Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke had some interesting thoughts he decided to share on social media yesterday:
It's incredible that our institutions of gov, WH, Congress, DOJ, and big media are corrupt & all we do is bitch. Pitchforks and torches time pic.twitter.com/8G5G0daGVN
— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) October 15, 2016
You remember Sheriff Clark, the (sheriffs aren’t actualyl mentioned in the) Constitutional Sheriff and Peace Officers Association Law Enforcer of the Year Award Winner? You know, the tough guy that tried to call in the Wisconsin National Guard about six weeks ago even though he was not the law enforcement officer in charge of what was happening in Milwaukee with demonstrations, protests, and riots? The actual officer in charge would be Milwaukee Chief of Police Edward A Flynn. And he had this to say about Sheriff Clarke:
“Nobody has got more to say about law enforcement and less to do with it,” Flynn said of Clarke, calling him a self-serving man who seeks “celebrity.”
Sheriff Clarke would be the tough guy that had an inmate die of thirst in the jail*, the oversight of which is one of his few actual primary responsibilities, because his subordinates specifically and purposely cut off water to the inmates cell – an inmate who was mentally ill.
So what is it that Sheriff Clarke actually does/is actually supposed to be doing? His actual jurisdiction is running the jail, providing security at municipal facilities, and patrolling the part of the interstate as it runs through Milwaukee County.
“By statute and by practice, the sheriff plays only a limited role as a traditional law enforcement agency,” Abele said in his budget remarks to the County Board on Sept. 29, 2011.
“For example, in 2009 the sheriff reported only 12 crimes to the FBI, compared to 41,000 for the City of Milwaukee and 3,200 for West Allis, and even 242 for the UWM Police Department.”
There are no unincorporated areas in Milwaukee County and each of these incorporated municipalities have their own police departments.
Last year, the administration of Milwaukee County ExecutiveChris Abele released some eyebrow-raising statistics on the Sheriff’s Department, noting that:
- Milwaukee is the state’s only county with no unincorporated area, meaning there are municipal police patrolling every part of the county. Besides Milwaukee, there are 18 suburban police forces in action.
- In 2009, the sheriff reported only 19 crimes to the FBI, compared to 41,375 for the Milwaukee police, 3,288 for West Allis police, 1,908 for Wauwatosa and even 242 for the UW-Milwaukee police. That’s right, the UWM campus police handled 12 times more criminals than the Sheriff’s Department.
- Just 10 percent of Sheriff David Clarke’s requested property tax levy was for police services. As Abele put it, “the sheriff plays only a limited role as a traditional law enforcement agency.”
The deputy sheriffs staff the Milwaukee County Jail and County Correctional Facility South (formerly House of Correction), handle the courthouse’s system of bailiffs, and patrol the freeways.
Earlier in the day he was complaining about how long it took his NICS check to go through so he could buy a new AR pattern rifle. Insinuating that this is not how law enforcement should be treated (because, you know, they’re not just citizens too or something).
Had INSTANT background check today to pick up new AR-15. ATF delayed 6 days for a cop. Third check this year. Last 2 took 3 days. Nice.
— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) October 15, 2016
In case anyone was wondering, NICS checks for gun purchases are done by the FBI – law enforcement genius!
Anyone else get in the game yesterday? Why yes, yes indeed. Senator Jefferson Beauregard Sessions, III.
.@SenatorSessions at Trump NH rally: "They are attempting to rig this election." https://t.co/e0QZI8OyI0
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) October 15, 2016
You know, this Senator Sessions.
And thus an uncomfortable light shined once again on a man plainly hidden in the ranks of the Senate for a dozen years now. A man known to be one of the most consistently conservative legislators on Capitol Hill. A man noted for hisobstructionist tendencies. A man with a chequered history linked to America’s racist past. A man, who has been, arguably, waiting for this moment for the last two decades.
Sessions’s first national exposure was, surely, mortifying for the would-be federal judge. It was 1986, and the then-39-year-old US attorney for the Southern District of Alabama was a Reagan nominee to the federal bench. Sessions had good reason to believe he’d be rubber-stamped through to a judgeship – some 200 of the Gipper’s judges had already been heavily sprinkled throughout the federal judicial system. But Sessions stopped up the works. The young lawyer became only the second man in 50 years to be rejected by the Senate judiciary committee.
The reasons for his rejection, as I explained in this 2002 New Republic story had to do with a soupy mix of dubious and arguably racist moves, comments and motivations on the part of the Alabama native that led senator Ted Kennedy to announce it was “inconceivable … that a person of this attitude is qualified to be a US attorney, let alone a United States federal judge.”
And finally a quick update by addition (unintentional omission) from Friday’s Today in Hashtag Violence, Terrorism, and Leaderless Resistance post:
Two Texas men, working in California, have been charged in a brutal assault and battery on Maan Singh Khalsa – a Sikh-American. They first threw something at his car, then followed him and at a stop light pulled him from his car, beat him, ripped off his dastar (turban), and cut/pulled out some of his hair. The attackers have had the hate crime additions added to the charges they face.
Just 24 days (inclusive of today) to go until the election. Stay frosty!
* The Journal-Sentinel did a deep dive into deaths in the Milwaukee County Jail from 2008 to 2014,
WereBear
You can tell the ones too deluded to understand this is all theater for the rubes.
Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)
Now tell us how you really feel about Sheriff Clarke, Adam.
BTW, what’s up with the Stetson and 5 stars on his collar that he wears?
Trentrunner
Oh, goodie! The New Yorker has ANOTHER profile of Trump’s ultra-bigoted voters.
I. don’t. fucking. care.
You will continue to twist in your own intellectual and economic poverty until you get out of your fucking epistemological bubble and engage with reality.
Until then, keeping fucking those chickens, you bigoted fucking fucks.
Brachiator
If I am reading this correctly, it suggests that a chunk of money is unaccounted for.
Is this door elected? How many people voted for him.
Appears that he has a lot of free time to be a publicity hound.
ThresherK
Hey, why wasn’t this fellow sent to find Osama Bin Laden 12 years ago?
After all, if you want to catch a warlord, you gotta think like a warlord.
amk
wonder what clarke, sr, thinks of his progeny.
Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)
@Brachiator: ‘Police Services’ might be for patrolling the freeways. Jail and other legit expenses might be under a different category.
