Trump has long said this political movement is not about him. But in Virginia, he says if he's not elected, "the movement comes to an end."
— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) October 22, 2016
Anyone who watches TV news knows there’s a tipping point in the aftermath of every natural disaster where the local authorities switch from insisting that everything is just fine (so as not to discourage business/tourism) to bewailing the unprecedented destruction and its devastating effects on a suffering population (to garner relief funds as quickly as possible). Maybe I’m just a Democratic optimist, but it’s beginning to feel like the GOP and its media enablers are pivoting from Step #1 to Step #2 concerning the political disaster that is Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
The Washington Post reports:
GETTYSBURG, Pa. — Donald Trump traveled Saturday to the site of the bloodiest battle of the Civil War, where he suggested that the United States is nearly as divided now as it was then. But instead of laying out his vision for uniting the country, as President Abraham Lincoln once did here, Trump declared that the system is rigged against him, that election results cannot be trusted, that Hillary Clinton should have been barred from running for president, that the media is “corrupt” and that he will sue all of the women who have accused him of sexual assault…
Trump said the system is “totally rigged and broken” because Clinton has been allowed to run for president, even though he says that she broke “so many laws on so many different occasions.” Trump also implied that what he called rampant voter fraud could cost him the election and said the media was “dishonest.”…
After spending more than 13 minutes listing his grievances, Trump read several numbered lists of things that he would do on his first day in office or during his first 100 days. Nearly all of the items were things that he has repeatedly promised to do, but this was the first time that he listed them in a speech….
In his speech Saturday, Trump listed more than two dozen things that he wants to do, including amending the Constitution to create term limits in Congress, renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement and other trade deals, overwriting “every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama,” and suspending immigration from “terror-prone regions.”…
Trump was joined in Gettysburg by his top two campaign aides, Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway, along with former New York City mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg. As Trump spoke, Conway and Giuliani stood to the side of the stage and watched.
After his speech, Trump visited the Gettysburg National Military Park, where a small crowd of onlookers had gathered to see him.
VERY LOW ENERGY – SAD!
Reading between the lines: Trump appears to threaten retribution—as president—for CNN, NBC & WaPo campaign reporting https://t.co/7Hu5u4dUY3
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) October 22, 2016
Wingnut Welfare outlet the Washington Examiner is hardly an unbiased source, but their report on last night’s conference call from the Trump campaign is… schadenfreude-intensive:
"[W]hy are we on this call?" the reporter asked. (Not in here: Trump aide then asked, "Who the hell is this!?") https://t.co/HXjWZCYUDV
— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) October 22, 2016
… The conference call, which the campaign pitched as a briefing on Trump’s “major” upcoming speech, was scheduled originally for 9:30 pm EDT. It was then moved to 10:00 pm EDT.
When the call eventually started, campaign staffers made it clear they were not to be quoted by name…
At around 15 minutes into the call, and as Trump’s team continued to repeat information that is readily available on the candidate’s website, some reporters appeared to grow restless…
“We know what his policies are [on the website],” the reporter said. “Is there anything outside of those that will be discussed?”
An anonymous Trump staffer replied, “There will be new material tomorrow.”
“But the more fundamental thing though, that, you have 100 different policies, and 100 different priorities, and 100 different goals,” the aide said.
The reporter interjected to say, “I’m trying to figure out what’s new and what we should be paying attention to.”
“I don’t want to say what it will be,” the Trump staffer replied.
“Okay, then why are we on this call?” the reporter asked…
Not sure which would have been the more appropriate location for this: Ft Sumter or Appomattox Court House. pic.twitter.com/bIEaMX5m7M
— Billmon (@billmon1) October 22, 2016
Corner Stone
I just can’t even with Billmon anymore.
Corner Stone
Wow. She’s a great actress. Nice sense of timing.
Yellowdog
Antietam was the bloodiest battle of the Civil War, not Gettysburg. Shame, shame WaPo!
Trentrunner
Noting for the record that Trumpers at today’s VA rally had both Hillary-as-target on target practice poster, and Hillary’s head on a pike.
I think this counts as qualitative escalation.
scav
They managed a press event with ever less information than the infomercial for the new Trump Hotel. With the classic making them wait tradition. Going all out with jerking the choke chain on the chained media.
NMgal
OT, reposted from dead thread:
Mr. NMgal and I voted yesterday at the county courthouse, saints be praised. I would have filled in the scantron bubble next to “Hillary Rodham Clinton/Timothy Michael Kaine” twice, but I had a fresh Sharpie and I didn’t want it to soak through and spoil the ballot. So I just stared at it awhile to savor. Then I carefully filled in the bubbles for every Democrat on offer, including all those running unopposed (a majority of races, it being northern New Mexico). And for all the socialistical bond proposals to benefit libraries and education and other elitist shit.
I witnessed no ballot handling irregularities like those poor bastards in NC, thank goodness – though if there were it would probably benefit Dems, since our (very rural) county votes like 85% Democrat on a regular basis. Went about 57% for Bernie, in fact. Yes, we are weird, and like it that way. Go Hillary!
tofubo
off T , N joi
https://youtu.be/gZnronVFyDE
Karmus
@Yellowdog: The ‘Po could have used “bloodiest” instead of “pivotal”, which might have be benefit of being true and incorporates a favorite word. But maybe “bloodiest” sounds $carier or $exier?
NotMax
Funny, innit, how he voiced no such concerns regarding NBC for all those years it aired his program?
Constitutional amendment on day one. Yeah, now pull the other one.
NotMax
@Trentrunner
Beyond sheeple, they’re creeple.
Baud
Emails!
hovercraft
Why are Jessica and Gloria emphasizing this mysterious word “consent”? Did they not hear Rush say that “consent” is a liberal, elitist concept that real men don’t believe in.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
tRump really does think he’s running for
kingdictator.patroclus
Shiloh was pretty bloody too.
