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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Hail to the Hairpiece / Open Thread: Double Standards, The Media Village Idiots Haz Them

Open Thread: Double Standards, The Media Village Idiots Haz Them

by Anne Laurie|  December 2, 201610:35 pm| 86 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Assholes, Our Failed Media Experiment

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IOKIYDJT pic.twitter.com/ZXPwKRBxUB

— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 2, 2016

Obama 365, McCain 173
Trump 306, Clinton 232

Obama 52.9% of popular vote
Trump 46.4% of popular vote

But Obama had to reach out to the GOP pic.twitter.com/u0nREdTwrm

— Schooley (@Rschooley) December 2, 2016

Of course, the Asterisk-Elect never claimed he wanted to “reach out” to people who didn’t support him… no doubt a level of firmness that helped endear him to the Dana Bashes and Ed Henrys.

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  1. 1.

    schrodinger's cat

    December 2, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    What else do you expect media lackeys to say?

  2. 2.

    Emma

    December 2, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    I hate each and every one of them with the fire of the Pillars of Creation.

  3. 3.

    eclare

    December 2, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @Emma: Can I borrow that? I usually use the heat of 1,000 suns, but people are getting used to that.

  4. 4.

    khead

    December 2, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    Not complicated. IOKIYAR.

    Bob Schooley only needs another 100K examples and an economic collapse before anyone cares.

  5. 5.

    eclare

    December 2, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    @efgoldman: Have never noticed, but I think it is a blue pill, so just marketing reinforcement?

  6. 6.

    Villago Delenda Est

    December 2, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    My nym. Again and again.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

  7. 7.

    amk

    December 2, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    Look, kenyan was obama, ok?

  8. 8.

    Ksmiami

    December 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    Wipe them out. All of them

  9. 9.

    Ksmiami

    December 2, 2016 at 10:53 pm

    @Ksmiami: I see villago beat me

  10. 10.

    Kay

    December 2, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    Saw Trump’s campaign were chanting “lock her up” again today.

    Weren’t we assured he had a babysitter now and would cut the crap with threatening to lock people up?

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

  11. 11.

    Keith P.

    December 2, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    If there is a lesson for the Democrats to learn from this, it is to be unapologetically bold. The media may poo-poo it a bit initially (mainly to see if you fold), but if you just press forward, the media folds. I’m still a bit ticked off over how many pundits said all Hillary had to do to put the email mess behind her is to admit the mistake and move on. All that did was enable the media to amplify GOP calls to ask her about the emails again and again.

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 2, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    @Kay:

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    That was rhetorical, right?

  13. 13.

    Kay

    December 2, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    Is he planning on running his sleazy political campaign for the next 4 years?

    Is so, will he continue to get blanket coverage by all US media?

    At what point does this turn into propaganda?

  14. 14.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    December 2, 2016 at 10:58 pm

    We have almost two months before this clown show even takes office, and this asshole has already set off an international crisis. But, hey, why should he bother to try to work with anybody? He won the fucking election, right? He won it in a landslide. He told us all so himself last night.

    I hate these fucking people. I want them all to die. May God have mercy on my soul, I want all of these shitbags to wake up dead tomorrow.

  15. 15.

    Another Scott

    December 2, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @efgoldman: Of course, there’s science behind it (2:50)

    ;-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 2, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    May God have mercy on my soul, I want all of these shitbags to wake up dead tomorrow.

    I can’t say that it would not make the world a better place.

  17. 17.

    khead

    December 2, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @Kay:

    Yes.

    Yes.

    Six months ago.

  18. 18.

    Mike G

    December 2, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Hillary could have won 60% of the vote and they’d say it was time to “reach out” and compromise.
    It’s baked into the DC idiot-narrative every election, regardless of the vote totals.

  19. 19.

    Another Scott

    December 2, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Kay: He told us that he was going to run his general election campaign the way he did his primary campaign. And he did, and it “worked” for him.

    Why shouldn’t he run his presidency the same way?

