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You are here: Home / Politics / domestic terrorists / Celebratory Gathering of Happy Trump Supporters

Celebratory Gathering of Happy Trump Supporters

by Anne Laurie|  November 21, 201610:55 pm| 79 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Hail to the Hairpiece, Post-racial America, Republican Venality, Assholes, Decline and Fall, Not Normal

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@Rschooley That's actually the Maggiano's on Wisconsin Ave in DC. They were there on Friday night. https://t.co/3ZtX956jc8

— vonceyb (@vonceyb) November 21, 2016

ETA: Original tweet got removed by Twitter, for some reason or other…

Seig heil! ? pic.twitter.com/FhuFuZq6Sc

— Tila Tequila (@AngelTilaLove) November 19, 2016

Of course our new Nazis won't know how to spell Nazi slogans. https://t.co/h8dWHgIV57

— Josh Barro (@jbarro) November 19, 2016

The actual factual term is "neo-Nazi." If you trace the roots of the movement to their origin, you end up at Stormfront and other hate sites

— Andray D. (@AndrayDomise) November 18, 2016

No, seriously: This happened. Rosie Gray, at Buzzfeed:

The white nationalist alt-right movement, once the very definition of fringe politics, is facing a truly unexpected scenario: Their preferred candidate is about to be in the White House.

To capitalize on this turn of events, alt-right leaders held a press conference on Saturday at the gathering of the National Policy Institute, the white nationalist think tank headed by Richard Spencer. The event was held in the Ronald Reagan Building in downtown Washington, and attracted vigorous protests outside.

Spencer appeared onstage with VDare’s Peter Brimelow, anti-Semitic writer Kevin MacDonald, Arktos editor Jason Jorjani, and American Renaissance founder Jared Taylor. More than two dozen reporters were in attendance, a stark shift from previous alt-right gatherings that attracted fewer. Behind the press conference, the rest of the NPI attendees gathered to watch, at times booing and jeering the reporters when they asked questions. The audience was nearly all young, white, and male, with some sporting Make America Great Again hats and many displaying the “fashy” cropped-sides haircut common to the movement….

[N.B.: That’s ‘fashy’ for ‘facist’. They’re proud of who they are.]

The alt-right, Spencer said, had before the election been like a “head without a body,” trapped in internal conversations and debates.

“The Trump movement was a kind of body without a head,” Spencer said, saying that Trump’s campaign had been “half-baked” on policy despite having the right instincts on foreign policy and immigration. “I think moving forward the alt-right as an intellectual vanguard can complete Trump.” Spencer, who can take credit for coining the name of the movement, believes the alt-right has a “psychic connection” with Trump in a way they do not with other Republicans. Indeed, the very name of the alt-right indicates its wish to disassociate itself from the wider right: An important part of its project is to challenge and dismantle the conservative movement.

Spencer and the others are careful not to identify Trump himself as alt-right, nor his campaign CEO and soon-to-be White House chief strategist Steve Bannon. The alt-right leaders are aware of their political radioactivity and seek to not harm Trump by linking arms too firmly with him. “I don’t think Steve Bannon is alt-right as I would define the term,” Spencer said, saying Bannon has no direct connection to the movement but that “I think a few of us have shaken his hand” and that there is “common ground” between the beliefs of Bannon and those of the alt-right…

So much common ground, that the two Venn diagram circles are locked in close embrace.

… Now that Trump has won, the alt-right must grapple with policy in real-world terms. NPI plans to start putting out policy papers as recommendations for the Trump administration going forward (regardless of whether these specific plans will ever have audience in the White House); the first, out now, is called “Beyond NATO.” One proposal by Spencer is to institute a 50-year freeze on net immigration. He also spoke approvingly of Ivanka Trump’s federally sponsored maternity leave proposals, and of the choice of Sen. Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Spencer told me later that he’s also proposing a “less is more” idea in which there is less college attendance and college is reserved for a “cognitive elite,” and a “greatness agenda” involving wildlife conservation…

Translation: State support for white babymakers, old-school racists in charge of the judiciary, college education once again reserved for white Christian men, and license for the NRA to run wild in national parks.