Major Major Major Major
Where did this term limits thing come from anyway? For Trump, i mean. Seems new.
hovercraft
@Baud:
You see when there are new e-mails that reveal the minutia of running a campaign, that is a drip, drip , drip, whereas when additional women come forward to say that the orange shitgibbon accosted them, if there is no new twist, then it is just boring, been there done that.
hovercraft
@NMgal:
Woo hoo !
dmsilev
Disaster area, huh? Perhaps FEMA could do something to help the impacted population, maybe set up some camps to house them.
msdc
I think it’s safe to say this was less of a “last stand” at Gettysburg, and more of a Pickett’s Charge.
Karmus
@Karmus: Reverse that. I should have finished my coffee first ;)
Schmendrick
Early voting began today in Nevada. I voted in southwest Las Vegas in a mobile voting trailer at a shopping center. Arrived around 1:00 pm local time. There were about 50 people in line when I arrived. I completed voting around 1:20. I think there may have been 75 people waiting by then. No one passing out any voting guides for either party. I had to sign an affidavit promising not to vote twice, since I had previously requested a mail-in ballot. (I expected to leave town yesterday but my trip was delayed.)
All-in-all it was a non-exciting process (as it should be) except for the satisfaction of voting both for Hillary and against the hamster heedit bampot. (translation: hamster-headed person of low intelligence and hooliganistic tendencies)
hovercraft
@Major Major Major Major:
It’s proof that he’s a “reformer” and an “outsider” who is coming to drain the swamp. The Chuckles of the world say it shows his seriousness. Now if he’ll just stick to that and the rest of his first 100 day agenda he will win 57 states. Unfortunately for him, he led off his very serious policy speech with him threat to sue his accusers and to break up the media entities who are being mean to him by reporting things like his “words”. So unfair !
msdc
@@Yellowdog: Karmus: Gettysburg was the bloodiest battle of the Civil War. Antietam was the bloodiest single day, but Gettysburg lasted three days.
Another Scott
@Major Major Major Major: It goes back to the Contract
onwith America. It’s seemingly designed to reduce the independence of legislators so that they’re dependent on the party leadership. (E.g. prevent powerful people like Arlen Spector from building their own power-base independent of the party leadership.)It’s yet another example of Trump’s campaign being nothing more than stupid memes without any thought of how to actually make things better.
Cheers,
Scott.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Yellowdog: No, Gettysburg had more casualties than any other Civil War battle. Antietam was eighth; it was the bloodiest single day of the war, but that was the only day of the battle, unlike Gettysburg, which lasted three.
Baud
@hovercraft: To be fair, risotto is never boring.
Major Major Major Major
@Another Scott: oh, I know that term limits are a stupid meme that plays well in Peoria, I just hadn’t heard Trump say it before.
NMgal
@hovercraft: Thanks! Felt good. Mr. NMgal was lowkey but I know he took great satisfaction in casting this ballot, as a Clinton fan from 2008 (he’s one of about four white no-college-degree HRC supporters around – “We have meetings,” he said.)
I found it interesting that, in addition to R and D prez candidates plus the expected Stein/Baraka *spit* and Johnson/Weld (Stoner Gary is literally our neighbor, he owns two houses in the area) tickets, McMullin was one of the choices. NM has a reasonable number of Mormons, is I suppose why. Plus there were a couple more narcissists on the ballot to make themselves feel relevant or whatever.
Percysowner
@Major Major Major Major: My guess is it came when he 1) remembered that he would be term limited and 2) decided he hates, hates, hates Paul Ryan. If he can’t get Ryan out one way, he’ll use this instead.
MomSense
@Baud:
Now I’m going to have to make risotto. With all this talk about it, I’m craving it bigly.
Hawes
Trump? Gettysburg?
I think what you’re looking for is Dickhead’s Charge.
Ian
@Corner Stone:
While I find Billmon less funny over time, I do not see what you see here.
Baud
@MomSense:
It should be on every Democrat’s election day celebration party menu.
Ian
@NotMax:
I think basket of deplorables is about right.
raven
A&M with the lead!
Geoduck
@Corner Stone: Are you referring to that specific comment, or more generally?
MomSense
@Baud:
Fantastic idea.
Jay C
@Major Major Major Major:
Well, the idea isn’t “new”; it’s been a staple of Republican/right-wing proposals for decades – since the Newt Gingrich era, I think – based on the dubious proposition that upright, patriotic American voters (i.e. RWNJs) would overwhelm and replace those deplorably senior liberal Congressmen/Governors/Statehouse Reps if only the latter were termed out in favor of “disinterested” “citizen-lawmakers” (i.e. RWNJs).
NotoriousJRT
@Yellowdog:
Antietam bloodiest SINGLE day?
Kay
Chip Daniels
@Baud:
My election day feast will include arugula with Grey Poupon, washed down with white wine.
Made by lesbian vinters from a Dept of Ag. grant.
Baud
@MomSense: I have lots of good ideas.
Baud
@Chip Daniels:
No orange juice?
Shell
Wow, there was so much airing of grievances at Trumps speech, I thought it was Festivus already.
Chip Daniels
@Jay C:
Even now, rightwing outlets explain that the reason Real True Conservatism didn’t happen under Reagan, or under GWB when they held all three branches of government, was the faithless “career politicians”, who thwarted the goals of cutting the government in half.
ruemara
I’m looking forward to savoring the 2016 vintage of wingnut tears. It looks like a bumper crop harvest, bless the Great Pumpkin’s tiny, incompetent, hands.
bystander
As much as I’m enjoying the smell of Trump slowly turning on the rotisserie, the collateral damage is equally delicious. The eleventh woman accusing Trump of sexual assault just stepped forward. Guess she didn’t hear he’s going to sue them all. No word if they can certify a class and move this to Federal court on a jurisdictional basis.
