Courtesy respected commentor The Mighty Trowel. Trump has many appetites, but he’s a germaphobe who eats pizza with a knife and fork, so poor frightened kitty would have a chance to escape while Lord Smallgloves Shitgibbon went looking for utensils.
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Apart from counting down the days, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Ruckus
Apart from counting down the days, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
Trying not to let the election bullshit get on my nerves. Doing so so at it.
I so want this election to be over so we can get on with it. We have a country to liberalize. There is lots of work to be done and an opposition made up of morons and idiots. It won’t be easy to give them what they need because that’s not what they want.
HinTN
May the Trowel be soon back in Oz, and thanks for that pleasant image!
JPL
Pizza is good.
Warren Terra
GOP: grab our p***y
HinTN
Glad as can be to be home from a week of driving vast distances in the western US. It’s a beautiful place and most of the people are very nice but there ain’t no place like home, even if it is irredeemibly RED for the nonce.
Baud
@Ruckus: Same here.
slag
Yeah, but is having Donald Trump eat you with a knife and fork really a much better option?
Anoniminous
NBC/WSJ has a poll out with Clinton ahead by 11 points in all, +20 points with women and only down 3 points with men. If it holds it is an improvement of 9 points with women and 4 points with men over Obama in 2012.
ABC/WaPo also has a poll out giving Clinton a 4 point lead. They didn’t break-out the demographics but they do claim their polling says the tape has had no effect among women voters which I find highly unlikely.
Roger Moore
@JPL:
Which is why my agenda for the evening involves baking some. I’m going Hawaiian style this week.
The Golux
Hoping that after this evening, the ghost of Steve Goodman is another game closer to being freed from limbo.
hovercraft
Another good thing from the land down under:
Major Major Major Major
A conservative ‘independent’ Dem-ish friend (would probably vote for Kasich cuz “business”) was in a Facebook fight with a “Hillary and trump are both garbage but at least trump is talking about how universities shouldn’t have safe spaces” guy. I accidentally saw it so now my afternoon is ruined.
jokerstotheright
Orange County GOP headquarters has been firebombed and vandalized. This is in Hillsborough, in a county that border Raleigh,Durham and Chapel Hill. I live in Durham. No details yet. Horrible. Things are tense and everyone needs to calm the fuck down, myself included. http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/crime/article108631592.html
Prescott Cactus
Greet incoming canvassers. Hope for zero scary Trump stories. Chicken legs and wings. Preparing for a Blue AZ.
ETA: Re-open Walden
Major Major Major Major
@Anoniminous: I think ABC/WaPo is one of the ones with a 2004 turnout model so that makes sense. In a base election a not very surprising recording wouldn’t change much.
gene108
I would say it is unseasonably warm, in the Northeast, but I think seasons are
becoming more of a guideline than an actual thing.
Went to NYC to visit my bro. Nephew turns 12 tomorrow.
When he was born it was chilly. I had a sweatshirt and jacket to stay warm.
His first and second birthday we had a picnic type party in Central Park.
If you was chilly and blustery. One of those b’days, I wore just a windbreaker and I was cold.
But this warm October does not seem out-of-place compared to the previous weeks.
Geoduck
During the night some moron who is Not Helping threw a firebomb into a GOP campaign office in North Carolina.
Les Bonnes Femmes
Everybody should watch Mascots on Netflix. The Wife, I, and a dear friend completely lost it during Jack the Plumber.
MomSense
@Major Major Major Major:
It sucks when you realize your friend might be a fascist. Ugh. This election has certainly been revealing.
How is your kitty cat?
germy
JPL
@Major Major Major Major: On one of the morning shows, it was mentioned that they are assuming a higher new registration for Trump.
Major Major Major Major
@MomSense: my friend isn’t the fascist he just has an MBA. It’s HIS friend saying the safe spaces BS.
My cat is good! Don’t know what he’s been going on about lately though.
Anoniminous
@Major Major Major Major:
The last time they used their Way Back Machine (to 2008) and had whites at 74% of all voters. The latest results are entirely consistent with them continuing to use their Way Back Machine but I couldn’t find the internals and so didn’t want to levy the charge.
Humdog
@Major Major Major Major: Someone is wrong on the Internet! I know what you mean, but you know you are being silly giving some rando that much power over your day.
