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Open Thread: Hillary Clinton, President & Michelle Obama, Bruce Springsteen, Jon Bon Jovi Rally in Philadelphia, PA

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Suspect there will be some fireworks at this rally…

Meanwhile: What’s on the agenda for the evening?

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  5. 5.

    BD of MN

    We don’t need no stinkin’ celebrities, so let me introduce, uh, Joe Piscopo and Ted Nugent !!!!

  6. 6.

    mai naem mobile

    Just got a call on my cell from the RNC saying the FBI is reopening it’s investigation into Hilz’ emails and that Dems should vote for Trump. Tried to push back but it was just a call center operation and the guy just repeated himself. Thanks James Comey.

  9. 9.

    Corner Stone

    Tweety is the Jon Gruden of political punditry. Every show his guests have to be “the best, the absolute best” at something or other.
    Just say “thank you”, you fucking putz.

  11. 11.

    RSR

    here’s a local reporter on the ground at the event with pix and details: https://twitter.com/aubreyjwhelan

    from mid afternoon:

    The line to get into @HillaryClinton’s rally w/ POTUS, FLOTUS and Bruce Springsteen stretches from Chestnut to Catherine St — almost a mile

    HRC guy directing the line says we’ll all get in because the Independence Mall lawn holds 30,000. This is pope-level line-waiting

  16. 16.

    jl

    Appeal to men? I don’t get it.
    Here is my thinking on the issue.
    I am a man. Beyonce and Katy Perry appeal to me.
    What am I missing?

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m very glad that these superstar dudes are performing to help Dems. But… no shivers going up my leg (apologies for stealing Matthews’ line).

  18. 18.

    Mnemosyne

    @Mary G:

    Anecdotally, people at work were complaining about that. I did not early vote, and now I’m wondering what time I should get to the polls. I’m leaning towards 7:30 am, just in case.

  20. 20.

    Corner Stone

    IMO we are in “unskewing the polls” territory. I think when they start releasing vote totals tomorrow this is going to be over before Cole’s bedtime.

  22. 22.

    MomSense

    No one is answering their phones!!! Maybe I need to put on a sultry voice but I already have issues with women wondering who the heck I am when I call for the male of the house.

  26. 26.

    Anne Laurie

    @jl:

    Appeal to men? I don’t get it.

    MANLY MEN need other Manly Men to reassure them that it’s okay to vote for… you know… a woman. It’s not that they’re misognynists or anything, it’s just — peer pressure is a real thing, y’know?

    Or so goes the market-think. It’s the mirror-image of ‘Sure, it’s strong enough for a man, but us ladies like it too!’

  27. 27.

    donnah

    We voted early and even then the turnout was in the hundreds. I’m hoping for big crowds of Clinton voters and a landslide for her. It would be a wonderful tribute to her hard work and perserverence and the amazing effort to GOTV.

  32. 32.

    dmsilev

    @Mike in dc: Traditionally, the loser speaks first. Somehow, I think we might see something different tomorrow evening. Maybe Trump will, in a last act of defiance, wrestle back control of his phone and Tweet out his anger.

  34. 34.

    Mnemosyne

    @jl:

    I think it’s supposed to show sexist men that these guys aren’t afraid to vote for a woman president. If you’re not so sexist that you would refuse to vote for a woman, then it’s not going to appeal to you.

  38. 38.

    Jeffro

    What’s on the agenda for this evening? Why, me and Mrs. Fro are going to go meet us a couple’a Veeps (and their lovely wives), that’s what…PSYCHED!

  42. 42.

    dance around in your bones

    I’ve been in a Bruce Springsteen passion lately – don’t know where it sprang from but have been replaying his videos and falling for him all over again. He did an interview where he called Trump ” a flagrant,toxic narcissist” on Democracy Now. The Boss is ….. The Boss.

  47. 47.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Wow, Tweety is pushing back on 19 year old Guardian reporter whose trying to push the idea that ht eCLinton Foundation is under investigation.

  49. 49.

    Lizzy L

    @TS:

    Is everyone insane this election?

    Yeah, pretty much.
    I think Tweety discussing the Trump Cabinet is unhinged. Or else it’s performance art.

  50. 50.

    Brachiator

    What’s on the agenda for the evening?

    Not much planned. Just cooling out and waiting for the election frolic.

    I saw Doctor Strange yesterday. Fun movie, with a few nice variations on the superhero origin story.

    Some women in the audience with whom I saw the movie squealed and clapped when Mads Mikkelsen first appeared, and squealed again for Cumberbatch. I hope the movie execs realize that they are playing to the female gaze and not just delivering up standard issue male fantasies.

    Cumberbatch easily owns the role. The movie made $84 million domestic and already $325 million worldwide. Marvel may want to roll up a truck full of money to keep Benedict as happy as they are keeping Robert Downey Jr.