JPL
@MomSense: One of Podesta’s emails has a good recipe for risotto. You should be able to find it at wiki-leaks.
bystander
@ruemara: Great idea! Pumpkin spice wingnut tears. Sure, it’s seasonal but I hear women love anything that tastes like pumpkin pie.
sukabi
Seem like that long awaited “pivot” we’ve been hearing about for the drumpf campaign is coming from….the media
Kay
The threats of lawsuits are bullshit just like everything else he says. He’s threatening the women hoping more don’t come forward. Doesn’t seem to be working. I’m hoping one of the women taped something- that’s the only thing that stopped Ailes.
The letter begins “I am worth many billions of dollars…”
Guffaw. I hope grownups weren’t actually intimidated by these letters.
Roger Moore
@Another Scott:
The other practical effect is to prevent legislators from developing any real expertise, so they depend more on lobbyists and government agencies to help them make decisions. That’s the argument I usually prefer when arguing against term limits: do you want power in the hands of the people you elect or in the hands of unelected lobbyists and bureaucrats?
Mike in NC
We haven’t watched SNL in years, but will probably tune in tonight to catch Alec Baldwin doing his impression of the Manhattan Mussolini.
sukabi
@Major Major Major Major: pretty sure if drumpf were elected the term limits would be applied to any congressperson or senator that didn’t kiss his ring.
Truegster
The cadaver dogs will have to be trained for “Orange Clown”, which under normal circumstances would be hard to to, but since we have an outbreak of Clown Terror a sample should be easy.
Art needs to be made of Sad Trump in Reclusion, in his tower, no money for the hair treatment, no more Melania, the kids mad because he ruined their brand.
James E Powell
@Corner Stone:
Used to follow him on twitter, but he blocked me. No idea why.
Throughout the primary he was very anti-Clinton. Is that still where he’s at?
Iowa Old Lady
@Roger Moore: I’ve read that one effect of the sequester was to strip congress of some of its staff, and that staff members were the ones who developed expertise in various subjects. The article said it was like a lobotomy for congress.
Kay
Hah. Obama beats Saint Reagan. Actually, everyone except GWB beats Saint Reagan.
Terry chay
@Yellowdog: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_costliest_American_Civil_War_land_battles
Baud
@Kay: I’d hate for that guy to get a third term.
Aleta
Last night someone linked to a video from 2007. Trump on stage, a woman in the audience asks a question and is brought up on stage. He compares himself to an out of control alcoholic around women.
My roommate sat down next to me while I was watching. Immediately he said “Look, he’s groping her breast.” I hadn’t noticed but I watched again and I think he’s right.
btw it’s kind of triggering to watch, so be aware
PaulW
@Major Major Major Major:
It’s his way to give Ryan the middle finger and still sound like a reformist
hovercraft
Michael Smerconish has Pat Pitchfork Buchanan on, he is ranting like a loon, the media is biased and it’s because the media has focused so much on Trump’s misdemeanors that they have destroyed Trump’s chances of winning, and what’s more important that or America. MS points out that since ’92 the liberal media no longer exists because you have talk radio, Drudge, Breitbart, or whatever or wherever you want to get your news, Pat comes back with the left and the establishment are stealing the election with their control of the media. He says that Terry MacCauliff gave 200 K criminals the right to vote by executive order, and they’ve opened up the borders brought in millions to change the character of the country, and now middle America and conservatives has no chance to win, what is he supposed to do, stand up and salute? Trump has endured the worst and most savage beating administered by the media, they focus on trivial pursuit, instead of the big things. Oh my.
Roger Moore
@Jay C:
I think part of it reflected specific conditions in the South. There were a number of old-school Democrats (e.g. Sam Nunn) who were able to hold onto elected office based on personal popularity even as their states trended more and more Republican. I think the plan was to force them out of office with term limits under the assumption that their replacements would be Republicans. Of course they should also have been thinking about some of the old-school Northeast Republicans like Olympia Snowe who were in the opposite situation, but ignoring that kind of thing is typical Gingrichian thinking.
Baud
@hovercraft: Rachel used to call him Uncle Pat.
SiubhanDuinne
@Corner Stone:
To whom are you referring? Have gone all through the post. Anne Laurie, Jenna Johnson, and Kellyanne Conway are (as far as I can tell) the only female names listed — and none of those names makes sense in context of “actress” and “timing.”
kindness
We all get there won’t be a Brooks Brothers riot after the results are announced. More like a rage riot of the undesireables. Most of whom own no Brooks Brothers at all.
Squid696
@Yellowdog: Antietam was the bloodiest day, not bloodiest battle.
Taylor
@Kay: Reagan had the stink of Iran-Contra on him at the end….and his rambling testimony that was the first public clue that he had issues……
Roger Moore
@Mike in NC:
That’s “Ill Douche” to you, bub.
lamh36
I really do enjoy watching Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol…one of the few movies I like Jeremy Renner in. Even as Hawekeye, I’m like Meh.
hovercraft
@Mike in NC:
I only watch during the run-up to the presidential elections. Tina Fey made it worth it in ’08, last time it was meh, this year much better. They will have a couple more weeks of improved ratings, and then fall off a cliff. If you are going to watch Weekend Update sometimes has some amusing content, but you have to wait till after midnight, so I recommend a DVR.
Mike in dc
Jessica Drake is the latest accuser. She showed a picture of the two of them together. Came across as highly credible.
At this rate there will be more than 20 groping accusations and 20+ stories of inappropriate conduct by election day. That’s the lower end of a Cosby unit. I don’t think the stories will stop after election day, either.
lamh36
So apparently they had an old skool mutha…mutha…house party at the White House. We will most certainly never see the like of the Obama White House again.