Anoniminous
@JPL:
That is right up there with inspecting sheep’s livers or interpreting the honking of geese as a predictive methodology.
JPL
@Anoniminous: Even with that model, she’s winning.
Tom D
First good rain of the season here in the Sierra Nevada. First fire in the wood stove too. Four years of drought-assisted bugs have killed nearly all of my Ponderosas so I’m hoping this is the beginning of a really fierce winter.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@HinTN:
She was flying back to Oz from Dubai, yes? I have no idea how long a flight that is,, but hope it’s a safe and completely uneventful journey for her.
jk
For any masochists out there, Maureen Dowd is the guest on tonight’s edition of C-SPAN’s Q & A where she’ll be discussing her new book The Year of Voting Dangerously. The shows airs from 8 pm – 9 pm with a rebroadcast at 11 pm.
Major Major Major Major
@Humdog: I’m better. I just came here to complain.
redshirt
@Roger Moore: I’m a veggie, but my favorite pizza is a variation on the Hawaiian: Pineapple (preferably grilled beforehand), jalapeno, onion, and feta cheese. Drizzled with honey.
TS
Late to the party – reading the last thread as I was
The sooner this election is done the sooner sanity will return to these United States. The media is 80% of the problem
Little hands, motor mouth says the elections are “rigged”. What does the media talk about for days
– are the elections rigged?
– it’s possible the elections are rigged
– have previous elections been rigged?
– who rigs elections?
What did they talk about in 2000 when the chads were falling all over the place
– No no – not a problem
– just the way it is
– No state would rig its elections
Just like when little hands big idiot says Hillary is ill, or says Hillary should be in jail or we need drug test or any other stupidity – the media takes him seriously and discusses his off the planet lies of stupidity.
I’ll give the GOP the other 20% – they nominated him.
p.a.
Werebear not in this thread so a cat question to the general commentariat. Feral uses my yard as a highway to the woodlots behind. Keeps leaving me dead fieldmice in the middle of my backyard cement ‘deck’. (I’m assuming it’s the feral and not that my yard has some religious significance to field mice.) Mouse #5 this morning. Why me?
redshirt
@gene108: I’m striving not to turn my heat on till mid November at the earliest. Which is crazy compared to how I used to remember Octobers. Cold!
hovercraft
@jk:
I’m willing to watch the Sunday shows to get a feel for what the village idiots are going to be parroting over the next few days, and forming conventional wisdom. I will not, and would never subject myself to and hour of Maureen Dowd’s pearls of wisdom, anymore than I would for David Brooks.
PaulB
Apparently, O’Keefe has a new scam video coming out tomorrow. He and Drudge have been tweeting about it.
Ruckus
Just found out on FB that a friend from HS just passed away. He was always an inspiration to me, over sized in both body and mind. He will be missed by his family and his friends. RIP Manuel. I saw him 2 yrs ago at our class 65th birthday celebration. He looked and was very little different from decades ago. And that’s a testament to who he was then that he didn’t have to do a lot of growing up in the intervening decades.
Some people you feel bad that they are gone, this feels horrible.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@gene108:
Having spent many Octobers and early Novembers in NY State, Michigan, and Ontario (and having grown up in the western suburbs of Chicago), I can attest that the weather might be scarves-boots-and-mittens cold, or it might be why-did-I-pack-away-my-tank-tops-and-shorts-so-early? hot, or it might be I’ll-be-fine-with-a-sleeveless-dress-and-a-parka-for-later typical autumn day. I remember one year, back in the mid-’70s, when I left Flint, MI in 80°-something weather to spend a few days in Hamilton, ON and drove back in a blinding snow blizzard. (It was to celebrate my aunt’s birthday, so would have been days immediately surrounding October 18th.)
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@Ruckus:
I’m so sorry, Ruckus. I’ve been to my own HS 25th, 40th, and 50th reunions, and every time I both dread seeing and am shocked by the “In Memoriam” lists they provide. It’s tougher to see your contemporaries go than just about any other cohort — really shoves your own mortality in your face. Sympathies.
Anoniminous
@JPL:
True
ABC irritates me because they are so obviously mucking with the methodology to get the narrative they want, i.e., HORSE! RACE!, to accumulate clicks and eyeballs.
Prescott Cactus
@p.a.: You are Thor, Controller of the Woodlot Gateway. You must be rewarded !
