INBOX: Bruce Springsteen to Join Hillary Clinton and President Obama at Independence Hall Rally in Philadelphia.
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 6, 2016
(Insert your own Chris Christie joke here)
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a question for which i don’t know the answer: does a day-of, or day-before campaign rally actually move people toward a candidate?
— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) November 5, 2016
No, it can move people who support the candidate to vote, who may not otherwise. All about mobilization down the stretch https://t.co/Ou8q5rg1NQ
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) November 5, 2016
@JakeSherman @danpfeiffer The free concerts/rallies seem to have a major impact on juicing the early vote. pic.twitter.com/GYu3F94Dp0
— Tyler Sandberg (@wtylersandberg) November 5, 2016
trump is so dumb, he thinks the concerts are about just getting a big crowd https://t.co/9Ib9dJkjbh pic.twitter.com/4EPClSYtOC
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 5, 2016
Buzzfeed:
… The show coincided with a coordinated push in Cleveland to turn out voters, as well as the significant operation currently running in the state. Of a dozen and a half volunteers that spoke with BuzzFeed News, nearly all canvassed in this city’s East Side.
One of them was Shay Ford, a 22-year-old who said her favorite part was when Clinton came out and “showed love” to Cleveland. “I didn’t think she wasn’t coming.”
They canvassed where voters fell into one of three categories, according to a wide range of starry-eyed young black people looking forward to laying eyes on Beyoncé for the first time. A third of voters had already voted for Clinton; another third planned to vote on Election Day. The last third, echoing a sentiment people inside the Clinton campaign dedicated to turning out the black vote dread, didn’t believe voting would in any way help their communities or situation.
Modern organizing programs of political campaigns like to have organizers say they’re your neighbors when they knock on your door. To the extent that this is an effective strategy, Clinton camp’s decision to have volunteers clock a couple of hours for the chance to see the concert is pretty genius…
Find someone who looks at you the way Beyoncé looks at Hillary pic.twitter.com/4S7nBJuBdE
— Marc Snetiker (@MarcSnetiker) November 5, 2016
Politico:
…[T]he free concerts aren’t just there to draw Donald Trump-sized crowds. They’re part of an under-the-radar tactic that Clinton’s Brooklyn team believes is a powerful organizing tool that’s already yielding results for the campaign’s get-out-the-vote efforts — especially in the critical counties and among the demographic groups Clinton needs most.
The candidate with famously high unfavorable ratings doesn’t even have to make the pitch herself for the strategy to work: she spoke for five minutes in front of the crowd of 10,000 here, letting the headliners take the night — and even then the performers barely said her name, instead simply imploring the audience to vote.
Instead, her campaign focuses on the distribution of the free tickets themselves in the days before of the event, which lets the local teams collect, analyze, and mobilize thousands of new names in communities where they see warning signs, like young African Americans in Cleveland’s Cuyahoga County.
And already, the campaign is seeing signs that the concerts are having their desired effect — including when artists are paired with traditional political surrogates: Ahead of President Barack Obama’s appearance with James Taylor, for example, the local operatives handed out tickets across the street from an early voting site in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Voting turnout there jumped 80 percent compared to the previous day, making it the single largest voting day there so far — and bumping up county-wide turnout 16 percent by itself.
“It’s about energy, it’s about mobilization. We who work in politics or cover politics have been thinking about this election for a year and a half, but there are still people who have not in some of these communities,” said Addisu Demissie, Clinton’s director of national voter outreach and mobilization. “There are a lot of ways we talk to voters — through the press, through direct voter contact — but this is just another tool in the arsenal to get to communities that aren’t necessarily engaged.”…
The push, which is especially pronounced in Pennsylvania as a way to jolt voters who don’t have access to early voting, has caught Trump’s eye: “I didn’t have to bring JLo or Jay Z, I am here all by myself,” he grumbled in Hershey, Pennsylvania on Friday, and re-raised the argument Saturday morning Florida.Indeed, the concerts have made up some of the biggest crowds of Clinton’s campaign — Lopez’ concert in Miami drew 7,500 — which has been concerned that this month’s letter from FBI Director Jim Comey would drain enthusiasm from some of its less committed backers, even if it energized Clinton’s base supporters…
find someone who looks at you the way absolutely everyone looks at beyoncé pic.twitter.com/heLyNdnjum
— laura olin (@lauraolin) November 5, 2016
Drives Trump absolutely nuts that celebrities & big name politicians, led by Obama, are out there for Clinton & they avoid him like plague.