Iowa Old Lady
Mr IOL is watching recorded Sunday shows. Todd’s panel are talking about “everything coming out” and if it had come out during the primary, maybe it would have cost her the primary. Honest to god, I have no idea what has “come out.”
RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac
Sherriff Clarke would be strung up because of the color of his skin. His pro-Trumpian bellowings wouldn’t save him if the Trumpkins had their way.
Brachiator
@Trentrunner:
Problem is they are not going away. And they are not simplistically mindless bigots. As early in the GOP primary as March, the Atlantic had a clear idea of who these people were. From an article by Derek Thompson. Summary of Trump Voters
The GOP will continue to try to exploit this group. The Democrats should at least offer a lifeline out of the bucket of Deplorables.
Bruuuuce
Gee, I wonder if sedition and inciting rebellion (and/or inciting violence) are chargeable offenses.
Nah. IOKIYAR,
::washes mouth out with soap for saying that even with sarcasm dripping off of it::
CaseyL
@Trentrunner:
Oh, that’s good. May I steal it? Put it up on FB?
sigaba
@Iowa Old Lady: You know, LEAKS have come out. From WIKILEAKS!
What’s in those leaks? Leaks don’t contain information, silly, they’re leaks and they’re bad for Hillary.
Naturally the biggest disclosure from the GS speeches is Hillary’s belief that the national political press is too easily “distracted by trivia.”
redshirt
Hopefully, we’re burning this out of our system.
Pessimistically, this is just building for even bigger conflicts.
Lizzy L
The assault on Maan Singh Khalsa happened in my county, in the next door town, very near to me. The temple he attends is on the hillside just above my church. We have a large Sikh community here. Right after 9/11, one of our Sikh neighbors was shot. Not something we’re proud of. The men who attacked Khalsa have been charged with felony assault & hate crimes — and fuckem. I hope they spend a lot of quality time in San Quentin.
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@WereBear:
In what sense? Trump certainly believes it. His closest advisors are all conspiracy theorists. Most conservative lawmakers share the same prejudice that this sheriff does, the overwhelming gut feeling that if coloreds are winning, they must be cheating somehow. Trump is the GOP. Most of its politicians represent that branch that really would rather use dog whistles and coddle the rich while they’re stamping down minorities, but certainly considers racism more important than anything else.
Peale
@Brachiator: maybe the Dems should wait for the GOP to offer its own damn lifeline.
redshirt
For the less informed, this wikileaks stuff might be working. They don’t know whats in it, but they know it’s bad.
Redshift
EJ Dionne had a very level-headed column about the non-racist economic issues supposedly motivating some Trump supporters, and what liberals can do to address them post-election. However, the Thinkg he completely failed to address is that liberals already support most of these things, and they’re blocked by the intransigence of the people Trump supporters vote for.
Adam L Silverman
@Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman): Stetsons have become traditional headgear for sheriffs. I’m pretty sure he wears five stars because the Milwaukee City Chief of Police, Chief Flynn – the actual law enforcement officer in charge in Milwaukee proper/the largest incorporated portion of Milwaukee County, has four stars on his uniform. There was, apparently, a stars on shoulder board gap and the Sheriff Clarke wanted everyone to know who had more stars. Or he’s compensating for something…
sigaba
@Trentrunner: Atlantic had that article yesterday arguing that the biggest upshot of the Trump campaign is nobody feels even remotely guilty about dismissing the “white working class” now. He’s the single most destructive influence on their interests.
Also let’s be clearer, poor people in the US vote for Democrats two to one, and the average Trumper is relatively well off. Poverty and access to economic opportunity isn’t much of a determing factor here, they don’t want relief from economic problems if it means giving up an inch of kulcha.
Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)
@Iowa Old Lady: The only thing I could find on Fox News that even remotely qualifies as a ‘game-changer’ is this.
FBI Files contain quid pro quo allegations
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: See all these stars? RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!
hovercraft
The list of people whose reputations always questionable, but now irredeemable continues to grow.
Dave Clark Jr. – call BLM racists.
Chris Christie – liar, hostage, currently in witness protection.
Jeff Sessions – now openly known to be a fascist white supremecist.
Rudy Guiliani – now telling us that people are being bused in from Camden NJ to vote in Philadelphia. Since democrats control the inner cities, there is a lot of cheating there, busing and dead people voting. Republicans don’t control the cities so they don’t cheat.
So Rudy is saying that black people are stealing elections. These people are deplorable and irredeemable. Nice.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: He is elected, though he was originally appointed in 2002 to fill an unexpected vacancy. I think what the County Executive was implying is that while he knows what Sheriff Clarke’s total budget is, and what he’s spending money on, only 10% has anything to do with what he’s actually supposed to be doing. Basically he’s turned the Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Office into his own fiefdom, sucking up resources for things outside of his actual jurisdiction, that could and should be used on other county priorities.
TriassicSands
@ThresherK:
If you recall, former president George W. Bush told us he wasn’t all that interested in bin Laden. so there was no need for anyone to be looking for Osama. For the past eight years, I’m assuming that Sheriff Clarke has been hot on the trail of the Kenyan Usurper’s birth certificate. Maybe he was part of the crack team of investigators that Trump sent to Hawaii. You know, the ones who were finding amazing, shocking stuff. Stuff that was never divulged to the public. One wonders why Trump was engaged in a cover-up. Perhaps, the worst cover-up in the history of the universe.
@Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman):
What’s up with the Stetson? He must live in “western” Milwaukee.
Sheriff Clarke, just another angry old white guy supporting Trump.
Wait. Oops!
If there were no published photos of Sheriff Clarke, most people would probably assume he is an angry old white guy. He walks like a duck. He quacks like a duck, but, damn, he’s no duck. Go figure.
Brachiator
@Iowa Old Lady:
The Wall Street speeches are pretty tame, but might have hardened Bernie Sanders opposition. But it is just idle speculation to say that this would have significantly changed primary votes.
Some other leaks suggest that reporters fed the Clinton campaign information and deliberately tailored some feature video pieces to be favorable. A lot of this is more a matter of interpretation, not hard fact.