How American journalism dies: normalizing white nationalists & holding photo shoots to let them pose for puff pieces https://t.co/K78Bi9aYg0

— Adam Jentleson (@AJentleson) November 21, 2016


Alt-right leader praises Sessions for AG, says white Europeans should be only group that can attain new citizenship. https://t.co/28M6Yy3cFp

— Edward M. Davis (@TeddyDavisCNN) November 20, 2016

White nationalists and Nazi-saluting Tila Tequila toast "Emperor Trump" in Washington, DC: https://t.co/xAyRevklzs pic.twitter.com/MNr07PRSTx

— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) November 19, 2016

… There were panel discussions on “Trump and the new white voter,” and “Trump and being a man.” There was a presser where Spencer (who was a staunch Trump fan, worked in college-campus activism with one of the Trump campaign’s senior advisers, and works hard to try to mainstream extreme immigration and racial policies such as “peaceful ethnic cleansing” for a “white homeland”) got to chuckle and take questions from all-serious, thoroughly cucked political reporters. Cocktails, free coffee, and mediocre catered chicken were served, and Trump swag and Harambe shirts were sold.

And Tila Tequila, the Hitler-sympathizing, Trump-loving, Singapore-born former MTV personality, was there to support her friend Richard Spencer…

Tequila, a “politically incorrect” one-time reality-TV star (much like our next president!) and model, has dabbled in casual anti-Semitism and pro-Nazi declarations over the years, to the point where she has been condemned by the Anti-Defamation League. “This is clearly a person who is desperate for publicity at all costs,” an ADL spokesman told me in December 2013, shortly after Tequila posted a Facebook image of herself in sexy-Nazi garb…

“The Alt-Right has been declared the winner [of this presidential election],” Spencer said on the night Trump defeated Hillary Clinton. “The Alt-Right is more deeply connected to Trumpian populism than the ‘conservative movement.’”

“We’re the establishment now,” he concluded.

It’s all fun and memes, until they start rounding up the Untermenschen. Even the adamantly BothSides NYTimes was alarmed to the point of taking the group seriously — “Alt-Right Exults in Donald Trump’s Election With a Salute: ‘Heil Victory’”:

By the time Richard B. Spencer, the leading ideologue of the alt-right movement and the final speaker of the night, rose to address a gathering of his followers on Saturday, the crowd was restless.

In 11 hours of speeches and panel discussions in a federal building named after Ronald Reagan a few blocks from the White House, a succession of speakers had laid out a harsh vision for the future, but had denounced violence and said that Hispanic citizens and black Americans had nothing to fear. Earlier in the day, Mr. Spencer himself had urged the group to start acting less like an underground organization and more like the establishment.

But now his tone changed as he began to tell the audience of more than 200 people, mostly young men, what they had been waiting to hear. He railed against Jews and, with a smile, quoted Nazi propaganda in the original German. America, he said, belonged to white people, whom he called the “children of the sun,” a race of conquerors and creators who had been marginalized but now, in the era of President-elect Donald J. Trump, were “awakening to their own identity.”

As he finished, several audience members had their arms outstretched in a Nazi salute. When Mr. Spencer, or perhaps another person standing near him at the front of the room — it was not clear who — shouted, “Heil the people! Heil victory,” the room shouted it back…

At the conference on Saturday, Mr. Spencer, who said he had coined the term, defined the alt-right as a movement with white identity as its core idea.

“We’ve crossed the Rubicon in terms of recognition,” Mr. Spencer said at the conference, which was sponsored by his organization, the National Policy Institute….

The United States today, Mr. Spencer said, had been turned into “a sick, corrupted society.” But it was not supposed to be that way.

“America was, until this last generation, a white country designed for ourselves and our posterity,” Mr. Spencer thundered. “It is our creation, it is our inheritance, and it belongs to us.”…

“Trump and Steve Bannon are not alt-right people,” Mr. Brimelow [of VDare] said, adding that they had opportunistically seized on two issues that the alt-right cares most about — stopping immigration and fighting political correctness — and used them to mobilize white voters.

Mr. Spencer said that while he did not think the president-elect should be considered alt-right, “I do think we have a psychic connection, or you can say a deeper connection, with Donald Trump in a way that we simply do not have with most Republicans.”

White identity, he said, is at the core of both the alt-right movement and the Trump movement, even if most voters for Mr. Trump “aren’t willing to articulate it as such.”…

THIS IS ON YOU, REPUBLICANS. Even if you claim that you, personally, don’t agree with the ‘alt-right’ neo-Nazis, you voted to install a man known to be sympathetic to the neo-Nazis — because you felt that winning took priority over your principles. You voted clan over conscience.

