Took some new pics today during the day so you could see the colors better (that’s not fucking pink). The hallway is the first, and the entire hallway is that color, as well as the stairway to the third floor, the third floor hallway, and to the landing between the 1st and 2nd floor. The rest are the spare bedroom (NOT FUCKING PINK), the master bedroom (yellow), and the home office (green).
Flooring and bathroom and counters for the kitchen this week.
I just paid the final electrician bill so I am currently curled up in the fetal position. Buy a house, they said. You’ll be building equity, they said. I am so broke.
lamh36
Um…what was supposed to be pink?
So are you doing special designs and stuff for the pets John?
Feebog
Green? Really? All the colors of the rainbow and you chose green?
SiubhanDuinne
There are pinks and then there are pinks.
Thistle is one of the good ones.
HRA
I didn’t see pink in the other post either. Those are great vibrant colors.
After it is all done, you will be able to relax, enjoy it and not have to spend as much.
Frank Wilhoit
Something about your use of colloquial English reminds me of the following Little Story:
Long-haul air passenger awakened by the turning on of cabin lighting: “Who turned the fucking lights on?”
Flight attendant: “Sir, these are the breakfast lights. You slept through the fucking lights.”
SiubhanDuinne
Clearly you have failed to learn the first and most important lesson of Trumpism: Never pay your vendors what you owe them. Tell them the job was inferior. If they don’t like it, tell them to sue you. When they do, you can tie it up in the courts for years. Even if they end up getting a settlement, you’ve cost them a fortune in legal fees and more sleepless nights than anyone can count. Believe me.
DCrefugee
Looks like outtakes from Warren Beatty’s “Dick Tracy”…
Schlemazel
Is it just an optical allusion caused by the windows or are the ceilings sort of low?
Beautiful color choices. As a guy who bought an older, distressed, home you have nothing but sympathy from me.
Omnes Omnibus
Sorry, man. It looked pink to me.
Yarrow
I like the vibrant colors. How big are the rooms?
rikyrah
I love the colors
NotMax
Ah, so it’s lavender. ;)
RoonieRoo
I love the colors. The thistle room doesn’t look pink to me.
Robin Gittelman
@Frank Wilhoit: That was the best laugh I’ve had all week. Thanks!
NotMax
Mildly curious if wallpaper is frowned upon in WV.
Mnemosyne
@lamh36:
The purple room looked pink in the previous photos, so of course we all had to mess with Cole’s head about it.
I am a strong proponent of purple, so I like it.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
I love the colors, except the green. I’ve never been able to live with a green, even when I thought I could and painted it myself, and then realized how it was just the wrong color to paint a room in. Green accents are fine – but a whole room is just too… green.
hovercraft
The rest are the spare bedroom (NOT FUCKING PINK)
On my monitor it’s fucking pink. Just sayin. I happen to like pink, I just asked the 14 year old what she thought of the paint colors. Her response was, “the pink is my favorite.” Sorry.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
My mother hates wallpaper. She says it drives her nuts to think that dirt is accumulating behind it that she can’t get to.
The problem may not be the wallpaper.
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: It is pink, with a purplish, violet hue. He has a
Tinky Winky, Dipsy and LaLa room now he needs Po room.
schrodinger's cat
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Also too, a red ceiling is no no. That is going to be my first repainting project.
BillinGlendaleCA
Looks pink, Cole.
Elmo
@Mnemosyne: What does she think about carpet? Carpet is the biggest dirt trapper I’ve ever encountered.
karen marie
Okay, fine – it’s not pink. I am not going to comment further on your color choices, although I maintain my position that you’ll be repainting within a year, especially the master and office. Love the yellow for a living room but not anywhere I’d be trying to sleep.
Congratulations on all of it though. Bottom line, it’s yours, all yours. Enjoy!
EZSmirkzz
Hang in there John, things will get better. Then they’ll get worse. Then they will get better. Then they’ll get worse. Then they will get better. Then they’ll get worse. Then they will get better. Then they’ll get worse. Then they will get better. Then they’ll get worse. Then they will get better.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@schrodinger’s cat:
LOL. Since I’ve been boycotting media news shows and have done nothing but stream Netflix and watch home improvement shows, it occurs to me that a Property Brother would take a couple through this house and end up painting everything one of those tasteful shades of gray or taupe.
Keith P.
@SiubhanDuinne: My house had peach/pink carpets and powder blue n yellow walls when I bought it. Like Cole, I had to constantly say “I’m not gay” to visitors
NotMax
@schrodinger’s cat
Unless it’s a brothel. Dramatically sets off the gilt frame of the ceiling mirror.
debit
Oh, honey, no one thinks it’s pink.
The money you’re spending now is going to be valuable if/when you sell the house. The mortgage interest will help on your taxes (if you pay enough to make it worth itemizing). And it’s beautiful You and the critters will love living there. Plus, yes, equity.
Shana
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I dunno, our bedroom is a gray/green that’s very subtle and relaxing.
Pogonip
@Elmo: I hate carpets, for that reason.
JPL
John, It’s your house and you can paint like you want to.
Steve in the ATL
On my phone, the office looks like the same shade of green as my Stratocaster. Sea foam FTW!