Some Freedom of Information material suggests that Friends of Bill got special consideration from the State Department when it came to seeking contracts related to Haitian relief efforts. I wish that this information had come out earlier and was investigated more thoroughly. As it is, conservative media is using this to declare proof of corruption where the facts are unclear.
adorable trnc
I doubt he wanted to report all the other ones that he himself had committed.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@Brachiator: They already are. Her name is Hillary Clinton.
scav
@Brachiator: Somewhere last night I stumbled across a pit of typing vipers demanding why the press hadn’t more widely reported Hillary’s half-black son. Not quite sure how that golden-oldie retread is expected to play well in this election, but out it was dragged and beat upon.
hovercraft
@Iowa Old Lady:
The public/private stances. That she thinks banks should play a role in bank reform because they know it best, and that if they don’t clean up their own house Washington will come in and do it for them. That she used to be for Keystone. That they said bad things about other democrats including Nina Turner. If I’m to understand this the fact that we were in a contentious primary and didn’t always say nice things about the other side. Shocking, I know.
WereBear
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck: I’m not talking about believing it. I’m talking about the factual basis for any of the things they fear so much.
Like the poster on a previous thread who called out someone they knew about being hysterical about the abortion rate. The hysterical person did not know that the abortion rate has been dramatically going down. Hysterical person gets all their information from propaganda sources. Has no clue about what reality is.
The cynical leaders feed into their follower’s fears. They don’t buy into them.
Redshift
@Iowa Old Lady: We happened to have CNN on a few minutes ago while they covered the story. Apparently she “wasn’t as tough” on Wall Street in her paid speeches as she is on the campaign trail. Shock! Horror! So newsworthy!
Also, she said regulation is important, but too much regulation can be bad! And that people in the financial industry are the most knowledgeable about it. If you’re a Bernie-or-bust type, apparently that means she favors “self-regulation.” (CNN did not say that, btw. Their coverage was actually fine.)
So it’s all a big yawn, basically.
hovercraft
@RobertDSC-Quad Intel Mac:
Nah, he is proof that it’s not about race. He’s a good one, one of them, they’ll keep him to be their mascot.
debbie
Five or six times, someone on my FB feed has posted Michelle Obama’s NH speech. This single dissent stands out (my bold):
She may not realize, but I think this chick is complaining about herself.
Adam L Silverman
@Iowa Old Lady: Nothing of any real importance. The Goldman-Sachs transcripts are meh. In fact they’re actually good for her. I’ve got an upcoming post on her remarks to Goldman-Sachs on why no fly zones are difficult and inherently dangerous, which belies her persona as a bloodthirsty hawk. The other stuff basically just shows that she built a smart, tough campaign team that functions the way a campaign team should. The do strategy. They have working groups and planning meetings. They pay a lot of attention to communication and communication strategy and the candidate’s image and the candidate’s shortcomings and how to overcome them or finesse them. Eventually, for scholars, journalists, and citizens that are fascinated by this stuff its going to be an archival treasure trove of what a proper campaign set up looks like.
The biggest issues are 1) Russian’s doing the hacking, 2) Wikileaks as, at least, an informal agent of Russia in its attempt to manipulate the elections, and 3) that Wikileaks didn’t curate anything. So in regard to the last you get access to emails from a desperate, wealthy Democratic fundraiser trying to get any of her powerful contacts to help get her terminally ill husband on to an experimental drug trial. This has been trotted out as exhibit A in doing favors for wealthy donors. What it really shows is that even wealthy people don’t/can’t just buy their way into whatever they want and that this poor women – regardless of her wealth – did the same thing that everyone does: leverage every contact and connection she can think of to try to get help. The larger issue with these emails coming out uncurated is that this set probably should have been held back. And if Wikileaks wasn’t going to do it, then the news media should have. This woman’s grief, terrors, and panic didn’t need to be trotted out so that Chuck Todd could feel morally superior on TV this morning.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: I’ve got a post planned to talk about some of this stuff. Same bat time, same bat station!
adorable trnc
As PA noted earlier, Sessions’ and others’ claims that the election is rigged is somewhat undermined by the fact that the same state run election organizations don’t appear to be rigging senate and house elections.
Ruviana
@debbie: What? I’m not even sure what that means!
Iron City
@Adam L Silverman: How big are the good sheriff’s hands?
marc
I love how Sheriff Clarke wears 4 stars. In the Army, that is a full General. The U.S. First Army is currently commanded by a Lieutenant General (one grade lower).
Edit: Some comments indicated it’s actually 5 stars. That’s “General of the Army” held by only a few individuals in history (beginning with Sherman and ending with Bradley) as commanding the entire US Army.
Kathleen
@sigaba: Impeachable offense!!!!
With the Trump Turdslime Tsunami they’re still nattering about Wikileaks and most probably doctored emails? I really, really want to know what Trump has on them and their bosses. Might be a worthy hash tag #TrumpMediaBlackmail.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: With no unincorporated areas in the county, Clarke’s agency should only be responsible for the county detention facility, some traffic patrol and the court bailiffs, as noted by Abele. So Clarke has indeed just decided that his title gives him a podium from which to spew nonsense. And it’s nonsense that’s eagerly consumed by the GOP in that county. But as you know better than most, Dr. Silverman, the Constitutional Sheriffs have little to do with either of the words in their title.
In other midwestern news, Trump’s OH campaign director has started a pissing match with the OH GOP Chairman. Which GOP is paying salaries for Trump’s OH campaign staff. The timing, it’s everything. My apologies if this has already been widely discussed.
Peale
@marc: George Washington managed to get by with two.
adorable trnc
I just saw Omarosa leading a crowd in a chant of “Trump Train.” I had not previously heard of that sex act, so I was wondering if anyone else knew what it was. No pictures, please.
Iowa Old Lady
What you all are saying reinforces my own impression that there are lots of vague, amorphous accusations floating around that sound bad but can’t be crystalized into proof of wrongdoing. The slipperiness of it drives me crazy. You can’t get hold of it, and if you grab a corner, the accuser slithers away onto a different topic.
greennotGreen
@Adam L Silverman: My family has a member with a serious chronic disease, and there are no lengths, perhaps short of a federal crime, to which his caregiver would not go to get him promising medication. Such a story highlights the limitations of “compassionate use” more than it does the slightest hint of corruption.
