Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Infrastructure week. at last.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

I didn’t have alien invasion on my 2023 BINGO card.

Whoever he was, that guy was nuts.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

Anyone who bans teaching American history has no right to shape America’s future.

Meanwhile over at truth Social, the former president is busy confessing to crimes.

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  1. 1.

    Trentrunner

    President-elect Trump just tweeted this:

    Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!

    Seems like he still needs that copy of Mr. Khan’s Constitution.

  11. 11.

    PhoenixRising

    …can we expect you to get back on likely impacts for health insurance over the coming months? When you’ve finished the bottle in front of you, or a frontal lobotomy, whichever sounds more appealing.

    Asking for a friend with previous cancer DX, married to a woman with previous cancer DX, whose only child has hearing loss she needs $3600 per ear of technology to assist.

  15. 15.

    Larkspur

    Has this been posted before? It’s a joint statement from California legislative leaders (well, at least two of them).

    Wednesday, November 09, 2016
    SACRAMENTO – California Senate President pro Tempore Kevin de León (D-Los Angeles) and California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon (D-Paramount) released the following statement on the results of the President election:

    Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California.

    We have never been more proud to be Californians.

    By a margin in the millions, Californians overwhelmingly rejected politics fueled by resentment, bigotry, and misogyny.

    The largest state of the union and the strongest driver of our nation’s economy has shown it has its surest conscience as well.

    California is – and must always be – a refuge of justice and opportunity for people of all walks, talks, ages and aspirations – regardless of how you look, where you live, what language you speak, or who you love.

    California has long set an example for other states to follow. And California will defend its people and our progress. We are not going to allow one election to reverse generations of progress at the height of our historic diversity, scientific advancement, economic output, and sense of global responsibility.

    We will be reaching out to federal, state and local officials to evaluate how a Trump Presidency will potentially impact federal funding of ongoing state programs, job-creating investments reliant on foreign trade, and federal enforcement of laws affecting the rights of people living in our state. We will maximize the time during the presidential transition to defend our accomplishments using every tool at our disposal.

    While Donald Trump may have won the presidency, he hasn’t changed our values. America is greater than any one man or party. We will not be dragged back into the past. We will lead the resistance to any effort that would shred our social fabric or our Constitution.

    California was not a part of this nation when its history began, but we are clearly now the keeper of its future.

    Joint Statement

  16. 16.

    Trentrunner

    Trump’s tweet is A VERY BIG DEAL.

    The Chief Executive and law enforcement officer of the US cannot abridge constitutional rights of assembly, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press.

    He’s no longer a candidate. He is President-Elect.

  19. 19.

    Jonkheer

    @Baud: Personally, I’m wondering if someone responsible for organizing the “Reid Machine” in NV would be a good choice, although such people might be more appropriate for a lieutenant role.

  21. 21.

    Fair Economist

    @Jonkheer: Dean has a good track record, and I don’t think DNC chair should be a part-time job. Ellison is already a Representative.

  23. 23.

    fuckwit

    @Trentrunner: He does not care.

    Nobody else cares.

    You seem to have missed the last election. Shall I summarize it for you?

    NOBODY FUCKING CARES ANYMORE. There are no rules. There is no Constitution. There are no rights. We are in an authoritarian dictatorship now.

  26. 26.

    Sicilian Dish

    Every other work out of my mouth right now is either Fuck or Oh Fuck! A couple more days and my vocabulary will be as tiny as that fucker with the fucking small hands.

  27. 27.

    Jonkheer

    Regarding Dean (too many folks have commented on him to choose one to reply too):

    Pro: He knows what he is doing. Can’t argue with results.

    Con: Has been working as a “consultant” for the healthcare/pharmaceutical industry. “Industry Consultant” often means lobbyist in practice, especially when the person in question is a former politician. Don’t know if that is true for Dean, but its the likely line the other side will go with, so it needs to be at least considered.

    Thoughts?

  29. 29.

    Jonkheer

    @Baud: Perhaps. Anyway, we don’t want National to poach too many NV people. We need the machine working there, too.

  31. 31.

    goblue72

    @Jonkheer: No. And I like Ellison. But no. Ellison’s district is Minneapolis and nearby suburbs. He’s a very liberal guy who knows what it takes to win in a very liberal district. The guy who held his seat previously was Martin Sabo, one of the most liberal guys in the House.

    Kay suggested people need Sherrod Brown involved as some level. He’s a good start. He wins in Ohio as an economic progressive and we need more of that, and he’s good as doing so while navigating through other issues where he can’t be all out on the left. And he gets the criticality of making labor a bigger part of the conversation.

  33. 33.

    Jonkheer

    @goblue72: Another worthwhile suggestion, although it does run into the “day job as a sitting politician” problem some folks have brought up. Then again, a figurehead DNC Chair with a right-hand (wo)man running day-to-day is a possible option.

