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You are here: Home / Elections / Local Races 2018 and earlier / Mouthy Idiots Open Thread: More Wingnut Schadenfreude, Masshole Edition

Mouthy Idiots Open Thread: More Wingnut Schadenfreude, Masshole Edition

by Anne Laurie|  October 21, 201611:01 pm| 146 Comments

This post is in: Local Races 2018 and earlier, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Sports, Assholes

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Curt Schilling intends to run against Elizabeth Warren for US Senate seat https://t.co/LHATZlKsLn

— Guardian news (@guardiannews) October 18, 2016

That sound you hear is Charlie Baker crushing a can of soda in his hand. https://t.co/cMh3X5azis

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) October 18, 2016

You know who is very happy about this?@elizabethforma https://t.co/be4aosBvMu

— Totes Spongeworthy (@Johngcole) October 19, 2016

Because Curt Shilling is not a smart person, this happened tonight:

From the Crooks & Liars link:

… Schilling continued, “”I would like to ask you something as a person who is practicing the Jewish faith and have since you were young. I don’t understand, maybe this is the amateur, non-politician in me, I don’t understand how people of Jewish faith can back the Democratic party which over the last 50 years have been so clearly anti Israel. so clearly anti-Jewish, Israel.”

He went on, “That I don’t know what else would be done, said, or happen for people to understand that they don’t — the Democratic party is alive with Israel, only because we have agreements in place to make them have to be.”

Tapper very coolly said, “Well, I don’t speak for Jews. I would imagine, just to try to answer your question. One of the reason Jews are Democrats has more to do for social welfare programs and that sort of thing.”

Jake repeated, “Again, I don’t speak for Jews.”

“I know you don’t. I just always find it a great conversation for somebody of your faith to — because I want to understand the reason behind some of those things so i appreciate that.”…

And theeeeennnn, on MSNBC’s Hardball…. per Media Matters‘ partial transcription:

CURT SCHILLING: Well, I mean Chris, I’m apparently an anti-semite now, because I had the gall and the audacity to ask someone of the Jewish faith why or how they believe people of the Jewish faith vote Democrat! I mean, god forbid I listen to someone of the faith, rather than the media, who clearly are not biased and don’t have an agenda. I mean, that to me is just common sense.

I don’t want — I don’t need Chris Matthews to tell me why people of Jewish faith vote the way they do, I want to ask someone of the faith. To me, that’s much more relevant. I think that — and I don’t have a problem asking people questions like that, because I’m not trying to be offensive or racist. I’m clearly curious, because I’ve read my history. I understand my history, that, you know, that this country feels so anti-Israel in the last 15 years, more so than at any point in my life and I can’t figure that out.

MATTHEWS: Well, that’s a legitimate debate we’re all going to have. By the way, left, right on Israel, left, right on Bibi Netanyahu is a popular argument anywhere in the country, by the way. Especially in Israel they argue about that stuff, which is a great thing over there.

But the problem is, people will say is, and I’ll say it, you can’t ask a person of a religious faith or a race to speak for that religious group and to ask them to sort of account for it. You ask them to account for it as an individual.

SCHILLING: No, you can. Chris —

MATTHEWS: Go ahead.

SCHILLING: Not true. Liberals do it with Christians all the time. Liberals do it with Christians all the time, and I’m not going to play the victim game because I’m a white male Christian, which apparently makes me a racist to anybody, that as long as — if I don’t speak out in favor of whatever it is they want me to speak out of…

Gosh, and we didn’t even get the opportunity to watch Senator Professor Elizabeth Warren kick his broad fishbelly-white arse from Williamston to Provincetown.

Also, I’m against any action that makes Chickenshit Charlie Baker happy, which this will. Not that Charlie doesn’t need whatever good news he can garner, right now:

Gov Baker on @SenWarren call for him to distance himself from Trump: I don't know how much farther away I can get away from the guy #mapoli

— Gintautas Dumcius (@gintautasd) October 20, 2016

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  1. 1.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    I wish a Schilling would.

    That bloody sock is only gonna get you a few thousand votes at this point, asshole.

  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    I am worried about whatever gave Cole his new Twitter name.

  3. 3.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Maybe he got laid? One can extrapolate…..

  4. 4.

    Betsy

    October 21, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Things are in full “swing”here. Everyone I know (it seems like) is canvassing or distributing slate cards. I’m waiting on a volunteer from out of state who is supposed to lodge with me for the next two weeks.

  5. 5.

    Chris

    October 21, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    Liberals do it with Christians all the time.

    Liberals never do this with Christians. Conservatives choose to interpret every argument with them as an argument with Christians (so they can feel properly persecuted and victimized), and then forget that the rest of the world isn’t actually following their script.

  6. 6.

    hovercraft

    October 21, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    @ Anne Laurie
    Here is the Tweety clip if you want to put it up top

  7. 7.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    @Betsy: Wow, that’s some commitment. Do you get paid anything for that?

  8. 8.

    Ken

    October 21, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    Shouldn’t Schilling run in Rhode Island? He might get some benefit from the sunk costs fallacy.

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    Gack! Paul Ryan talking about the Federalist Papers. He doesn’t understand them. Fucknut.

  10. 10.

    retiredeng

    October 21, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    As a resident of Massachusetts I can assure you all that we have more than our fair share of blithering idiots following Trump. Several family members actually.