I'd like to propose a new term for them: "Alt-White." @AJentleson https://t.co/Ohzy7Ikp8q

— Eric Kleefeld (@EricKleefeld) November 20, 2016

“But as the night wore on and most reporters had gone home, the language changed.” https://t.co/bn7I0DR6mL pic.twitter.com/rEMBPICWfG

— Michael Calderone (@mlcalderone) November 21, 2016

Richard Spencer mobbed by die Lugenpresse pic.twitter.com/egsikLRNZu

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 19, 2016

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  1. 1.

    mai naem mobile

    November 21, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    I am trying to figure out what I can do on inauguration day to avoid watching this moron and his racist fuckheads celebrate. I also think the media meeting today was to distract from the Argentine and Indian deals. He’s just going to keep on doing this and I am not sure the media will ever catch on.

  2. 2.

    debbie

    November 21, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    The Holocaust Museum was not amused.

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    November 21, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    This is who they are.

  4. 4.

    Mickee

    November 21, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Tila Tequila knows she’s not white, right?

  5. 5.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Tila fucking Tequila?

  6. 6.

    Anne Laurie

    November 21, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Mickee:

    Tila Tequila knows she’s not white, right?

    She figures she’s safe as ‘one of the good ones.’

    The white boys point to her and tell each other “We’re not racists, we just hate the criminals/animals/subhumans who don’t know their place!”

  7. 7.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    I am somewhat ashamed that I have a vague idea of who Ms. Tequila is.

  8. 8.

    Anne Laurie

    November 21, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: “Everybody knows” that Asians have even higher IQs than Caucasians, so it’s fine for them to hang around (as long as they know their place).

    Just ask Andrew “Bell Curve” Sullivan!

  9. 9.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Just ask Andrew “Bell Curve” Sullivan!

    I prefer not to.

  10. 10.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    November 21, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    I wonder if that dumbass woman knows what they think about her when she isn’t there to hear what they say…

  11. 11.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 21, 2016 at 11:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: ok, Bartleby.

    edit: nm

  12. 12.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    In a million years I would have never imagined we could descend this far, this fast. Our freak flags are flying high and every asshole feels compelled to openly salute. The hell are we going to do about it?

  13. 13.

    amk

    November 21, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    whatev happened to that self-loathing michelle malkin? why is she not a part of these ugly kkklowns?

  14. 14.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    On the plus side I’m sure Sully’s Hillary hatred remains intact, unsullied if you will.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    Obligatory.

  16. 16.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @amk: she’s probably too busy drafting up pro-Muslim internment documents with KKKobach

  17. 17.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @Mickee: I think she had a stroke or something a while back. Then she became a right-wing idiot. It’s actually pretty sad.

  18. 18.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @trollhattan: Of course. She ain’t Maggie.

  19. 19.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @amk:
    Guessing she’s jockeying for minister of Muslim countertop inspection.

  20. 20.

    BBA

    November 21, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    You know what would be a terrible idea, and very very illegal? For an anti-fascist skinhead gang to crash this little “gathering” and beat the everloving shit out of each and every one of these fucktards. No, I shouldn’t want that to happen at all…I do want it, but I shouldn’t.

    Meditate more, BBA. Let the anger flow out of you. Don’t even think of calling the antifas…not yet, anyway.

  21. 21.

    Suzanne

    November 21, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    God.
    I really think splitting the country in half might be a good idea. The white supremacists can have the crappy parts.

  22. 22.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Kapos are needed.

  23. 23.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @BBA: So you want a crowd of Rancid fans to bust the place up? I am surprisingly unphased by this idea.

  24. 24.

    cokane

    November 21, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    I disagree with the need to rename them, it’s important to call them “alt right” especially in any sentence that says one of their core beliefs. That way when someone encounters a self identifying alt right person on social media or in the flesh, they’ll know what that means.

    Erasing that name, especially in headlines and leads, doesn’t properly specify the movement. A headline “White supremacists gather in DC” could be referring to KKK, past neo nazi groups, etc.

  25. 25.

    Keith P.

    November 21, 2016 at 11:23 pm

    That’s actually the Maggiano’s on Wisconsin Ave in DC

    And with that, I go to check out the Yelp comments, which should be pretty amusing.

    EDIT: It doesn’t disappoint, with gems like “Should be called Mussolini’s Little Italy”

  26. 26.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 21, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: yeah, some of those high notes can be a little tricky and re-tuning is a bitch.

    ETA: @cokane: What if I make sure to do all three in each sentence?