  35. 35.

    CaseyL

    @Jonkheer: At this point, focus, energetic advocacy and competent administration are what I want in a national Chair. I don’t care who Dean works for now, except insofar as it gives him additional contacts to work with.

    Ellison would be great symbolically as a Muslim POC, but I agree that he needs to concentrate on being a Representative. I want someone who can give their undivided attention to the job. Provided there are elections in 2018, we HAVE to turn Congress.

  36. 36.

    GregB

    People forget that a lot if hsrd working American’s thought those dirty college kids at Kent State got what they asked for.

    There will be blood.

  38. 38.

    SenyorDave

    @Trentrunner: Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!

    Any link to the tweet? I’d like to pass it on

  40. 40.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud: @Jonkheer: Like him, but I don’t want any sitting officeholder in that position.

    That’s my first reaction, but most of all I would like to hear him spell out a strategy for local party building and candidate recruitment.

    The thing that drives me crazy when people talk about this issue, “Why don’t we have better candidates?” do you want people going through your garbage and internet history and god knows what else?

    We need a fifty state strategy! Great slogan, where does the money come from, and where and how do you spend it?

  41. 41.

    JMG

    He may not know what the Constitution means, but the courts, even the Supreme Court, do know. The Court loves being the ultimate arbiter of American power. They’re not giving it up for some President. Liberal or conservative, these people have bigger egos than pre-accident Steven Strange.

  43. 43.

    Jonkheer

    @CaseyL: Another consideration. Plus, Dean is largely remembered in the mass public as “that crazy yelling guy.” Say whatever else you want about that, but its not something most people associate with “corporate handmaiden.”

  45. 45.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Jonkheer: Con: Has been working as a “consultant” for the healthcare/pharmaceutical industry.

    and a neocon friendly group of Iranian ex-pats called the MEK, where his co-lobbyist is Newt Gingrich

    ETA:

    @Fair Economist: @Jonkheer: Dean has a good track record,

    Mostly, IMHO, due to events he had little to do with (Iraq, Katrina, Mark Foley, Jack Abramoff, Bush’s attempt to privatize Social Security….

  46. 46.

    Ruckus

    I think seventeen hundred words of profanity is about right.
    I’ll repeat something I posted in another thread.

    Toto, we all live in fucking Kansas now

  47. 47.

    goblue72

    @Baud: Interesting. I mean, all machines are to a degree localized. But Reid’s organization knows how to do something that is critical – it knows how to turn out Latinos. It is very, very good at that. And it also very good at interfacing and coordinating with unions. We need that too. Or rather, we need people who can help translate that elsewhere.

    Also, secondarily, Reid was a very early supporter of Obama – with some reporting that he urged Obama to run pretty early on because he didn’t think Clinton could pull off a general election victory. He’s got a nose for politics sharper than most. I remember when he became Senate leader and a lot of Dem activist types didn’t like it because they thought he was too centrist. He surprised them all with how sharply he ran things.

  50. 50.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    @Jonkheer: I doubt he wants the job but,uhm, the Reid machine is set up by almost former Senator Reid and,well, he is a great strategist and would make a fucking great DNC chair. Just sayin’

  51. 51.

    Iowa Old Lady

    We just watched some episodes of The Daily Show and The Late Show that we recorded before the election when they don’t yet realize that the apocalypse is nigh. One guest talked about how his wife died and he was raising his 7 year old daughter alone, but one thing that helped was he’d point at HRC and say look at all she’s put up with and how well she’s doing. It was like being at a horror movie, and character is about to open the door to the basement and go down the steps, and you can’t warn them.

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Know this is not an open thread and comment is off topic, but god damn this year of 2016 all to hell and gone, Leonard Cohen has died.

    Damn. And RIP. Hallelujah.

  54. 54.

    delphinium

    @SenyorDave: Just wait til someone asks Trump for his long-form birth certificate. Can’t be too careful with all of these immigrants sneaking in.

  55. 55.

    Larkspur

    I don’t know what’s worse: Trump governing for four years, or the probability that because he doesn’t like to read or study or get into the details of stuff, he’s going to get bored with most everything that isn’t bigly theatrical, and then Pence and Trump’s emerging cabinet of deplorables will just run wild while Trump mugs for the camera, tweets, hosts state dinners for uncomfortable leaders of other nations, and brags about how Melania is gold-plating everything in the White House.

    It doesn’t matter what’s worse. It’s all bad.

  56. 56.

    Emerald

    @Larkspur: I saw this on Twitter. Frankly I’m ashamed to be an American right now, but very proud to be a Californian.

    Also I think I’m lucky to live here. I really do think that California can at least mitigate some of the damage that will be caused by the feds. Maybe even somehow get California OneCare to work after the ACA gets shafted? After the ACA literally saved my life twice I don’t need it anymore ’cause I’m on Medicare now, but eventually they’re gonna trash that too.