  11. 11.

    Shalimar

    October 21, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    I’m not sure it is the support for Trump that will kill Schilling’s campaign as much as the specific statement that his 9 year old daughter’s friends are attractive to him. Curt is horribly creepy forever now.

  12. 12.

    Tenar Darell

    October 21, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    /rant That f*cker can go f*ck himself. Answer for your own freakin’ faith, you sh*t! Really, that bloody sock-puppet gets no credit from me anymore for helping to win the series. Done. If I could sit shiva for a non-relative, I would. That manipulative, business moving, bankrupt, bigot supporting, anti-semite is dead to me. /end rant

  13. 13.

    hovercraft

    October 21, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    @redshirt:
    This is the mistake these people keep making, just because you have rabid fans, does not mean there are enough of them to win an election. Robert Costa keeps saying that Trump Tower believes that the ‘huge’ crowds he has, and Hillary’s small crowds mean that he will win.
    I posted this in a thread earlier today.

    From Krugman’s Why Hillary Wins
    This was a comment on The Shrill Ones post, via GOS
    Dana in Santa Monica you complete me:

    Pundits and Trump supporters…have one thing in common – their scorn of Ms Clinton and declaration that she’s a horrible candidate who is winning by default or treachery. These people have failed to understand until now that Ms Clinton’s unwavering base of support is the silent majority. We women of a certain age love and admire her. We know she understands us and our issues and we passionately appreciate everything she’s done to claw her place at the top. But we Hillary diehards – we don’t show up at large rallies – we have jobs and kids and aging parents. And we don’t troll people on Facebook and Twitter – we are way too busy trying to set an example for our kids to do that. So it’s easy to dismiss us as invisible since we are 40 . But where you will find us is grinding it out at phone banks and canvassing our neighborhoods – doing the heavy lifting and drudgery that it takes to get a candidate elected. Like Ms Clinton herself we are all substance and no flash. We’ve had disgusting trump like bosses grope us, we’ve been called nasty or worse for asserting ourselves and yet we persevere. It’s a thrilling time to be a woman as we will single handedly save this country from Trump and make sure the next President is one of the most qualified and brilliant people to ever hold the office. I am so proud to be with her.

    Trump Tower and Schilling may think they are the silent majority, but they are not, we are.

  14. 14.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    It would probably amaze him to know that not only are there US Democrats who are harshly critical of the government of Israel, there are Israelis, in Israel, who are harshly critical of the government of Israel. There are lots of them!

    It must be interesting having such a limited amount of knowledge and such a narrow mind. You’d be walking around in a constant state of amazement. Well, you would if any new information ever got in.

  15. 15.

    Anne Laurie

    October 21, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    @hovercraft: Thanks, but it wouldn’t embed for me. People care that much, they can make the effor to click over, right?

  16. 16.

    Ken

    October 21, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Sure, if he wants baseballs thru his campaign headquarters windows.

    See? Free publicity! Just like Trump’s campaign.

  17. 17.

    Ken

    October 21, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Federalist Papers, Federalist Society, whatever.

  18. 18.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @efgoldman:

    the Fighting Fashion Nightmares

    Okay you surely meant that as a euphemistic name for some sportsball club you dislike, but I’m going to pretend that it’s the actual name of a team because I prefer to imagine that.

  19. 19.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @Ken: The Federalist Society has everything fucking backwards.

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Oregon. Google their gear.

  21. 21.

    NickM

    October 21, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    Trump is becoming a
    loser.

    The crowds are dwindling, no one thinks he’s a genius, he’s under fire from all sides and he can’t handle it. I would think that flop sweat is going to drive his voters and undecideds away. At least I hope. At the same time, reading the new Hitler biography the NYT reviewed a couple weeks ago, I learned that in December 1932 Hitler was contemplating suicide and the liberal papers and thinkers in Germany were crowing that the Nazi fever had passed. Not two months later they’d seized power. so I guess one should never be complacent.

  22. 22.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Good Lord.

    I tried, but I seem to have mistakenly typed “Tron” when I Googled.

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Exactly. Hence the name.

  24. 24.

    Shalimar

    October 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: He’s referring to the Oregon Ducks, a reference to Nike designing them a variety of different hideous uniforms each season because they’re the hometown team.

  25. 25.

    Anne Laurie

    October 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @redshirt:

    I wish a Schilling would.

    Serious question, for any gamers here: I’ve been told that Schilling’s firm “ruined” a perfectly good single-player (Kingdoms of Amalur) because they wanted to throw all available money & talent down the next-hot-MMORPG sinkhole. My question: How does the balance tip between the grudge-holding KoA fans versus the general “anti SJW” Gamergate goonbois?

    I know that GG dudebros have lots of time on their hands, but does a sports hero in a local race inspire them sufficiently to offset a rumored, deeply committed Kingdom of Amalur fanbase with a particular grievance?

    I’m a Masshole, and Irish-American — the deep examination of grievance microclimes is catnip to me.

  26. 26.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:35 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My eyes are opened.

    Or will be when I recover from fluorescence blindness.

  27. 27.

    Lyrebird

    October 21, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    @hovercraft: Thanks, I’m glad I signed on (so to speak) and read that.