  27. 27.

    mike in dc

    November 21, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    I hate DC Nazis.

  28. 28.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    November 21, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Don’t fret the small stuff

  29. 29.

    GxB

    November 21, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Attentionwhore don’t care. Part sick joke, part surreal fever dream, I don’t know what to think anymore other than the inauguration theme should be “Thunder and Blazes”

  30. 30.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    @mai naem mobile: This was what the meeting today was about:
    https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/800882055563210754

    Josh Marshall ‏@joshtpm 3h3 hours ago
    1: I’ve talked to various people to get a sense of how accurate that NYPost account of the cable execs meeting was.I’ll get to that later…

    Josh Marshall ‏@joshtpm 3h3 hours ago
    2: But what is crystal clear is that Trump really was believes is that because most of the media got it wrong in thinking Clinton wld win…

    Josh MarshallVerified account
    ‏@joshtpm
    3:that this means ALL press reporting on Trump is discredited and the news organizations must now apologize to Trump. That’s where he is.

  31. 31.

    BBA

    November 21, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    @efgoldman: They’re Nazi cosplayers, and not even particularly convincing ones at that. Calling them “Nazis” just makes them happy. I’d deny them even that pleasure.

    Call them what they are: shitstains.

  32. 32.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:32 pm

    @Mickee: No, no she doesn’t.

  33. 33.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    @efgoldman: My song is better.

  34. 34.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    Question I GUARANTEE Trump has asked his team: “Those bad guys Obama has released from prison, can I send them back?”

  35. 35.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:39 pm

    @efgoldman: Musically, it is. IMO. Plus, I am feeling defiant.

  36. 36.

    GxB

    November 21, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    @efgoldman: They actually marched to T&B? All I could ever imagine happening is general mayhem.

  37. 37.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 21, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: @efgoldman: Boys, boys, your songs are both horrifying things written by Jews, ok?

  38. 38.

    WarMunchkin

    November 21, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    I’m sorry, but “fashy”? FASHY? Is Hitler’s failure to completely conquer the world attributed to Nazism not being branded as an Apple product? Is Nazi-ism chic?

    I give up, I want off this planet.

  39. 39.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: You made me laugh.

  40. 40.

    GregB

    November 21, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    American Nazis? I fucking hate American Nazis.

  41. 41.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Mickee: @Anne Laurie: This is a rerun. The original was porn star Bianca Trump (real name: Wendy Iwanow-Childs), who remade herself from “the Latin Princess of Porn” into the “Aryan Princess” of the Aryan Nations.
    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/richard-butler

    More ignominy followed. As Butler was about to board a plane in Spokane, Wash., in November of that year, his buxom, 31-year-old traveling companion was busted on an outstanding warrant for forgery. It was only afterward, apparently, that Butler and his Aryan Nations cohorts learned that the woman, Wendy Iwanow, was a hard-core porn star known as Bianca Trump, the “Latin Princess” — a woman who, shockingly to her Aryan new friends, had engaged in film frolics like “Barely Legal Latinas” that reportedly included interracial sex.

    Bianca Trump was actually Puerto Rican.
    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2003/kkk-leader-richard-butler%E2%80%99s-porn-star-companion-gets-busted

    The 31-year-old tattoo artist, an attractive woman who liked to boast of her “100% Russian” blood, was carted away. It was only the most recent arrest of still another apparently low-life Butler companion, and it left a dispirited Butler to make the trip to an Arizona rally all by himself.

    There was more, however. Within minutes of her arrest hitting the local newspapers, hundreds of friends and enemies of the Aryan Nations were shaking their heads over Butler’s latest imbroglio. His friend, it turned out, was well known.

    Before she decided that she was “born to hate,” before she started using the E-moniker of tattoogirl1488 (the numbers refer to neo-Nazi slogans), Wendy Christine Iwanow worked under the name of Bianca Trump — as a porn megastar.

    She wasn’t just any old object of desire. Iwanow was the famed “Latin Princess,” a woman who, as numerous racists were quick to point out, had publicly slept with men of color.

    She’d been arrested, in 1995, for armed robbery. She’d run a call girl service — charging between $500 and $1,500 an hour by her own account — and also a porn Webcast from her house. From “Barely Legal Latinas” to “Brassiere to Eternity,” Iwanow had starred in more than 180 hard-core films.

    How did a “Latina” porn star end up traveling with the aging patriarch of American hate? It’s not clear, although it’s a fact that she spent more than a week at Butler’s Hayden, Idaho, home before the Phoenix excursion. But it certainly was an embarrassment.