@WordOnRd 7h7 hours ago
President Obama was dancing to Drake last night at their final musical night at The White House.
Short clip: @WordOnRd
President Obama dancing to “Hotline Bling” last night at The White House.
hovercraft
@sukabi:
Term limits, hah! He would fire them, then his staff would have to pull him aside to explain for the 64 time that he does not have the authority to fire congresscritters.
sukabi
Drumpf should have done his “speech” at Little Bighorn…. seems a bit more apropo for coming events.
scav
Actually, why are people going for the big, consequential civil wat battles for this speech? Some overhyped or absurdly dooned skirmish is more like. Rather like the Battle of Palmetto Ranch, only sillier.
lamh36
@Mike in dc: Right…but ya already can bet they will be ready and willing to use her porn past to discredit her, but then you are STILL left with Donald Trump..and his porn buddies…
As we know, they love their porn, but they don’t like folks to know about their love of porn
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
When a bubble collapses it’s really ugly – all the suckers stampeding to the exits.
Bill E Pilgrim
And our country can get off the toilet and breathe a sigh of relief.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
MomSense
@Baud:
That’s why I’m always team Baud even though I didn’t write in your name.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
Roger Moore
@sukabi:
Just remember which side’s supporters like waving Confederate flags.
GregB
TrumPence Charge.
p.a.
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: May he take the rest of the sewage down with him. If Dems take the House I can save $; won’t need the blue pills for a while… sorry, TMI??
James E Powell
I mean, what are they gonna say when he’s gone? ‘Cause he dies when it dies, when it dies, he dies! What are they gonna say about him? He was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bull shit man!
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
Gallup Presidential Poll — Oct 22, 2016
Barack Obama
Approve………..57%
Disapprove……40%
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Gallup Presidential Poll — Oct 22, 2008
George W. Bush
Approve………..25%
Disapprove……70%
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but, but, but….. this is a change election!
Villago Delenda Est
National Trumpism comes to and end with his demise. Well. I wonder how the peasants are taking this message.
JPL
@Bill E Pilgrim: If only!
Schlemazel
For those who want to see the Hamilton! special from PBS HERE is the link to stream it online
lahke
hi, folks. For those wondering if Don Giovanni worth it, yes indeedy. (didn’t check all the comments, so siohban may have reported back already. sorry if this is repetitive. ) Simon Keenlysides was great, but sounded a little off the rails at intermission interview. Started off with the theme of the opera being personal liberty, even to be a gropy, rapey schmuck while defying the world and the devil, and then veered off to concerns about non-western values being something we might not want to adopt.
On the other hand, sure beat the usual boring interview. And you have to give him credit for singing Winston Smith in the opera they made of 1984.
Iowa Old Lady
@Schlemazel: Thank you, thank you!
Schmendrick
@Schmendrick: I should also add that according to Nevada law (NRS 293.270) I was not allowed to write in Baud, who was not on the ballot. I could have voted “none of the above”, but that just didn’t have the same feel.
hovercraft
@Iowa Old Lady:
It started before that with the Gingrich revolution, but it became especially stupid during the Bush years when the Congressional Research Service, which is congresses in house think tank, full of people who are you know “experts” on policy, provided things like facts that they didn’t like since they showed that they had no idea what they were talking about. They have been slowly killing the service ever since.
Gingrich killed
So yes the sequester cost them staffers, but those staffers are partisan hacks, the loss of the OTA and the suffocation of the CRS are where the greatest harm to the nation has occurred.
sukabi
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: it is, we’re putting on our “Big Girl Panties”…
debbie
@Baud:
Pity you didn’t try running for office with those good ideas.
Shana
@Hawes: “Dickhead’s Charge” You win.
Villago Delenda Est
@hovercraft: Too bad about the old Nazi. My heart pumps buttermilk for him.
Die in searing pain, you holocaust denying sack of shit.
debbie
@Schlemazel:
I watched it last night. It was great!
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
It only took two years for these “geniuses” to finally figure this out.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
MazeDancer
In childhood, I lived in a town that was a Civil War battleground. Tens of thousands slaughtered. Civil War battles were full of carnage because they were fought old style – in lines, get close to your enemy – with new fangled weapons, the power guns of the time. It was like firing AK-47’s from derringer range. Slaughter.
Trump standing on hallowed ground, made so by power guns, adamant he would erase school gun-free zones was repulsive.
Also repulsive: Peter Navarro, Trump policy guy. Just saw him on PMJoy. Creepy at a whole new level of creepy. Kind of Igor, dungeon keeper creepy. He has a Harvard PhD. Joy Reid graduated from Harvard. Neither of them mentioned the academic overlap. Thinking Harvard might only want to claim one, though have never her speak of them.
debbie
@Major Major Major Major:
Trump plagiarized it from the Tea Party. We have the Tea Party to thank for term limits, which are responsible for the dumbing down of politics. With showpieces like Joe Wilson and Louie Gohmert, term limits should be expunged from all records. Let the voters be the ones to decide who should leave and who should stay.
NonyNony
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:
It would be really nice if news agencies would hire pollsters to actually ask a follow-up question on the “wrong track” number. As in “if you think the country is on the wrong track, who do you think deserves primary blame?”
My suspicion is that Congress would be number 1 with a bullet. Followed by the media. Obama might only make the top 3 because of the Republican base.
Roger Moore
@Baud:
But do you have the best ideas, we’ve never seen ideas so good?
SiubhanDuinne
@lahke:
Thanks for this! Yes, I commented one thread down (#108-109) in response to a question from Mnemosyne and a comment from Jim, Foolish Literalist.