— Tony Schwartz (@tonyschwartz) November 5, 2016
On the (very) long list of dumb shit that Trump has done this election, attacking Beyoncé has to be near the top
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) November 6, 2016
Trump: "They do the concert. A lot of people were offended by how bad the language was." https://t.co/h8ZAUGKO3Z
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) November 6, 2016
Trump: "The language was filthy. It was – it was filthy. By any standard of anybody in this room." https://t.co/sSSMq6GN4N
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) November 6, 2016
Trump: "When you have to have all of these different people to get involved politically…It’s demeaning to the political process." (?!?!?!) https://t.co/B0y83Qq2Jj
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) November 6, 2016
Trump says Clinton campaigning w/ Jay-Z and Beyonce is “demeaning” to the political process. He’s set to appear with Ted Nugent tmrw
— Holly Bailey (@hollybdc) November 6, 2016
The Trump Train takes the southern route through Michigan. pic.twitter.com/o5sSky06QN
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 6, 2016
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
NBC/WSJ Poll — Nov 3 thur Nov 5 — 1,282 Likely Voters
Clinton…………48%
Drumpf………..43%
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ABC/Post Poll — Nov 1 thur Nov 4 — 1,685 Likely Voters
Clinton…………49%
Drumpf………..44%
redshirt
Yeah but Scott Baio, Ted Nugent, and that Red Dawn guy!
Omnes Omnibus
Taking shots at Beyonce? Stick a fork in him.
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
Hillz has Katy Perry, Beyonce, JayZ, Lebron, The Boss, James Taylor and Bon Jovi.
Big deal!
Trump has Sarah Palin, Nugent, Scott Baio, and Joe Piscapo campaigning with him.
Try and top that!
Lizzy L
To quote a local celebrity — Al Davis, bless his heart — “Just win, baby.”
redshirt
Trump has Kid Rock, IIRC, also too.
PatrickG
Wait, he found a burner phone?
ETA: joke made sense on my head. I meant he’s apparently got Twitter surrogates. Take that, staffers! No one constrains the Trump.
lollipopguild
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Its called scraping the bottom of the barrel.But thats what Trumpenfuror does so well Its bigly and classy and shows off his world class temprement.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Fucking game changer there.
Betsy
I asked a knowledgeable person (prob shdnt say who) what possible difference a midnight rally by Sec’y Clinton here in Raleigh could make on Election Eve.
The answer is: Closeout! It sucks all the air out of the news cycle on Election Day morning, limits any room for Trump news.
And also — hashtag #stamina
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Well that should lock in the Hep C crowd.
WarMunchkin
Ah yes, the “filthy” Beyonce lyrics, you know, like the ones Ann Coulter quoted that actually are Nicki Minaj lyrics but they all look the same amirite?
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: @Adam L Silverman: LOL. So true.
lollipopguild
@WarMunchkin: All black female singers look alike to Ann of the Hitlerbunker.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch:
I’m a little surprised Victoria Jackson couldn’t make room in her busy schedule to stand by Trump.
PsiFighter37
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Smells like victory!
In the meantime, I am listening to my wife argue with my father-in-law’s decision to vote for Gary Johnson in PA…in Chinese. I’m mildly bemused / hoping she is laying down the law in the foreign tongue.
lamh36
All i wanted was a burger…i went to his one place i saw reviews for, but it wasn’t what i expected. Called myself walking to the place for a burger…barely an incline and my leg was bothering me. I turned away from that place and decided fuq it i’ll get some drive thru. so i check the trusted Google Maps for a DRIVE THRU Burger King and head out in the rental. It takes me to a corner dining…NO drive thru??. So i like fuq it there was a 7Eleven up the street right? So I driving up and down these damn hills of San Francisco and now it’s nighttime!! i ended up driving for an additional 45min til I found a Walgreens but the streets here are like Tulane Ave…no left turns. So i end up going up and down the same street and up and down side streets for another 15min. i never made it to Burger King or even 7Eleven. Instead where did I end up…IHOP!! But hey I got my burger!!
gf120581
Isn’t Ted Nugent supposed to be dead by now? He predicted he’d be dead if Obama got reelected.
Jeffro
@Lizzy L:
HRC inauguration speech, Jan 2017:
“…I have said repeatedly that I want to be president for all Americans, whether they voted for me, against me, or did not vote at all. But – as we saw in this election, and have unfortunately seen growing in intensity for decades – there is a growing desire on the part of some that if they cannot have their way entirely, or can no longer win elections, then they are willing to obstruct, go against historical precedent, and defy cherished norms to bring the entire country to a halt. That’s unacceptable. That, I will call out at every turn, and those obstructionists will learn just how alone they are.
So I ask those in the Senate, in the House, and those who vote for them: let’s work together to solve the issues of the day and keep moving forward. Neither side or party or faction is going to get everything it wants. But that doesn’t matter, as long as we are working together to take positive action to help the citizens of this great country…it used to be called ‘governing’ ”
(Or just, “ready or not, assholes, here I come…”)
gf120581
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Question:
What’s the difference between celebrities supporting Hillary and celebrities supporting Trump?
Answer:
The former still have careers.
