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Béisbol & MNF Open Thread (Updated)

by Betty Cracker|  October 17, 20168:09 pm| 72 Comments

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Blue Jays or Tribe? I’m pulling for the Jays for this series, then the Cubbies all the way.

Also: MNF, Jets vs. Cards. Don’t really care one way or another. You?

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    dedc79

    October 17, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    The pitching in both the ALCS and NLCS has been incredible.

  2. 2.

    James E Powell

    October 17, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    I am all in for the baseball team from my beloved home town of Cleveland.

    The town will be forever stained in history as the place where Republicans nominated Trump.

    They need this to obliterate the bad memories with the good.

  3. 3.

    Kenneth Kohl

    October 17, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    Sorry to read that, Betty.
    Go Tribe!

  4. 4.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 17, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    I’m with Betty. About time the Cubs took one.

  5. 5.

    Tokyokie

    October 17, 2016 at 8:21 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Hey! The Indians haven’t won the Series since 1948. And yeah, that’s not as long as the Cubbies, but it’s the second-longest drought of any non-expansion team.

  6. 6.

    Gary K

    October 17, 2016 at 8:24 pm

    Yeah, would love to see a Cubs-Cleveland series. Whoever would win, it would end a long drought.

  7. 7.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    @James E Powell: It would be better if Bob Ueker was calling the game though!

  8. 8.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: How you doing?

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    October 17, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    Jesus, someone yank poor Bauer off the mound!

  10. 10.

    jharp

    October 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm

    Big Indians fan. Was a season ticket holder at one time.

  11. 11.

    Schlemazel

    October 17, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    @Gary K:
    It would be great for those two teams but I think there would be some horrible catastrophe that would prevent the completion of the WS to maintain both teams streaks.

  12. 12.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 17, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    Cleveland is my favorite AL team–they are the only one that the Braves could beat in a World Series, and for that I will always be grateful.

    Now, go Cubbies!

  13. 13.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 17, 2016 at 8:31 pm

    @Schlemazel: commissioner would just award the victory to the Yankees or Red Sox

  14. 14.

    Roger Moore

    October 17, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    When I don’t have a personal rooting interest, I generally go for the team that has gone longer without winning. That puts me squarely in favor of a Cleveland/Chicago World Series. About the only time I’d make an exception would be for a case like the Yankees, who have won so many times they could go a few centuries without winning and still have more than their fair share of championships.

  15. 15.

    Doug R

    October 17, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    Once the Mariners are out, it’s Blue Jays all the way.

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    October 17, 2016 at 8:35 pm

    @Tokyokie:

    it’s the second-longest drought of any non-expansion team.

    Since 1948 is before expansion, it’s longer than the drought of any of the expansion teams, too.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    October 17, 2016 at 8:37 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    I think there would be some horrible catastrophe that would prevent the completion of the WS to maintain both teams streaks.

    Nothing dramatic happened to stop the Red Sox, White Sox, or Giants from ending their droughts, so why would you expect it for the Cubs and Indians?

  18. 18.

    WarMunchkin

    October 17, 2016 at 8:38 pm

    I’m a big fan of Hindu, are they playing this series?

  19. 19.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 17, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    No longer watch baseball but go Jays!

  20. 20.

    TaMara (HFG)

    October 17, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    Now that the Red Sox are eliminated, don’t care about anything but the Cubbies!!!

  21. 21.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    Having flashbacks to 1992, when I was a HUUUUGE Braves fan, but worked for the Canadian Consulate General in Atlanta — in an office in CNN Center, which was owned by Ted Turner, who owned the Braves at the time. So there were a lot of divided loyalties.

    Never have been able to persuade Canadians that it wasn’t the Braves who turned the Canadian Maple Leaf flag upside down — it was the United States Marines colour guard. But the Braves have always been blamed, and the (false) legend has long since overtaken the facts.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 8:43 pm

    As for this year, well, I’m a Chicago native and Cubs fan, but retain a great affection for Canada, especially the Jays. Still — if it comes down to those two teams in the WS, no question where my loyalties and cheering will be!

  23. 23.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Hanging in there. Damn good thing the Seahawks pulled off the win yesterday.

  24. 24.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: OT: Quick question for you: did you know an MOD officer named Donna Winslow?

  25. 25.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Good to hear.

  26. 26.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 17, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @Roger Moore: Mariners, for example, have never been to the WS. They lost the ALCS back in 2001, the year they had the best regular season since…the Tribe, in 1954!

  27. 27.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 17, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @Schlemazel: Donald Drumpf accuses the series of being “rigged” since he’s not even in it!

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    No, but if she is/was Ottawa-based I can almost guarantee I know people who know her.