    And I just realized I just missed a possible Tim Kaine rally, but I have a little one to care for, a jerb, a house with… fewer problems than John Cole’s house (knock wood), and it just didn’t happen.

    Peace to all readers & contributors!

  28. 28.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    October 21, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hamilton documentary? I’m pretty sure Chimpy McFlightsuit was reciting memorized lines and had no idea what the words he was saying actually meant.

  29. 29.

    AnotherBruce

    October 21, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    @efgoldman: I know the Ducks are bad, but this is the first time I’ve seen them play. They are really bad. There defense is not. I wonder if they say ole’ every time a runner goes past them?

  30. 30.

    JanieM

    October 21, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    I’m not a political junkie like some people here; this is just my gut reaction. But I lived in Mass. for 12 years at different times in my life, and I’ve spent 20-25% of my time there for the past twenty years. It seems to me that Curt Schilling will get stomped as flat as a pancake in this race based on his stupidity alone.

    And anyhow, he says he’s going to run against Warren, has he never heard of primaries? Or is there no Mass. Republican who will challenge him for the privilege?

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:40 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: My apologies.

    @Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA: Yes, the documentary. The Paul Ryan joint pissed me off more than GWB. GWB is the past. Ryan is still a player.

  32. 32.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I’m not a gamer, but I can guess they don’t care that Curt Schillinged an entire video game company because he sucks.

    Rather, he likes video games and Men’s Rights and FUCK LIBERALS AMIRITE????!

    Bloody Sock 2018

  33. 33.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 21, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    @JanieM: I was trying to figure out if Barro’s tweet about Charlie Baker meant that Baker had been planning on running against Warren

  34. 34.

    catclub

    October 21, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Another tack to take:

    Why not say that Jews are US citizens and they vote on what they see as best for the United States. For them that means voting for the Democrats. And that Technically, Israel is not part of the United States.

  35. 35.

    mike in dc

    October 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    Ah, grassroots idiocracy at work.

  36. 36.

    JanieM

    October 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, I wasn’t clear on that either.

  37. 37.

    Shalimar

    October 21, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I’m not sure how 38 Studios ruined Kingdoms of Amalur. They bought a successful studio that was already working on the game, and it was released 2 years later. Development for the MMO of Schilling’s dreams was always done by a separate group of developers and the one shouldn’t have affected the other.

    Amalur was a good game and sold fairly well, but not nearly at the level 38 Studios needed to finish development of the MMO. If anything, the underwhelming sales for Amalur didn’t end up justifying the original decision to buy Big Huge Games and the MMO would have been better off financially if it had been their only project.

  38. 38.

    Kubrick's Rube

    October 21, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    Contra Matthews, I don’t really have a problem with Schilling asking someone of a group to explain prevalent thoughts within that group. And as a Jew I think it would be interesting to try to explain it all to Schilling; there is a lot of ground to cover with someone so wrong-headed*. The problem with his question was that it wasn’t a question at all; it was an accusation. Schilling presented his views of the two parties and their relationship to Israel as fact and then demanded that American Jewry explain ourselves. He left no room to reject his premises or disagree with his framing; he was trying to shame us. That’s what I find offensive.

    *The first thing I’d ask is whether, if an American disagreeing with the current Israeli government is anti-Israel, is an Israeli (or Brit or Australian or whoever) disagreeing with the Obama administration anti-American?

  39. 39.

    Cacti

    October 21, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @Chris:

    Liberals never do this with Christians. Conservatives choose to interpret every argument with them as an argument with Christians (so they can feel properly persecuted and victimized), and then forget that the rest of the world isn’t actually following their script.

    Evangelicals presume to speak for all Christians, because anybody who disagrees with them isn’t a real Christian anyway.

  40. 40.

    The Pale Scot

    October 21, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    Assume this comment has that pic of Picard and Ricker facepalming

    Angry white Texas students storm out of class after teacher says humans emerged from Africa

    A group of white students walked out of a college classroom Tuesday after an anthropology professor said all humans were descended from Africa

    ‘Cause fossils were put there by Satan, And genetics are the work liberal scientists

    Why are these people in college?

  41. 41.

    jl

    October 21, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    OK, great, got it. I now expect Colin Kaepernick and Richard Sherman and, I dunno, Madison Bumgarner, to explain and justify Curt Schilling as a potential great statesmen and representative of the male professional athlete viewpoint. I mean, they are all male professional athletes, right? Must all think alike and agree on everything and operate from same viewpoint, huh?

    Edit: I think the the quoted exchange from from Matthews indicates Schilling is a classic white bigot, whether he is consciously antisemitic I have no clue. Maybe not as toxic as Trump and Trumpers, but I’d rather not find out, and hope Schilling decides not to run for anything.

  42. 42.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @catclub: There are a million sensible answers to his patently nonsensical question. I was just addressing one aspect, if he’s so amazed that Jewish people in the US would be critical of the policies of the government of Israel, presumably he’d be simply astonished to hear that many Jewish people who are citizens of Israel are just as critical of it, more critical in some cases in fact. When guys like him spout “How dare you be critical of Israel?” I always think well, you’d be awfully surprised if you went to Israel, because lots of people there are critical of it.

  43. 43.