I’m a big fan of Simon Keenlyside, and while his intermission comments were, shall we say, not the usual fare of “how I approach the character and keep it fresh after xxx performances and how does my performance change depending on who my Donna Anna is,” I have to say I found his comments intriguing. He was a zoology major (“read” zoology) at Cambridge before turning to music, so he brings an interesting perspective to the evolutionary and historical context of Mozart’s “social commentary” operas. Two or three minutes of a Met intermission probably wasn’t the right time or place for him to start the conversation, but I’d love to get him over a few glasses of wine holding forth. It’s a fascinating discussion, I think.
Vhh
@msdc: true. Everything after Picketts was downhill fir the Confederacy.
Villago Delenda Est
@MazeDancer:
In the American Civil War, Napoleonic tactics were used, but the catch is, the weapons had far outstripped that tactical model, which is why the battles were so bloody. By the end of the war, a preview of trench warfare as it would be seen in The Great War was introduced. The reason for being so close to the enemy in the Napoleonic era was that the weapons used were subject to misfires, which reduced the overall effect of a volley. Breach loading weapons, often with metal cartridges, changed that dynamic, and the firepower of an infantry formation increased dramatically.
PsiFighter37
I am in Portland, Maine and have seen a ton of Gary Johnson signs, one Trump sign, and no Hillary signs. I know they don’t really matter, but the Libertarian love suggests that the Berniebros here never got a clue.
jl
Yeebus. The Trump First 100 Days Plan, what a bag of crap. The one thing I was worried about with Trump was he would have the discipline and focus to work up a bogus progressive (but really reactionary white apartheid populist welfare state) economic plan. So, let us see what we have here.
SUE the crummy dames what accused him of sexual assault
A few weak sauce slogans stolen from Sanders.
The rest of it is a laundry list of reactionary, plutocratic and dishonest recycled GOP BS. And of that, what is not recycled, but new, is truly awful and counter productive, like federal term limits, which coupled with the standard and not very enforceable time outs for lobbying dough, is as likely to increase corruption and eliminate it.
I haven’t liked the way the campaign has gone, but maybe it was for the best. Corporate media had an excuse to take accusations of sexual assault, hilariously inflated voter fraud claims, threats to disregard the election results no matter what the grounds, and (at least some of the) Trump financial scams seriously, which meant maximum damage to Trump. Probably, they would have recognized the standard reactionary plutocratic GOP policy proposals in Trumps first 100 days bullcrap, and tried to peddle it to the population rather than report it out. Gland Donny didn’t get around to unveiling this bag-o-shit until now, after it is too late.
Let’s GOTV, contribute, and vote and hope for the best.
Shana
@NonyNony: I’ve always been kind of conflicted about how to answer those “wrong track” questions from pollsters. I like Obama (obviously) and what he’s tried to do over his 2 terms, but hate what the GOP in Congress has been doing, or rather not doing, during that period. So who’s track are they asking about really?
ETA your second comment on the issue was what I was trying to say.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Roger Moore: Baud, ideas? No.
Finding half finished beers behind the 7-11, Baud’s your guy.
SFAW
@Roger Moore:
Are they so good that we’ll get tired of good-idea-ing?
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
Pivot.
SFAW
@Vhh:
Thank God for ol’ Bobby Lee!
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
Villago Delenda Est
Damn post about Gettysburg destroyed by BJ going catatonic for DNS purposes after hitting the “post comment” button.
OK here we go again:
While many argue that from a military standpoint, Vicksburg was more important than Gettysburg, the fact is that Gettysburg took place near DC and the entire purpose of the campaign was political, to score a major victory on Union soil to establish that the Confederacy was politically viable. Winning that battle, with British and French attaches watching, would have opened up the possibility of British and/or French recognition of the Richmond regime. Failure spelt doom for the Confederacy, it was only a matter of time before the anaconda strategy ended things.
Rhett Butler was right.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
I’m looking forward to seeing it on Wednesday. A few of my friends went today and loved it.
Villago Delenda Est
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: Downfall becomes more and more the model for how this all ends.
jl
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: Trump has been on every side of so many issues that it is hard to keep track. Only constants I know of are
1) treating foreign policy, defense treaties and allies, as a shakedown and extortion scheme
2) die-hard racial and ethnic bigotry.
Everything else is up for grabs. Why anyone would believe Trump’s supposed policy stances on anything is beyond me.
The day after election, I can afford to wax nostalgic for the entertainment lost because of the Trump defeat. For example, I imagine a Trump ‘win on the nuclear’ crash program, which would probably include ceremonial weighing of US nuclear warheads to publicly certify that they are bigger and heavier and classier than other countries’ nuclear warheads. And then ceremonial application of a gold Trump coat of arms. that would be way cool to watch on the TV.
Until we can afford nostalgia though, everyone participate some way in GOTV, contribute, and vote.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:
Wasn’t that in the Cooper Union speech?
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Second Inaugural.
jl
@jl:
Sorry, meant to type:
” is as likely to increase corruption THAN TO eliminate it. “
TriassicSands
Once again Trump reveals his profound ignorance of the way the US government works and the contents of the Constitution.
The president has no role in amending the Constitution. Both houses of Congress have to vote by a 2/3 majority to pass an amendment. Then, 3/4 of the state legislatures have to pass the amendment. That means that Trump has to get 2/3 of the House and 2/3 of the Senate to vote to term limit themselves. While the TeaBaggers may be willing to support such an amendment, it seems very unlikely that only 1/3 of each house would oppose Trump’s amendment.
The other means to propose a constitutional amendment is by a vote of 2/3 of the state legislatures calling for a constitutional convention. None of the 27 amendments has been passed by the convention route. Most politicians rightly fear holding a convention — once the convention is called it is open season on the Constitution. In this case, the convention would not be limited to the term limits amendment. There could be an amendment proposed to end Citizens United or to rescind the 2nd Amendment or anything else the crazies at the convention wanted to propose. Risky business.
