Post.

    McGillivray, 36, has been staying in a hotel in the three days since she told her story to The Palm Beach Post, one of at least four women across the United States who have accused Trump of inappropriately touching them. Trump has denied the accusations, calling them total fabrications.

    But she said got a scare Thursday night when she returned to the Palm Springs house she shares with her daughter and stepdad to pick up clothes.

    “I look out the window and there are cars just driving around the house and looking, slowing down right at the house,’’ she said.

    “I don’t live in a gated community. This is dangerous. There could be people out there who want to hurt us.’’

  181. 181.

    Jeffro

    @bcw:

    When the guys with guns show up we need to have some counter-protestors standing at attention next to them with silly props – like toilet plungers held like rifles or pink flamingos….

    it’s a great idea, but the counter-protestors need to make sure both the media AND the police are going to be there, preferably in advance. These gun nuts obviously have issues and while the flamingo-wielders would of course be within their rights to counter-protest, we don’t want them to be ‘dead right’.

  182. 182.

    Major Major Major Major

    @Elie: ”twas ever thus, new technologies just make it more and more visible. As the barrier to speak is lowered, the ease of accessing the weird increases. You’ll notice that I didn’t report on people talking about sports or posting science puns, so the outliers get nutpicked and amplified, too.

  183. 183.

    redshirt

    @Mary G: I LOVE IT! LOVE IT! He’s taking away some bread and butter issues from the Repukes – specifically, military service. But also how that service informs a political viewpoint. As he said, the military really is desperately searching for alternative fuels. I worked briefly for a company that had a pretty large contract with the military on that matter. And why wouldn’t they? It’s good military. Same with Climate Change. To the military, it’s real and needs to be planned for. And why wouldn’t they? It’s good military. Prepare for the future.

    Republicans are literally anti-military at this point, but they still win the military vote. And convey some tough guy association with the military.

  184. 184.

    Jeffro

    @bcw:

    When the guys with guns show up we need to have some counter-protestors standing at attention next to them with silly props – like toilet plungers held like rifles or pink flamingos….

    it’s a great idea, but the counter-protestors need to make sure the media AND the police are there, preferably in advance. These gun nuts are…nuts…and while the flamingo-wielders would be well within their rights to counter-protest, we don’t want them to be ‘dead right’

  191. 191.

    Jeffro

    @bcw:

    When the guys with guns show up we need to have some counter-protestors standing at attention next to them with silly props – like toilet plungers held like rifles or pink flamingos….

    As long as the flamingo-wielders have called the press AND the police in advance. While they’re well within their rights to counter-protest, we don’t want them “dead right”

  200. 200.

    Jeffro

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:

    Didn’t a commenter who lives there mention earlier today that NoVa is a Dem stronghold? That can only be good news.

    NoVA is indeed what makes VA blue…it’s kind of like the relationship between NYC and the rest of the upstate NY.

    Anyway, it will be the cherry on the electoral sundae, so to speak, if crazy-ass Barbara Comstock loses her House seat in this wave. She’s not my congressperson, thank god, but she sure is a special breed of hateful and needs to go.

  201. 201.

    Elie

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I believe that we need to start asking Republicans to begin appealing to their constituents about the horrible effects and destructiveness of violence. There are now enough of them to have said that they will not support Trump. They need to go further and exhort his followers to avoid violence — esp as he is seeming to ramp up the threat in his rallies. We cannot afford to let it pass… they may be a minority but they are widely distributed and in some places, can be extremely dangerous. I live in rural WA state surrounded by Trump signs. I am a black woman married to a Jew. I think about it, believe me. I have no idea what people like me think in the south or Midwest… where it might be even worse. I am not a twenty something. We don’t own guns… We moved here for its beauty and peace… we are near the water and are surrounded by birds and wildlife…

  204. 204.

    Jeffro

    @raven:

    Shit, I was driving from Lynchburg to Roanoke and stopped at a pop up flea market. Dude had AK’s and AR 15’s and was selling them openly. It was totally legal.

    I hear you. Gun show sales (even such as these) are one thing; the right to openly parade around with a firearm in public is another, in my book. As one officer recently put it to me, “I saw a guy doing that (openly carrying) at Target while shopping with my family…I have no idea what his level of training has been, much less what his day has been like. Scared me quite a bit.”

  206. 206.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    @OldDave:

    Been there more than once, and a root canal is definitely better than an abscessed tooth. For one thing, you’re numbed up. If you’re especially lucky, you’re also high on nitrous oxide and in full NFTG mode. Hope all goes well for you.

  207. 207.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jl: The same reason that the Izz al Din al Qassim Brigades are called Hamas’s militia – that’s what they call themselves.

  209. 209.

    Jeffro

    @jl: I think that’s what they call themselves. It would be nice if the FBI & police, and the media, could go with “terrorists”, agreed.