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    December 2, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    @Kay:

    Saw Trump’s campaign were chanting “lock her up” again today.

    Weren’t we assured he had a babysitter now and would cut the crap with threatening to lock people up?

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    The only adult in the GOP these days appears to be Rebekah Mercer, with a partial credit to Vladimir Putin (and that’s “adult” in the sense of “calling the shots”, not adult as we Dems understand the term).

  21. 21.

    Kay

    December 2, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Clinton’s a private citizen now. Media really shouldn’t be cheering on the President “locking up” a private citizen to promote his brand.

    Does he get unlimited free air time to bellow lies with no rebuttal from the people he’s smearing?

    How does this differ from propaganda? The campaign is over. We get 24/7 Trump in a political campaign with no opponent for 4 years?

  22. 22.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 2, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    @Kay: Come on, Kay. You have to recognize the snark in that question.

  23. 23.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    December 2, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @Kay:

    I take some comfort in recalling Shrub smugly saying after the ’04 election, “I have earned political capital, and I intend to spend it.” He blew through it fast and became much disdained. Donald Chump thinks he’s sitting pretty and gets all the cookies he wants. It won’t last forever. He’ll know the taste of shitburgers soon enough.

  24. 24.

    Emma

    December 2, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @eclare: Be my guest.

  25. 25.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 2, 2016 at 11:26 pm

    @efgoldman: It’s a litlle BLUE PILL.

  26. 26.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 2, 2016 at 11:38 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: You mentioned blue pills; the song mentions pink polls, but it is too good to ignore. Battered Old Bird.

  27. 27.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    December 2, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): he’s doing the easy part right now. All he’s got to do is hire people. He can’t even do that well. Seriously this is the fucking United States of America and he is considering a guy for SOS who has to check in with his fucking probation officer before he travels. 320 million people in this country. Thousands in the foreign service, thousands of GOPrs and he is looking at Petraeus. And his Treasury guy was involved in the crappy loan business. And he hasn’t even had anything like Benghazi! to deal with yet. I am just gonna keep on working on that bunker in my back yard.

  28. 28.

    greennotGreen

    December 2, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    Trump will only reach out to his own voters if he happens to need their help to step on them on the way to whatever he wants for himself.

  29. 29.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 2, 2016 at 11:54 pm

    I took the choo choo today to see California’s oldest building.

  30. 30.

    Lizzy L

    December 2, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: One of the Missions?

  31. 31.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 2, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    @Lizzy L: Yup, San Juan Capistrano; built in 1776.

  32. 32.

    ArchTeryx

    December 2, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Amtrak California? You lucky dog. Quite enjoy day-tripping from Davis to SF on them when I go visit friends up in Davis.

  33. 33.

    eemom

    December 2, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    May God have mercy on my soul, I want all of these shitbags to wake up dead tomorrow.

    Considering that if they don’t, a whole shit ton of innocent people are gonna wake up dead or worse for the next four years, I think God will understand.

  34. 34.

    mike in dc

    December 2, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    Wait. If he doesn’t have to reach out to us, why do we have to go along with his agenda? We have 7 weeks to get that point across to our Senators and congresspersons.

  35. 35.

    John Revolta

    December 3, 2016 at 12:01 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I just love that Art Deco stuff.

  36. 36.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:01 am

    @ArchTeryx: Yup, took MetroLink to LA’s Union Station and the Pacific Surfrider down to San Juan Capistrano. First time I’ve take Amtrak in almost 30 years. I’m planning to go to Ventura next.

  37. 37.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 3, 2016 at 12:03 am

    @Keith P.: I think this is essentially right, at least for Republicans. Trump proved that all you have to do is say ridiculous and outlandish stuff and never admit you’re wrong.

    I think this doesn’t work as well with the Left, though. We have a significantly higher amount of Reality Based Voters, and reporters hold Democrats to a much higher standard.

    ETA: For example, I have a Trumpkin friend who was horrified that Trump apologized for the “grab them by the…” video. His point was that apologies never convince anyone, but they give the other side permission to attack you. And I suppose that’s true, so long as the media and one side aren’t going to care about facts or basic decency.

