Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The words do not have to be perfect.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

I’d try pessimism, but it probably wouldn’t work.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

You can’t love your country only when you win.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Optimism opens the door to great things.

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  6. 6.

    R-Jud

    I became a White Sox fan at a dying friend’s request. He better not haunt me for cheering on the Cubs tonight.

  10. 10.

    Adam L Silverman

    @redshirt: Yep. I got a very politely worded nastygram. I tried to reply and apologize – it honestly didn’t even occur to me – and the email didn’t go through.

  12. 12.

    scav

    @ArchPundit: Many of these threads seem to be random collections of “Waaaaa!” “Day-emn!” or “Can You Believe That!” or something along the lines of Left Hand Shoeless Humbernickle did it better in Ought-Six with his right hand if you believe Grandpa. (The last only in really dull games, to be fair. Good games go nearly all one-word comments, sometimes all slightly out of synch because of different media.

  13. 13.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: That’s BS. It’s a playoff game, you’ve got a real time thread. If someone doesn’t want to know the results, don’t click the thread that’s very clearly about the game.

    Seriously, I can’t watch. What’s the score? Cubs are up big I assume.

  14. 14.

    Adam L Silverman

    @raven: I had posted it in the actual post as they were going into the 8th inning. But I understand why that could upset someone.

  16. 16.

    ArchPundit

    @scav: LOL–I may be down to sigh, shit, yes! in a few minutes given my nerves tonight. I’m on Sling which is slightly slow, but I don’t care if it gets spoiled by that amount of time–Twitter already does that.

  21. 21.

    raven

    All the soccer threads all summer discussed what was going on and, when there was a score, everyone knew it!

  30. 30.

    Comrade Scrutinizer

    That’s as crazy as people who scream “Spoilers!” at people who are discussing movie trailers. Swear to god, there are people who want spoiler warnings for the Wizard of Oz.

  34. 34.

    Poopyman

    Heh! There was a tab over there on the right to a post titled “Love and Happiness”, but when I clicked on it I got a BJ error message “Nothing Found”.

    Sad!

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Poopyman: TaMara bigfooted (bigfeeted?) me and part of it was a Cubs V Dodgers open thread. Since I pulled the last one, I guess she pulled this one. There will be several sarcastic, teasing emails about bigfooting between us.

  41. 41.

    raven

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, I’ve been here a long time and there is a big difference between posing into a thread a giving a score and being in a thread where a game, or set of games, is being played. Before Cole found better things to do there were always long College football threads on Saturday.

  42. 42.

    The Dangerman

    While I’m kinda rooting for the Cubs, Kershaw does a LOT of charity stuff, so I hope it’s at least a good game. Not a good start for Dodgers and I kinda think their bullpen is burnt.

  46. 46.

    raven

    @The Dangerman: MY entire family lives out there and my brother is and insane die-hard Dodger fan. I don’t give him much shit because he drives himself crazy enough.

  47. 47.

    jl

    OK, no scores, but I heard on the news that the Cubs are leading in first downs.
    Edit: oops, no, the Dodgers have some field goals.

    Never mind, What sport is this again?

  50. 50.

    Woodrowfan

    I so want a Cubs-Indians World Series so fans of at least one of those teams will finally get a World Series winner…

  51. 51.

    raven

    Meanwhile this damn Auburn game is out of control with 11 minutes to go and the LSU Ol Miss game is supposed to start in 5 minutes on the same channel.

  59. 59.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Woodrowfan:

    I was hoping for Cubs-Jays (because of my many Canadian connections), but will be happy enough to see Chicago defeat Cleveland. My Braves did it in ’95, the Cubs can do it this year.

  62. 62.

    Gravenstone

    Always love these med commercials. “Don’t use our product if you’re allergic to it.” Gee, ya think?

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    Before Cole found better things to do there were always long College football threads on Saturday.

    Thank goo’ness for This Old House renovation threads, right?

  71. 71.

    Woodrowfan

    @ArchPundit: I prefer the Cubs this time as well, but either way it’s not going to be a fan base that has recent series wins they’re still savoring…

  72. 72.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    I’ll cheerfully take your word for it. Not a football fan so have always kind of skimmed through or past the f-ball threads. Don’t judge me.