Cain
Looks like Barro made switching to democrat all official with him switching to a democrat. It was a righteous rant and underscores a lot of how we should all approach the two political parties. I would like to believe that I will do the same thing if the Democratic party ever did something so foolish.
redshirt
@Iowa Old Lady: It’s the traditional “Where there’s smoke there’s fire” tactic the Repukes use. Throw so much BS out there, and many come to the impression something has to be wrong, even if they have no idea of the facts.
Brachiator
@scav:
I thought this was supposed to be Bill’s son. If it were Hillary’s son, it might make me want to vote for her twice.
But you’re right. This shit is a racist perennial. I remember when they tried to use it against McCain in one of the Southern primaries.
I also like the old canard that Hillary had Vince Foster’s love child, and this is why Foster had to be taken care of.
What a bunch of dopes.
Adam L Silverman
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Saw that about Borges. His wife has been very vocally opposed to Trump, as, apparently, is their dog’s digestive system.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/trump-was-so-bad-he-made-the-dog-throw-up-ohio-gop-chairs-wife-cant-stomach-sundays-debate/
Frankensteinbeck
@WereBear:
But most of them do buy into those fears. I’m sure there are a few cynics somewhere, but abortion is a great example. When the Texas governor was told that sex education reduces abortion, his only response was to look blank and confused. Like his followers, he KNOWS that abstinence-only education works. Ryan has worshipped Rand all his life, and certainly believes his magic budgets will create a utopia. They’re craven cowards and liars, but in general, yeah, I think GOP politicians have drunk their own Kool-Aid.
germy
@Brachiator:
Karl Rove’s idea?
Adam L Silverman
@greennotGreen: I’ve been trying to go from consultant at a defense contractor back to, at least, a full time contractor line for months. I’ve leveraged every contact I have – general officers/flag officers, deputy assistant secretaries, GS15s, SESes, colonels – you name it. Some of this is for leads on where I should apply? Do they know anyone looking for someone who does what I do? Would they serve as a reference? Write a letter of reference? Most of this has been done by email. This is just how life works.
Redshift
@zeynep on Twitter has dug in quite a bit on the emails that are “going viral,” and found that at least the top twenty are fake. They’re not completely fabricated; typically they take an email from some outside person to Podesta and claim it’s a conversation between Podesta and Clinton.
Seems useful to know, and a good basis for treating any claims about the emails as false unless the claimant can provide actual evidence (i.e., don’t waste your time digging into them to disprove an allegation that seems unlikely; just demand the troll do the work.)
Brachiator
@Adam L Silverman:
Very cool. I will look forward to reading it.
Lizzy L
@Adam L Silverman: Objection: suggests that the news media is capable of compassion and/or moral judgment. I see no signs of either.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: I forgot to link to that first piece where the dog threw up. Of course I aspirated coffee when I first read that terrific bit of writing, offered again for its charm.
And her joke was delightful as well. Good dog.
WereBear
Man. That is so depressing. You are probably more right that I am.
debbie
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Borges said today he was still supporting Trump, so the principled courage was short-lived.
Adam L Silverman
@Redshift: This was Malcolm Nance’s conclusion about two weeks ago. The emails were a combination of doctored to make them look bad – adding or removing material, changing who they appeared to be from and/or to – and outright fabrications where the material within the email was simply replaced with poorly worded/translated fabricated material.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/oct/14/hillary-clinton-email-hack-russia-cybersecurity
Roger Moore
@Adam L Silverman:
I think there’s also probably 4) the Russians just don’t understand American politics very well. They obviously think at least some of this stuff is devastating to Clinton, but in practice it’s a huge yawn. Maybe they’ll learn more in the future, but I suspect this reflects them coming from an authoritarian background and just not getting who genuine electoral politics works.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: There’s three posts I’ve been meaning to do – HRC and no fly zones (from the 2nd debate), Syrian Ceasefire and US-Russian relations, and the Yemen stuff. Now this – so that’s four. And there’s just such a daily deluge of wacky because of the campaign that getting to things becomes difficult time wise.
Redshift
Someone i know on Twitter retweeted a wingnut tweet about a supposed “smoking gun” email from Clinton. Which contained the phrase “the Democrat Party.”
Sigh.
Just One More Canuck
@Adam L Silverman: his small hands?
Brachiator
@Redshift:
Maybe it was Maddow or another reporter who noted that a lot of the valid emails were just copies to Podesta or people venting.
There are no grand plots being hatched, no frantic cover-ups. Not even an arch villain level plot to sink the Sanders campaign.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman:
Um…does the author not realize that most of these emails are not State Department emails?
amk
OT, she-devil is leading in WI by nearly 10 points.
Baud
Does anyone know how podesta’s Gmail account was hacked? Brute force password attempts?
sigaba
@marc: Four stars is a common insignia for a chief of police (yes it’s ostentatious as fuck.) Chief of the LAPD wears four stars. I’m pretty sure the chief of Ferguson MO did too…
Baud
@amk: Yay Badgers!
Adam L Silverman
@Roger Moore: I’m not sure this is the case. I think what they’re actually trying to do is continue/add to the delegitimization of American political and social institutions. Putin’s objective is to weaken the US, the EU, and NATO. To do this one has to disrupt not only the over alliances and linkages, but also the internal cohesion of those states, societies, and alliances. That’s the point of the email dumps. Something else I’d like to get to, but probably won’t have time:
https://www.wired.com/2016/10/want-know-julian-assanges-endgame-told-decade-ago/?mbid=social_twitter
WereBear
@Baud: He used the same password on his Gmail account as he did on some obscure forum which got hacked. Once a hacker gets a email/password combination, they try it everywhere.
I have a unique Gmail password and 2 step authentication, as advised during a past thread on the subject.
hovercraft
Voter Enthusiasm from the WaPost/ABC poll
Trump 79%
Clinton 83%
How is this possible? I’ve been told that Hillary is only getting votes because she is the lesser of two evils, and that everyone hates her.
Brachiator
@germy:
Here’s what’s known.
Rove denied being part of this.
Baud
@WereBear: Thanks. Me too. Although I’m in the mood to change all my passwords. Can’t have Baud! 2016! secrets getting out.