  38. 38.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:04 am

    @John Revolta: I did the Art Deco stuff two weeks ago.

  39. 39.

    Mnemosyne

    December 3, 2016 at 12:08 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Ventura’s mission is cool, but it’s a little weird because it’s right in the middle of downtown surrounded by thrift stores and restaurants. Most of the other ones I’ve been to have been offset from the main part of town, but not Ventura’s.

    A couple blocks down, Anacapa Brewing Company has good food even if you don’t drink.

    ETA: And if you’re there on a Sunday night, the restaurant has a guy who comes to your table and does some pretty good sleight of hand tricks, with his sleeves pushed up.

  40. 40.

    Gretchen Diefenderfer

    December 3, 2016 at 12:09 am

    Philip Bump is the only one who sounds at all sensible I agree with Smedly – they should all wake up dead

  41. 41.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:10 am

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve driven by the Ventura mission, I grew up in the county; but I’ve never been inside. I’d also like to see Ventura’s city hall, which is the former Ventura County courthouse.

  42. 42.

    John Revolta

    December 3, 2016 at 12:13 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Well, the joke would’ve worked better without all these other common taters messing up my snark ; )

  43. 43.

    Mary G

    December 3, 2016 at 12:13 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: You were in my neck of the woods! Did you see the Blas Aguillar Adobe and the O’Neill Museum in the Los Rios District?

  44. 44.

    Lizzy L

    December 3, 2016 at 12:14 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: One thing I’d really like to do is go to Mass at all 21 of the California missions. I’ve been to Mission Dolores and Mission Santa Barbara, but those are the only ones. Maybe next year…

  45. 45.

    Mnemosyne

    December 3, 2016 at 12:14 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    We’re usually in Ventura on a weekend — and even more usually on a Sunday — so we’ve never been to the courthouse. The boardwalk along the ocean is very nice, too, and branches out in several directions to various other trails and bike paths.

  46. 46.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @Mnemosyne: That’s the old courthouse that’s downtown by the mission, the new one’s in East Ventura.

    @Lizzy L: That might be a problem with a few of the missions, since they’re ruins.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    December 3, 2016 at 12:17 am

    @Lizzy L:

    One of my younger cousins got married at the mission in Carmel — it’s only allowed if you’re a townie, which she is. We stayed at the Sandpiper Inn, which was a little B&B in a residential neighborhood that was surprisingly reasonable for Carmel. It was only a couple of blocks from the ocean, so G was in heaven because he could walk on the beach twice a day.

  48. 48.

    Lizzy L

    December 3, 2016 at 12:24 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Well, then I won’t be able to do it. But I would like to go to the ones that have been restored. Can the ones which have not been restored be visited?

  49. 49.

    SoupCatcher

    December 3, 2016 at 12:25 am

    @Lizzy L: My favorite mission is the one most off the beaten path – San Antonio de Padua – right in the middle of the California National Guard’s artillery training ground: Fort Hunter Liggett. Added bonus is the Nacimiento-Ferguson road to the coast.

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 3, 2016 at 12:29 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Have the swallows returned? Has the curse been lifted?

  51. 51.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:29 am

    @Lizzy L:

    Can the ones which have not been restored be visited?

    Yup, but all you might see is the foundation.

  52. 52.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:31 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I didn’t see any birds, just a lot of children* and old** people.

    *The last time I visited the mission was when I was 8.

    ** Old people, meaning people older than I am.

  53. 53.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:35 am

    Here’s the alter from the Serra Chapel.

  54. 54.

    Lizzy L

    December 3, 2016 at 12:37 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: I might skip those…

  55. 55.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 3, 2016 at 12:43 am

    @efgoldman: My Huskies had a pretty good win tonight.

  56. 56.