  210. 210.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Mike J: Anyone down for a PDX meetup next week? How many BJers are there? Suggested topics include Trump Sucks, Hillary Rocks, and Growing Up in Memphis.

  212. 212.

    Jeffro

    @raven: I’m sorry – my post was poorly worded. I had been talking about open carry and you mentioned a roadside gun sale, both of which are…deplorable. I should have said “while these are kinda different things, a) they’re part of the same problem and b) I agree with you. I don’t like any of it either.

  214. 214.

    Jeffro

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks Adam! I thought perhaps the BJ hive mind had become self-aware and decided to block some of my posts, which would indicate it had achieved a fair degree of intelligence, actually.

  216. 216.

    Elie

    @OldDave:

    Like Siobhan says, they will numb you up and give you some gas. Also, the root canal removes the nerve from the center of the tooth, making pain a less likely post treatment problem. Also, tooth abscesses don’t always stay put so its important to treat them… That site can seed bacteria into your system that can end up all kinds of places you don’t want including your heart valves and or spine and other places. Oral health is very important as new research evidence points out…

  217. 217.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Jeffro: No, that wasn’t it. Something in the program seems to occasionally just send some comments some times right into the trash folders. There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.

  219. 219.

    sukabi

    @OldDave: seriously, they’re comparing an acting role with how drumpf talks and act in his real life?

    That takes a special kind of delusion, dissociation….not sure what the correct term would be.

  220. 220.

    Ernest Pikeman

    @Doug R: Open Office has been basically stalled and dead for years, LibreOffice is the fork that is being actively developed. FYI, HTH.

  224. 224.

    OldDave

    @Elie:

    they will numb you up and give you some gas

    With this practice, I don’t remember gas being offered, but then, I’ve never asked. This won’t be my first root canal, so I’m aware of the benefits. I’m hoping the Clindamycin will knock the infection down a bit and ease the “discomfort”.

    Thanks again to everyone for their advice and good wishes.

  228. 228.

    jl

    @Adam L Silverman:

    ” The same reason that the Izz al Din al Qassim Brigades are called Hamas’s militia – that’s what they call themselves. ”

    But they are part of a well organized political and military movement. The US yahoos seem to be some guys who got it into their heads that it would be a good idea to go out and shoot people and blow stuff up.

    Next time I get cranky and bitter over whatever and decide to go out and wreck stuff, I’ll call myself US Army Domestic Auxiliary Force. At least the newspaper photo of the frog march will get a dignified caption.

  230. 230.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Mike J: D’oh! Pardon my geographic confusion. I was in the SEA (I know) a few weeks ago, but it turned into just a one night stand as I had urgent business to attend to in Las Vegas. Seriously. And in addition to totally-not-union-busting, I got in a round of golf and several cocktails with an old friend. In Vegas, not Seattle. Though I did hike around Cougar Mountain that Sunday afternoon. Was expecting to see SiubhanDuinne there–mrowr!

  231. 231.

    WaterGirl

    @Adam L Silverman: Holy shit. No, make that lying sack of shit. Who raised these people? I mean, seriously, my mom can’t have been the only person who taught her kids that it’s not okay to lie, cheat and steal.

  232. 232.

    Adam L Silverman

    @jl: I’m not sure the Izz al Din al Qassim Brigades are really organized like that. In fact I am sure they’re not organized like that. Are they better organized than Ya’ll Qaeda and Snack Team 6? Definitely. Are they an army? No.

    Actually the Girl Scouts of America are the US Army Domestic Auxiliary Force. That’s why they wear green uniforms. And also why I always buy cookies – they have a decent budgetary and funding system as America’s last line of defense in case everything else goes wrong!//

  236. 236.

    Betsy

    @rikyrah: That ruling by the superior court judge in North Carolina about those particular counties could be the single most influential event (apart from anything the candidates themselves or their campaigns say or do) of this election. Those hurricane-affected 36 counties in the coastal plain have the highest proportions of minority voters in the state.

  239. 239.

    jl

    @Adam L Silverman: Glad you mentioned that, you liberal. I know from personal experience that Girl Scout cookies are better in SF Bay Area than whoever makes them in CA Central Valley. Obviously some sinister global conspiracy of wealthy liberals to oppress real Americans. Connection to Carlos Slim too obvious to merit explanation.

  242. 242.

    Steve in the ATL

    @redshirt: Played from the blues at Angel Park, NW of the Strip. Three pars, no birdies, and too many three putts–so, the usual for me! Also, may not have been entirely sober through the whole round….

  243. 243.

    Elie

    @OldDave:

    Well, I am definitely an advocate for gas if available. My dentist also has headphones and music which makes what is happening in my mouth irrelevant. As you say, not necessary though.