  29. 29.

    redshirt

    October 17, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    C’mon Betty, that’s just un-American. Cubs – Indians Series would be the best.

    Also, what a dog of a Monday night game, as they all seem to be. But, Fantasy demands I watch. :(

  30. 30.

    redshirt

    October 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm

    @efgoldman: Why not both?

  31. 31.

    raven

    October 17, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    @redshirt: My sister has field level seats.

  32. 32.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    @efgoldman

    Rarely buy or eat ice cream. However, did find Blue Bunny brand Banana Split flavor quite tasty.

    Rarely seen here, so I do buy Häagen Dazs Rum Raisin when it does show up. Usually sits in the freezer for six months or more before am in the mood for ice cream.

  33. 33.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: no worries and no need to go any further with the query.

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:09 pm

    @efgoldman: You’re welcome. They subbrand under most major grocery store brands. They apparently have four different mint flavors, but I’ve only ever seen the mint moose tracks as opposed to the other mint varieties. I’ve also had their chocolate moose tracks and the fudge brownie moose tracks and just the moose tracks moose tracks (vanilla ice cream base). All of them are good.

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    October 17, 2016 at 9:10 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: It’s a damn tough time. Be kind to yourself.

  36. 36.

    redshirt

    October 17, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    @raven: Sweet. Pretty pricey I bet.

  37. 37.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Not at all fond of the taste of mint. It also makes my tongue itch afterwards.

    YMMV.

  38. 38.

    burnspbesq

    October 17, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    Did he Ontario provincial court rule in favor of the Indians, allowing them to wear their uniforms?

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Okay, but of course now I’m curious!!

  40. 40.

    Schlemazel

    October 17, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    But none of those face one of the other long-term losers.

    @Villago Delenda Est: \
    Speaking of losers! Maybe that would be the disaster, Trump would fall on the stadium & both teams would be wiped out by spattered fat.

  41. 41.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @NotMax: They have other flavors that do not have mint:
    http://moosetracks.com/products/moose-tracks-ice-cream/

  42. 42.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    @burnspbesq: Nope, they’re playing naked. Its like the first Olympics!

  43. 43.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 17, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    Just b/c anything good out of Chicago pisses off the wingers, go Cubs!

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    Adam, any comment?

    Retired Gen. Cartwright to Plead Guilty to Lying to Feds Probing Leaks

    Can the military reduce the rank of a retiree?

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I was checking to see if I need to pass on sad news. I’ve found that a lot of her former colleagues – both in academia and in the Canadian government and NATO when she worked for them – do not know she pass away five years ago. She was working with the US Army at the time (I’d known her for years from aikido), living in VA, and the news didn’t get widely disseminated back home.

  46. 46.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 17, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    OT – Got my results back. Disc isn’t ruptured, it’s herniated. Feels like the proverbial distinction without a difference pain wise, but at least now I know. Consult and plan of attack pending…

  47. 47.

    Gemina13

    October 17, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    Cubs, please, don’t screw this up. :0

  48. 48.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @NotMax: I had not been following that. In a civilian court – no, he only faces civilian criminal and/or civil penalties. I’m not an attorney, so you may want to wait for Omnes to turn up and ask him, but my understanding is he could be court martialed. I seriously doubt that would happen though. They didn’t recall GEN Petraeus and court martial him, so I doubt they would do it for this/him.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): It may not feel different, but that’s good news. Hopefully they’ll get you squared away treatment wise.

  50. 50.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 17, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @Gary K: This!

  51. 51.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Oh, that’s sad. Yeah, probably not something that I can/should poll my Canadian friends on, but on the off-chance one of them mentions her name, at least I’ll know. Was she civilian or in the CF?

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch

    October 17, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):

    Ruptured and herniated both sound painful, but I assume they have different protocols. I hope yours is the easier of the two. Take care, and speedy relief to you!

  53. 53.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 17, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @NotMax: Yes. Don’t remember how or if it shook out, but Petraeus was staring down the barrel of a two step reduction in grade: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2016/01/19/secdef-puts-petraeus-four-star-status-under-review/79003714/

  54. 54.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    October 17, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: I’ve done the ruptured bit, and overall it’s decidedly worse. At this point I’m hoping to avoid surgery. Should know more before the week is out.