    Aleta

    December 3, 2016 at 12:47 am

    @Mai.naem.mobile: And his nominee for sec of defense has been accused by a Special Forces soldier (who was present) of possibly causing the deaths of several SF soldiers and Afghan soldiers (by hesitating to rescue the wounded until after a more distant medic operation had begun to evacuate them to his base).

  57. 57.

    Lizzy L

    December 3, 2016 at 12:49 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Ornate!

  58. 58.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 3, 2016 at 12:55 am

    @Aleta: But Benghazi!

  59. 59.

    Millard Filmore

    December 3, 2016 at 1:02 am

    @Kay:

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    None of the GOP leadership [1] stepped up against the claim that Obama was Kenyan, or Muslim, or a socialist, or that he hated America, or more generally spoke against the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the administration, or death panels, or the Jade Helm invasion. The list goes on and on.

    [1] McCain spoke up one time, sort of.

  60. 60.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 3, 2016 at 1:02 am

    Just saw Life of Brian at the Castro Theatre. It was the husband’s first time seeing a Monty Python movie, which he described as “just a bunch of people acting silly.” This is reminiscent of the first time he saw an opera (Die Walküre) which he described as “pretty melodramatic.”

  61. 61.

    sukabi

    December 3, 2016 at 1:39 am

    @efgoldman: little blue dresses go with the little blue pills…simple as that… Color coordination. Subliminal messaging.

  62. 62.

    Macbethchick

    December 3, 2016 at 1:46 am

    @eclare:

    I usually use the heat of 1,000 suns, but people are getting used to that.

    Climate change is for sheeple.

  63. 63.

    EBT

    December 3, 2016 at 2:05 am

    @eclare: I use “Heat of a thousand syphilitic genitals” but I am also a bizarre person.

  64. 64.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 3, 2016 at 2:09 am

    Remember when Move-On said “General Betray-us” and it was the scandal of the century? Simpler times.

  65. 65.

    TS

    December 3, 2016 at 2:34 am

    The media attacked President Obama from day 1. They continue to lie to support this anti democratic president elect. He has spent zero time preparing for his job, he has spoken to anyone who wants to attack the current President and who will tell him how wonderful he is. Allies will become enemies. RW dictators are his friends. The world might survive this monster, not sure if the US will.

    My brain is filled with panic and hate – it is not where anyone should find themselves. The fart really thinks he has been elected King – the people are his serfs. The media are here to laud and praise him.

    There is no free press – it is done and dusted.

  66. 66.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    December 3, 2016 at 3:23 am

    Okay, so this is weird. Was asking a young person about Hillary at a party tonight and he claimed that the AP Government exam this year had a question about Benghazi. Claimed that the question was all about ethics and Benghazi and how Obama denounced Hillary while she was SoS, and all that….which totally didn’t happen. But he was dead certain that the nationwide exam in AP Government had a question about this.

    Don’t really know how to verify this, but damn, if that’s true, it’s chilling.

  67. 67.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    December 3, 2016 at 3:44 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: Any chance the prion disease infecting Texas-BofE-approved textbooks (which other states then need to use) has spread?

    I am tired enugh to not know if I’m kidding

  68. 68.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    December 3, 2016 at 3:50 am

    @ThresherK (GPad): This is in a liberal enclave of California and person was not an idiot. We are in an info-war and losing badly, I fear.

  69. 69.

    WereBear

    December 3, 2016 at 3:51 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: I believe the testing industry is infested with Republicans. But you are right, that is Orwell levels if true.

  70. 70.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 3, 2016 at 3:51 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: Are AP tests not a nationwide standard?

  71. 71.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    December 3, 2016 at 4:02 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:
    @WereBear:

    No kids for us, so I couldn’t say if it’s natl or state-based.

  72. 72.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 3, 2016 at 4:05 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    We are in an info-war and losing badly, I fear.

    To InfoWars, incidentally.

  73. 73.

    opiejeanne

    December 3, 2016 at 4:59 am

    @Major Major Major Major: The AP tests were local when my kids took them in the 90s. The HS my daughters attended had 90 kids score high enough for the AP English class one year, but the district only wanted one class per grade, so 60 were not accepted. My middle kid was among those 60 thrown back, and she won the English Award that year and the next.