    At the end, some in the audience worked for or knew people in one of the effects houses that worked on the film and cheered. This was cool. Everybody had a good time.

    If you see the movie, you might want to stay past the final end credits.

    Some colleagues also saw Mel Gibson directed “Hacksaw Ridge” and think that this is the best film of the year.

  52. 52.

    Anne Laurie

    @dmsilev:

    Has the psychic octopus that predicted the World Cup weighed in yet?

    Paul the Octopus died, we’re told, ‘honorably, of old age’.

    There’s a Trump supporter joke in there somewhere…

  54. 54.

    Gelfling 545

    @MomSense: I don’t know what the reasoning is or if it is a technical issue but caller id comming up ” unknown ” keeps a lot of people from answering. It’s impossible to tell if it’s a gotv call or somebody selling aluminum siding.

  55. 55.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Corner Stone:

    Tweety is the Jon Gruden of political punditry.

    Tweety is obviously Chris Berman. He’s been doing the same obnoxious shtick for 25+ years. THA RAIDAHS REAGAN DEMOCRATS BACK BACK BACK HA WHOOOOOP

  57. 57.

    mai naem mobile

    @Schlemazel: newly swingy state Arizona. Metro Phoenix where Trump better hold well or he’s going down. I am not getting my hopes up but glad that it’s scared the GOP so hopefully the local wing nuts will be forced not to be as wingnutty.

  60. 60.

    Hill Dweller

    I saw where President Obama told the “fired up, ready to go” story during his campaign stop in NH this afternoon. That brings back some memories from the ’08 campaign.

  62. 62.

    bemused

    Booman had a good post this morning about Trump’s bright future, well, not so much. I enjoyed it. I don’t think Trump will win and plan to celebrate Madame President Hillary with popcorn tomorrow night.

    People have commented on Republican friends, co-workers, family that are stunned and reeling at what has happened to their party. Seriously, did they not see the disintegration of the party coming or at least have some gnawing worries until Trump came along and blew the doors off?

  64. 64.

    hovercraft

    Tweety had a moment of lucidity, Francesca Chambers of the Daily Mail tried to throw shade on Clinton, saying that if she wins the story will be that yes she’s the first woman president, but also how she’s clear of the FBI for now. Tweety asked what do you mean for now, she responded that there are still investigations and she was only cleared on the e-mails, but they could get her on something else. Tweety shot her down saying innocent till proven guilty, we don’t know of any other investigations except rumors spread by another network. She ended the segment looking down at her lap.

  65. 65.

    FlipYrWhig

    @bemused: The Republican Party and those who abet it by voting for it have been disgusting for my entire political life, and I’m 44.

  66. 66.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @hovercraft: and now he’s talking about Reagan Democrats, elitists, and out of control immigration.

    Could one fucking person point out that we have net zero immigration, that Reagan Democrats were Nixon Democrats and they’re dead, and there’s nothing more anti working class than trickle down economics

  67. 67.

    Steeplejack

    @MomSense, @Gelfling 545:

    I don’t have caller ID on my cell phone. It shows either the caller’s name, if they’re in my contacts list, or the actual phone number. I don’t answer unless it’s someone I know. Anyone else can leave me a message if they’ve got legitimate business, and I’m happy to call them back. I’m sure a lot of people do the same. Get-out-the-vote calls and polling calls don’t lend themselves to call-backs.

    ETA: And I can’t hear what the caller is saying in real time, like you could with an old-fashioned answering machine. So there’s no opportunity for “Whoa! Sultry voice! I’d better pick up.”

  68. 68.

    MomSense

    @Gelfling 545:

    Yes but the alternative is to have my caller ID show up (I’m using my personal phone) and then I’ll get call backs for days. I’ve made that mistake before.

  71. 71.

    Jeffro

    @bemused:

    People have commented on Republican friends, co-workers, family that are stunned and reeling at what has happened to their party. Seriously, did they not see the disintegration of the party coming or at least have some gnawing worries until Trump came along and blew the doors off?

    1) They really thought Trump was going to flame out and/or be forced out…never recognizing that in a primary, it’s people IN THAT PARTY who have to force the opposition out (call out his offensive shit so loudly that he’s toast). But they’ve countenanced some increasingly crazy stuff and even crazier people in the Obama years.
    2) They thought they were going to keep their warring factions glued together, all in service of a goal (keeping taxes low on the 1%) that most of the party doesn’t give a crap about. Uh-unh.
    3) They ignored the warnings when Mike Castle got primaried out, when Cantor got primaried out, when Boehner lost his job…heck, they could have looked back to 2009 or any year since…Palin’s more popular with the base than McCain, what does that tell you, GOP? The Tea Party ate the Republican Party.