Adam L Silverman
@Brachiator: Exactly. I used to cc or bcc my frontline supervisor at USAWC and at TRADOC on almost all my correspondence via email or forward the emails to them with a For Your Significant Information/Information Only: No Action Required subject line to make sure that everyone I reported to were never surprised by something I was working on, doing, dealing with, responding to, helping with, etc. I’m a big believer of working right up to the lines of the authorizations and duties enumerated in my position description in terms of “unless otherwise directed” (UNODIR) action, but at the same time I always want to make sure there are no surprises for those I report to.
amk
@Baud: I balme
kenyanall that cheese.Baud
@hovercraft:
Rigged.
Roger Moore
@adorable trnc:
Surprisingly, there’s no sexual definition of it yet in Urban Dictionary, which means it’s open for definition. Have at it.
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: I think there is confusion, both unintentional and intentional, on exactly what has been hacked: campaign related emails, as well as every email Podesta sent and/or received for the past decade on his gmail account, not Secretary Clinton’s emails from her time working at the State Department.
Mark B
@Baud: What I’ve heard is that he used a weak password, which was the same password he used as another site for some kind of minor thing. When that site was compromised, they used the harvested password to hack his other accounts.
Edit: already answered by @werebear
Adam L Silverman
@sigaba: You are correct. I’m guessing Clarke decided he needed to upstage his chief of police colleagues in the municipalities within Milwaukee County. It would fit with the Constitutional Sheriff BS that argues that the highest law enforcement officer is always the elected county sheriff. And that they are also the only legitimate and highest elected authority in the US – not state legislators or executives, nor Federal legislators or executives. Not even the elected county commissioners and county chairpeople they work for.
Redshift
@Adam L Silverman: I’m actually somewhat hopeful that if Hillary wins by historic margins, the Dems won’t learn Assange’s intended destructive message (destroy organizational effectiveness by being paranoid about internal communications.) Instead, the lesson will be “it’s embarrassing, but not particularly harmful.” And the next time, when the novelty has worn off, such things will get even less attention.
Thoughtful David
I haven’t seen this column by Dana Milbank mentioned and I hadn’t seen it before today, but the date on it is the 14th. It makes me want to rant.
I appreciate that Milbank is finally getting there, almost 3/4 of the way there. Yes, he is most definitely a Villager and is almost always a top-level Broderist, but in the last few months, he’s started coming to his senses and saying some correct things.
In this column he finally is starting to get there:
which he has to follow up with a bit of both-siderism, although mostly laying the blame where it belongs.
Then he follows that up with another good bit of dawning self-awareness:
But he fails to connect the two. He blames Trump’s rise on recent events, in the last few years. Fox News giving him a platform for his birtherism, and more recent stuff.
But he can’t seem to make the cognitive leap: that he and his colleagues in the news business have been fluffing the nutcases for FUCKING DECADES. The dog-damned hundreds of thousands of hours spent on slamming the Clintons, and Gore, and Kerry. The dog-damned hundreds of thousands of hours feeling starbursts run up their legs when Snowbilly Snookie winked.
I do appreciate Mr. Milbank’s growing awareness, but he and the other fucking Villagers have so damned far to go.
Mark B
@adorable trnc: I think it’s a variant of human centipede.
James E Powell
I’m curious why Trump was campaigning in New England yesterday.
Does he have a chance of winning that one congressional district in Maine? Was that one EV worth the trip?
Iowa Old Lady
@Baud: I thought the FBI said there was no evidence her private server had been hacked. All this vague crap is floating around, stitched together by the word “e-mail.” But there are a whole bunch of different action being talked about there, and it become hard to remember what’s what.
Redshift
@hovercraft: Unpossible. Why, just yesterday, the conversation on NPR/multiple satellite radio channels was that yeah, Trump is tanking, but Hillary supporters aren’t as enthusiastic, so they may not come out to vote!
Gindy51
@Brachiator: In other words, a big, fat, dripping, nothing burger.
Adam L Silverman
@Redshift: It would be nice.
Adam L Silverman
@Thoughtful David: He was pretty good on AM Joy this morning.
Baud
@Redshift: As much as I hate polls, I’ll take them any day over pundits opinions.
JCJ
@scav: so are they talking about Barack Obama or Colin Kaepernick?
redshirt
@James E Powell: Yes. Last poll had Trump up 2 in ME CD2.
I’m betting he won’t win it.
Thoughtful David
@Adam L Silverman: Didn’t see it. Yes, his columns lately have been pretty good. But like I said–his steps are baby steps, and he hasn’t yet realized all that has gone on.
Baud
@redshirt: That would be nice. I like Maine, despite LePage.
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman: That’s been the case from the first Wikileaks dump: people talk about “emails” as a blanket term covering both Clinton’s use of a private email server, and the various hacked emails from other sources entirely, and it very much appeared that there was an intentional effort to confuse them and make it look as if Clinton allowed these emails to be hacked by using a private server.
hovercraft
@James E Powell:
He knows that the polls are wrong. He has studied at the school of Noonan, and therefor knows that crowd size and twitter followers and social media mentions are all the most important measures of how a candidate is performing. The days of him citing and believing polls are over, now it’s all about how many people come to your rallies and how vocal and passionate they are.
Iowa Old Lady
Since this is an open thread, I want to throw in that my husband has decided to retire at the end of November. My life is over.
Peale
So I guess the wingosphere is a flutter that Drudge is going to unleash proof that Bill and Hillary kept a child sex slave. God, wingosphere. When people talk about “lifelines” I’m beginning to think those lines need to be cut, not offered.
hovercraft
@Iowa Old Lady:
I’m not sure what to say, congratulation and my condolences.
germy
@Iowa Old Lady: Why?
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
And nothing else that could possibly dilute it.
Roger Moore
@Adam L Silverman:
I honestly think that Assange’s approach is going to wind up being self-limiting. All of this stuff from DNC and now Podesta hasn’t really moved the needle much because there’s nothing that looks particularly damning unless you were already convinced that Hillary is awful. The same thing with her emails from the State Department. If anything, I think this shows how little real damage a leak of this magnitude will do to an organization that isn’t doing anything wrong.
Matt McIrvin
@James E Powell:
Campaigning in New Hampshire actually makes sense for him, I think.