Major Major Major Major
I’m loving being back on real, solar time. I always liked this time of year. I got really nostalgic and cozy just today, which was probably due to the time change. Yay!
redshirt
@West of the Rockies (been a while): So true, where’s Victoria been at?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
PsiFighter37
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: They finally realized the song wasn’t what they thought it was?
Omnes Omnibus
@gf120581: Mic drop.
NotMax
Trump and Nugent gonna belt out a duo of Pussy Scratch Fever?
hovercraft
@redshirt: Was Ted Nugent tonight? I thought he was with him tomorrow, I was looking forward to the battle of the Rock Stars. I wonder who’s the bigger draw, The Boss or Nugent? This is the real reason republicans hate Hollywood and celebrities, they always back democrats, and leave all the B-lister to the GOP.
Schlemazel
@gf120581:
Or in jail!
I know we are not supposed to make jail rape jokes but man I want to make an exception for that POS Nugent
RSR
Philly (and PA) is almost entirely election day only GOTV–no early here and very limited absentee. Weather is going to be great both Monday and Tuesday according to accuweather. This rally, especially with the location and Springsteen addition announced today, will be a huge civic event tomorrow. I RSVP’d on the Springsteen news. We’re only a 20 minute walk away. Not sure I’ll head out; we’ll see.
gf120581
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The ghost of Reagan is spinning like a turbine.
How many stops does Trump have? My bet is these aren’t from any strategy; they’re just him trying to cram in as much adulation as he can get before he loses on Tuesday.
Punchy
This shit is so played. It’s like the NRA complaining that about a sudden lack of deer to hunt. Or Catholic priests bemoaning the inability of little boys to trust them. Or Cole bitching about never getting married.
different-church-lady
@lamh36: that’s gotta be the worst rendition of “Institutionalized” ever.
Citizen Alan
@redshirt:
Given Victoria’s insistence that Obama was the Antichrist, I’d assumed she was hidden away in a cave somewhere awaiting the Rapture.
japa21
Had dinner with the son and DIL tonight (the local one not the Army one) and found out we are going to be grandparents again. Talked about a lot of things and of course did get around to the election.
My DIL is from the Philippines and got her green card two years ago. Although none of us think Trump really has a chance of winning, she said that if she did she would hold off on her application for citizenship because she would want it to have his name on it.
hovercraft
CC is the joke.
The tweet should have ended after the first four words.
Schlemazel
@Major Major Major Major:
Time is a human construct, there is no such thing in the modern world as ‘solar time’. Put a stick in the ground & note when it has no shadow because the sun is directly overhead. It will not be noon where you live except if you accidentally hit it exactly right.
There were riots and people were burned alive when ‘railroad time”was enacted in the US and creating the system we have today.
Years ago I was in Batshit Bachmanns territory (not Batshit Tom Emmer’s district). And brain damaged dipshits called CST “Gods time”) They did not like ti when I explained to them that noon CST in Central MN was not really noon to God. They were, and still are morans in every sense of that word
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Why do they hate America? Sad!
Dork
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Joe Piscapo is still alive? And he’s a Republican? So he went the Dennis Miller route, eh?
Patricia Kayden
@WarMunchkin: It’s hard for White Supremacists like Coulter to tell Negresses apart, doncha know?
redshirt
@japa21: Congrats on your awesome family!
Face
@Adam L Silverman: I see from Beyonce’s shirt that she too is with Hep. A, B, or C, I am unawares.
Schlemazel
@Dork:
He, like Carrot Top, became heavily involved in steroid abuse.CT has remained quiet but Joe has proven PEDs cause brain damage & destroy comedy.
redshirt
@Citizen Alan: Alas, I remember long ago when I laughed at her jokes. I don’t want to hate her. Sigh.
Patricia Kayden
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Springsteen will love that. Getting booed by bigots is a good thing.
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
Game over, man! Game over! No way Hillz recovers from this.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Twitter Nixon and/or Jack Donaghy voice: Good god
Adam L Silverman
@Face: ugh…
redshirt
Kelly Ayyotte actually just had a cute ad of her and her daughter fooling around playing basketball. Good ad for the no-nothings I think.
Adam L Silverman
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: They’re all 7-11s to refill her super big gulp.
PsiFighter37
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Is this real?
Regine Touchon
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: where is princess dumbass
of the north woods?
Adam L Silverman
@japa21: Mazel Tov, Mumtez Jiddan, and Congratulations!!!!
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
@Dork: failed SNL comics never die, they just
fade awaybecome republicans.Patricia Kayden
@NotMax: Lol! That would be the perfect way for Trump to end his campaign.
redshirt
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Jackson, Piscopo… who else?
Major Major Major Major
@Schlemazel: I am actually familiar with the history of time-telling. This does not change the fact that for most of the readers here, the method of doing so changed dramatically today, which is the entire point of what I wrote.