@redshirt: Electric blankets can buy you a month. Sleep warm !
Trentrunner
Trump just tweeted:
He’s so UNQUALIFIED to be anywhere near power. No one knows who did this yet. Already blaming Hillary.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: My condolences.
The Lodger
@redshirt: in my household, that combination would be called the Hell No. Especially with honey.
MomSense
@Major Major Major Major:
Oh phew. I’m trying to avoid all Trumpers.
PsiFighter37
Good weekend. I have a busy start to the week coming up, but that too shall pass.
I am stoked to see Clinton incite Cheeto to go nuclear on Wednesday night. The guy is in meltdown stage right now.
PF37 +6
MomSense
@Ruckus:
Sorry to hear your news. My condolences to you.
JPL
@Ruckus: Hugs! That is so sad.
The Lodger
@Trentrunner: Trump didn’t blame radical Islamic terrorists?
Major Major Major Major
@Ruckus: Sounds like a good dude. Condolences.
Baud
@Ruckus: I’m sorry, man.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@Ruckus: Very sorry for your loss.
redshirt
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I’m always shocked at first reunions where most people generally look the same, except maybe fatter, but there’s a few folks who look 20 years older than everyone else. I assume it’s poor lifestyle choices, but I can’t be sure. Some people look old when they’re not, and some people don’t look that old till they hit 80.
redshirt
@Prescott Cactus: Now that you mention it, I’ve never used an electric blanket nor given it any thought. Strange.
They seem like they might be unsafe.
The Lodger
@Ruckus: Sorry to hear it. He sounds like one of the good guys.
Aardvark Cheeselog
Some therapy
Prescott Cactus
@Ruckus: It doesn’t matter how often you see someone, it’s how close they are to your heart. Know that if you feel horrible now, that with some time, you will be able to remember all the splendor and wonder Manual shared with those close to him. Unexpected deaths of friends our own age always seem to touch upon our own mortality too. I wish you comfort in these tough times, Ruckus.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
A nearby technical college has a two-year photography degree program. The continuing ed program I finished earlier this year was good for what it was, but I think it just gave me a better idea of how little I actually know, so I enrolled in the degree program, which I start in January.
Now I just have to relearn algebra in time for the placement exam in a couple of weeks. Haven’t studied the subject since I was 12 — I get the feeling the test results will leave me minoring in photography and majoring in remedial math. Gotta hit the books, and by “books” I mean Algebra for Dummies and every tutoring website I can find. Yay me. Also: ugh.
hovercraft
From Fareed Zakaria
Starfish
@Geoduck: During election season, there are stupid people.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@jk:
Never have I been gladder to not own a TV.
hovercraft
@Trentrunner:
He is always right, and he never has to wait for the facts, he just ‘knows’ what happened.
hovercraft
@Ruckus:
So sorry for your loss.
redshirt
@hovercraft: It’s not your quote, but when does Clinton lie? I don’t see it.
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@p.a.:
In my father’s mouse are many mansions.
p.a.
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: here’s a good mathisch site
Chyron HR
@Trentrunner:
And, you know, the animals. Subhumans. Wink, wink.
JMG
@redshirt: Reunion last night of people who worked with me at the old Boston Phoenix (yay!) in the 70s and 80s. Everyone looked pretty much the same (I recognized them all), with one exception, the husband of the hostess, who’d put on 20 pounds since I last saw him, which was only like five or six years ago. One person, who I admit wears glasses, congratulated me on looking slim! (in reality, not slim, but I was very heavy when I first worked there, which may be the me he remembers).
p.a.
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: ;-)
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@p.a.: Wow — very comprehensive. Thanks!
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@redshirt:
In my class (1960) we had one couple who were high school sweethearts. In the mock elections, she was voted “sweetest girl” (she was captain of the cheerleading squad) and he was “cutest guy” (captain of the football team). Naturally, the two of them were Homecoming King and Queen. Just too stereotypical for words.
Well, they got married within a year or so of h.s. graduation, have many kids and grandkids, have never moved from the area, and are to all indications still very happily married after close to 55 years. You never know.