    Anne Laurie

    October 21, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I was trying to figure out if Barro’s tweet about Charlie Baker meant that Baker had been planning on running against Warren

    Not sure. But Charlie is a Repub governor in a heavily Democratic state, and when the GOP goobers get angried up by a moron like Curt Shilling, it reminds all us sane Dem people how much we hate Repubs in general. Chickenshit Charlie likes keeping his options open, and being ‘state head of the dumbest RWNJs south of LePage and north of McCrory’ is… not an attractive look, for a guy with larger ambitions.

  44. 44.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    Former Phillies and Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, who made more than $115 million in a 20-year career, reportedly has a net worth of only $1 million and is being sued by the state of Rhode Island over a $75 million loan to his bankrupt 38 Studios video game company.

    You blow $115 million you made, borrow $75 million, keep $1 million for yourself in the mattress. Next, run against Elizabeth Warren. It’s all becoming clear. You’re a RWNJ.

    ETA: $92, 613 for the sock.

  45. 45.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @catclub: Because people don’t think all that shit out. It was live. Schilling was out there.

  46. 46.

    Cckids

    October 21, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    I tried, but I seem to have mistakenly typed “Tron” when I Googled.

    Personally, I think Oregon’s uniforms tonight make them look like they are auditioning for the next Lego Movie.

  47. 47.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    @catclub: I was struck when one of the first background pictures of Palin after she had been selected for VP – I’d never heard of her – was her in her office with a US and Israeli flag behind her desk.

    Why the heck would the Governor of Alaska have the Israeli flag in her office?

  48. 48.

    planetpundit

    October 21, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    `Question for any gamers; anyone else buy and d/l Civ VI thi sweek?…..reax? I am not (h/t Alec baldwin) entertained. Great graphics and sych; requires the gaming ability of a gimpy ferret. Waste of good code and my money.

  49. 49.

    redshirt

    October 21, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @Prescott Cactus: You can see why we need to run government like a business.

  50. 50.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    October 21, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    @Cckids: Good lord there are Lego movies?

    I seem to be exclaiming in surprise a lot so I think I’ll call it a night. This modern world is too rich for my blood, apologies to Dan Perkins.

  51. 51.

    Anne Laurie

    October 21, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    @The Pale Scot:

    Why are these people in college?

    Because they need a college degree to get a job, even as a Starbucks barista.

    But to be fair, if you read the linked article, the professor seems to have brought #BLM politics into a Latin American anthropology class. It can certainly be argued that he had the right to do so, and even that an awareness of current American racial politics is important to a proper understanding of Mayan anthropology — but it’s not as though the kids who walked out were actually protesting human evolution.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if the university felt the need to call the professor out for this, actually. Then it becomes a big honkin’ ‘my freedom vs yours’ — which is presumably what he intended.

  52. 52.

    Shalimar

    October 21, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    @planetpundit: 2 DLCs and another $40 later and it will be a great game. See also Civ V.

    Just give them time. They have a lot of practice in screwing customers out of as much money as possible.

    edited to add: No, I haven’t bought Civ VI. I learned my lesson last time. Civ V is really good now. I will play it if I want Civ.

  53. 53.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Scottsdale Community College, The Fighting Artichokes.

    It’s a good story

  54. 54.

    Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA

    October 21, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, Paul Ryan’s presence was pretty jarring. I went from Hamilton fangirling to “I wanna punch that guy in the neck” back to fangirling.

    Still, I enjoyed it overall.

  55. 55.

    jl

    October 22, 2016 at 12:01 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Is Schilling aware that, for hundreds of years, there have been white men deeply critical of official policies of the United States federal government? Yet, for hundreds of years, the United States federal government has been run almost exclusively by white men!

    Amazing, but true. I’ve kind of wrapped my head around that as best I could. I could try to explain it to Curt.

  56. 56.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:03 am

    w00f

    Obama fires press secretary. (link)

  57. 57.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:04 am

    @redshirt: If he could get $92K for more than one sock, He’d hook himself to a dialysis machine. Me thinks that was via his bankruptcy auction.

  58. 58.

    Geoduck

    October 22, 2016 at 12:05 am

    Re: Oregon uniforms. That’s not actually as bad as some of stuff they’ve cycled through in recent years. At least they got rid of the “feathery wing” motif they had going for a while.

  59. 59.

    TriassicSands

    October 22, 2016 at 12:05 am

    Jake Tapper, shitty journalist, doesn’t vote in presidential elections and doesn’t support either party. Does that mean he doesn’t vote at all? If so, he’s not only a lousy journalist, he’s a lousy citizen. The idea that you can’t be a good journalist unless you abstain from involvement in voting — the most important civic responsibility we have as citizens — is crazy.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:05 am

    @Anne Laurie: It is completely appropriate for an anthro prof to mention that humans began in Africa. It is an accepted fact in the prof’s field of study.

  61. 61.

    Cckids

    October 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Oh, watch The Lego Movie. Funny as hell.

    Also, their Star Wars Lego short films are snarky and laugh out loud fun, if you’re a SW fan.

  62. 62.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    October 22, 2016 at 12:07 am

    He Night Owls….anybody have any reading suggestions? I just finished Cixin Liu’s Remembrance of Earth’s Past Trilogy and was so absorbed, I’m having a hard time finding a good follow-up. (If you haven’t heard of it or read it yet, and like science fiction, it’s very compelling and thought-provoking. I couldn’t put it down.)

    What are y’all reading?

  63. 63.