    I hope we can help some of the rest of the nation, somehow. We’re bigly here. We might be able to do something.

  58. 58.

    Peale

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: yeah. If we’re going to have a national DNC that tries to insert itself in the selection of congress candidates, it would probably be a full time job. There is a reason why it isn’t done. The state and local party pooh bahs do that. I can’t imagine someone wanting to, say, stand between Cuomo and Schumer when they get into one of their petty faction tiffs about who should run for an open seat in New York.

  60. 60.

    Another Scott

    @Jonkheer: I don’t like Bernie’s e-mail (that I received just now):

    You cannot be a party which on one hand says we’re in favor of working people, we’re in favor of the needs of young people but we don’t quite have the courage to take on Wall Street and the billionaire class. People do not believe that. You’ve got to decide which side you’re on.

    Keith Ellison knows the importance of rejecting the policies of the political establishment and wealthy campaign contributors. He is prepared to take on the billionaire class and all forms of bigotry. He vigorously supports a $15 minimum wage, opposes fracking and dangerous oil pipelines, and he wants to get big money out of politics.

    I don’t think the political establishment and the billionaire class would like Keith Ellison as the DNC chair. Good.

    Keith also understands the stakes of what might happen under the Trump Administration. He knows just how dangerous it will be for Muslims, people of color, immigrants, our LGBT sisters and brothers, and so many others. His experience and perspective would be key to leading the fight against Trump.

    I’m sure a lot of you have some feelings about the Democratic National Committee. The truth is that it is an important entity to build, support, and maintain if we are to have the chance to organize and win in the coming elections while Trump is president.

    We must also do everything we can to elect Democrats to Congress in 2018, and to take back the White House in 2020. We need a Democratic National Committee led by a progressive who understand the dire need to listen to working families, not the political establishment or the billionaire class.

    That is why I support Keith Ellison to be the next Chair of the Democratic National Committee, and why I hope you’ll join me in advocating for him to lead the DNC.

    He’s still in his Millionaires and Billionaires™ mode. He’s a one-trick pony.

    Way to throw a bunch of crap on people who will be deciding who to support as the new leader, Bernie. Way to show us that you’re still oh-so-pure. Way to insinuate that Hillary was still in bed with Wall Street.

    Have you no shame, Bernie?

    Are you a Democrat now, Bernie? Are you going to run as a Democrat in 2018, Bernie?

    Where are your federal tax returns, Bernie?

    (sigh)

    Elllison may be a good choice, but like Baud, I’ve felt for a long time that DNC chair needs to be a full-time job – especially now. Ellison should stay in the House and fight the good fight there.

    My $0.02.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  61. 61.

    lamh36

    Hey Richard don’t know if you’re still around, but I had a healthcare/ACA question for you.

    Saw this on twitter:
    @MortuaryReport
    dire straits for chronically ill: @realDonaldTrump announced he will let the pre-existing conditions rule lapse & re-est. high risk pools

    Could this be a reality? I get insurance via my employer, so I think I’m mostly good. But my mother, who is only 47, and who has Congestive Heart Disease has health insurance here in NOLA via the ACA/People’s Health Insurance…So if GOP/Trump get rid of or repeal and dont’ replace ACA…I’m not really sure how my mother will be able to get insurance at a reasonable price!

  62. 62.

    Jonkheer

    @Peale: If it is a fight between Schumer and Cuomo, all the more need for a third force. Though maybe Schumer will surprise us like Reid did upon becoming Senate Leader.

  63. 63.

    raven

    I was born like this, I had no choice
    I was born with the gift of a golden voice
    And twenty-seven angels from the Great Beyond
    They tied me to this table right here in the Tower of Song.

  64. 64.

    Downpuppy

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m trying like heck to get more involved. Not a 50 state strategy, more a 10,000 town strategy

    The 2018 races are starting. We need to have an engaged, fun, educational partying party going everywhere to counter the disinformed voters who are taking their direction from talk radio, Fox & Racist Uncle Bill. Build it from the ground up, not the DNC down, & get moving!

  66. 66.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    I hope his failures and ridiculousness and foolishness are hung around his neck (and those of his supporters) AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. Conservatives must be made to own every mistake from here on out.

  67. 67.

    dance around in your bones

    Four years of Trumptwats. Sad.
    (Unless a cardiac infarction ensues….hey, a gal can hope!)

  72. 72.

    PeakVT

    Good grief, how many “my fees fees are hurt” tweets is the world going to be subjected to over the next four years?

  75. 75.

    lamh36

    I have been blocking or unfollowing political journos on twitter all day (from the right and the left) and I have def been the better for it.