    Kind of a side note: it dawned on me today that for most GOPers, it’s coming close to THREE DECADES since they’ve had a president they were okay with (much less really dug like we dig Obama and will dig Hillz). Think about it: GHWB (tax-pledge-breaking ninny); then Clinton (OMG!); then W (who they were okay with until 9/11, and then the Iraq War, and then Katrina, and then W trying to privatize their social security); and then Obama (OMG!!). And now they’re looking at 4 or 8 years of History’s Greatest Monster. Not excusing them one bit, just noting that it’s been 28 years and is about to be 32/36 years if not longer. No wonder they act like dead-enders.

  72. 72.

    Corner Stone

    @ThresherK:

    Paul’s services were held with melted butter and fresh lemon.

    That is so fucking wrong.

    It was clearly held in a Chinese Hot Pot.

  74. 74.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @FlipYrWhig: guys, maybe, like… his daddy? He did kinda break out of that when Obama made the thrills go up his leg, but it does seem he’s slipping back into what one of his producers called, back when the whole Tweety story broke (IIRC), full on Archie Bunker mode. Must be that he sense the approach of the Clenis.

    and it was mostly disappointing that he had two Dem congressmen on and neither one pushed back with much policy or fact

  77. 77.

    redshirt

    @Brachiator: Strange was great. Loved that final battle.

    Marvel actually shifted the production schedules of their movies in order to accommodate Cummberbatch’s schedule. They agreed with you: He’s made for the role.

  78. 78.

    bemused

    @FlipYrWhig:

    A lot of them for sure. The party fit them like a glove. It’s people that still were dewey-eyed over Reagan and truly believed it was the party of responsibility, moral values and so on that seem to be shell-shocked. How they missed the nasty underbelly, I don’t have a clue. Denial? Anyway, wondering it will play out with those R’s after the election.

  79. 79.

    Corner Stone

    Chuck Todd once again proves why he is the absolute best in the business. He tells us the most powerful voting coalition of the future is WWC, Hispanics and AA’s.
    When does anyone want to start betting on a pool that this “coalition” will actually form? 2040? 2080? Nebber?

  82. 82.

    bemused

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    He seems to have rose-tinted view of this Dem party he keeps talking about. If that ever even existed, it’s long gone. He also doesn’t seem to be all that excited about Hillary becoming prez or am I imagining that?

  83. 83.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bemused: He just cited 1972 as an example of a time when Michigan went Republican, so it could happen again.

    He is just fucking amazing sometimes. I know he would not (edited) like snarky panelists who mocked shit like that, but boy it would make for better television.

  85. 85.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bemused: He seems to have rose-tinted view of this Dem party he keeps talking about. If that ever even existed, it’s long gone

    In fairness, Oral Faubus and Sam Earvin could talk to a certain part of the “white working class”

    Hartmann was maybe the most talented cast member of SNL ever.

  87. 87.

    hovercraft

    @Corner Stone:
    The media is related to the WWC, so to them what their friends and families say and want is all important.
    This John Breabender is really trying hard to convince us that Trump has a shot, Obama and Clinton are in PA and MI because she’s in trouble.

  89. 89.

    hovercraft

    Activity on the stage finally, looks like the band is getting set up.
    Wow what a crowd. Maybe I should have gone, I’m less than 2 hours away.

  90. 90.

    Emerald

    Something wrong with the audio. Guy looks like he’s singing, but we’ve got nothing but instruments.

  92. 92.

    MazeDancer

    Rally with sound is being broadcast on C-Span.

    Streams and regular TV may have copyright problems. They couldn’t show Beyonce and Jay-Z either.

  93. 93.

    japa21

    Just got back from setting up our polling place and it was proof that Republicans and Democrats can work together. Have to be back there in around 10 hours to do all the final set up work and then enjoy my day handling the voting and shutting down shop. I am totally optimistic about tomorrow. Hillary will win, the Dems will end up with 51 or 52 Senate seats, and, although the GOP will continue having the majority in the House, it will be about a 10 seat margin.

  94. 94.

    MomSense

    @Steeplejack:

    Once this thing is over let’s do a music thread! I’m thinking we could use some happiness.

    In music news, my kid sent me a recording he did for me. He wrote a little melody and recorded it on his iPhone. Meant more to me than anything.

  96. 96.

    Citizen Scientist

    I gotta say I’m feeling good about PA. Got out to do some afternoon GOTV canvassing yesterday, and people are fired up. We had a ton of volunteers come from MD and DC, and a whole busload from NY state just showed up unannounced. AND the guy the spousal unit and I canvassed with was an admitted lifelong Republican who hadn’t voted for Obama, but couldn’t believe the insanity of this year’s R field (it helped that his wife is of Mexican heritage).

    And, the PA Senate race is now the most expensive one on the federal level ($162M). That’s the part i’m still a little nervous about, but from what we saw yesterday, I have a feeling McGinty is going to win.

    Gonna be tipping some whiskey tomorrow night, regardless of the outcome, I think.

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