    TriassicSands

    October 22, 2016 at 12:10 am

    @The Pale Scot:

    Why are these people in college?

    For the same reason most people are in college today — to get a credential so they can earn more money. It certainly isn’t to get a real education.

  64. 64.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:10 am

    Dr Kelly Sennholz ‏@MtnMD Oct 20

    Judge Orders Anti-Obama Filmmaker D’Souza Receive Psychological Counseling (link)

    0 replies 39 retweets 43 likes

  65. 65.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:11 am

    @TriassicSands: For a long time, there was a theory that career military should not vote. I bought into it in 1988. In Britain, many civil servants don’t vote. Applying it to journalists is not a reach.

  66. 66.

    Anoniminous

    October 22, 2016 at 12:12 am

    @efgoldman:

    Some of the class learned other members of their class are loons. Always good to know who in one’s peer group is a loon.

  67. 67.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:13 am

    @Cckids: Lego’s strategically placed in carpet or stairways can also make a hysterical film for children, of their parents expansive use of language capabilities.

  68. 68.

    gf120581

    October 22, 2016 at 12:13 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: That sounds like something that should have been done long ago.

    Also, never forget that his full title is “Convicted Felon Dinesh D’Souza.” He’s earned it.

  69. 69.

    TriassicSands

    October 22, 2016 at 12:14 am

    @Prescott Cactus:

    Kurt comes from the Donald J. Trump school of successful business people. Ideally, Kurt will get back on his feet by taking advantage of some government program that, should he get into office, he would proceed to try to eliminate.

  70. 70.

    smintheus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:15 am

    Schilling is basically Ring Lardner’s character Jack Keefe, if slightly nastier:

    “You know me Al, I just look for a good conversation with the people I meat in resterrants and such. And I think one of the best conversation starters is to ask ’em why the Jews keep throwing away their votes that way. But I guess it makes me in the wrong because I just want to understand.”

  71. 71.

    LurkerExtraordinaire

    October 22, 2016 at 12:15 am

    So he gets upset when “liberals” expect white male Christians to speak up for their entire demo, but guys like him will demand random Muslims speak for assholes in faraway places doing shitting things and for their entire religion. Without blinking an eye.

    Irony, she is dead, no?

  72. 72.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 12:16 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: sweet schadenfreude.

  73. 73.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:16 am

    Bruce Bartlett ‏@BruceBartlett

    Pro-Trump evangelicals are scum.

    0 replies 36 retweets 70 likes

  74. 74.

    seaboogie

    October 22, 2016 at 12:16 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I assume he’s gone on match.com or somesuch, and is bragging that he has a blog, and a twitter following…

  75. 75.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 12:18 am

    Why aren’t the dems hitting back at the rethugs on the ‘rigging’ lies by citing the many voting restrictions the thugs place on their own citizens and which are always ruled illegal by various courts?

  76. 76.

    mike in dc

    October 22, 2016 at 12:20 am

    @LurkerExtraordinaire:

    The only consistency is that he is never wrong and “they” are never right. That is modern conservatism/wingnuttery in a nutshell.

  77. 77.

    The Moar You Know

    October 22, 2016 at 12:22 am

    On the one hand, Schlling’s an idiot and an asshole, but on the other he’s being an idiot and asshole to Jake Tapper.

  78. 78.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:22 am

    @TriassicSands: Curt will lobby as a candidate to close the very program that would help himself and find it’s closed after the election. Great athlete, but sometimes the heart only pumps blood so high with any pressure. He’s probably got great tonsils, but above there, it grey mush.

  79. 79.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:23 am

    @amk: Because we are concentrating on winning the election. Do you want to win or do you want a moral victory?

  80. 80.

    Anne Laurie

    October 22, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yeah, but it wasn’t a “mention”. Again, if you RTFA:

    Students said McGee began his lesson by telling students to pay attention because they were about to have a discussion on race. He then charted the origins of the Black Lives Matter movement, which protests police brutality, and concluded his lesson by noting that all modern humans comes from Africa…

    Professor McGee wanted to start a Socratic dialog on US racial politics. Some of the kids felt that wasn’t the course they’d signed up for. While in theory I applaud the professor’s honesty, I can simultaneously think he blindsided a bunch of kids because he wanted to showboat his Extremely Cutting-Edge Progressivism:

    … Lundy said she was pretty sure it was the talk of Black Lives Matter that primed students to argue and leave, even though “[McGee] wasn’t picking sides or anything — he kept reiterating that.” The African descent component was probably “the straw that broke the camel’s back,” she said…

    McGee said he himself didn’t witness any outright dissent but because the class is so large, “it is possible that someone didn’t like the topic and walked out.”…

    If it’s that big a class, he’s presumably popular enough he figures it’s worth the blowback.

    But it seems to be more ‘kids don’t want a lecture on #BLM‘ than ‘dumb rednecks don’t understand evolution har har har.’ You can still argue the kids should know better, but it’s not the same argument.

  81. 81.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why would talking about the rethugs’ anti-democratic moves would be a losing proposition? Especially, when the other side is all riled up with all the 24×7 it’s riggged!!! lies. Talking about their thugly tactics might rile up the dem base for a change.

  82. 82.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:29 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Old age isn’t a war, it’s a massacre. Elections should and can be the same.