He’s significantly behind in New Hampshire and it doesn’t look gettable right now. But he’s significantly behind in the whole country and it doesn’t look gettable right now. If the national situation somehow shifted such that the race was closer to tied, New Hampshire could actually become critical, because it seems to be sort of a bellwether this year: its Clinton vs. Trump margin is close to the entire country’s, at least by some measures. If the whole country goes back to a knife edge, NH will be on a knife edge as well, and there are scenarios where those four electoral votes make the difference.
If you look at Sam Wang’s “Power of One Vote” list, you’ll see that New Hampshire is right at the top.
Hal
@Cain: I was surprised Barro was a Republican to begin with. Gay, socially liberal, and very much outspoken about the problems with the Republican party and the conservative movement. I think his parents are conservative somebody’s?
redshirt
@Baud: Hillary will win Maine, no doubt about it. The only question is can Trump get that 1 EV from CD2.
Obama won CD2 handily in 2008 and 2012. I’d be surprised if Trump takes it, but it is possible.
hovercraft
@Peale:
That goes well with Mike Pence saying he doesn’t know if Clinton is taking performance enhancing drugs.
Iowa Old Lady
@germy: I like a lot of time alone, both to write and to surf the net. We’re going to have to learn to live together but have separate lives during the week. The weekend is not a good model. It will work out, but it’s going to be a big change.
amk
@Iowa Old Lady: commiserations ? congratulations?
eta: see that others beat me to it. damn you all.
Iowa Old Lady
@amk: @hovercraft: Yeah, both.
germy
@Iowa Old Lady: I also like my alone time. My wife and I busy ourselves with our various activities in separate parts of the house, and then when we get together it still feels special. A walk to the farmers’ market, or just watching a movie together.
There’s a million things she does that get on my nerves, and there’s a million things I do that get on her nerves, so sometimes we circle each other warily.
Matt McIrvin
@redshirt: Back just before Pneumoniagate there was a Colby College/SurveyUSA poll showing Trump +10 in Maine CD2. But it seems to have been an outlier; no other poll shows Trump that far ahead. But he generally is slightly ahead there.
…ah, I take it back: just after Pneumoniagate broke, MPRC had a four-way poll with Trump +11 there. But it got a lot closer after that.
amk
@Matt McIrvin: you are it’s a quarter empty even in the proverbial half-empty glass scenario guy, aren’t ya? Friggin’ NH will “decide” it? Really?
Lizzy L
@Iowa Old Lady: Best of luck! It is a big change, but it can be done.
redshirt
@Matt McIrvin: Yeah, that was a scary poll. It’s much much better now.
Gelfling 545
Sessions may not be aware that rig is not a synonym for win. In fact, it’s probably just a small feature of his whole unaware package.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: I’ve come to the stunning conclusion that Julian Assange is just a crappy, crappy person.
Rotting garbage in human form.
A bacterial infection upon the body politic.
I just hope that enough people have finally started to see thru’ his bullshit and repudiate him for it that he’ll end his pathetic excuse for a life in complete obscurity, huddled on a sofa in the basement of the Ecuadorean embassy, long after everyone has forgotten who and what he was. With only the janitorial staff even noticing his passing.
hovercraft
@Roger Moore:
He has also limited the marketplace for his product, his leaks this election have been openly partisan, so going forward he will be viewed in much the same light as an entity like FOX news. His biggest following / fan base was the left, and now by and large he has lost them. He retains the GG’s of the world and the purity ponies on the far left, but he has lost the bulk of us. So in a month after the election is over and he has a real bombshell, who is going to care? The right will be in a frothing rage over the election results that they won’t care what he has to say, and the left won’t trust him anymore, he will be irrelevant.
Chris T.
@hovercraft: And I don’t know if Mike Pence eats live cockroaches on alternate Thursdays.
Thoughtful David
@hovercraft:
Yes, it seems to me to have been a pretty poor strategy. Something like WikiLeaks, to be taken seriously, has to have credibility. Which Assange has just spent the last 6 months attempting to destroy. Crappy human being or not, it’s really stupid.
sukabi
@Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman):
I wanna be a cowboy, baby.
lollipopguild
@Peale: Drudge and Satan in a pants suit had a kid together?
Ruckus
@germy:
The long time ritual of mutual awareness. The US and Russian navies use to do this and may still to this day. Two ships would sail along about a 1/4-1/2 mile apart for sometimes hours at a time. I could never tell which one was doing the stalking.
Lizzy L
Trump is now proclaiming that SNL is part of the media conspiracy against him and should be banned. He doesn’t want to be president, he wants to be czar. No wonder he’s so drawn to Putin. (Well, that, and the fact that Russian banks will lend him money when nobody else will.) What an anti-democratic weasel the man is.
I wonder if he will pull out of the third debate when his drug test suggestion is rejected?
hovercraft
@Hal:
His father is a prominent conservative economist, Josh is too, but he says that the GOP is no longer a serious governing entity. The debt ceiling shenanigans and the government shutdown nonsense, and the lack of any real policy alternatives to what Obama did/proposed, made him turn his back on his party. He is still a fiscal conservative, but he says the GOP isn’t, he points out that when Reagan railed about tax rates, the top marginal rates were way too high, but that was 40 years ago and we’ve been cutting taxes ever since so the situation is different, and so the solutions need to be different too. He’s a sensible person, so can’t condone the crazy that’s taken over the GOP.
Gelfling 545
@Redshift: She refrained from pissing on the welcome mat when invited to someons’s house? Scandalous.
lollipopguild
@Chris T.: Mike Pence is a cockroach? Did he read too much Kafka?
dmsilev
@Lizzy L: Because complaining that comedians are making fun of you always results in them stopping…
scav
@Iowa Old Lady: Have you got enough space and interests for one of you to have an outside sort of solid, insulated workshop / machine-woodshop / personal cave? Sometimes getting a more of less dedicated physical space (plus the time spent devoted to getting it outfitted) can help develop the new habits. Offices at opposite ends of the house have been observed to work.
Anoniminous
@James E Powell:
The answer I’ve come up with to any question starting with “I’m curious why Trump …” is “he and his campaign staff have no clue as to what they are doing.”
Jeffro
@Redshift: I mentioned this a thread or two ago … he and Dana Milbank can KMA with this kind of “we progressives are culpable too” nonsense
amk
@dmsilev: does the carnival barker even know how anything works?
Peale
@lollipopguild: I look forward to knowing that Drudge is entering old age in existential pain. Every day Hillary spends in office will be bad one for him. May she rule for enternity.