Patricia Kayden
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: ??? What the..??
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: The union head already stated, last week, that they’ll go back to work for election day if they haven’t resolved things before then, then go back out on strike on Wednesday.
NotMax
@David Blue Wall Koch
Scheduled to make 4 stops.
She’ll quit after 2.
**rimshot**
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
@PsiFighter37: yup.
list of stops
1. a bar & grill in Cinny
2. a trump campaign office in Kettering
3. an airport in Fayette
4. an a german restaurant in Zanesville.
(link)
Regine Touchon
@Jeffro: Touché
different-church-lady
@redshirt: Miller.
According to sources, Jackson was already batshit wingnut when she started on SNL
Face
@Schlemazel: Mind. BLOWN. Carrot Top did roids? For reals or you just making a funny?
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
@redshirt: Dennis Miller, babe.
also too Rob Schneider and david spade. Sad!
Adam sandler has always been republican, but he was never funny.
Juice Box
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Were they booing or just chanting “Bruuuuuuce”? It’s hard to tell the difference.
Adam L Silverman
@Face:
http://imgur.com/qbWC8BP
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: I know. Turning back the clocks only 47 minutes was certainly more drama than anyone anticipated.
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
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Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: You are a truly horrible person.
japa21
@Adam L Silverman: Toda. I think that is correct.
Matt McIrvin
@Major Major Major Major: The mornings are nice, but the afternoon darkness really gets to me.
redshirt
@different-church-lady: Oh yeah. How could I forget? That’s like Hannibal forgetting to bring elephant snacks for his hike across the Alps.
redshirt
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: Adam Sandler????? No way.
Face
@Adam L Silverman: I knew he was muscular but can you prove it to be roids? Seems unseemly for a FAU grad.
chopper
@different-church-lady:
I’m not a puppet
You’re the one that’s a puppet
Adam L Silverman
@japa21: For the first one, yes (though you need an “h” on the end. The second is Arabic. Means most excellent.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: Now I’m just confused.
And you don’t think shifting the period of daylight by around 10% is dramatic? It’s quite a lot, bodies are sensitive to these things.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Messes me up for at least a week.
japa21
@Adam L Silverman: Teaches me not to trust Google for translations. Obviously, I am not a linguist. Won’t even try for the Arabic response, though my guess is it would be very close.
GregB
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Did he adjust his fedora and drive away in a Rambler?
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: I want Daylight Savings Time to die in a fire.
Adam L Silverman
@Face: I have no idea what, if anything, he’s taking. I can tell you it is very, very hard to stay that cut down in terms of body fat % all the time. Given the way his face appears to have changed, I’d think its more likely he’s on human growth hormone. This would explain the ability to maintain under 7% bod fat all the time and his face/head appearing to have gotten bigger and more pronounced. Honestly, I don’t really care one way or the other or think about it much.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: Saving, singular. And it’s over until Spring! Yayy
NotMax
@Major Major Major Major
Surprised the Repubs haven’t started pushing a return to the Julian calendar.
different-church-lady
@Adam L Silverman:
How would human growth hormone have any effect on Carrot Top?
Adam L Silverman
@japa21: shukran (thanks)
Doug R
@lollipopguild: You’d think the Trumpenfurer brigade would know about getting in formation.
redshirt
@NotMax: Why not the Old Testament Jewish calendar then?
different-church-lady
@Major Major Major Major: [blink]
How long have I been saying this wrong?
Punchy
@Adam L Silverman: I, for one, am devestated that you are unwilling to perpetually fret about the abs and lats apearance of a unfunny, wildly overrated Vegas prop comic.
hovercraft
@Betsy:
Obama’s Manassas VA and the Charlotte NC speeches on the eve of the 2008 election was where huge, it was a poignant moment because we knew he was going to win, but it was also the day his grandmother died. It serves as a mic drop and a thank you to your supporters. I’m sure the pundits will tell us tomorrow that it’s a sign of how nervous they are, and how they need to shore up their base. Photo.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: Don’t worry, everybody gets it wrong. Two days a year I get to be pedantic about it!
schrodinger's cat
@different-church-lady: You and me both. I hate it when it gets dark at 4.
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Yet.
hovercraft
@WarMunchkin: @lollipopguild:
Both light skinned with big butts, nough said.
NotMax
@redshirt
Too Jewish.
SATSQ. ;)
different-church-lady
@schrodinger’s cat: in that case, doesn’t that mean you actually love DST?
Miss Bianca
Oh, this is so cool. SO.COOL. Mere words cannot express the cool of this strategy. Thank you, Beyonce, Bruce et al. Thank you POTUS and FLOTUS, thank you Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Big Dog. LET’S TAKE THIS THING!
redshirt
@NotMax: I thought they loved Israel?!
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
@Adam L Silverman:
That was reported in some places but is not true. I’m looking for a statement by Union President Willie Brown but haven’t located it yet.