  83. 83.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:29 am

    @efgoldman: amk also wants all alleged trolls banned. I disagree with amk’s view. I accept Cole’s rules. They would be very close to mine if I had a blog.

  84. 84.

    dogwood

    October 22, 2016 at 12:30 am

    @amk:
    Do you really think headlines proclaiming that both sides claim election rigging would be helpful right now?

  85. 85.

    lgerard

    October 22, 2016 at 12:30 am

    @smintheus: @smintheus:

    Schilling is basically Ring Lardner’s character Jack Keefe, if slightly nastier:

    I love that book

  86. 86.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:31 am

    @Anne Laurie: W’vevs.

  87. 87.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:33 am

    Shorter Schilling: “Jake, as a Jew, you attend all secret meetings — tell me, why is Jewish controlled media and the internationalist banks rigging the election for the Democrats?”

  88. 88.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 12:34 am

    @dogwood:
    Well, doing nothing only reinforces their lies. Pointing out the truth might help with the indies.

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Bore.

  89. 89.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:36 am

    Moar Schilling: “Jake, as a Jew, why did the Jews kill Jesus?”

  90. 90.

    smintheus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @lgerard: One of my earliest faves as a kid.

  91. 91.

    redshirt

    October 22, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @amk: You can’t deny your history of calling for bannings.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @The Pale Scot:

    Why are these people in college?

    So they can say they went somewhere to learn nothing. It’s a status thing. I mean how would it sound if they said they didn’t go to college? They’d sound stupid and they can’t have that. They don’t mind actually being stupid though.

  93. 93.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @TriassicSands

    On the contrary, that was the norm, the expectation and the tradition for many a decade.

  94. 94.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:39 am

    @Prescott Cactus: I would bet anything that you could put up that my parents never voted for a GOPer. No proof that you are wrong exists, but I can’t prove it. It doesn’t mean you aren’t a dipshit for your statement. Or do you have proof?

  95. 95.

    Ian

    October 22, 2016 at 12:40 am

    Fuck that guy. One of the basis of Jewish faith is looking out for the common good.

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 12:41 am

    @lgerard

    And Trump is Thurber’s Jack Smurch incarnate.

  97. 97.

    GregB

    October 22, 2016 at 12:41 am

    I am convinced that what many mistook for blood on Schillings ankle was merely shit on his heel.

  98. 98.

    redshirt

    October 22, 2016 at 12:42 am

    Go Cleveland!

  99. 99.

    TS

    October 22, 2016 at 12:42 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: Link is from July 2015

  100. 100.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:42 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: @redshirt: : Just saying.

  101. 101.

    Ruckus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:44 am

    @jl:
    You’d have to lose at least half of your brain cells to be able to explain it so he’d understand. And you still be smarter than him by at least 3:1

  102. 102.

    Peale

    October 22, 2016 at 12:45 am

    @Anne Laurie: yeah. Put that way, I might have excused myself, too. Not that it isn’t important. But trying to shed light on a current topic by walking through 200,000 years of human origins seems to be way too much meander, even for anthropology.

  103. 103.

    The Pale Scot

    October 22, 2016 at 12:45 am

    @Anne Laurie: @Anne Laurie:
    I’d like to think it was over discussing USA politics in a Mayan anthro class.

    I have a sort fascination with the evolution disbelieving, literal bible bunch. Polls have put the percentage of people that believe they’re gonna meet Jesus before they die at over 20%, another 20% just think it’s just likely.

    There are well funded organizations that have disproving evolution as their mission statement (Discovery Institute, Answers in Genesis) and others like the Templeton Institute that I consider fellow travelers. Their power base is in places like Texas, you know these people,

    Texas Board of Education Refuses To Allow Professors To Fact-Check Textbooks

    Relying on magical thinking to determine reality and direct social movements is going to be the death of us all. That’s how you get supply side economics and “We’re going to be greeted as liberators”

    Edit: I’d like to think that, but I don’t

  104. 104.

    dogwood

    October 22, 2016 at 12:45 am

    @amk:
    President Obama is setting the tone and killing it on the stump right now. He’s not talking about voter I’d laws because he knows full well that those laws poll very well with voters. I trust that he and Hillary’s team know what they’re doing.

  105. 105.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:46 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Why would I bring your parents up ? Ever ? In what context ?

  106. 106.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Josh Marshall ‏@joshtpm

    Schilling: Jew, explain this for me!

    17 replies 38 retweets 142 likes

    HuffPost Politics ‏@HuffPostPol

    Curt Schilling baffled by Jewish people, asks Jake Tapper to explain

    20 replies 28 retweets 22 likes

    Adam Servianski ‏@AdamSerwer

    Perhaps at his campaign stops Schilling can just pick random representatives of various ethnicities and berate them about not voting GOP

    3 replies 14 retweets 50 likes

    Katherine Miller @katherinemiller

    A balding Curt Schilling in a flannel shirt, holding a pen, and opening with, “You’re Jewish…” is just what we all predicted in 2004.

    32 replies 230 retweets 356 likes

    (((Harry Enten))) ‏@ForecasterEnten

    Look at the Jew meeting we held on Tuesday, we designated Blitzer, not Tapper, as the speaker for the Jews. Get it right Schilling!

    24 replies 77 retweets 447 likes

    NastyWoman ‏@Karoli

    Collector of Nazi memorabilia turns interview with @jaketapper into creepy anti-semitic thing.