EDIT: P.S., they look pretty much the same as they did in 1960.
scav
@PaulB: If O’Keefe and Dudge’s latest prescious was was really something shocking, they wouldn’t have to upsell it in advance, it would draw eyeballs on its own merits.
beth
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: My daughter was really helped by the Khan Academy videos. Seeing the problem worked out really clicked it for her.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
From the NY Times
Likewise, The Washington Post Fact-Checker has awarded its worst ranking, Four Pinocchios, to 16 percent of Clinton’s statements that it checked and to 64 percent of Trump’s.
“Essentially, Clinton is in the norm for a typical politician,” says Glenn Kessler, who runs Fact-Checker, while Trump “is just off the charts. There’s never been anyone like him, at least in the six years I have been doing this.”
redshirt
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: Wow. The Golden Couple.
It was mostly rednecks I saw completely physically degrade, thus my assumption it’s lifestyle related.
sukabi
@Starfish: that was my first reaction as well…what are the political leanings of most of the folks that would do something like that in the last decade?
jk
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
@hovercraft:
In spite of my disappointment with C-SPAN for their decision to allow someone as breathtakingly dumb as Maureen Dowd to pollute the airwaves for an entire hour, I’m still grateful for C-SPAN’s existence and especially BookTV.
A few years back, I was amused to see Charlie Rose get bent of shape when David Denby called out Maureen Dowd for her insufferable snarkiness.
@hovercraft:
Saw that interview this morning. Maher was great.
redshirt
@hovercraft: So the Sarajevo thing is all they have?
I hated/mocked her for it in 2008; don’t give a damn now.
Lizzy L
@Ruckus: I’m so sorry.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: To this day I see people cite ‘sniper fire’ as a reason she’s untrustworthy. Usually people on the left.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@beth: Thanks. I downloaded the app a while back, but haven’t had a chance to see what it offers. I’ll look at it tonight.
Felonius Monk
@Ruckus: Condolences, Ruckus. Losing friends, even ones you don’t see often, is never easy. Remember the good times. Peace.
Schlemazel
@Geoduck:
Was there a backwards “B” on its face, like it had been pained on in a mirror?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Schlemazel: It was a backwards “H”, but they’re in luck this time.
debbie
@hovercraft:
Now that should be the next ad: “One misstatement every five minutes.”
hovercraft
@redshirt:
These are the six statements she has been given Pant on Fire ratings.
From Politifact
Click on the link to see all her mostly false claims, mostly true, and true. Same for the ferrethead.
Trentrunner
@Geoduck: Reichstag Fire Redux
SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch
@redshirt:
Yeah, they really were/are. Haven’t seen them since 2010; I assume they are both still alive but honestly have no idea. I never travelled in their exalted circles. I was a nerdy pseudo-intellectual who took pleasure in scorning their cheerleadery-football quarterbacky super-popular status. So much better to dress in black turtlenecks and listen to folk music. But I give them credit for living the life they aspired to, and I don’t sneer at them nearly as much as I did a half-century and more ago.
jk
@hovercraft:
This reminds me of Daniel Moynihan’s often cited observation that everyone is entitled to their own opinions but they’re not entitled to their own facts. It’s mind boggling to think that despite the avalanche of lies Trump has told, he’ll still receive millions of votes and may win anywhere between 12 – 20 states.
germy
Aleta
@p.a.: Has sized you up as unable to properly feed yourself.
Seriously, from my cats it seems to be a way of acknowledging connection. I think you make him happy and he feels happy in your yard.
zach
@Trentrunner: “@Geoduck: Reichstag Fire Redux”
It’s equally as dumb to speculate about this being a false flag operation as it is to reflexively blame Clinton supporters. There’s precedent for both. Let the police do their job.
Mai.naem.mobile
The NC thing sounds like the Reichstag fire thing and what is in the Trumpistas’ toolbox. The graffiti vandalism though might be Democratic because it was spelled correctly.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus:
Likewise. And per your question the other night, you are not a complete snarling jackal as you didn’t go the full lawyer, but you are, like efgoldman and Roger Moore, too tainted by the legal profession to be a part of polite society. you exist in a curious and dark in-between land, no longer accepted by mentally stable people but still able to appear in court. Je suis desolee!
Ruviana
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: Khan Academy. Free and you can start at any level you like.
ETA
Or what @Beth said.