  77. 77.

    raven

    @SiubhanDuinne: Not at all, he just seems to have lost interest. The Errs had a huge game today and there wasn’t a peep from him. When I quit drinking I bailed on football for a year for so. It’s not always easy to do something that you associate with booze for so long. That may no be where John is but the blog has certainly changed.

  82. 82.

    jl

    @hueyplong: Yes, for an SF Giants fan, that is measured calm. Some here suspect that I am a spy.. some…. call me traitor. I did live in Los Angeles for a while.

    Edit and I forgot: EVEN YEAR!
    Amazing how often I heard that as an argument that the Giants would win… even after the post All Star bust, even, lo, into their short stint in the playoffs.

  91. 91.

    hueyplong

    @jl: Had the bullpen not blown up in game 4, I fully expected Cueto to win game 5 in Chicago.

    Problem is, the bullpen would have beaten them at one point or another, and it would have been awful for SF’s bullpen to punch LA’s ticket to a World Series.

  92. 92.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Amir Khalid:

    Thanks. I never actually watched it, although it would have been impossible to escape the overhyped coverage, so I was well aware of the narrative arcs. The “who killed J.R.?” cliffhanger was especially notable for sucking up a summer’s worth of oxygen.

  95. 95.

    Hungry Joe

    Sad year for this NL fan who dislikes both the Dodgers (I’m a San Diegan) and the Cubs (1. Owners are right-wing assholes; 2. I dunno — just sick of Cubbie talk). My antipathy for both teams outweighs my disdain for the AL and its DH blasphemy, so I gotta pull (half-heartedly) for the Indians.

  96. 96.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    Right but what I am saying is that the change came way before the house.

    Sobriety, I’m guessing.

    (EDIT: As you pointed out in a comment I had overlooked.)

  97. 97.

    The Dangerman

    @hueyplong: I believe Cueto wins Game 5, too. The Cubs numbers when facing him were terrible.

    The Giants bullpen was approaching performance art; they tied the record for blown 9th inning leads in September.

    ETA: I think it was 6, which is damn hard to do.

  99. 99.

    hovercraft

    @jl:
    My 10 year old has instructed me to record it because it is Sunday, he needs to both sleep in and watch his Giants. They better not lay an egg or he’ll be miserable all day. Go Big Blue!

  100. 100.

    ArchPundit

    @raven: I loved both, but Brickhouse was always the classic. Harry was great until the last few years when he just couldn’t follow the games. He was the Cards announcer in the 1960s until he had that affair with Busch’s wife.

  107. 107.

    SFAW

    @redshirt:

    It wasn’t the weather, it was the HOCR (although that also would have been better-attended had the weather been nicer).

    I think Schilling stands a good chance against my senior Senator. If by “a good chance,” one means “a good chance of getting beaten to a pulp with a bloody sock.”

    Tell us about the Jews, Curt — we all want to hear your valuable insights on that stuff. Especially if you tell us that “work sets you free, baby.”

  109. 109.

    hovercraft

    @redshirt:
    Hey, we don’t cheat, Belichik may have sold his soul to the devil, but we down here are just your regular salt of the earth working stiffs who do our best. Fortunately our best has been at the expense of your demons.

  111. 111.

    Bruuuuce

    And the rich get richer: I just read that if they get to the World Series, it’s possible that Kyle Schwarber will DH in the games at Cleveland. They’ve already activated him from the 60-day DL and he’s playing in the Arizona Fall League to knock the rust off. If he does play this year, it will be something of a medical miracle, given that he went down in the second game of the season with a torn ACL and LCL.

  116. 116.

    Amir Khalid

    @redshirt:
    Dynasty was also popular here, although Falcon Crest and Dallas spin-off Knots Landing were second-tier in the prime-time soap ratings.

    @SiubhanDuinne: It was “Who shot JR?”, actually. JR was seriously but not fatally wounded at the end of season 2. As I recall, the shooter turned out to be Bing Crosby’s daughter.