    Anyway, I’m looking for a good “internet stick” for my laptop. Like I said, mom’s doesn’t have cable or internet, but if I could just get a internet stick for the laptop, I can manage no cable!

    Any suggestions?

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @PeakVT: how many cabinet meetings are going to be held on subjects like “How can we get him to stop tweeting?” while Trump is in the next room watching the View on DVR cause he heard Whoopi Goldberg said something mean about him.

  78. 78.

    BBA

    Here’s my xkcd of choice.

    Seriously, don’t even think about leaving the country, not when it needs us most. Hell, I was born here, and I was raised here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, and no sidewindin’ bushwackin’, hornswagglin’ cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter!

    …sorry, when I get mad I can slip into frontier gibberish.

  79. 79.

    Emerald

    @Iowa Old Lady:
    I watched the livestream of that Susan B. Anthony gravesite procession almost all day on Tuesday, feeling so great that we were going to elect the first woman president. At least we got to feel good for much of the day.

    And I must say that at first I was so sad that Janet Reno died on Nov. 7th, missing, I thought at the time, seeing Hillary win.

    Now I’m thankful for the timing.

  80. 80.

    Baud

    @lamh36: I love my Chromecast.

    Amazing how many people like us are turning off the media. Wonder if MSNBC’s viewership is in single digits.

  83. 83.

    jk

    @lamh36:

    Megyn Kelly is an asshole and one of my regrets about this campaign, besides the horrible fact of Trump winning, is that Kelly became a sympathetic figure because of Trump’s deranged comments about her.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    @Iowa Old Lady: I have multiple unwatched episodes of the The Late Show and The Late Late Show from before the election. Samantha Bee, too. I just don’t think I can watch them.

  87. 87.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Iowa Old Lady: Patton Oswald? very sad story

    @WaterGirl: I set aside that NYT story, the pre-mortem on the Trump campaign. I got distracted, then all hell broke loose. I think it’s kindling now.

  88. 88.

    lamh36

    @Baud: does Chromecast allow me to access the internet with my laptop? My mom does not have an ISP.

    So what I need is something I can plug into my laptop and be able to access at least the same 4G type hotspot that I get from my phone.

    Right now I”m using my phone but my data plan on that is already being shared with my phone and Ipad. I’d like to have the laptop have it’s own data plan.

  89. 89.

    Larkspur

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    A friend who’s an archaeologist just posted on FB that she’s going to Laos for 6 weeks to recover the remains of POWs and MIAs.

    That’s horrible but vital work. All the work that’s been done around the world – like in Southeast Asia and the Balkans – it’s necessary on both humanitarian and historical grounds. I’m impressed by your friend. I wish her strength, comfort, and safety.

    I personally have come to hate the term “closure”, but people need to know where their dead are. And bones and remains are how the dead testify.

  90. 90.

    goblue72

    @Matt McIrvin: These guys are sociopaths. They won’t care. Remember how many times they voted on ACA repeal bills. They weren’t joking. There will be no repeal and replace. There will be repeal and then “let insurance companies in South Dakota sell shit insurance to desperate uninsured people in New Jersey”. Oh, and cut Medicaid to the bone.

    We are not going to recognize the social safety net in this country after this sociopaths are done with it.

  91. 91.

    MomSense

    @lamh36:

    Oh great. What did people think would happen if they voted for these psychopaths?

    I feel like we are the Order of the Phoenix now. Might be a good time to reread the last three Harry Potter books.

  93. 93.

    Gus

    @GregB: @GregB: Read an interview with Jerry Casale of Devo. He was at the Kent State protest when four were killed. Two were friends. Up to then he was an optimistic hippy, but the whole experience gave him the idea for de-evolution. He said curfew was declared, townspeople were deputized and basically hippy hunting, though fortunately unsuccessfully.

  94. 94.

    MomSense

    @WaterGirl:

    I’m basically down to watching tai chi videos.

    Does anyone here remember the online language program that was recommended a week or so ago?

  95. 95.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Larkspur: The Defense Dept is sending her. She just changed jobs recently. She used to work for a consulting company in the Dakotas. When an oil company (or anyone) wanted to put in a road or a drilling platform, the land had to be surveyed to see if there were historically significant materials or sites there.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, that’s who it was.

  96. 96.

    Fair Economist

    @Jonkheer:

    Though maybe Schumer will surprise us like Reid did upon becoming Senate Leader.

    I think people are too negative about Schumer. He’s certainly friendly to the financial industry – and as the Senator from NY, how could he not be? – but he’s always been somebody who dan deal with progressives. I think he’s a good choice for bridging the divide between progressives and Blue Dog types, and we have both in the Senate and need to all hang together.

  99. 99.

    Another Scott

    @lamh36: Can you “borrow” a neighbor’s WiFi? ;-)

    A Chromecast and the like needs WiFi access to your cable internet (or similar).