  74. 74.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    December 3, 2016 at 5:29 am

    @opiejeanne: AP TESTS are not taken until after twst and theyre t least state if not national.

  75. 75.

    sukabi

    December 3, 2016 at 6:52 am

    @Kay: pa$sed that Mark ages ago.

  76. 76.

    geg6

    December 3, 2016 at 7:09 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    Yes, this. AP exams are taken after the classes. Most districts use the PSAT to screen students for AP classes. But the actual AP exams test what they learned in those classes and, if the student scores high enough, are good for college credit. Because of that, AP classes are expensive to run and thus, why districts limit enrollment.

  77. 77.

    Donut

    December 3, 2016 at 9:43 am

    @Kay:

    SATSQ:
    June 16, 2015

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/donald-trump-2016-announcement-10-best-lines-119066

  78. 78.

    pluky

    December 3, 2016 at 10:13 am

    @SoupCatcher: When did Hunter Liggett get a bump in status? Dad was stationed in Ft. Ord in the early ’70s. It was a Camp then.

  79. 79.

    SgrAstar

    December 3, 2016 at 10:30 am

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Bill, Mission San Buenaventura is beautiful. I used to work nearby, and went over there often just to admire it and enjoy its atmosphere. Missions are kind of a thing in my family- we always try to visit one or two when we’re driving around California.

  80. 80.

    From Both Sides of the Pond

    December 3, 2016 at 10:36 am

    AP reader (European History) here. CollegeBoard (or ETS, depending on which particular unit of the same company is handling things), which is based out of Princeton, develops and administers the tests nationally – schools administer them, but this is the same company that runs the SAT. Tight standards, lengthy process for proposing questions and even longer for getting them approved and included on the examination. One thing they aren’t going to go for is controversial topics that are still in flux, from my experience. Also, given that ETS relies on a solid cadre of college professors and experienced high school instructors who are unlikely to parrot fringe talking points… yeah, I’d say it was unlikely. Of course, what the young person _thought_ they were reading might differ dramatically from what they were being asked – you should see some of the crap people put down as answers for those things.

  81. 81.

    opiejeanne

    December 3, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    @Dog Dawg Damn: after the twist?

  82. 82.

    MomSense

    December 3, 2016 at 2:00 pm

    I’ve been thinking that DJTs Taiwan/Gyna flap is going to get interesting. Deutsche Bank holds just shy of 700 million of his debt and they are up for sale. Will the Chinese buy it? Russians? Then what?

    If only there were a long standing practice of presidential nominees making their financial information available in order to prevent these kinds of problems.

  83. 83.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    December 3, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @opiejeanne: after the class* I was on a phone and didn’t see the horrible typo apparently.

  84. 84.

    hugely

    December 3, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA: take it all the way to sd. There are great views of the ocean and world renown surfspots

  85. 85.

    Karen

    December 3, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    Wasn’t Dana Bash married to Rushbo

  86. 86.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    December 4, 2016 at 12:27 am

    There are two sides to this. First, it needs to be called out that the Republicans work the refs beautifully. Donald Trump does well in the first 20 minutes of the first debate because… dum dum DUM – he mentioned the names of several states and parroted his talking points about jobs.

    If Hillary Clinton had done that, pundits would have insisted she needed to do more than just say “jobs” and mention the states names.

    Similarly, Democrats are always asked how they’ll reach out to Republicans, but the reverse is never true.

    But it also means that Democratic messaging must be tweaked a bit. It wouldn’t have killed Hillary Clinton to have learned to say “jobs” in every fourth sentence, and had her press workers insist that she did great, reaching out to Americans’ concerns about jobs.

    (NB: This is not blame for Clinton – when you win the popular vote with the Republicans working the frickin’ FBI into their fold, you’re doing the right things. But it would have been good to have worked the refs and the messaging a bit herself, too. )

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