Here is a story about an injunction SEPTA tried to get to force the union back to work on Tuesday. The court turned them down.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@redshirt:
Know-nothings.
redshirt
@Steeplejack (tablet): NO! NOTHING!!!
Adam L Silverman
@different-church-lady: Fine, he’s on Miracle Grow:
https://www.miraclegro.com/smg/gosite/MGRO/home?pageUrl=mgroHome&cmp=kid/Gardens/Google_SEM/Brand/G_Gardens_Brand_Do_CoreTerms/G_Gardens_Brand_Do_CoreTerms&s_kwcid=AL!4676!3!102709581998!e!!g!!miracle%20grow&[email protected]:20161107034740:s
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: We live in a society that is more or less based on Roman (from Rome, not your hobbyhorse about Constantinople) life. Variations and oddities and all, but fundamentally Rome is our starting point.
schrodinger's cat
@different-church-lady: I hate the short days of winter and lack of sunlight.
SgrAstar
@lamh36: Dear Iamh, next time please consult the SF locals who abound on BJ. We will steer you right. ❤️
Major Major Major Major
@schrodinger’s cat: Your beef’s with winter, not with DST.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: You really want to celebrate New Year either in August, September, or October?
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Dear God, the eye-bleed. W.T.F?!
ETA: Honest to Dog, I thought y’all were joking with the Carrot Top stuff. Or making an obscure reference to Trump. Now I don’t know what to think.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: New Year’s Eve in October sounds awesome actually.
Adam L Silverman
@Punchy: He is the unfortunate result of the government’s secret attempt to clone Wendy from the fast food franchise. Unlike X-23, the female clone of Wolverine, this attempt is completely irredeemable.
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
Aargh, I see we still have the bug that editing throws you into moderation. That was fixed briefly.
I was trying to edit my comment #103 to post a link to this story which clearly says that SEPTA tried to get the courts to stop the Philadelphia strike for Tuesday, but failed.
There was a statement by the transit union president sometime last week denying the rumors that they’d agreed to suspend the strike for Tuesday, I can’t find that statement but am still looking. You can read his comments in the above article about how the elections won’t work as leverage.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Don’t disagree. But your dig about the Eastern Empire is incorrect. They certainly set the template for the Slavic world.
Adam L Silverman
@Ceci n’est pas mon nym:
You’re right, I misread SEPTA representative, or rather misprocessed it, as union rep.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Do you live in the Slavic world?
different-church-lady
@Adam L Silverman: well, we use to do it in March…
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: I think new year makes sense at one of the solstices.
schrodinger's cat
@Major Major Major Major: I don’t like time changes either, they through everything off, especially the fall back is worse. I hate it when it becomes dark before 4.
David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: At least he wasn’t wearing clown makeup…
LookingForACanadian
@Major Major Major Major: This
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: I live in the World.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Ack!
Adam L Silverman
@Ceci n’est pas mon nym: I freed it. Not sure why it went into moderation and I’ve already responded.
opiejeanne
@Adam L Silverman: Not so much: I had Hep C.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Agreed 100%.
In my Religion, each Solstice and Equinox is a High Holiday.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Disingenuous.
Major Major Major Major
@schrodinger’s cat: The spring time change messes me up royally. I don’t do that direction well at all, which makes travel especially annoying as I’m on the west coast.
Adam L Silverman
@different-church-lady: Ancient Hebrews too. Rosh Hashanah is really the religious New Year, not the temporal one. That’s actually at Passover in the Spring.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: It’s true though. Even here ensconced high in my mountain compound.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: Hindus too, Gudi Padwa in Maharashtra, Baisakhi in Punjab that mark the New Year is usually in late March, early April.
Is the Jewish calendar lunar?
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Interesting that the Jewish New Year marks, more or less, the beginning of the academic year.
ETA: My undergrad’s academic year tended to match the Oxbridge system.
seaboogie
@PatrickG:
Heh. So when I was phonebanking in NorCal today, we were to bring our phones and laptops/tablets with us. Lady next to me had difficulties with her phone, so the staff brought her a “burner” phone. We just looked at each other and laughed. It was like spy movie meets Dem/Prog potluck dinner.
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: Its a hybrid. Solar adjusted lunar calendar. So it has a three month (give or take a day) wobble compared to the Gregorian calendar. The Muslim (hijrah) calendar is a completely lunar calendar, which is why it wobbles one full month every year compared to the Gregorian calendar.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: again with the clown stuff? Or should I say, ‘still’?
(IOW, “What have I done…?”)
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Depends, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. It wobbles every three years. Some earlier, some later. This year it was in October.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: Hindu religious calendar is also solar adjusted with 12 months of 30 days each and an extra month every 4 years.
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: Judaism has, depending on the year, one or two leap months. Not every month on the calendar is 30 days.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: -ish?