    A HotSpot converts cellular radio service from your phone company into WiFi for your home network. It will use your cellular data. Some Hotspot plans have severe limits on how much data you can “tether”.

    Some of the phone companies have relatively cheap “data-only” plans for tablets. E.g. T-Mobile. But most laptops that have cellular radios aren’t cheap (e.g. a special option on a corporate Dell machine). Data-only cellular plans are usually used by tablets.

    HTH a little. Good luck.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  100. 100.

    Jonkheer

    @Fair Economist: A good point. Worth considering how Sen. Gillibrand surprised liberals upon becoming Senator, moving left from where she stood as an upstate Rep. Politicians respond to the pressures of their office(s), so Schumer should know he needs to lead people who want to move away from the financial sector.

  101. 101.

    Emerald

    @lamh36: Well at least that’ll give us control of the House and maybe even the Senate in 2018 if we have real elections.

    I really doubt they’ll try that until they have the authoritarian state completely locked into place. The Congresscritters know they’d be committing suicide.

    I mean, they’ll do it, but not right away, imho.

  102. 102.

    PhoenixRising

    @lamh36: She won’t. SATSQ.

    The GOP plan for those of us born with ticking time bombs inside us is, Be rich. Trump himself used health coverage for a nephew born with a disability as a leverage point in litigation with the child’s parents.

    The good news is that a LOT of Trump voters are going to get thrown into the hole with those of us who knew that the ACA saved our lives and/or homes. So it seems potentially fixable.

    For the moment she might want to look at moving to a better state or stockpiling her meds if she can.

  103. 103.

    raven

    “We’ve never been so divided”

    Really?

    @Gus: “The Faces of the American Dead in Vietnam: One Week’s Toll.”

    Here are some of the reactions from readers, published in the August 18, 1969, issue of LIFE—an issue in which the entire Letters section of the magazine was given over to responses to “One Week’s Dead”:

    Your story was the most eloquent and meaningful statement on the wastefulness and stupidity of war I have ever read.” — From a reader in California

    “Certainly these tragic young men were far superior to the foreign policy they were called upon to defend.” — From a U.S. Marine Corps Captain (resigned)

    “I feel you are supporting the antiwar demonstrators who are traitors to this country. You are helping them and therefore belong to this group.” — From a reader in Texas

    “I cried for those Southern black soldiers. What did they die for? Tar paper shacks, malnutrition, unemployment and degradation?” — From a reader in Ohio

    “While looking at the photographs I was shocked to see the smiling face of someone I used to know. He was only 19 years old. I guess I never realized that 19-year-olds have to die.” — From a reader in Georgia

    “I felt I was staring into the eyes of the 11 troopers from my platoon who were killed while fighting for a cause they couldn’t understand.” — From a Marine second lieutenant in New Jersey who commanded a rifle platoon in Vietnam.

    W

  104. 104.

    dance around in your bones

    First we take Manhattan, and then we take Berlin.

    Aw, gawd – then him getting totally ripped off while he’s off in a monastery?! And then coming back bigger and better than ever. What a man. Worth a quadrillion Twumps. I’d rather talk about Leonard, you see.

  105. 105.

    BBA

    I’d like to do some good in the world, to offset the damage my execrable race is about to cause. Is there a civil rights charity I can donate to that actually accomplishes shit? By which I mean, not the SPLC, which is to civil rights what the Komen Foundation is to breast cancer – a useless self-promoting money sink.

  107. 107.

    Shalimar

    @Trentrunner: Trump isn’t abridging the protestors rights in his role as President-Elect. He is merely pointing out as a normal citizen that any brownshirts who might be reading his tweets should maybe take care of these unfair people for him.

  109. 109.

    Emerald

    @Tazj: Yeah, I expect him to get rid of JFK’s desk and chair in favor of a gilded Louis XIV chair.

    He’s the king. He’ll want a throne.

    And he certainly won’t be using the desk much, except to rescind all of Obama’s executive orders. He can do that in a day or two.

  110. 110.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Chris Cillizza @ TheFix
    There is nothing more maddening — and counterproductive — to me than saying that Trump’s 59 million votes were all racist.
    Ridiculous.

    Simon Maloy ‏@ SimonMaloy 1h1 hour ago
    Simon Maloy Retweeted Chris Cillizza
    what about the actual racism
    Simon Maloy ‏@ SimonMaloy 1h1 hour ago
    [authoritarian bigot is elected to the most powerful office in the country]
    the online discourse…
    Simon Maloy ‏@ SimonMaloy 48m48 minutes ago
    as for Trump’s voters, they’re not all racists
    but they all own a piece of Trump’s racism, and there’s nothing wrong with saying that

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    @BBA: I was about to recommend the southern poverty law center. What makes you think they are like the loathsome Komen foundation?

