Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

A consequence of cucumbers

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Hot air and ill-informed banter

Fuck these fucking interesting times.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

Bark louder, little dog.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

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Open Thread: Double Standards, The Media Village Idiots Haz Them

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Of course, the Asterisk-Elect never claimed he wanted to “reach out” to people who didn’t support him… no doubt a level of firmness that helped endear him to the Dana Bashes and Ed Henrys.

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  10. 10.

    Kay

    Saw Trump’s campaign were chanting “lock her up” again today.

    Weren’t we assured he had a babysitter now and would cut the crap with threatening to lock people up?

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

  11. 11.

    Keith P.

    If there is a lesson for the Democrats to learn from this, it is to be unapologetically bold. The media may poo-poo it a bit initially (mainly to see if you fold), but if you just press forward, the media folds. I’m still a bit ticked off over how many pundits said all Hillary had to do to put the email mess behind her is to admit the mistake and move on. All that did was enable the media to amplify GOP calls to ask her about the emails again and again.

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Kay:

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    That was rhetorical, right?

  13. 13.

    Kay

    Is he planning on running his sleazy political campaign for the next 4 years?

    Is so, will he continue to get blanket coverage by all US media?

    At what point does this turn into propaganda?

  14. 14.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    We have almost two months before this clown show even takes office, and this asshole has already set off an international crisis. But, hey, why should he bother to try to work with anybody? He won the fucking election, right? He won it in a landslide. He told us all so himself last night.

    I hate these fucking people. I want them all to die. May God have mercy on my soul, I want all of these shitbags to wake up dead tomorrow.

  18. 18.

    Mike G

    Hillary could have won 60% of the vote and they’d say it was time to “reach out” and compromise.
    It’s baked into the DC idiot-narrative every election, regardless of the vote totals.

  19. 19.

    Another Scott

    @Kay: He told us that he was going to run his general election campaign the way he did his primary campaign. And he did, and it “worked” for him.

    Why shouldn’t he run his presidency the same way?

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  20. 20.

    Jeffro

    @Kay:

    Saw Trump’s campaign were chanting “lock her up” again today.

    Weren’t we assured he had a babysitter now and would cut the crap with threatening to lock people up?

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    The only adult in the GOP these days appears to be Rebekah Mercer, with a partial credit to Vladimir Putin (and that’s “adult” in the sense of “calling the shots”, not adult as we Dems understand the term).

  21. 21.

    Kay

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Clinton’s a private citizen now. Media really shouldn’t be cheering on the President “locking up” a private citizen to promote his brand.

    Does he get unlimited free air time to bellow lies with no rebuttal from the people he’s smearing?

    How does this differ from propaganda? The campaign is over. We get 24/7 Trump in a political campaign with no opponent for 4 years?

  23. 23.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @Kay:

    I take some comfort in recalling Shrub smugly saying after the ’04 election, “I have earned political capital, and I intend to spend it.” He blew through it fast and became much disdained. Donald Chump thinks he’s sitting pretty and gets all the cookies he wants. It won’t last forever. He’ll know the taste of shitburgers soon enough.

  27. 27.

    Mai.naem.mobile

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.): he’s doing the easy part right now. All he’s got to do is hire people. He can’t even do that well. Seriously this is the fucking United States of America and he is considering a guy for SOS who has to check in with his fucking probation officer before he travels. 320 million people in this country. Thousands in the foreign service, thousands of GOPrs and he is looking at Petraeus. And his Treasury guy was involved in the crappy loan business. And he hasn’t even had anything like Benghazi! to deal with yet. I am just gonna keep on working on that bunker in my back yard.

  28. 28.

    greennotGreen

    Trump will only reach out to his own voters if he happens to need their help to step on them on the way to whatever he wants for himself.

  34. 34.

    mike in dc

    Wait. If he doesn’t have to reach out to us, why do we have to go along with his agenda? We have 7 weeks to get that point across to our Senators and congresspersons.

  36. 36.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @ArchTeryx: Yup, took MetroLink to LA’s Union Station and the Pacific Surfrider down to San Juan Capistrano. First time I’ve take Amtrak in almost 30 years. I’m planning to go to Ventura next.