Peale
@Jeffro: yep. When the smoke clears and the Republicans write their post mortem, I’m sure “liberals” will once again be front and center of the reasons why the Republicans needn’t do anything different. Just a few tweaks.
Iowa Old Lady
@scav: We probably need to work out separate offices. But another complication here is that when he retired, we’ve planned to sell this house and move into a senior facility close to our son. We’ll see how all this goes.
Gelfling 545
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): The videos of pets reacting to Trump that are making the rounds on FB are priceless.
Jeffro
@Thoughtful David: I saw it too and ranted about it in the last thread
lollipopguild
@Peale: Yes and the same for Rash Limburger.
NotoriousJRT
Honestly, why give any pixels to that KOOK sheriff?
Kathleen
@Brachiator: “Ma, Ma where’s my Pa? Gone to the White House Ha Ha Ha”.
This from Grover Cleveland’s opponent’s campaign.
Jeffro
@Peale: well it has been funny to try and watch them all endorsing “the nominee” without mentioning him by name so that it can’t be used against them in future ads. Riiiiiiiight, guys…
Miss Bianca
@Gelfling 545: I’ve seen the one of the cat recoiling in apparent horror when Trump comes on screen. You mean there are others? (of course there must be others!)
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@Adam L Silverman:
Wow. That’s practically the classic 19-year-old’s ‘I’m going to stick it to The Man!’ speech. Complete with figuring out one thing that isn’t actually new, and thinking he’s a transformative genius.
chopper
@Kathleen:
I dont expect political campaigns of old to really turn a phrase but that shit’s missy elliott bad.
Fair Economist
@Iowa Old Lady:
A few month after my (late) father retired, my mother called me on the the phone (which she rarely does). She said, “You’ve got to find something for your father to do! He’s driving me nuts!” The problem did pass after a while. Best wishes!
Ruviana
I know one article isn’t definitive but after I read about Assange in the LRB I more or less wrote him off as a meglomaniac. Too many spoiled white guys around.
Adam L Silverman
@Fair Economist:
As in he found something to do or your Mother did him in?//
Shell
So, looks like Guiliani has gone from annoying surrogate and media-hog to full blown scumbag. Now he’s parroting the “election could be rigged.” With the inner-cities having dead people vote” rationale. Genius! “Inner cities” of course code for those sneaky black-folk.
Of course he knows its utter bullshit, but he happily goes on tv and spews this garbage.
debbie
@Thoughtful David:
It’s been more like four decades that Trump has been an attention whore. Maybe not in Kansas, but he was known throughout New England as a major league asshole since the mid-70s.
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
@Anoniminous: I always assume that “somehow there’s money in it for Trump”. Using sound equipment rented at exorbitant rates from the just-created Trump Lighting and Sound of New England or something.
NotoriousJRT
@Redshift:
Agree. Life lines offered but denied by more local opposition.
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
@Fair Economist: I plan to retire next summer. My wife has already assured me her life is plenty busy and she’s not going to be around for me to get on her nerves.
hovercraft
@Shell:
Here’s the video, watch it and tell me that this man is not an evil racist fuck.
Giuliani: Democrats Could Steal Election By Having Dead People Vote In ‘Inner Cities’
Peale
@hovercraft: yep. And he was the moderate republican darling. Was well funded for president if I recall, but couldn’t get past those hick voters in Iowa in the primary. Instead of railing against him, why not ask those Sunday show hosts who’ve made him a regular for 20 years to release their hot mike tapes.
lgerard
@Shell:
Please note that when 9ui11iani claimed that he had seen massive electoral fraud during his years as a prosecutor, Tapper did not ask the obvious question:
How many people did you prosecute for voter fraud?
The answer would have been illuminating
Waldo
@Shell:
Ghouliani is just annoyed that poll workers always insist on checking his vital signs.
Adam L Silverman
@Shell: @hovercraft: He does realize he won the election for Mayor in NY City twice, right?
Kathleen
@chopper: My Dad, who was a history major and avid reader, would regale my Mom and me with this “jingle” when I was a kid. I had a strange (in a good way) family.
Chris
@Trentrunner:
What enrages me about these “think of the poor Trump voters who feel left behind and are hurting economically” is this:
There are lots of Americans who are hurting economically, who feel like they have no voice in the system, etc – like, to take a completely random example, poor inner city neighborhoods that are full of nonwhite people. For these people, the prescription of the right wing (and first and foremost of the Trump voters) is 1) blame yourselves, 2) stop stewing in a culture of victimhood that leads you to blame all your problems on other people, 3) it’s your fault for voting for politicians who keep you “on the plantation,” 4) stop asking the rest of us to help you solve your problems, it’s not up to us to fix your mess, take some responsibility yourselves. Oh, yes: and whenever they say something about not feeling like they’re part of the system (i.e. the Katrina “Bush doesn’t care about black people” quote), it’s vicious and hurtful slander and a terrible thing to say.
Why the fuck should we care how Trump voters are doing? By their own standards? Yes, of course I know the answer – both why they think we should care (because they’re white, Christian and conservative and therefore special, even if they’d never phrase it that way) and why we actually should care (because no matter what fucking assholes they are, they’re still citizens who need to put food on the table). But I’d still like the question brought up in public discourse.
Matt McIrvin
@amk:
It almost certainly won’t. But at this point, Trump has to rely on some kind of nationwide catastrophe to cause a nationwide opinion shift, and if that were to happen, NH would probably be a good place to have campaigned.
That’s basically why PEC rates it has having high voter power in the presidential race. Another way to put it is the way electoral-vote.com does in their “tipping-point states” list: they rank states by how Republican or Democratic they’re trending, then add up the electoral votes, and if you do that, NH is pretty close to the spot where you hit 270 (though they have Florida and Nevada closer).
adorable trnc
@Roger Moore: OK. I’m thinking maybe gratification through multiple instances of sexual assault while screaming racist and misogynist invective. Orgasm is achieved while yelling “Lock her up!” instead of “Oh, God!”
Too close to the definition of his campaign?
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: How do you think he KNOWS about vote rigging, Adam?
ETA: “DEAD MAN VOTING!”