  113. 113.

    PhoenixRising

    @BBA: I don’t know how to tell you this, and I hope you’re sitting down, but…the SPLC just became useful leaders in the resistance.

    If you have a website that lets citizens report hate crimes that gets more reports than theirs, please drop a link, and if not, get your head out of your ass. This is not a drill.

  115. 115.

    Emerald

    @MomSense: I use Duolingo and Memrise, which are both free, although you can upgrade on Memrise for a small fee if you want.

    Both work on smartphones, although Duolingo ties into the website better than Memrise does.

    I prefer Memrise, but both are really good, especially for vocabulary. Memrise does more on complete sentences, but only on the website. Hit both of ’em every day and you will learn a lot. They work on fairly constant repetition, which is essential.

  117. 117.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    Internet activism is ripe for encouraging divisions among the left. Trolls can exploit this, saboteurs have instant access.

    This is terrifying.

  118. 118.

    Kay

    Trip Gabriel
    ‏@tripgabriel
    Interviewing Trump voters in Erie, Pa., many don’t much like him, voted reluctantly, suggesting he won’t get much slack if he can’t deliver

    Buyers remorse. Oh, well. They rolled the dice because they couldn’t bring themselves to back the she-devil.

    I can’t wait until the Trump polling numbers come out. Half the country actively loathes him and a good portion of the rest are probably feeling some real trepidation and anxiety, especially in places like Erie PA, where they were pretty anxious anyway. People look stunned here, like they can’t believe what they did.

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    Shalimar

    @WaterGirl: Southern Poverty Law Center had serious problems in the distant past (at least until 1994) with diversity. They have presumably fixed those by hiring minority lawyers and they have always been great in every other way.

    That said, SPLC has a massive endowment for what they do, in the hundreds of millions. They have been saving a good percentage of their donations for decades. They don’t need your money as much as many other equally worthy organizations.

  120. 120.

    EBT

    @efgoldman: California is, last I looked, the 8th largest economy on the planet. Not the country, the planet. I don’t mean we SHOULD, but we probably COULD, at least from the economics side.

  122. 122.

    lamh36

    @Another Scott: Unfortunately, I can’t.

    Like I said I’ve been using my phone as hotspot since i came to my mom’s. I have the shared plan. Hmmm the majority of the data is used on my phone or laptop.

    I guess I’ll just have to limit the time on my Phone. I usually use Wifi at work, but my vacation this weekend I used the phone as hotspot a lot.

    I’ll just have to keep track

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    Emerald

    @efgoldman: Exactly! That’s what I want: A United States of the Pacific (CA, OR, WA & HI), or the Western United States if NV wants in. Gawd, we’d be a formidable nation! We have the agriculture, the IT, the technology and the manufacturing, show business and tourism! CA is already the fifth largest economy in the world just by itself! Imagine adding WA and the others to that!

    Add the Northeast states and we would blow it out! The red states in between can stew in what they’ve created (dunno about poor Illinois).

    And we could have Jerry Brown or Harry Reid as our first Prez, maybe. Or Duvall Patrick. Any of those would get us off to a flying start.

    I saw a tweet from Laurence Tribe today saying the idea is utter nonsense, that secession was settled in 1865, but I don’t think we’d have to fight.

    We could just buy trump off. Make him a real billionaire at last! We’ve got the cash.

    I would feel bad about abandoning the fight for the rest of you folks however. We’d have to have a good refugee system.

  131. 131.

    mdblanche

    @lamh36: Time to start arranging for people to picket Congressional Republicans’ offices saying “keep your government hands off our Medicare.”

    @Jonkheer: Wasn’t Gillibrand Schumer’s preferred choice for Senator? And wasn’t Schumer Reid’s preferred successor?

  133. 133.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 6 Nov 2012
    We can’t let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!

    God almighty. He’ll start with bad poll numbers so let’s do all we can to drive those down to the traditional Republican 27%, shall we?

    He has a video clip up with his son on the (crazy as hell) “transition website. It’s called My Dad. They’re already exploiting that poor kid.

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    lamh36

    @Richard Mayhew: Just realized I said she was 47…she’s actually 57…but still…I was afraid of this when I read it…

    After the election I told my mom to think about a contigency plan for what would happen if Trump et al do what they say they will

  135. 135.

    Ella in New Mexico

    @Another Scott: seriously, its over and yeah, it’s the millionaires and billionaires model we’re fighting against now, not Bernie.

    Why are people wanting to re-open the nasty intra-Democratic Party Primary Season Squabbles again? We’ve got bigger fish to fry, we don’t have time to get mad at Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders—that’s eating our own.

  136. 136.

    mdblanche

    @Kay: I missed the chance to reply to this in a dead thread, but earlier today you said your son’s coworkers who voted for Trump were already complaining about him. What were they complaining about exactly?