  55. 55.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne, liberal mob enforcer bitch: She was a civilian. PhD in Anthropology. She was my counterpart at FT Lee in VA. Because I’d known her for 20 years before we became professional colleagues, my higher HQ called me when they got the news from the folks at FT Lee and I spent the next two days calling everyone I could in aikido and then the few contacts I had (a couple of Canadian generals I knew from coalition work) within the MOD. Eventually the guy she stipulated to execute her estate got ahold of me and I was off the hook. But that was the second time I had to call every mid level to senior black belt in my aikido organization and tell them someone had died. I was okay till I got Sensei and his wife on the phone. She didn’t make it through my first sentence and then I just finally broke down and started crying at my desk. Miserable business all around. Every so often I’ll be at an academic conference and bump into someone and they haven’t heard and I tell them. Or I’m on an assignment and working with a Canadian senior officer and have to tell them as well.

  56. 56.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): It didn’t. GEN Petraeus was allowed to plead down the charges. He had to surrender/not contest being stripped of his clearances and I think there was a fine. I think SecDef put the Judge Advocate on notice more about the adultery and fraternization stuff, which the civilian courts won’t touch, but is a UCMJ violation.

  57. 57.

    SFAW

    October 17, 2016 at 10:00 pm

    @efgoldman:

    to root for Theo’s team or Tito’s team.

    Tito? Since when? I mean, I call him that (sometimes) because I’m an annoying asshole, but is that what Sox fans called him too? (Wiki apparently says yes?)

    But I remember the real Tito when he played for the Indians, had his card, things like that. Not that I’m old or anything.

  58. 58.

    Petgoat

    October 17, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    The owner of the Cubs is a huge Trump supporter, right? I don’t care how long it’s been, I hope they lose.

  59. 59.

    JR in WV

    October 17, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Hard to beat Ben and Jerry’s Chunky Monkey, just ahead of Cherry Garcia! Wife was complaining that I finished off the Chunky Monkey the other night at 2 am, which I did. But someone has to have the last scoop. So I did.

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 17, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    @JR in WV: Please stop implicating the blog in any potential future interfamilial litigation…

  61. 61.

    ellie

    October 17, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    Dodgers all the way! But I like the idea of the Cubs finally winning after all these years. But I don’t want them to win on the back of my most favorite team ever. I am just going to see what happens.

  62. 62.

    JR in WV

    October 17, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant):

    Hang in there. It will get better. They’re really a lot better about that work than in even the recent past. Friend had serious surgery on her neck a few years ago down in the Raleigh area, total success.

    Hoping for the best outcome for you!

  63. 63.

    JR in WV

    October 17, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    @Petgoat:

    Whoa, I knew the family was conservative, but didn’t know they were still holding Trump up as worth leadership of the nation.

    A shame! I’m used to rooting against a team, now I know which one.

  64. 64.

    JR in WV

    October 17, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    OK ;-)

  65. 65.

    SFAW

    October 17, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Gus Triandos! I haven’t heard that name in something like 50 years.

    Bob Nichols and Ray May, I remember them doing Bert and Harry Piels.
    To be more serious: I didn’t realize Nichols and May did commercials. I was/am a little young to have heard them in their heyday, but their stuff was pretty funny. (Bob and Ray’s was, too, of course, but in a different way. Of course, we won’t talk about Chris Elliott.)

  66. 66.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @efgoldman

    Classic Nichols & May.

    Believe the clip is from an Ed Sullivan Show appearance. What show today would give comedians 10 minutes to do a sketch?

  67. 67.

    M. Bouffant

    October 17, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @Petgoat: Good point. Curse of the Ricketts!

    Also:

    Whenever the Dodgers roll into the Chicago to play the Cubs (or the White Sox, sometimes), they have typically stayed at the Trump International Hotel and Tower. However, when the Boys in Blue visited the Cubs back in May, there was one team member to who decided to find his own accommodations.

    “I didn’t stay there,” first baseman Adrian Gonzalez told the Inland Valley Bulletin. “I had my reasons.”

    Go Dodgers!!

  68. 68.

    -ly Ballou

    October 17, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    @SFAW:

    Bob Nichols and Ray May, I remember them doing Bert and Harry Piels.

    Sound like a couple of fine fellows. I’ll have to check them out.

    Cleveland wins again. Jays are in an awfully big hole now.

  69. 69.

    burnspbesq

    October 18, 2016 at 12:46 am

    Y’all are conflating two great comedy teams: Bob (Elliott) and Ray (Goulding) and Mike Nichols and Elaine May.

  70. 70.

    mere mortal

    October 18, 2016 at 11:00 am

    Unless and until the Cubs invite Bartman to throw an opening pitch in front of a wildly cheering home crowd, I hope they keep losing for another hundred years.

    I’ll call it the curse of the scapegoat.

  71. 71.

    Vlad

    October 18, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    I’m for the Jays, because they have the most ex-Pirates, then for anybody but the Cubs.

  72. 72.

    Big Picture Pathologist

    October 18, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    Would be happy if Chief Wahoo did not win a championship.

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