  117. 117.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    I think you’re right about that. As mentioned, since I’m not really a football fan, I tended to skip, or at least just skim, those threads. I know John is an Eers and Steelers fan, but beyond that I’m not very aware. And I think that when that guy, Rothlensberger or whatever his name is, was charged with sexual assault or something a few seasons back, John kind of soured on the whole thing. But again, I’ve never followed that closely.

  120. 120.

    Hungry Joe

    @redshirt: Please, I beg of you — you have to leave me SOMETHING. It’s the goddam World Series, and the last time I rooted against both teams (Dodgers v. Yankees, late ’70s) I was miserable throughout. And Howard Cosell was announcing for ABC, which pushed the experience into the realm of torture until I remembered I was within range of Vin Scully on the radio.

  121. 121.

    Steve in the ATL

    @raven: he could be pretty funny though. Used to hang out with his daughter in Athens. One of my friends, uh, “dated” her from time to time

  122. 122.

    Adam L Silverman

    @raven: Saw that. Must be a national buy by that PAC and not a local one through the cable/satellite provider.

  131. 131.

    MobiusKlein

    I’m seeing anti hillary commercials and S.F. supervisor ones. Not sure the A.I. is effective.

  133. 133.

    redshirt

    @Amir Khalid:

    Dynasty was also popular here, although Falcon Crest and Dallas spin-off Knots Landing were second-tier in the prime-time soap ratings.

    That’s pretty much what it was like in America too.

    Knots Landing never clicked for me due to the inescapable association with Don Knotts.

  134. 134.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    Yeah, he may have been a jerk in real life, but he gave the greatest fucking call ever when Sid Bream slid home in 1992 NLCS Game 7 against the Pirates. I will never ever forget that call. Nor will several million Braves fans of the day, I imagine.

  137. 137.

    redshirt

    @JanieM: Yeah, but it’s so cold and sterile. And I don’t really care.

    I’m glad Cleveland smoked Toronto too, since it takes a bit of the sting out of their smoking of the Red Sox.

  138. 138.

    Bruuuuce

    @Gravenstone: As a fantasy player, I read Rotoworld daily (even in the offseason), and as a Schwarber owner, the four or five blurbs in quick succession caught my eye. Even if he only DHs in two games in Cleveland, he could be a difference-maker.

  150. 150.

    Adam L Silverman

    @M. Bouffant: That’s like Star Wars: A New Hope. Young man sees family slaughtered, falls in with unorthodox religion, embarks on a holy war and kills almost 300,000 in his initial terrorist strike.

  152. 152.

    Adam L Silverman

    @raven: Okay. I know that Arlington National Cemetery sent them an official letter explaining their error. Wonder whether they were smart enough to pull the ad.

  153. 153.

    Suzanne

    I feel like I was born too late. I missed being able to objectify and pleasure myself to Paul Newman when he was at his hottest. DAMN. So hot.

  155. 155.

    PST

    Sitting in a hotel bar in Indianapolis. There is a high school hockey team here from Chicago, and you can’t get the game in the rooms, so we have a big happy crowd down here. Perfect.

  157. 157.

    James E Powell

    Kershaw very ordinary tonight. Toles error didn’t help. I really wanted a Game 7. Sad.

  158. 158.

    redshirt

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, we should all know by now that WoZ was really a subversive piece on the terrorism of Glinda, The “Good Witch”. She brings Dorothy to Oz, and by doing so kills the Wicked Witch of the East (aka one of her competitors). She immediately sets up a feud between Dorothy and the Wicked Witch of the West by zapping the ruby slippers onto Dorothy’s feet and casting a spell to prevent them from being removed.

    Then she sends (points) Dorothy to Oz, where the Wizard also attempts to use Dorothy for his own ends, but it horribly backfires and he’s forced to flee.

    So by the end of the movie, Dorothy has destroyed all the existing power bases in Oz, except for Glinda’s of course. And then, and only then, does Glinda provide a way for Dorothy to leave Oz, leaving Glinda the unchallenged ruler of Oz.

  178. 178.

    Jay C

    Watching the game on FS1 (DirecTV) as well: saw the Prop 61 ad (irrelevant cause we’re in Western MA) – fortunately missed the Trump crap…

    Excellent job by Hendricks tonight.

  179. 179.