Miss Bianca
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch: That asshole Comey seems to be fucked both coming and going. And I say, good. Good.
I am astonished by the quivering intensity of my desire to see that partisan douchenozzle fired. Straight up FIRED, and have PBO name chapter and verse as to the incrediblly disgraceful, distasteful reasons as to why. And to announce that the FBI is going to undergo a thorough house-cleaning.
Where’s my pony?
Ceci n'est pas mon nym
@efgoldman: Not sure what’s happening Monday as far as the courts.
However, it looks like other unions are organizing a van pool to get voters to the polls.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Yep, its not a clean translation calendar to calendar.
James E Powell
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch:
You’re kidding, right? She’s got to be going to Columbus & Youngstown, no?
misterpuff
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Halperin can be funny? What happens if he becomes self aware?
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: I am not a data driven person. I just want votes for Hillz. I have done/ will do what I can.
Lizzy L
@misterpuff: The universe ends. But it’s not going to happen, so relax.
Major Major Major Major
@misterpuff: @Lizzy L: yeah, especially given that that wasn’t actually funny.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Adam L Silverman:
Can you report out a link for that? Because:
BR
@PsiFighter37:
A local acquaintance — a 70-something Chinese-American man who voted GOP all his life — told me a couple months back he is voting for Clinton this year. That Trump was a bigot and that he couldn’t stay GOP and that he had to be stopped. He also unregistered as a GOPer.
gwangung
Voting in Texas.
Hispanic voting, hm?
Major Major Major Major
@Steeplejack (tablet):
That’s rich. So when the union picked their strike date it just emerged fully formed from the head of Zeus, but worrying it might affect the election, why, that’s trying to use the election for leverage!
Omnes Omnibus
@srv: You have no idea how horrible a person you are.
reality-based (the original, not the troll)
@David ?▶️?Blue Wall?▶️? Koch:
– – and George R.R. Martin! ! I loved the “Hold the Door” allusion he used with New Mexico Volunteers. I’m sure everyone but me knew about this days ago – I was offline for a couple of days – but geez, if the Dems could get the “Game of Thrones” vote! – – –
Martin campaigning for Hilary
amk
@srv: Idiot.
Suzanne
Mr. Suzanne and I spent yesterday canvassing. It was our last shift this year. We already voted. Now it’s just time to let go and let FSM.
I need some positive distraction to get me through Tuesday. Let’s help Cole pick out some new furniture. If he has to have a comfy chair in his living room, I suggest this classic Eames chair:
Suzanne
@Suzanne: DAMNIT WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY LINKS TODAY.
Eames chair.
redshirt
The North Remembers.
trollhattan
Don’t know whether it’s been mentioned: Sam Wang has Dem senate takeover probability at 80%; Clinton win at 99%. Make it so.
cckids
@lamh36: lol. Last year, my daughter was on a solo road trip up the CA coast; she spent a night in San Fran, had the same problem. She actually got unnerved driving there, found a parking garage & walked around the waterfront (and where-ever), sightseeing. Later, trying to find a dinner place, she also ended up at IHOP, because it was right by her hotel. She caught some crap from her foodie-type friends, but she was very happy with it.
hueyplong
In my role as broken record, I again call for Obama to fire and then pardon Comey. Chaffetz could spend a year or two chasing that rabbit to see what “crime” that two-timing Comey had committed on behalf of Hitlery while he was assuring GOPers of the FBI’s assistance in the election.
Major Major Major Major
@trollhattan: he said yesterday on Twitter during the nerd slap-fight that if he could, he would adjust one of the numbers on his model, which would bring her down to about 93%. FYI. Nate Silver still sucks though.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Major Major Major Major:
Inorite.
rikyrah
@lamh36:
I know that I should not laugh, but I love travel stories like this.
GrandJury
@Punchy: That just reminded me why huffpost is in fact not any different than the rest of the media. Always gotta play the both sides do it game.
Trump assaults women and hates immigrants and cheats on his taxes and lies constantly and never met a business he couldn’t bankrupt and btw where are the tax returns and and and…..buh but emails.
Fuck you Huffgluepost.
Mike J
Oy. Raced yesterday. Still sore. I usually drive my club’s boat. Yesterday I was foredeck crew on somebody else’s Etchells. You can tell how old the people on a sailboat are by where their position is. Front to back, youngest to oldest.
Dutch Treat and a Klondike bar is the proper way to recover.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Go see Doctor Strange.
redshirt
@Mike J: I’d literally do anything for a Klondike Bar.
magurakurin
@cckids: Don’t know about access issues but BurgerMeister is pretty damn good. I went to the one in Cole Valley just off of the Muni train, but there is one in the Castro on Church near the Market trolley line. Worth a look if you are looking for a burger in SF.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: It reminded me of a line from Futurama: This is like that drug trip I saw in that movie while I was on that drug trip!