    (there’s more at the SPLC link)

    This is Bianca Trump:
    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/2240359930_566cab2362.jpg
    And this is her after she left porn, became a tattoo artist and white supremacist:
    https://a1-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/ef485ec038af4326bb1f784c10db2728/300×300.jpg

  42. 42.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 21, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: :)

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @WarMunchkin: Hugo Boss did the SS uniforms, IIRC.

  44. 44.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Yeah, blatant racists are spending a lot of energy complaining about being called racist so I’ll extend the same to our giddy Nazis. So impolite, the name-calling.

    Has Obama apologized for that rude Hamilton audience yet?

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    @amk: She’s married to a Jewish American guy she met at Oberlin. By all accounts she was apolitical when she got there, but he was one of the minority of Jewish Americans who is conservative/Republican. When they started getting romantically serious she adopted his politics and ideology.

  46. 46.

    InternetDragons

    November 21, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    Tweet from Quinn Sutherland. Nothing more need be said about our useless media:
    ‏@ReelQuinn
    NAZI: I’m a Nazi
    MEDIA: How controversial
    NAZI: I said I was a Nazi
    MEDIA: Your clothes are beautifully tailored

  47. 47.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @WarMunchkin:
    It’s like calling murderers “killies.” You just want to squeeze one.

  48. 48.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 21, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Dude. I thought I knew random shit. Kudos.

  49. 49.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @Thoroughly Pizzled: She had an aneurysm combined with a drug overdose, which they caught in time to save her life. However, its been reported that she had a fairly significant personality shift as a result of the aneurysm, the overdose, the treatment, or all three. \http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/06/tila-tequila-brain-aneurysm-drug-overdose_n_1323905.html

  50. 50.

    Mnemosyne

    November 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @trollhattan:

    No, he hasn’t, and that’s probably why some Brave American Patriot decided to stand up at a Hamilton performance in Chicago and scream at the cast.

    See, if we were just nicer to the Trumpkins, they wouldn’t be forced to make public jackasses of themselves. It’s all our fault, of course.

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    Hi Adam, since you’re in the hood any word on Trump outreach to the Bundys? Reagan abetted the Safebrush Rebellion and I’m expecting a rerun across the West. With AR15s this go.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    @mike in dc:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0

  53. 53.

    trollhattan

    November 21, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    First they came for my Starbucks cup….

    These loud pasty bastards sure have delicate fee-fees.

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @GregB: And for you too:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTT1qUswYL0

  55. 55.

    Kanye 1973 VW Westphalia

    November 21, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    JFC! Can we just them a bunch of booger-eating chronic masturbaters?!?

  56. 56.

    Lizzy L

    November 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    I am not watching the inauguration. Unless it’s pouring rain, I will go for a slow amble in my favorite local park with my old dog. If it’s raining, I’ll stay home and drink. Not a lot, because the next day I plan to go to a march in Oakland.

    We are through the looking glass.

  57. 57.

    GxB

    November 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Or how about all the rage, profane voicemails, and threats sent to Hamilton Theatre Company (Hamilton, Ontario – Canada) who had no idea WTF was going on.

    Is are fascists lernin’?

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 21, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I actually have two or three publications that deal with the Aryan Nations. I also think I wrote the entry on them for the Encyclopedia of Religion and Politics. So this actually gets covered under professional research based knowledge. For those of us who study extremism this was hysterical when it all came out because it was one thing after another as Aryan Nations and Richard Butler basically came apart at the seems after the SPLC sued them into oblivion.

  59. 59.

    cokane

    November 22, 2016 at 12:05 am

    @efgoldman: youre an idiot, a story that only says “neo nazis gather in dc to celebrate trump” doesnt inform the reader the way “racist alt right …” does

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I feel a bit better.

  61. 61.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 22, 2016 at 12:06 am

    @trollhattan: I have no idea. I know exactly one person, because I once interviewed him for a research project I was doing on US responses to terrorism pre and post 9-11, involved with the Trump transition. And I haven’t talked to him since 2003 when he was gracious enough to sit for the interview. Unfortunately we couldn’t get a journal to even send the piece for peer review. No one in 2004 wanted to touch a piece entitled the “Politics of Fear: US Responses to Terrorism over Time – From the Palmer Raids to the Post 9-11 Response”. We had in depth elite level interviews with about 1/2 a dozen former and current Federal officials that had worked on domestic or international terrorism issues. We had archival research. We had statistical analysis of the effects of reforms to intelligence and security policies and practices (pre and post the Church Commission reforms), which demonstrated that the reforms did not account for any difference to incidents of terrorism after they were put into place, which was a major criticism post 9-11. We just got passed from one journal to the next with the editors telling us to tell the editor at the journal they recommended that we were submitting because the editor of journal (insert journal name here) recommended we do so. After about 24 months of this, as well as developing a book proposal and having that get the same treatment, we just dropped it.