    ArchPundit

    @efgoldman: Not defending them because I think it’s probably more about saying they ran so many units to their donors. Some, okay, many of the SuperPACs are scams to donors. But also, it is a Dodgers game so targeting for California not totally crazy.

  182. 182.

    M. Bouffant

    Wow. That Prop. 61 ad was the first one in the commercial break, too. Not usual placement for a local advert.

    Also got a (different) Prop. 61 ad at the end of the break; might have been local. Maybe the kids in the FS1 control room are not paying attention.

    On the other hand, the local ads should come from the local cable provider, not FS1, & it’s obviously from FS1 if both sat. & cable viewers saw it.

  184. 184.

    Jay C

    Just saw the Clinton-bashing ad. How damn trite…..

    OK: Hendricks pulled.
    Great game, though, my choice for MVP

  186. 186.

    max

    @Adam L Silverman: I always thought the cable/satellite providers tailored the ads to the local audience. I guess I was wrong.

    It depends on the buy. If you buy a national ad from TNT, it goes national. Given that Cali include 3 4 major metros (counting SFO as one) the national ad buy rates may have been cheaper and easier to deploy than buying ads targets to specific areas (i.e. purchasing local or regional ads from various cable providers/TNT). It’s like running a detergent ad. Given that lots of Californians travel as well, getting a better bang for the buck from a national ad also adds the nice bonus of playing to traveling voters.

    Lot of that kind of advertising has been going on this year. Clinton campaign was doing it during the Olympics.

    max
    [‘Cubbies!’]

  187. 187.

    Gravenstone

    I do not want Chapman in this game. At a minimum he’d best be engaged and motivated. Not like his last few appearances

  200. 200.

    Kristine Smith

    There’s an elderly woman in the stands who has been a regular for decades–the camera always focused on her when Harry etc sang the Seventh Inning Stretch. She’s there tonight.

    I wish my Mom could have seen this. She’d be shredding a tissue and praying right now.

  212. 212.

    Bruuuuce

    The crowd at Wrigley is doing Steve Goodman proud. Congrats to the Cubbies, and good luck in the World Series! (Who you gonna call? GoatBUSTERS!)

  213. 213.

    patroclus

    The Cubs have won the Pennant! The Cubs have won the Pennant! The Cubs have won the Pennant!! The Cubs have won the Pennant!

  216. 216.

    raven

    @Bruuuuce: I hate that fucking song.

    Hey hey! Holy Mackerel!
    No doubt about it,
    The Cubs are on their way. (Hey hey!)
    The Cubs are gonna hit today,
    They’re gonna pitch today,
    They’re gonna field today.
    Come what may the Cubs are gonna win today.
    Hey hey! Holy Mackerel!
    No doubt about it,
    The Cubs are on their way.
    They got the hustle.
    They got the bustle.
    The Chicago Cubs have come to play.
    The Chicago Cubs are on their way.

  217. 217.

    SiubhanDuinne

    This Oak Park girl could not be more excited! And OMG, how my grandmother would have relished this moment. I’m not sure there was ever a bigger Cubs fan.

  225. 225.

    redshirt

    @SiubhanDuinne: What’s amazing about droughts like this is there have been many generations of family members who’ve lived through losing. 4? 5 generations? And there’s so many memories and stories associated with the team, even if you’re not a big fan yourself, that it becomes quite emotional to think about.

    Like, how painful it is for me that much of my older family members are freaking Yankee fans. Giants fans too. :(

  227. 227.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @raven:

    One of my good friends is a lifelong Red Sox fan whose dad died the very day Boston won the WS in 2004.

    My mother died in 1975 the day after I was notified I had been hired for a dream job.

    Sweet and bitter, bitter and sweet.

  231. 231.

    patroclus

    @raven: And Mark Grace and Shawon and Dernier and Moreland and Greggie Poo and the Penguin and Kessinger and Charlie Root and even John Paul Stevens!

  233. 233.

    satby

    Aww nice! I’m a born and bred Southsider, but my oldest son is and my dearly departed grandmother was a dedicated Cub fan. She’s smiling tonight somewhere in the stars.