  37. 37.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Keith P.: I think this is essentially right, at least for Republicans. Trump proved that all you have to do is say ridiculous and outlandish stuff and never admit you’re wrong.

    I think this doesn’t work as well with the Left, though. We have a significantly higher amount of Reality Based Voters, and reporters hold Democrats to a much higher standard.

    ETA: For example, I have a Trumpkin friend who was horrified that Trump apologized for the “grab them by the…” video. His point was that apologies never convince anyone, but they give the other side permission to attack you. And I suppose that’s true, so long as the media and one side aren’t going to care about facts or basic decency.

  39. 39.

    Mnemosyne

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    Ventura’s mission is cool, but it’s a little weird because it’s right in the middle of downtown surrounded by thrift stores and restaurants. Most of the other ones I’ve been to have been offset from the main part of town, but not Ventura’s.

    A couple blocks down, Anacapa Brewing Company has good food even if you don’t drink.

    ETA: And if you’re there on a Sunday night, the restaurant has a guy who comes to your table and does some pretty good sleight of hand tricks, with his sleeves pushed up.

  40. 40.

    Gretchen Diefenderfer

    Philip Bump is the only one who sounds at all sensible I agree with Smedly – they should all wake up dead

  41. 41.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve driven by the Ventura mission, I grew up in the county; but I’ve never been inside. I’d also like to see Ventura’s city hall, which is the former Ventura County courthouse.

  44. 44.

    Lizzy L

    @BillinGlendaleCA: One thing I’d really like to do is go to Mass at all 21 of the California missions. I’ve been to Mission Dolores and Mission Santa Barbara, but those are the only ones. Maybe next year…

  45. 45.

    Mnemosyne

    @BillinGlendaleCA:

    We’re usually in Ventura on a weekend — and even more usually on a Sunday — so we’ve never been to the courthouse. The boardwalk along the ocean is very nice, too, and branches out in several directions to various other trails and bike paths.

  46. 46.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Mnemosyne: That’s the old courthouse that’s downtown by the mission, the new one’s in East Ventura.

    @Lizzy L: That might be a problem with a few of the missions, since they’re ruins.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    @Lizzy L:

    One of my younger cousins got married at the mission in Carmel — it’s only allowed if you’re a townie, which she is. We stayed at the Sandpiper Inn, which was a little B&B in a residential neighborhood that was surprisingly reasonable for Carmel. It was only a couple of blocks from the ocean, so G was in heaven because he could walk on the beach twice a day.

  49. 49.

    SoupCatcher

    @Lizzy L: My favorite mission is the one most off the beaten path – San Antonio de Padua – right in the middle of the California National Guard’s artillery training ground: Fort Hunter Liggett. Added bonus is the Nacimiento-Ferguson road to the coast.

  52. 52.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    @Adam L Silverman: I didn’t see any birds, just a lot of children* and old** people.

    *The last time I visited the mission was when I was 8.

    ** Old people, meaning people older than I am.

  56. 56.

    Aleta

    @Mai.naem.mobile: And his nominee for sec of defense has been accused by a Special Forces soldier (who was present) of possibly causing the deaths of several SF soldiers and Afghan soldiers (by hesitating to rescue the wounded until after a more distant medic operation had begun to evacuate them to his base).

  59. 59.

    Millard Filmore

    @Kay:

    Is there an adult in the Republican Party planning to step up before this sleaze envelops the country?

    None of the GOP leadership [1] stepped up against the claim that Obama was Kenyan, or Muslim, or a socialist, or that he hated America, or more generally spoke against the Muslim Brotherhood infiltrating the administration, or death panels, or the Jade Helm invasion. The list goes on and on.

    [1] McCain spoke up one time, sort of.

  60. 60.

    Major Major Major Major

    Just saw Life of Brian at the Castro Theatre. It was the husband’s first time seeing a Monty Python movie, which he described as “just a bunch of people acting silly.” This is reminiscent of the first time he saw an opera (Die Walküre) which he described as “pretty melodramatic.”