    And people wonder why I left academia…

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 22, 2016 at 12:08 am

    @cokane: You are kind of an asshole. And you are wrong.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    November 22, 2016 at 12:08 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Glad I could help.

  64. 64.

    Mnemosyne

    November 22, 2016 at 12:10 am

    So when actual KKK members show up at the inauguration in their white hoods, who do we make a donation to?

  65. 65.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    November 22, 2016 at 12:10 am

    @cokane: If you don’t know that Nazi’s are racist, you need to do some learnin’.

  66. 66.

    cokane

    November 22, 2016 at 12:11 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: youre an idiot. informing people what “alt right” means is the fucking crux of these stories

  67. 67.

    cokane

    November 22, 2016 at 12:12 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: so dumb…

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 22, 2016 at 12:16 am

    @cokane: Are you, perhaps, drunk as fuck? No judgment. I’ve done it too.

  69. 69.

    Sondra

    November 22, 2016 at 12:16 am

    I just started reading this about 5 minutes ago and tried to see what that quote meant at pic.twitter.com/FhuFuZq6Sc. I didn’t know what I was clicking on until I read that the account had been suspended and then I knew. Yikes I never would have tried that if I had known. Sorry, but I don’t do any of the social media things like Facebook or Twitter. I am too old and too low tech for that so I didn’t realize – I won’t try that again and maybe you could give me a warning sign please.

  70. 70.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 22, 2016 at 12:24 am

    @Sondra: Huh?

  71. 71.

    InternetDragons

    November 22, 2016 at 12:31 am

    @Sondra: What are you talking about? Your comment isn’t making any sense…

  72. 72.

    SWMBO

    November 22, 2016 at 12:40 am

    I asked this in a dead thread:

    A question about the Queen. Wasn’t there a law that the Queen wasn’t allowed to meet anyone who was in a porn flick? There was a flap years ago (I think. Age doesn’t help the memory.) about the Queen meeting Koo Stark. If it is true that Trump was in a softcore porn, would that preclude the Queen from meeting with him? Also Melania? Are there British legal experts that can verify this?

  73. 73.

    SWMBO

    November 22, 2016 at 12:42 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: @InternetDragons: @Sondra: I clicked on the link in the first twitter account too. It threw up a page saying the twitter account had been suspended. I think that’s what she is referring to.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    November 22, 2016 at 12:43 am

    Kind of related, Nazi-wise.

  75. 75.

    Anne Laurie

    November 22, 2016 at 12:52 am

    @Sondra: Sorry. I edited this post so you could see the pic, I hope, without having to delve into the swamp…

  76. 76.

    trollhattan

    November 22, 2016 at 1:05 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Thanks. Figure it’s all so under the radar that it’ll be ignored until something ignites this winter. Them boys have their plannin’ britches on and are eager to roll. #ObamaAmmoSurplus

  77. 77.

    John Goodrich

    November 22, 2016 at 3:37 am

    Tila Tequila is also a flat Earth believer, so, there’s that too. These are the mental giants we’re dealing with.

  78. 78.

    Gvg

    November 22, 2016 at 6:12 am

    @efgoldman: the reason to call them Natzi’s is that is what they are and almost everyone knows what Natzi’s are. The reason for calling them alt right is that is what they are currently trying to rebrand themselves, and if we don’t make it clear what that means, it will slip by people who haven’t been paying attention and who need to be warned. I am afraid that means we have to call them both things every time and give frequent specific reasons. It’s a lot more work but there you have it.

  79. 79.

    Slappy Kincaid

    November 22, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    I think Neo-Nazi is pretty clear to anyone who hears it.

    I specifically think of the vicious, brutal skinheads that I fought with in the streets in the late 1980s/early 1990s. I don’t give a shit if they traded their Doc Martens and bomber jackets for dress shoes and sports coats, they are the same violent fucktards that they were back then. Regardless of their polished rhetoric, they really, really want people to bleed.

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