    Clindamycin should kill about anything. Pretty serious antibiotic. Take probiotics and eat yogurt. Keep the probiotics up even after you stop the clindamycin for at least a week or two. it will effectively kill off the good bacteria in your gut so you have to replace them… take all of the antibiotic as directed — please — but its gonna rock your intestines for a while.

  244. 244.

    redshirt

    @Steve in the ATL: Drinking and still a 96! My best is a 99 and I am stone cold serious at all times.

    I did get my first birdie ever a month ago at a legit difficult course (Sunday River). Weird par 3 though so mentally I’m taking an asterisk. Distance of only a 100 yards, but with a 70 yard drop. The green was small, surrounded by traps to three sides and scrub in the front. So it’s basically hit the green and do well, or you’re f’d.

    I hit within 10 feet of the pin and sank the putt for the birdie. So sweet. Since no one was on the course we all took an extra round and I hit my next shot within 5 feet of the hole for an almost hole in one. It was magic I can’t replicate.

  245. 245.

    Elie

    So, is it just me, but who thinks Snowden, now living in Russia, had nothing to do with Russia’s ability to hack into the Democrats or wherever they want to. Is he still the innocent patriot in everyone’s eyes?

  247. 247.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Elie: I never thought he was a patriot and I’ve been feeling smug about that ever since he fled to China then Russia. Fuck that guy.

  249. 249.

    Elie

    @redshirt:

    Uh-huh. DEFINITELY possible.

    Remember his account of arriving in Russia with “several lap tops” worth of data, etc. I am just sure that the Russians let him keep those.

    Heard he wants to come back to the US. I wish him a long long life. In Russia.

  251. 251.

    Elie

    Adam — what is your take on Snowden and the effects he may be still having (in 25 words or less — I know not a simple answer but still gotta ask)

  252. 252.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Elie: As an American, the ongoing conversation about classification and surveillance are important to have within a functioning democracy. As a national security professional, his fleeing to where he has was incredibly bad. That’s all I can say regardless of length.

  253. 253.

    laura

    @BillinGlendaleCA: yep, it’s true. It underwent some serious renovatiins – mostly fire safety related. and right on the corner of H & 15th. And theyve hosted some large family gatherings. That’s one happily married couple and you can run into them all over town.

  254. 254.

    Elie

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Thanks. Sounds fair and balanced.

    Ok, so whats for snacks? I am currently sipping a nice CA Shiraz and having some nice pecorino on little crackers with quince paste. Yummy evening snack…

  256. 256.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Elie: Its not meant to be. What I’d like to say I can’t.

    I have to do a cupcake post over the weekend. I made dark chocolate cupcakes with a dark chocolate mousse frosting for someone for their Yom Kippur breakfast. I have pictures.

  259. 259.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: I’m allowed, but I’m also subject to the same rules, regulations, and laws that Snowden decided he had to break. I hope that makes sense.

  262. 262.

    Elie

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Makes perfect sense to me….

    I just purchased a quarter of a goat. To me, goat is one of the most delicious meats you can have — rich and interesting — a little like lamb but its own thing. Love it in stews — and roasted. A friend just taught me how to prepare it fairly recently…

  263. 263.

    Elie

    Whenever things get complex, I like to think about food. That means, recipes for food that I like to eat — especially complicated food with lots of nuance and details. I enjoy cooking for people who enjoy good food and like to eat. I really hate picky eaters who are always dieting. I like to eat it and talk about it.. especially when things are happening and life is interesting…

  265. 265.

    aidian

    @BillinGlendaleCA: The governor, at least in his first term, rented a two bedroom apartment on the second floor of commercial building (above the downtown Sacto PF Changs IIRC) which was an easy walk to the state capitol. I really love him for that (his policies largely suck, but things like that make it hard to hate him).

    Brown’s modest little apartment (it’s a decent building, nice cribs, and a bit pricy, but nothing outrageous) stood in stark contrast to his predecessor Herr Schwarzenegger, who rented out the penthouse of the (IIRC) downtown Hilton for the entire eight years. I used to see his CHP security detail lurking around the ground floor, and he’d often be driven to Sacto Executive Airport and fly via private jet to socal on Friday afternoon. His commute to LA took less time than one of my coworkers did to the suburbs.

  269. 269.

    Pinacacci

    @Elie: Late to a dead thread but just wanted to remind so no money is wasted: Don’t take the probiotics until you are finished with the antibiotics. The antibiotics will kill the probiotics as well as whatever they were prescribed for.

  270. 270.

    laura

    @Mary G: nope, that Jen Fearing’s Statement. Shes a lobbyist and took Sutter on the road to stump for Prop 30. The BEE editorial board wrote the editorial.
    No one, and I mean no one, doesn’t love Sutter Brown.

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