  234. 234.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @redshirt:

    I don’t know, and I suspect the outcome of the game wasn’t uppermost in his mind. Don’t think he really cared — it’s his daughter who is, and was, the Sox fan.

  244. 244.

    patroclus

    This is really a gigantic national story! And, uh, before she moved away, the Cubbies were Hillary’s team!

  247. 247.

    redshirt

    @rikyrah: In Boston we call that “Pitchers and Catchers” aka the day the pitchers and catchers first appear in the Spring. There’s also “Truck Day” when moving trucks take all the stuff from Fenway to Florida. That’s always a great sign that Spring is at hand.

  250. 250.

    patroclus

    The Indians will be tough to beat – and they’ve got their own history working for them too. It’ll be a great Fall Classic in Wrigleyville!

  251. 251.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Soon Enough to Be Andy K Again)

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Leon “The Bull” Durham. Rick Monday.

    Those Cubs from the ’70s and early ’80s don’t come back to me as quickly as the Tigers do, but it’s close. Had the Cubs won the pennant in ’84, I would have gone insane.

  252. 252.

    satby

    And probably the happiest fan in the stars tonight is Steve.
    He passed away just before they took the pennant in 84 too. Used to hang out at Earl’s to watch him and the other folkies play.

  256. 256.

    satby

    @Mnemosyne: like I said, Southsider. And in 1984, humongously pregnant with #2 son, wasn’t really paying attention. Faulty memory.. I must have remembered them getting into the playoffs as winning them.

    And the link was supposed to be to the YouTube of Goodman, but is to the search results. Time for me to go to sleep. Night all.

  257. 257.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Gravenstone: indeed–another can’t miss prospect who missed.

    As I recall, Harry called it “the greatest at bat in Cubs history!” and you know he was never one for hyperbole

  260. 260.

    Mnemosyne

    @satby:

    Goodman covered the whole fan spectrum, because he also wrote this.

    Note: If you knew him, the video might be a little upsetting, because it was filmed a few months (possibly a few weeks) before he died, though he’s still in very good voice and good spirits.

  261. 261.

    AnotherBruce

    @raven: Damn, I remember that song very well, back in the days of radio announcers Vince Lloyd and Lou Boudreau. Who announced for the 69 Cubs and their hard hatted bleacher bums. The 69′ Cubs were great, but Durocher ground them down by not giving rest. And day baseball in August sapped the life out of them.

    I was living in Chicago in 84 when basically the same thing happened. Although they had the best National League record. San Diego got the home field advantage because the networks wanted prime time (night) baseball. They won the first two games easily, had to fly to San Diego and play the next day. San Diego swept them at home.

    Everybody in this group knows about 2003, the Bartman game. So I won’t go into that.

    The strangest thing about tonight’s game was how easy it was. I’m sure I was not alone about waiting for the other shoe to drop, but it never did. I almost jumped out of my skin when Rizzo yelled, we’re going to the world series! Some part of me thought that I would ever hear those words yelled by a Cub. So awesome!

  262. 262.

    jackmac

    White Sox fan here who was at tonight’s Cubs-Dodgers game. Fun game to watch, that Cubs team seems like a bunch of likeable, decent guys and Joe Maddon is top-notch. I want Cubs fans to feel the same joy we Sox fans felt with our World Series title in ’05. So don’t let your fans down, finish the job.

  263. 263.

    2liberal

    “I’ve been informed I’m a bad, bad person for posting the score in the post the other day, so I won’t be doing that again.”

    not posting scores won’t save you. You are still a bad person.

  265. 265.

    Gemina13

    Took the SO out for the best steamers to be found in WA (Wally’s Broiler); 1 1/2 pounds of sweet Manila clams in a delicious garlicky broth, each, with mozzarella sticks, 2 cups of clam chowder, and garlic cheese bread to mop up all that broth. We were going to have ice cream afterward, but we were too stuffed to even consider it.

    We got home and found the Cubs had won, and I’m glancing up at the ceiling wondering when the meteor’s going to strike. Holy shit. My mom is out there somewhere muttering, “You bastards couldn’t do it while I still cared, could you . . .”

    Congratulations, Cubs. Next year finally arrived. :)

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