  137. 137.

    BBA

    I stand by my judgment of the SPLC as being mostly about self-promotion. Sure, back in the day they shut down some Klan groups, but for the last couple of decades it’s been all telling people about such terrible hate crimes, please give more to the SPLC, and NOTHING ELSE. This hasn’t reduced the frequency of hate crimes, or done anything to punish the perpetrators, and now we’ve just witnessed 60 million Americans commit a collective hate crime on the entire planet. More newsletters won’t fix shit. I want real accomplishments.

  138. 138.

    Baud

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    Why are people wanting to re-open the nasty intra-Democratic Party Primary Season Squabbles again? We’ve got bigger fish to fry, we don’t have time to get mad at Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders—that’s eating our own.

    Tell that to Zach!

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    BBA

    I will be donating five figures to Planned Parenthood. Because they don’t just talk, they do good things.

  143. 143.

    Another Scott

    @Ella in New Mexico: Ok, fair criticism.

    I was posting Bernie’s up-to-the-minute editorializing about why he wanted Keith to be DNC chair. I said it annoyed me and said why. I can see why it can look like trolling or beating a dead horse.

    Sorry.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  146. 146.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @Gex:

    He may take office with approval ratings similar to what GWB had upon leaving office.

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    joel hanes

    @Emerald:

    Maybe even somehow get California OneCare to work after the ACA gets shafted?

    MediCal was working long before Obama was elected to his first term.
    Saved my daughter’s life a couple times.

  149. 149.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    Has everyone read about Megyn Kelly being poisoned on day of debate ?

    Its in her new book. Folks we are in Putins America and we didn’t even know it.

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    Emerald

    @Emma: BTW—sorry. Let my anger get the best of me there.

    No, I’m hoping we in CA can help somehow. We’re a big state. And as E.F. Goldman says, if we unite with the other blue states, even without seceding, we might be able to put up a pretty good resistance that would help everybody.

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    Hildebrand

    Just had an exchange on twitter with a few frothing Jill Stein people – wow, they really have circled all the way around to Alex Jones territory. Those are some strange folks.

  156. 156.

    Steve in the ATL

    @CaseyL:

    Ellison would be great symbolically as a Muslim POC

    You must have missed the election that just happened. I like the guy, but he would scare off a shitload of people we need if we are ever going to regain power. Not saying that’s right, but it’s true.

  157. 157.

    Emerald

    @Omnes Omnibus: Also to you: BTW—sorry. Let my anger get the best of me there.

    No, I’m hoping we in CA can help somehow. We’re a big state. And as E.F. Goldman says, if we unite with the other blue states, even without seceding, we might be able to put up a pretty good resistance that would help everybody

  158. 158.

    BC in Illinois

    @BBA:
    I just today signed up for a monthly donation to the Center for Victims of Torture.

    I have a young relative who yesterday wrote on Facebook: “I think I just became an activist.” Generated a lot of reaction, especially among her generation of the family. For me, I think that torture will be my focus of activism for the next four years.

  159. 159.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Hildebrand:

    Just had an exchange on twitter with a few frothing Jill Stein people

    That is on you. You know better than to have any exchange with Stein supporters other than “the nice men in the white coats are going to take you away now, ok?”

  160. 160.

    Jonkheer

    @mdblanche: Good point. And since Schumer seems fait accompli at this point, most important thing for us going forward is keeping the pressure on him.

  161. 161.

    dance around in your bones

    My last words about Trump – he will never be my President. I’ll happily join any protest I can find, and feel as fired up about it as I did march/rambling around the White House at night with all the people JUST LIKE ME sticking candles in the fence and chanting “Hey Hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?!” and feeling righteous as hell in solidarity.

    And yeah, FUCK LBJ. I’m with you, Raven.
    FUCK TRUMP, too. And his stupid twats.

  162. 162.

    Peale

    I wonder if Ryan will also try to sneak privatizing the VA into his ACA repeal bill? Might as well. My guess is they might get away with the Medicare voucher plan since repealing ACA is so popular with his voters.

  164. 164.

    Hildebrand

    @Steve in the ATL: Yep – only lasted about five minutes. Weird how they swarm. Strangest bit – they got pissy when I stopped responding. Went back and deleted the conversation – which really set them off. They started wondering, in rather vulgar fashion, why I wasn’t blocking them. Definitely an odd bunch.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    @Emerald: Wisconsin was lost by the Voter ID law. Don’t be smug. California recovered sooner than other states, but you also went shitball crazy sooner than we did too. Does Prop. 13 ring a bell?

  169. 169.

    PhoenixRising

    @Steve in the ATL: Nope.

    We are not going to hide from conversations about race and/or Islam. We are going to lead. And if the backwoods racist cousin-fuckers who choose to put white supremacy above their own economic interests want to die broke in their squalor, they can. As long as they don’t drag us down with them.