Suzanne
@redshirt: I cleaned my house. I am a stress-cleaner. It’s my way of asserting control over something, anything.
NR
Couple of statistics from Florida early vote:
Hillary passed Obama in total black voters who participated in Early Voting in Florida.
2012: 539,000
2016: 564,000 (not counting today)
And well over 50% of all FL Hispanic early voters have either no voting history, or just 1 of last 3 elections. Among NPA, it’s 2/3rds.
So long as Dems aren’t cannibalizing too much of their election day vote, this is good news.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m now confused about what we’re talking about.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Yes! Why not Zoidberg?
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack (tablet): I screwed up my reading of the reporting. As I indicated in an earlier comment, where the reporting indicated SEPTA representative I, for some strange reason, processed it as Union representative.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Sometimes you have to let go of control, and go with the flow.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: Poor Zoidberg.
redshirt
@NR: ????
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: He was deplorable, was he not?
FlipYrWhig
@NR: WHY OH WHY CANT WE HAVE A BEYTER CANDIDATE STUPID FEMICRATS wait what where’d everybody go?
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: No, no special prosecutor. The minute you do that you lose complete control of the investigation. Doesn’t matter that they’re not an independent prosecutor, but they still have too much power to basically look into whatever they want if they can tie it to their original charter. The DOJ IG and the investigative lead at DOJ’s/FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility should be tasked with doing a thorough investigation and whatever is found that may be criminal should be turned over to the professional prosecutors in the public corruption section to decide whether prosecution is or is not warranted. And this counts for everyone involved in this mess.
danielx
@Miss Bianca:
Same place as mine, somewhere under a pile of manure.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Adam L Silverman:
Cool. I have read the rest of the thread. But I have no idea why a SEPTA rep would say the union was coming in for an election-day one-off.
We’ll what happens tomorrow.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: No, he just smelled bad.
NR
@redshirt: NPA=No Party Affiliation.
redshirt
@NR: I’m a member of no party either, and yet it seems obvious which side needs my support. Are you blind to this?
Adam L Silverman
@efgoldman: What will be will be.
jenn
I mentioned earlier that the New York FBI office got a new head of the criminal division. Here’s the press release.
I haven’t the least idea about this guy, but it’s possible that he’ll be able to clean up that office.
NR
@redshirt: I’m supporting Clinton. But I was talking about the Florida early vote.
redshirt
@NR: Florida’s f’d up bro.
Amir Khalid
Springsteen campaigned for Kerry in 2004, as I recall: there was a Vote for Change tour that year with the E Street Band and a number of other classic-rock acts like John Fogerty. He also campaigned for Obama in 2008 and 2012. But he was a reticent about making a big public endorsement of Hillary, despite preferring her as a candidate; he said in Rolling Stone that when it came to political statements, he figured a musician had only so many pullets to fire. Still, I’m glad to see him publicly on board with her.
Adam L Silverman
@Steeplejack (tablet): When I went back and reread it, I think what the SEPTA rep was trying to say was that they were seeking an injunction or to enjoin them through the courts to make them do so. It really wasn’t reported very clearly.
NR
@redshirt: I’d say the early vote looks good, but there’s an important qualifier: We still don’t know who’s going to show up on election day. Dems could still potentially get swamped. Hopefully more low-propensity Dem voters will show up on Tuesday.
Mike J
@Amir Khalid: Reload the chicken gun.
redshirt
@NR: Why are you so reticent? What are you afraid of?
Adam L Silverman
@Mike J: Can I get my chicken jerked please?
redshirt
NSFW from here I fear…..
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: I fixed it to clarify I was referring to the Jamaican marinade on chicken.
Bess
@magurakurin:
If you are going out to eat in SF these days go by mass transit or taxi. You can’t get there by car any longer.
Peale
@redshirt: nah. This is mostly a family blog. No chicken jerking. At least not without permission. We’re a pulletically correct blog.
danielx
@efgoldman:
Agreed, but I can’t see where it’s going to make them more crazy than they already are. It will be good for them.
NR
@redshirt: I’m afraid of a Trump presidency. As any rational person should be.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
@Amir Khalid:
Wait, he has a chicken cannon? Does Betty know about this?
Major Major Major Major
Sam Wang has a new piece at PEC about how much Nate Silver sucks. I’m kidding, of course–it’s about how Sam comes to his conclusions in his forecasts and how much Nate Silver sucks.
Mike J
Less than 24 hours until voting starts on election day. Dixville Notch will vote at midnight, Tuesday morning.
I’m predicting 13-8, Clinton
Mike J
Anybody feel that? A DDOS attack? Is twitter down?
NoraLenderbee
Reposting an exchange from earlier thread because I love it so much:
@Corner Stone:
@Baud:
NotMax
@Suzanne
Feel free to come by anytime to work off your stress that way here. Will leave the door open. Help yourself to anything in the fridge.