Chris
@Peale:
“When the smoke clears?” The NeverTrumpists have been saying for over a year that Trump’s not a real conservative but that he’s just a narcissist like Obama. If Trump loses, the nanosecond he loses the entire party will proclaim that he was never one of them and this is what you get for nominating liberals.
scav
@Shell: Of course, it will be perfectly obvious that if the brain-dead vote, Trump will win in a landslide.
Brachiator
@Peale:
The president is the president of the US, not just Democrats. She must try to be inclusive, despite any inevitable GOP lies or obstructionism.
Chris
@debbie:
Like I said a few days back: it’s really striking to me that Donald Trump was the person that Alternate Timeline Biff Tannen was modeled on in the Back To The Future sequel, and that it’s basically a pretty spot on portrait of everything we’re seeing now. Three decades ago. Three decades ago, everything about Trump that’s making waves in this election was already perfectly obvious enough for the guy to be a movie punchline.
redshirt
@Chris: R.E.M. mocks Trump in “It’s the end of the world as we know it”.
I have a Spy magazine book from the late 80’s mocking Trump.
And yet, here we are.
Chris
@redshirt:
I suppose the idea of Donald Trump in the Oval Office was as ridiculous in the eighties as… well, as the idea of Reagan in the Oval Office would’ve been in the fifties. Kind of adds a new layer to Doc Brown’s “Ronald Reagan? The actor?” moment.
hovercraft
@Chris:
Bill Maher has an entire bit at the end of this weeks New Rules about Hollywood predicting the future.
Flip phones – Star Trek
Touch screens – Minority Report
Black presidents
Forrest Gump – years before we elected George W Bush
Network – before FOX News and reality TV
Brachiator
@Kathleen:
The 1884 campaign was marred by exceptional political acrimony and personal invective.
Robert Todd Lincoln had been courted by the Republicans (shades of Jeb).
Grover Cleveland had connections to financiers. Benjamin Butler was the nominee of the Anti Monopoly Party, opposed to rising corporations.
Blaine tried to smear Cleveland’s personal character, but he himself was vulnerable because of charges of corruption and his association with anti Catholic bigotry.
Ultimately, voters chose the supposedly morally flawed candidate over the bigot.
Sound familiar?
smintheus
I like how the brilliant Sheriff used a photo that shows not even a single pitchfork. The one implement he imagines to be a pitchfork is actually a garden (or ‘spading’) fork. I guess that kind of ignorance comes from patrolling only urban highways and courthouses.
lgerard
@Brachiator:
Maybe the only election where the turning point was a cartoon
The Royal Feast of Belshazzar Blaine and the Money Kings
Tom Tomorrow take note!
The Lodger
@Adam L Silverman: The scary thing is, those jokes are getting funnier as time goes on.
The Lodger
@Shell: Urban elections can’t be trusted, says a man who was elected mayor of New York City twice. Sure, if you say so, Rudy.
ETA: And Adam beat me to it.
bjacques
@Peale: Drudge will die forgotten, like his hero Walter Winchell, who damn, had a sad life. His children had it worse.
The Lodger
Dave Clark? Five stars? Obvious musical reference.
joel hanes
@Iowa Old Lady:
If he has the slightest interest in the outdoors or the environment, get him hooked up with
The Iowa Prairie Network
No matter where you live in Iowa or what his physical capabilities, there’s a project near you that could use his energies.
Restoring prairie and wetland is an endless, fascinating, rewarding endeavor.
A visit to the Neal Smith NWR near Prairie City during bloom season, or in the fall, might be a good starting point.
Brachiator
@lgerard:
Yep. A great cartoon. Love the caption explaining it.
It appeared in the October 31, 1884 edition of the New York World.
JR in WV
@Iowa Old Lady:
Wow! Tell him congratulations from me, another retiree, 2008.
I do miss the co-workers, all working together towards a difficult goal.. on the other hand, afternoon naps, sleeping in late on a morning with really bad weather, that’s all good.
Also tell him he will need new goals, a bucket list.
Rick O'Leary
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel would be a poor place to expect a “deep dive” into anything, unless it is to promote one of their favorite candidates. The Journal-Sentinel was once a place, when it was the afternoon Journal, you could expect something; but since they “merged” with the morning Sentinel. it’s become a right-wing backwater like the Sentinel… In fact, the Sentinel clearly runs the place and their dominance is soundly confusing. If you think of Milwaukee as being the suburbs from Brookfield and west, that’s about right.
rawhide rawlins
I’m worried that I haven’t heard anything about the Dildo Revolutionaries in a while. Did they get off?
Original Lee
@Iowa Old Lady: Good luck (sincerely). Original Spouse is contemplating retirement. He’s been eligible for a couple of years, but now he seems serious. I, like you, work from home a lot, and the days he decides to take mental health time and stay home can be difficult. At least I’ve mostly broken him of reading over my shoulder, but more intensive training on not trying to talk to me during a conference call will be needed.
Omnes Omnibus
Fun news from the hinterlands of WI: Sheriff Clarke was interviewed on a local version of a Press the Meat type show this morning. He was asked why he always calls her Mrs. Bill Clinton instead of Secretary Clinton, Senator Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, Hillary, or Clinton. His response: She is married to Bill Clinton; she is, therefore, Mrs. Bill Clinton regardless of any other accomplishments. I was watching this with my 74 y/o mom; she never has thought of herself as Mrs. Pater Omnibus nor signed a document or check that way. Her mother did, but she was born in 1916. It was “holy fuck, you are sexist as hell” territory.
Ella in New Mexico
Where is the Justice Department?
Omnes Omnibus
@Ella in New Mexico: To do what?
jl
@Lizzy L: Disgusting news, and sad to hear it happened in Richmond, CA. Sikhs are not Muslim (indeed their reputation as brave and excellent soldiers is largely due to their battles against Muslim oppression in their ancestral country), and there has been an sizable and important Sikh community in Northern California for over 100 years. This is their damn home for going on three generations now. Sorry to hear that BS happened in CA (again).
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Also a serious breach of protocol.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Nice write up on this asshole. And good news from the family front, my nephew got called up tonight from the freshman soccer team to the varsity for the state playoffs. the school had an all freshman are on the freshman team, no matter what. I am disappointed that he does not understand the superiority of rugby. One can’t have everything.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: He can’t help himself. He has [Insert an minority – I will be an asshole] disease.