    No. We are not going to decide anything based on the fear of offending bigots. What else can they do to us?

  171. 171.

    Fair Economist

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    Has everyone read about Megyn Kelly being poisoned on day of debate ?
    Its in her new book. Folks we are in Putins America and we didn’t even know it.

    I’d heard she suspected as much. It moves “blood out of her whatever” from a crude sexist remark to a very scary threat.

  172. 172.

    Hob

    @BBA: By “NOTHING ELSE” I presume you mean “legal actions like these which I just don’t care about very much”? Looks to me like there were a fair number of such actions within “the last couple of decades.”

    I mean, if you don’t want to donate to the SPLC, fine. But there’s no need to exaggerate, especially when people can very easily find out that what you’re saying isn’t true.

  173. 173.

    Fair Economist

    @Hildebrand:

    Just had an exchange on twitter with a few frothing Jill Stein people – wow, they really have circled all the way around to Alex Jones territory. Those are some strange folks.

    When Trump gets going and starts drilling in the Arctic, selling off national parks, and raising taxes on the poor I intend to let people like that have it. For now it’s a waste of time – they’re in crazyland, and the proof of the utter craziness of their decision is in the future.

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    EBT

    @Hildebrand: Blocking them is how they feel like they won. They get you to silence them. Without responding to them, just deleting the posts is always the best solution. And never post in your own Helldump thread.

  181. 181.

    Linnaeus

    @efgoldman:

    MI elected the douchebag Snyder.

    He’s term limited, so he can’t run in 2018 and his political career is effectively dead. Golden opportunity to pick up a governor’s mansion.

  182. 182.

    CZanne

    @Jonkheer: I don’t dislike the idea, but I’d rather have Hilda Solis (former cabinet secretary, current LA Board of Supervisors, very clean record), Mark Udall (former CO Senator, speaks fluent environmentalist, urban liberal, western rural, and western mineral/oil/gas; was the 2014 bellwether for being handed his own ass by a grinning monster from the id, so knows how such shitstains pull their dirty tricks), or Wellington Webb (former Denver mayor, African-American, clean record, knows community organizing.) What I don’t want? Anyone currently holding an elected office. They have one job. They don’t need the distraction.

    Alternately, leave Brazille there until mid-February. Then ask a certain former president if he’s bored with retirement yet.

  184. 184.

    Seth Owen

    @goblue72: if they mess it up bad enough maybe Medicare for all will be the only fix. 20 million people losing their insurance will be tangible

  188. 188.

    bemused senior

    @lamh36: didn’t read to the end before replying (I’m always late to threads) so someone may have suggested this but you can use your smartphone as an access point. Check your carrier for pricing. On more recent Android phones you can either use USB connection or wireless.

  189. 189.

    GrandJury

    @Trentrunner: So impeachment starts now? After having digested this turd sandwich for a few days, I’m starting to think a President Shitstain (cap S out of respect for the office) is less scary than a President Pence. So I don’t know how to feel about (what I believe) is an inevitable impeachment. It would be a really nice two middle fingers to him and all the assholes that voted for him, but after that it would just be more misery.

  190. 190.

    sukabi

    @GrandJury: pretty sure pence will have his own scandals…can’t be that “holier than thou” without a lot of darkness…I figure he’ll go the catholic priest route and be caught balls deep in a boy.

  191. 191.

    goblue72

    @EBT: Medi-Cal is basically Medicaid with extras. If Medicaid gets cut, Medi-Cal will suffer.

    No state can go it alone.

  193. 193.

    Steve in the ATL

    @GrandJury:

    I’m starting to think a President Shitstain (cap S out of respect for the office) is less scary than a President Pence

    Holy shit–I agree with you

  194. 194.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    @Omnes Omnibus: I want to apologize for going off on you for having a paranoid attitude re: trolls.

    Finding out that Megyn Kelly’s coffee was poisoned means we are are already under a covert attack, and disinformation and trolling has almost certainly infected our ranks purposefully meant to sow division.

  197. 197.

    Wapiti

    @Emma:

    Thanks for nothing. Hillary lost several states by less than 50,000 votes. Can we all emigrate?

    It might be easier to stand up a California Corps, where 50,000 young and idealistic Californians go to each red state six months before an election (or however much time it takes to register) to vote.

  199. 199.

    Keith G

    Richard, one thing you could do for people like me who depend on Obamacare, is to quickly suss out what the likely GOP alternative is that will be offered as a replacement..

  202. 202.

    NotoriousJRT

    @Jonkheer:
    I am in the camp wiith those who feel it should not go o someone in an elected office. Nothing against Ellison. Is this not important enough to be a full time job? Although I guess the human anorgram was just a full.time asshole.

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