(Gave up accepting allowing stress to be an option some 15 years ago.)
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@redshirt: @redshirt:
Ernst Stravo Blofeld, is that you?
Peale
@danielx: I don’t know what to do about it. Do flying monkeys run on a renewable energy source? I figured after 7 years and 9 months they’d run out of energy. But they howl and howl and just fly faster. Maybe we just get them flying so fast that they reach escape velocity and we never hear from them again?
Amir Khalid
I meant “bullets”, guys! “Bullets”! I don’t even know how I managed that typo, with B and P so far apart on my laptop keyboard.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
I call fowl.
;)
(ducks)
;) :)
Mnemosyne
@Bess:
I’m going to be up in SF for one day later this month and I’m fully planning to use public transit the whole time. Trying to rent a car for a one-day trip would just be dumb, especially in an area that has great public transit.
Peale
@Amir Khalid: its a good aphorism anyway. But we need to invent the folk tale or fable behind it to give it a robust origin.
Fair Economist
@Mike J:
I can’t get through either. It’s like some foreign entity controlling a lot of hackers wants to be absolutely sure a certain Presidential candidate can’t say something stupid on Twitter.
Mnemosyne
@West of the Rockies (been a while):
Can’t be. redshirt doesn’t have a bunker.
Major Major Major Major
@Fair Economist: I’m taking the whole thing down because I’m still mad that Al Giordano blocked me yesterday.
NotMax
Mike J
One can hope.
Peale
@Fair Economist: reminds me that Trump’s camp claimed to have built this huge social media destroying army that it would unleash in these end times. Claimed to have spent $70 million a month on it. (So don’t ask again where all those donations went. It was spent on a secret weapon!). I’d laugh if they broke twitter trying to convince mmunicate with each other the last day. orca II.
Peale
@efgoldman: Somalia.
Redshift
@Major Major Major Major:
I think you may have misunderstood, based on a post Wang has up on the site now (or maybe he expressed it differently.) In the current post on this topic, he says not that he wants to adjust his model, just that estimating poll error is a judgment, and if he made the most conservative estimate he thinks could be justified, the win percentage would be 91-93%. To get 538’s estimate, he would have to assume an average error in state polls of 5%, which has never happened in the real world.
Mike J
@efgoldman: It was 15-6 in ’08 and 19-7 in ’04.
NotMax
@Mike J
“Rocky” Roque De La Fuente still has a chance!
Major Major Major Major
@Redshift: I believe he also said that the more conservative estimate on his range (~93%) was probably a better way to do it, but it’s a tweet and I’m going from memory.
NotMax
@efgoldman
(Precinct captain studies the registration book.)
“Who’s Dick Hertz? Has anyone seen Mai Balzac? Jenny Sehquah?”
sukabi
@NotMax: won’t matter how many she shows up for, she’ll be hammered the entire time.
sukabi
@Adam L Silverman: THAT was not necessary.
Anne Laurie
@Amir Khalid: True story: I was a freshman in the pre-veterinary program at a midwestern university when the first chicken gun was being perfected. All of us had to take either Dairy Science 101 or Poultry Science 101, and I chose DS because of stories about feeding live chickens into the test gun.
Of course, it turned out that part of the Dairy Science practicum involved taking a 900lb bovine’s temperature… rectally. And even that wasn’t nearly as horrifying as watching the requisite film about the collection of champion bull semen, given the class was 30% young women hoping to someday be pet doctors and 70% young men planning on inheriting the family dairy business.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym
@Anne Laurie: Good old Moo U. I remember the U of Michigan band performing its tribute to the School of Animal Husbandry at halftime of every home MSU game.
magurakurin
@Mnemosyne: San Fransico has adequate public transport. If anyone thinks it is great they have never been to place with great transport. And the one day and three day tourist pass is a decent deal but poorly designed. It is too big. The way to go, though, if you are wanting to ride the cable cars.
qwerty42
@different-church-lady: I want Daylight Savings Time to die in a fire.
Nah. I won’t notice the days getting shorter through Christmas and New Year, but then comes the slog through January and February, and the short days and cold weather (if we get snow/ice it will almost certainly be then) and it seems grim. (Although precip of any kind would be welcome right now)
gratuitous
Popular media reporters are wondering if this last-minute campaigning by Clinton will have any effect. Do the free concerts sway anyone? Do the large crowds and the big enthusiasm for Clinton mean anything?
What are “Questions that were never asked about Trump rallies,” Alex? Enthusiastic Trump rallies were presented as prima facie evidence of his supporters’ commitment; there was rarely any interviewing of Trump supporters that went beyond people just excited to be there. Nobody was asked about specific policy proposals, nor was there any probing of supporters’ psyches deeper than making America great again.
Try to think of the last time you saw an enthusiastic Clinton supporter speaking on the evening news.