Trump has repeatedly criticized Clinton for not changing this law or that law when she was a senator. He acts as though senators can enact legislation unilaterally. Trump did that in both the 2nd and 3rd debates and for some reason Clinton didn’t respond by pointing out Trump’s complete ignorance of the way laws are passed. Trump also behaves as though the president can do whatever she or he wants to do. Apparently he thinks he will be able to make any change he wants through executive order or more likely he thinks it will be through Presidential Edict. The man’s an idiot.
jl
@Omnes Omnibus: Isn’t there a famous passage about suing all the crummy dames what smeared him in George Washington’s Farewell Address? So hard to keep track of the illustrious precedents for the Trump campaign.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: How could I forget.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
lahke
I keep trying to get my friends to read BJ. Now I can tell them it’s a political, animal-rescue, opera-loving recipe blog?
Omnes Omnibus
@jl: I thought that was the one about picking up women by grabbing their crotches. It’s how he “scored” Martha.
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It just flows, doesn’t it?
Omnes Omnibus
@lahke: Do you hate your friends?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@TriassicSands:
Well, Obama’s done that.
/RWNJ
Ruckus
@TriassicSands:
tRump isn’t running for president, he is running for
kingdictator.ETA He’s so dumb he doesn’t even know how you normally get to be a dictator.
jl
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The mystic chords of memory (and I’m very proud to announce a special Trump Inauguration special issue of Trump Mystic Chords will be on sale soon) stretching from every Trump resort and golf course to every MAGA cap (special inaugural memorial versions on sale now) all over this top terrific and classiest country, will yet swell, yeah, that is what I mean, really swell and terrific, The Best, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature, who will tell you that I am a winner, I alone will make us win, and if you don’t listen you’re a loser and a dummy, and if you make trouble, look forward to hearing from my lawyers from the department of justice, asshole.
Edit: sorry not a good Trump imitation, I don’t have time to translate it all into fourth grade English right now.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: Yes, but will there be sharp looking black uniforms with double lightning bolts?
Ian
@debbie:
The Colorado GOP did the whole term limits and tax-refunds into the state constitution about 30 years ago. Has not worked out well for the state or for the state GOP.
Groucho48
Trump’s first day in office:
FIRST, Rename the White House to The Trump White House
SECOND, Order up some gold paint. LOTS of gold paint
THIRD, Hire the BEST designers to build a 9 hole golf course in the back yard. Start hawking memberships.
FOURTH, Fire all the cooks and have all TWH meals catered by Trump Enterprises
FIFTH, Retire Air Force One and have the government lease his jet for his use.
SIXTH, Have Clinton, Paul Ryan, Elizabeth Warren, Obama, Jeb!, and various reporters arrested and sent to Guantanamo.
Ruckus
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Gold lame with shit brindle brown capital T on the back.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Groucho48: Trump’s on record saying that AF-1 isn’t classy enough.
germy
(Esquire)
Mike G
And then you flush and wash your hands.
Woodrowfan
YA THINK??!!! Jesus.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Media is calling it the Grievanceburg address.
Nobody should be sitting idly by letting a presidential candidate threaten to sue his sexual assault accusers. He’s already stepped over the line on muliple occasions but that is going even further.
I hope people go after him legally from all directions and cost him a fortune after all of this.
raven
@Villago Delenda Est: And then there was the Battle of Atlanta. The Confederates tale Legget’s Hill and Lincoln could have easily lost the election.
germy
NCSteve
@Yellowdog: It’s the great “depends on how you measure it” of the Civil War. Antietam was the single bloodiest day in American history, but the three day Battle of Gettysburg was the single bloodiest battle of the war and the bloddiest ever fought on North American soil.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
@Ian: Funnier than that 3rd party conversation guy Erickson or whatever.
germy
question of the day from the Washington Post:
Shalimar
@jl: What we need come November 9th is a good situation comedy series, Drumpf In Charge. Scott Baio can co-star as a different cabinet official each week. Lots of potential plots in fictional Donald destroying everything he touches.
NCSteve
The legal defense fund GoFundMe page for those women will meet its goal in half an hour.
There is nothing about him that isn’t loathsome, but among the loathsome things is the way he uses the legal system as a means of using his money to bully and harm those who he has wronged.
Shana
@lahke: Don’t forget rampant Hamilton fandom.
jl
@germy: I think I got the link for that quote, Is this the one? That goofball Steele only now unendorsing Trump? From what he has been saying and writing, I assumed Steele had jumped off the sinking GOP loon ship long ago. Why TF would Steele have stayed on board so long? They dumped and smeared him for the likes of frat doofus Priebus, who has made Steele look like a fricken genius.
Michael Steele says Donald Trump’s campaign “captured that racist underbelly … of American life”
Salon, Friday Oct 21, 2017 (!?)
Michael Steele has officially joined the scores of influential Republicans vowing not to vote for Donald Trump in the upcoming presidential election.
http://www.salon.com/2016/10/21/michael-steele-says-donald-trumps-campaign-captured-that-racist-underbelly/
Mary G
That photo of Uday or Qusay (I can never remember which one is which) holding up the severed elephant’s tail is beginning to seem strangely prophetic.
David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch
@germy: Steele just figured that out – not 5 years ago during the height of birtherism?
Steele is only doing this now cuz he trying to get on the last life boat before the Trumptanic breaks in half and completely sinks.
germy
@jl:
I wondered that myself. What was the “last straw” for him?
germy
@Mary G: Should be a Toles cartoon. The sons holding up the severed tail while Toles’ GOP elephant character looks on in horror, both hands behind his back covering his ass.
jl
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch: @germy: Well, you stare into stupid and weird long enough,stupid and weird stares back at you. Probably hopeless to figure out why those people do what they do. The very thought that Steele is one of the smarter saner GOPers should be clue to just not try to figure them out.
germy
Buoyed by rising polls, Clinton shifts to a new target: the House and Senate
JPL
@Groucho48: It’s Scion White House. It’s just a sprout of what he’s use to.
schrodinger's cat
@Chip Daniels:Tacos from a Latin market in my area.