    7 replies 38 retweets 32 likes

    He collects Nazi memorabilia! Oh, fuck!

  107. 107.

    LurkerExtraordinaire

    October 22, 2016 at 12:48 am

    @mike in dc: Agreed!

  108. 108.

    redshirt

    October 22, 2016 at 12:49 am

    Who likes R.E.M.?

    I just listened to four old albums in a row and it was sweet. Catapult! Such a unique sound. Warm and hypnotic.

  109. 109.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 12:51 am

    @David Bad Hombres Koch

    Wonder how many different colors of “Make The Fatherland Great Again” caps he has?

  110. 110.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 12:51 am

    @redshirt: It’s a Beautiful day !

  111. 111.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 12:53 am

    @Prescott Cactus

    A favorite band from back yonder, It’s A Beautiful Day was.

  112. 112.

    The Pale Scot

    October 22, 2016 at 12:53 am

    @Prescott Cactus:

    You blow $115 million you made, borrow $75 million, keep $1 million for yourself in the mattress

    Obviously a grad of Drumph U

  113. 113.

    dogwood

    October 22, 2016 at 12:54 am

    @Peale:
    Sounds like the prof was imitating a Rachel Maddow meandering monologue. As someone who supports BLM, I think the prof’s lecture seems contrived. That’s not helpful.

  114. 114.

    David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch

    October 22, 2016 at 12:54 am

    @NotMax: Curt 卐chiling 2018

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 12:57 am

    So, after being soundly thrumped in the election, will Trump try to convince his accountants to declare any contributions he made as tax deductible losses?

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 1:02 am

    @David Bad Hombres Koch

    Kurt’s campaign paraphernalia properly ought to drop the c from his last name.

    Truth in advertising and all that.

  117. 117.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 1:03 am

    @redshirt: Nope, why would I deny it? Yup, I will continue to do so.

  118. 118.

    MCA1

    October 22, 2016 at 1:04 am

    What. A. Douche. Fuck Curt Schilling. He’s Dunning-Krueger in action, combined with arrogance and the entitlement of the famous. I mean, not that aren’t plenty of Hollywood types like that, too, most of whom lean left. But they’re not running for the fucking Senate.

  119. 119.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 22, 2016 at 1:07 am

    @NotMax: Band on a runway. Jets landing and taking off, just meters a way.

  120. 120.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 1:14 am

    @efgoldman: whatev happened to every vote counts and all that GOTV the campaign is pouring their hearts and money into?

  121. 121.

    trollhattan

    October 22, 2016 at 1:15 am

    Standard answer to Schilling should be, “I dunno, why don’t you ask Koufax?”

  122. 122.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 22, 2016 at 1:18 am

    Everyone’s dissing on my alma mater, and I can’t say I blame any of you. I refer to them as the “Fighting Fashion Nightmares”, I’m appalled that they’ve gone the way of Alabama and Texas as a football team associated with a school, and the team this year just blows, sucks, and bites.

    Ducks had it coming for their own arrogance.

  123. 123.

    Tim C.

    October 22, 2016 at 1:20 am

    Jesus Effing Christ. Look, as a liberal I can recognize that there are many different viewpoints on the bible and the message of Jesus. I think some are good and some are evil, but I have the effing awareness to recognize that in *ANY* faith there’s going to be some diversity about what matters more, and what the specific application is. Schilling is apparently so effing stupid, he thinks that kind of rhetorical trick works on someone with an IQ above room temperature.

  124. 124.

    PatrickG

    October 22, 2016 at 1:31 am

    @Lyrebird: given that you invoked Cole, I sincerely hope the wood you knocked wasn’t load-bearing.

  125. 125.

    Mary G

    October 22, 2016 at 1:40 am

    Just for AL: an article about Winnie, the adorable Pomeranian mix who is the Clinton campaign HQ’s resident doggie.

    For those of us who use the volunteer app, her human helped design it and a cartoon version of Winnie greets you when you sign in.

  126. 126.

    Joe Miller

    October 22, 2016 at 1:46 am

    @redshirt: @redshirt: Because in Palin’s warped and demented variety of Christianity Jews will play a very important part in the End Times drama. Those who don’t convert to the Christian faith will be exterminated. The fate of the Jews will therefore be an indication that the final drama is upon the world.

  127. 127.

    Thus Spoke Zorro

    October 22, 2016 at 1:46 am

    Once you understand that RWNJs can’t possibly conceive that any other sane person, which they undoubtedly think they are, could be anything other than a RWNJ, which of course they undoubtedly think they are not, then you understand how Schilling can say and believe what he does. He honestly doesn’t understand how every person in the country, if not the planet, isn’t an uber-conservative republican. It’s a rather sad form of solipsistic projection.

  128. 128.

    Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck

    October 22, 2016 at 1:52 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:
    Well, I haven’t practiced for years, but the last time I was at a cabal meeting the general sentiment was that electing Democrats would promote miscegenation, and bring about the downfall of the white Christian race. Of course, that was just the working tactic. Our master Satan doesn’t care HOW we bring about that downfall, just that it happens.

    …and now the sad non-snark statement: A double digit percentage of US citizens believe that what I just said is the answer to Schilling’s question.