TS
@Trentrunner:
I’d be inclined to think someone who supports the GOP nominee was responsible
TS
@zach:
Of course – we have to be above such things – which has got the GOP taking over the states and congress because people believe what they are saying. Spread it far and wide.
redshirt
I can’t wait for this election to be over, Hillary elected, Democratic Senate and House. I’ll breathe super easy and mentally unwind.
jk
@germy:
Neither Mike Pence nor any of Trump’s supporters/surrogates can speak for him. Chris Wallace needs to ask Trump directly at the final debate if he will accept the will of the voters on Election Day.
Matt McIrvin
*sigh* Lefty Facebook friends-of-friends now passing around an article by John Pilger about how Hillary Clinton is more dangerous than Donald Trump. We’re all being wonderfully counterintuitive here.
Major Major Major Major
Jesus, why are people voting for Portman
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@TS:
To some extent they are a symptom. Note the demographics of the great majority of news media figures in positions of both hard and soft power.
@germy:
They’re an amazing pair. Trump is too stupid to stick to talking points, and Pence is too stupid to do anything but repeat them.
rikyrah
that’s a cute pic of the kitty
jk
Trump lunatic supporter Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke:
“It’s incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time.”
rikyrah
Anybody going to watch The Rocky Horror Picture Show event on Fox?
satby
@p.a.: He’s leaving you tokens of friendship. Do you leave him food?
satby
@Ruckus: So sorry for your loss. The good ones always go too soon, no matter how long they’re with us.
p.a.
@satby: he may consider the birds at my feeders an offering. Water also.
sukabi
@p.a.: he’s bringing you gifts, proving his ability to provide tribute.
And he’s getting ready to adopt you.
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
He died of pancreatic cancer. When you get that it’s an almost certain death penalty. He was 68 yrs old had a wonderful family and grandkids. There aren’t many people that I remember as fondly as him, he had a grace about him as a teenager that was palpable. He never lost it.
So once again I state firmly and loudly FUCK FUCKING CANCER.
sukabi
@Trentrunner: some people say the folks that did it will be the only folks drumpf has paid in quite a while…
JR in WV
@p.a.:
Just lucky. The mice are thanks for being friendly, or at least not hostile, to the cat. Perhaps, given the good start, you could tame the feral, creating a pleasant companion for chilly nights.
One of our cats was poorly socialized, an alley cat from downtown West Side. After we let him out of the cardboard box he came in, he ran into the basement and disappeared for – well, weeks. We knew he was down there, as the food was going away, and the litter box was being used, although that could have been the existing cats in the family.
While he was AWOL in our basement we named him Harvey, for the invisible poobah giant rabbit in the Jimmy Stewart movie. He was always a skinny orange kitty, but became very affectionate over the years. I’m so glad he had a happy life with us.
Steeplejack (phone)
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
Somehow that sounds like a Twilight Zone episode, but I can’t figure out exactly how.
sukabi
@Major Major Major Major: that was one of the stupidest fucking lies from someone who knows better. That’s why it galled people. It was republican level stupid.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
Thanks man. I think.
JR in WV
@hovercraft:
“Click on the link to see all her mostly false claims, mostly true, and true. Same for the ferrethead. ”
Come on, man! You know the Innertubes doesn’t have room in it for Trump’s lies! Come on!
Ruckus
@SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch:
His 50th was this year. He just made the reunion. Mine is next yr, I’m hoping to be there. But one never knows what’s in store for tomorrow.
Prescott Cactus
@redshirt: Started using e-blankets as a kid. Sunbeam Imperial is brand we use now. They are good for a couple of years.
If you have any fear, just preheat your blankets & sheets and shut it off when you get into bed.
Miss Bianca
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck:
I love this. This is as cogent an explanation of the two types of idiots as ever I’ve seen: the idiot who knows everything and the idiot who knows nothing.
Original Lee
@redshirt: We use Pendleton Eco-Wise wool blankets. Original Spouse was skeptical at first because he grew up using electric blankets, but after about a week he was in love. They’re a good weight and they really hold the heat in well. They are machine-washable, which is awesome for a wool blanket. I’ve been washing ours today in preparation for going on the beds soon. They are kind of pricey, but OTOH they are really durable. We’ve had these for almost 10 years now and they still look like new. /advertising
SgrAstar
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: Karen, there’s a good workbook called “Forgotten Algebra.” I love workbooks! The same company has an excellent calculus workbook as well. Emphasis on problem solving, with many problems and solutions in the back. Good luck!