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
Glad you are going! I’ll reiterate my one piece of advice to Mnem downstairs: make sure you visit the restroom before the opera starts. Act One is a good two hours before intermission starts.
Ken
I’m sure he’s just planning to convert the movement into a TV channel, but does that sound a bit, well, Jonestown to anyone else?
lahke
@Omnes Omnibus: misery loves company? sorry for the no-caps. cats on the keyboard again.
sounds like that song……https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c
SiubhanDuinne
@lahke:
ETFY (Expanded That For Ya)
raven
Cubbies gettin to him early!
Schlemazel
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yes, Vicksburg was the stake in the heart of the bastards, they were a dead mob walking after that. It was only a matter of time before the rest of the rotten corpse stopped twitching. Gettysburg got the attention because it was near all the big shots & media. It continued to get all the attention because of the lost cause bullshit idea that somehow winning would have brought England in on their side. There is nothing that would have done that but those people want to believe in fairy tails.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne:
ETFY
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: it’s really more of a car-abandoning-in-meadow blog than a car-buying blog.
Schlemazel
@Ken:
At this point I’d be mostly OK if a lot of his followers did the Jonestown punch bowl when he loses. It would be better than the revenge fantasies they seem to want to act out.
raven
@efgoldman: New one today, Jessica Drake, adult film star!
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
You’re right. Also, a mustard-losing thing. And a falling-through-the-planks/injuring-self-whilst-naked-mopping thing.
hovercraft
@lamh36:
This is the sort of thing that the beltway types hate, all the cool kids were invited to the WH for a party, but they were not invited. They are the gatekeepers dammit. They want to in with the cool kids too. He doesn’t invite them to his parties, and he turns down their invites, in other words he’s uppity.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: What? There’s no taco truck on your corner? SAD!
hovercraft
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:
RIGGED, RIGGED, I tell you those are not real poll numbers.
redshirt
All you ME CD2 junkies out there will be happy to hear the latest poll now shows Hillary will a slim 2 point lead, but this is a big comeback from her 14 point deficit 6 weeks ago.
She’s gonna take it.
germy
@raven:
Offered her $10,000 to go back to his room.
sukabi
@Ken: he’s burning thru whatever resources and people would help him fund that adventure…he’s probably going to be spending considerable time and resources fighting off his kids, shareholders for control of his existing properties….
Omnes Omnibus
@hovercraft: It’s high school again. There are the official “cool kids” and there are the kids who are actually cool. The msm sees itself as the arbiter of the “cool kids” and they didn’t pick the Obamas. The Obamas never gave a fuck because they had no interest in being officially “cool.” They simply went on being naturally cool.
cynthia ackerman
@Mike G: So smooth.
sukabi
@Omnes Omnibus: as FLOTUS said to Colbert, if you have to ask if you’ve got swag, you DON’T.
germy
@Omnes Omnibus: A few days ago I saw Charlie Rose on some panel discussion. He mentioned Hillary’s life of “privilege” and I remembered that Charlie has his own table at “21”
hovercraft
@David ?▶️Bad Hombres▶️? Koch:
I saw an analyst say somewhere that the right/wrong was more of an indictment of congress and the gridlock in DC. The public blames everyone in DC for the gridlock, but unfortunately for the GOP they are a bunch of loons, so even though they constantly point the finger at the President, he seems reasonable and likable, so they get the bulk of the blame. The silver lining for them has been that gerrymandering and incumbency has protected them. So if the wave does materialize, this will indeed be a change election.
ETA: @NonyNony, you beat me to it.
Jeffro
@Mike G: L O L
schrodinger's cat
@?BillinGlendaleCA: There is a halal truck, does that count?
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: And as the cliche goes, first they were picked on for not joining the Cool Kids, but eventually everyone saw how Cool they were, and now they’re King and Queen of Cool.
Jeffro
@?BillinGlendaleCA: wouldn’t that be great if both HRC and PBO had taco trucks stop by The White House gate and Brooklyn headquarters on election Eve?
?BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: Sorry, no. The man said taco trucks on every corner.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Jeffro: YES! Make it so taco truck dudes(and dudettes).
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Well, obviously it’s not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any mobile purveyors of yummy food.
schrodinger's cat
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Then send one my way!
Jay C
@schrodinger’s cat:
Creeping Shariah!!!!
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
FETFY (Further ETFY)
Major Major Major Major
I’m getting Cambodian in Oakland! Yum.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: I think we finally have it covered.
Ken
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m pretty sure that the original meant it to be taken literally, since it was part of an anti-immigrant rant. Let me google… the oracle says it was by Marco Gutierrez, founder (and possibly sole member of) Latinos for Trump. Wonder what he has for dinner every night – pizza? Chow mein?
Omnes Omnibus
@Ken: I think you may have missed my reference.
lollipopguild
@?BillinGlendaleCA: We need a new version of the Twilight Zone to have an episode where Trump is walking home from a bar one night and he is followed/stalked by Taco Trucks!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: No, it was meant quite literally. The dude who said it was a Latino Trump supporter who said it within the context of the pervasiveness of Latino culture.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I give up.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: I’m Anglo, I don’t have any power over the taco trucks.
redshirt
@lollipopguild: Creepy taco trucks! And when Donald finally confronts them they have chimichangas for fingers and a corn tortilla for a mouth.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: Hmmm, that sounds tasty; though I prefer flour tortillas.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: no, the taco trucks have power over you! They’re a very dominating culture!
Shana
@germy: So now there’s attempted prostitution on top of all the other crap? Nice moves Donnie.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Major Major Major Major: Exactly, now I’m hungry.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Shana: I hope you mean that he solicited the services of an escort; not the other way around.