  129. 129.

    amk

    October 22, 2016 at 1:55 am

    @efgoldman:

    Not talking about rwnjs. Not trolling either. It was a legit question. If you see it as trolling, it’s your problem, not mine.

  130. 130.

    NotMax

    October 22, 2016 at 2:07 am

    @Prescott Cactus

    Perhaps you’ve never heard them.

  131. 131.

    JR in WV

    October 22, 2016 at 2:18 am

    @srv: Impolite and arrogant?

    Did you Swedes ask Bob Dylan if he wanted to come up to Sweden in the winter?

    Did anyone ask him if he wanted an award for literature? As opposed to music, which is what he does…

    That rude and arrogant thing runs the other way here from some perspectives.

    Hey, Bob, we’re having a party next December 17th, and have a prize for you, the Alburt Nobble Gitar Pickin’ Prize, so why don’t you come to Big Ugly, WV [a real place, look it up] in the crummiest season ever? kthnksbye

  132. 132.

    JR in WV

    October 22, 2016 at 2:22 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:

    Is that the Albert Speer font? What a designer that guy was!!

    ;-)

    Good job on Schilling.

  133. 133.

    Steeplejack

    October 22, 2016 at 2:37 am

    @David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:

    Hey, that’s World War II memorabilia!
    #NeverNazi

  134. 134.

    Sarah, Proud and Tall

    October 22, 2016 at 2:57 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    If you enjoyed Cixin Liu you might enjoy the Steven Baxter Xeelee stories – he tells dozens of stories over the same time line from today to the end of the universe – Alien contacts, galactic wars, humans migrating to and living in other universes and on the inside of stars – all in a similar semi-hard sf style.

  135. 135.

    Robert Sneddon

    October 22, 2016 at 4:58 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: No, civil servants in Britain certainly do vote in large numbers. They just don’t, especially at the higher levels (Parliamentary private secretaries etc.) express their political views in public during our thankfully brief election campaigns. They will still be in place when the guard changes and they have to work with whoever the people choose to put in power.

    A good friend is a civil servant, a mid/upper-ranking manager in the tech side of things in a Government department. He believes right-winger scum like Tony Blair should be swinging from lampposts and will quite happily say so over the dinner table or at the pub, but not at work and not in his position as an employee of the government.

  136. 136.

    Ramalama

    October 22, 2016 at 6:03 am

    @TriassicSands: Yeah! I was actually surprised when I heard him say that.

    Does anyone know if there are other journalists who say they don’t vote for Presidential elections? Which then begs the question, does he vote in off-year elections? Is he taking the purity pledge a bit too far?

  137. 137.

    Joel

    October 22, 2016 at 6:56 am

    Curt Schilling has left a massive paper trail of derp over the internet. I’m assuming that has been archived for posterity.

  138. 138.

    Joel

    October 22, 2016 at 7:32 am

    @JR in WV: Stockholm is quite mild in the winter.

    And the literature prize has a noble history of rejection; just ask Jean Paul Sartre.

  139. 139.

    evodevo

    October 22, 2016 at 7:50 am

    @The Pale Scot: You don’t know Texas education, do you! There is an intermittent battle on the state education board to adopt Creationist science textbooks for the public school system (and revisionist Amurrican history as well), as well as include Creationism in the science curriculum. Some years they succeed and some they are reversed. The main problem is, that since the Texas system is huge, textbook makers find it economically feasible to accommodate their tastes in antiscience in ALL the texts they market to the ENTIRE country, instead of just printing a “texas” version for them and real science for the rest of us. This has been going on for 20 years.

  140. 140.

    Princess

    October 22, 2016 at 8:11 am

    @Joel: Mild is relative, but it is certainly very, very dark.

  141. 141.

    rikyrah

    October 22, 2016 at 8:39 am

    @hovercraft:
    I love that remark, because I believe it to be true.

  142. 142.

    Matt

    October 22, 2016 at 8:57 am

    Liberals do it with Christians all the time, and I’m not going to play the victim game because I’m a white male Christian, which apparently makes me a racist to anybody, that as long as — if I don’t speak out in favor of whatever it is they want me to speak out of…

    “I’m not going to play the victim game” to “WAAAAAAAA THEY LOOKED AT ME FUNNY JUST CUZ I’M A BIGOT FOR JEEBUS” in literally two sentences. The GOP is attracting such feverishly pathological liars that they can’t even keep a consistent position within the same *utterance*.

  143. 143.

    pacem appellant

    October 22, 2016 at 11:33 am

    @efgoldman: 52-49 final. A win is a win, but man, they almost grasped defeat from the jaws of victory. It’ll be a high note: Thursday will see them chewed alive in the lion’s den.

  144. 144.

    pacem appellant

    October 22, 2016 at 11:37 am

    @amk: My local paper and NPR affiliate have been running articles on how hard it would be to rig a national election. The Clinton campaign, I suspect, knows that to argue this point would get her bogged down in a meaningless skirmish. Better to GOTV, win, and let the rump party riot. The optics of a clean victory are much better than arguing with The Donald over his many, many lies.

  145. 145.

    Another Holocene Human

    October 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm

    @Shalimar: I liked the green metallic ones that looked like trashcan flies. Bzzzzzzzzz.

  146. 146.

    Ian

    October 22, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:
    Not only are there Lego movies, but in the first one Mitt Romney look-alike was the bad guy.

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