  65. 65.

    TS

    The media attacked President Obama from day 1. They continue to lie to support this anti democratic president elect. He has spent zero time preparing for his job, he has spoken to anyone who wants to attack the current President and who will tell him how wonderful he is. Allies will become enemies. RW dictators are his friends. The world might survive this monster, not sure if the US will.

    My brain is filled with panic and hate – it is not where anyone should find themselves. The fart really thinks he has been elected King – the people are his serfs. The media are here to laud and praise him.

    There is no free press – it is done and dusted.

  66. 66.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    Okay, so this is weird. Was asking a young person about Hillary at a party tonight and he claimed that the AP Government exam this year had a question about Benghazi. Claimed that the question was all about ethics and Benghazi and how Obama denounced Hillary while she was SoS, and all that….which totally didn’t happen. But he was dead certain that the nationwide exam in AP Government had a question about this.

    Don’t really know how to verify this, but damn, if that’s true, it’s chilling.

  67. 67.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @Dog Dawg Damn: Any chance the prion disease infecting Texas-BofE-approved textbooks (which other states then need to use) has spread?

    I am tired enugh to not know if I’m kidding

  73. 73.

    opiejeanne

    @Major Major Major Major: The AP tests were local when my kids took them in the 90s. The HS my daughters attended had 90 kids score high enough for the AP English class one year, but the district only wanted one class per grade, so 60 were not accepted. My middle kid was among those 60 thrown back, and she won the English Award that year and the next.

  76. 76.

    geg6

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    Yes, this. AP exams are taken after the classes. Most districts use the PSAT to screen students for AP classes. But the actual AP exams test what they learned in those classes and, if the student scores high enough, are good for college credit. Because of that, AP classes are expensive to run and thus, why districts limit enrollment.

  79. 79.

    SgrAstar

    @BillinGlendaleCA: Bill, Mission San Buenaventura is beautiful. I used to work nearby, and went over there often just to admire it and enjoy its atmosphere. Missions are kind of a thing in my family- we always try to visit one or two when we’re driving around California.

  80. 80.

    From Both Sides of the Pond

    AP reader (European History) here. CollegeBoard (or ETS, depending on which particular unit of the same company is handling things), which is based out of Princeton, develops and administers the tests nationally – schools administer them, but this is the same company that runs the SAT. Tight standards, lengthy process for proposing questions and even longer for getting them approved and included on the examination. One thing they aren’t going to go for is controversial topics that are still in flux, from my experience. Also, given that ETS relies on a solid cadre of college professors and experienced high school instructors who are unlikely to parrot fringe talking points… yeah, I’d say it was unlikely. Of course, what the young person _thought_ they were reading might differ dramatically from what they were being asked – you should see some of the crap people put down as answers for those things.

  82. 82.

    MomSense

    I’ve been thinking that DJTs Taiwan/Gyna flap is going to get interesting. Deutsche Bank holds just shy of 700 million of his debt and they are up for sale. Will the Chinese buy it? Russians? Then what?

    If only there were a long standing practice of presidential nominees making their financial information available in order to prevent these kinds of problems.

  86. 86.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    There are two sides to this. First, it needs to be called out that the Republicans work the refs beautifully. Donald Trump does well in the first 20 minutes of the first debate because… dum dum DUM – he mentioned the names of several states and parroted his talking points about jobs.

    If Hillary Clinton had done that, pundits would have insisted she needed to do more than just say “jobs” and mention the states names.

    Similarly, Democrats are always asked how they’ll reach out to Republicans, but the reverse is never true.

    But it also means that Democratic messaging must be tweaked a bit. It wouldn’t have killed Hillary Clinton to have learned to say “jobs” in every fourth sentence, and had her press workers insist that she did great, reaching out to Americans’ concerns about jobs.

    (NB: This is not blame for Clinton – when you win the popular vote with the Republicans working the frickin’ FBI into their fold, you’re doing the right things. But it would have been good to have worked the refs and the messaging a bit herself, too. )

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