ETA: Anyone know if Costco has Brain Bleach™? I may need the family size for the next 2 1/2 weeks.
Major Major Major Major
@?BillinGlendaleCA: every corner, man. If we don’t stop Hillary you’ll spend the rest of your life wanting tacos.*
*not guaranteed to be different from current projections
Denali
@Schmelzel,
Thanks for the link to Hamilton! Just watched it-Wow!
Jeffro
@Denali: amazing isn’t it? all that hard work really paid off – couldn’t be happier for everyone involved
redshirt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Corn is so much better than flour. Let’s fight!
Major Major Major Major
Did we talk about this? Creepy clown blown up after being chased into jungle full of land mines
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Jeebus, what the heck is going on? This is a worldwide phenomena now?
This is going to be end of clowns as we know them.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: hopefully Adam can put this on the front page so that we can all be informed of the spread of this epidemic.
Tokyokie
@Yellowdog: Antietam was the bloodiest single day of fighting during the Civil War, but Gettysburg was the bloodiest battle, lasting three days.
redshirt
@Tokyokie: You’re like the 6th person to mention this.
Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck
@hovercraft:
And this is why Obama offering the olive branch to the GOP through the vast majority of his presidency was genius, not naivete. On the chance they would cooperate, he gets more done. If they don’t, he looks like an adult and they look like children. It’s also morally right. There is no downside except not meeting the anger requirement of a tiny number of leftists.
ding7777
@lollipopguild: or Trump could just step outside his Vegas hotel to see a
a wall of Taco trucks
amk
@Baud: He’d hate for that guy to get a third term.
Origuy
@Omnes Omnibus: What have we come to when a Monty Python and the Holy Grail reference goes by without comment? Are the classics being forgotten?
Omnes Omnibus
@Origuy: Thank you.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: I was trying to figure out what I was reminded of!
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: I am surrounded by cretins.
Omnes Omnibus
@Origuy: Oh dear god, I just realized that you missed it too! Life of motherfucking Brian, damn it!
MomSense
@redshirt:
Don’t jinx it!! I think Dem early voting is far outpacing the Republicans, also too.
I still think this is going to be a squeaker.
amk
@redshirt: toldja.
karen marie
@Ken: People keep calling it a “TV” channel but it will be an internet channel, not cable or broadcast. I am assuming the fuck ton of money they’re trying (and so far failing) to raise is prepayment for “talent” who, given Trump’s propensity for stiffing people, won’t sign on before seeing actual cash in advance.
Brachiator
I’ve been away from the media and Internets most of the afternoon and evening. I see that the Log Cabin Republicans have declined to support Trump.
Their official position is that they are proud not to be a single issue group, but I have to wonder how they can stay in a political party which believes in the efficacy of conversion therapy.
Brachiator
@Pest Bog Mummy, Frakensteinbeck:
@hovercraft:
Unfortunately, I don’t think this is true. The situation quickly becomes transformed into “both sides do it” and “why can’t they compromise?”
That someone looks like an adult is a big deal for liberals. It means nothing to Republicans.
amk
@Brachiator: yeah, 57% approval rating and rising is all due to libruls.
redshirt
@amk: I never truly doubted, but rather stood in shame at the tendencies of many of my fellow citizens.
amk
@redshirt: the racist scum of a pos ain’t doing that great even with whites. not even the proverbial/(in)famous 27%.
Kropadope
@Mike G:
Gold.
sdhays
@patroclus: As I’m sure you know, there were no battles of any consequence west of the Appalachian Mountains until all of sudden Ulysses S. Grant wrote to President Lincoln while sitting at a bar in Illinois and suggested attacking Vicksburg. The entire war can be (and basically was when I was in school) described in terms of what happened in Virginia, with brief special episodes in Maryland and Pennsylvania and a bit of unpleasantness in Georgia. Whatever Grant and Sherman were doing for the first few years of the war just couldn’t be worth bothering about…
Origuy
@Omnes Omnibus: I am ashamed.
Dmbeaster
@Yellowdog: Antietam, bloodiest day (and still is for all US wars); Gettysburg, bloodiest battle.
Omnes Omnibus
@Origuy: You slipped up. It happens.
Mnemosyne
@Origuy:
Two minutes by yourself, you know, you feel shame.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: You win so many points for this.
Dmbeaster
@Villago Delenda Est: The big change was rifled muskets, which were still muzzle loaded. More hitting power, very large bullet, and accurate to a much greater range. Napoleonic muskets were smooth bore and not accurate at over 50 yards. That is why a mass of men standing in a group and firing volleys was the only effective way to hit something. And you are definitely right that the end of the war foreshadowed trench warfare that came later.
JR in WV
@Chip Daniels:
I got a bottle of Iron Horse and a bottle of Granite’ champagne, chilling for the night of November 8th. Can’t wait. Will enjoy, going to invite neighbors to share. Probably get a couple more bottles between now and then.
Sm*t Cl*de
@Major Major Major Major:
I for one support the idea of using clowns for mine clearance.
Ella in New Mexico
@NMgal: I’m from down south and the husband and I voted Monday. No lines, no confusion about precincts, nice and friendly folks at the table assisting us. Give them your name and birth date, and they print your customized ballot for your district. Fill in the bubbles and run it thru the scanner and BOOM! You get your “I Voted” sticker.
For all the crap New Mexico gets about being at the bottom of so many things, I’m so very proud of how well we conduct our elections. The whole country Could learn a thing or two from us.
Denali
@Mnemosyne,
How do you do that? Do you have file folder?
Cleos
@scav:
In terms of richly deserving a choke chain, there has never been a canine so over-excitable or belligerent that wasn’t put in the shade by said chained media.
Carnacki
@Yellowdog: Gettysburg overall. Antietam bloodiest SINGLE day battle.