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@schrodinger’s cat:
The first house we bought had wallpaper on the ceiling IN EVERY ROOM. They even wallpapered THE REFRIGERATOR. The wallpaper was all either heavily flocked (look it up), or foiled, and every room’s wallpaper was a riot of different colors, patterns and textures. It was a fucking nightmare to get it all off, and if you’ve ever removed wallpaper, you find out unless you get ALL of the paste off the wall, painting only serves to raise the paste in bubbles, which demands to be scraped off so that you have to start all over again.
Jeffro
Love the house updates – good luck John!
Can we get a thread about Putin being personally involved in deciding how the hacking info was going to be directed against the Dems?
I mean, Twitter is going nuts fer crying out loud…;)
JPL
The woodwork in the house is gorgeous!
@Jeffro: The repubs love Putin, so no problem . .
Fair Economist
Green, yellow, and purple? It’s Mardi Gras party time!
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Wow, I’m confused. I must have read your comment all wrong the other day. I thought you were saying that you had painted a ceiling red in your new house because you are such a Red Sox fan.
Now I have to go outside and untangle my mind. I may be some time.
NotMax
@the Conster, la Citoyenne
With you on that, with the exception of a deep, rich hunter green (or even darker). Mr. Cole may love the office color, and good on him, but choosing a green the shade of six-month old cheese would not be at the top of my list.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Shana:
Green is tricky – I painted my kitchen a trendy sage green – greenish gray – and after about 2 years it just brought me down and I got sick of it. It’s the only color I’ve ever chosen I really liked at the time, that I ended up hating. I stay away from blues and greens now – too much of it is a bad thing.
opiejeanne
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Everybody’s so afraid of color where I live that they do that to perfectly nice houses, taupe & gray & beige.
schrodinger's cat
@NotMax: Nope, it was a teenage boy’s theme room. The theme being Red Sox. I hate it. Its the guest bedroom. I am sure I will get nightmares if I were to sleep in the red room of doom.
Ian
I have to vote with the people who think it looks pink. Maybe it is your camera?
Betty Cracker
My hubby is watching “Medici: Masters of Florence” while I read a book. From watching snippets of the program, I’m struck by the number of 30-somethings playing the parents of 20-somethings. WTF?
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: Nope not me, the teenage soon of the previous owner’s. I couldn’t care less about baseball. I just tell people that I like the Yankees to see their reaction.
Belafon
@JPL: I don’t care if they don’t give a shit. I do, and it needs to be broadcast as far as possible.
BTW, if anyone is wondering where fighting Democrats are, go find your local Democratic Party. I went to my first meeting on Monday. We’re in a county where only 1/3 of the population is Democratic, and the long time people were talking about being angry at the election, at who was elected, and also talked about being a thorn in the Republicans side here. We all need that fight.
Gvg
It’s in the pink family on my iPad.
Looks nice. Wallpaper looks dated to fast IMO. In just a few years something else is in and it’s a huge amount of work to scrape. Also attracts silverfish which eat paper. Of course so do large book collections which I can’t live without. House is amazing already.
TS
The woodwork in the pictures is truly amazing – colors don’t matter when the basics are near perfect.
NotMax
@schrodinger’s cat
Whoever ends up buying an acquaintance’s house is gonna have to use 3 or possibly 4 coats for the teenager’s room, which the scamp decided to paint flat black (with day-glo accents).
schrodinger's cat
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I think wall paper is worse than the red ceiling.
Francis
A. It’s a beautiful house. Tell the naysayers to fuck off.
B. Have you looked into a HELOC (home equity line of credit)? With all the work done, your house should have substantially increased in value. Since HELOCs are secured by a second mortgage, the interest rates are usually really low, and I think that the interest payments are tax-advantaged.
J R in WV
@NotMax:
Wall paper is an antique, too-busy, old fashioned wall covering that costs too much, fails too easily, and takes too long to apply correctly.
We do have paper strips along the tops of the walls in one spare bedroom, but all our walls in our modern house are painted, and then covered with artwork.
Just my $0.02 worth. Don’t often see wall paper I care to be around much. YMMV
Roger Moore
@Ian:
You probably thought the dress was gold and white, too.
NotMax
@Betty Cracker
Looked into it but Dustin Hoffman as the paterfamilias is a bridge too far so passed it by.
Kay
That pink room is pretty. Good job!
max
Took some new pics today during the day so you could see the colors better (that’s not fucking pink).
Looks good, Cole! Getting lots done quite quickly! Congrats.
Buy a house, they said. You’ll be building equity, they said. I am so broke.
You did! You took your cash and bought equity and hopefully this will increase in value faster than keeping the cash would have, but if it doesn’t you’ve at least got a decent place to live.
max
[‘Congrats.’]
dnfree
Depending on where you live, you may not “build equity”. West Virginia might be like ruralish Illinois for all I know. We have only once ever sold a house for more than we paid for it, and if you counted what we spent on fixing them up, we’ve really been in the financial hole. But we enjoyed living in each of them for the years we were there.
Way back in the 1960’s I had a co-worker quote his father to me: “A house is NOT AN INVESTMENT. A house is a place to live.” That has been our experience.
schrodinger's cat
@Schlemazel: My last house that I moved from was on old farm house that had identical woodwork and low ceilings. It also had tiny closets. That’s the style I guess. I am glad to have normal sized ceilings and adequate closet space now.
laura
You’re gonna love that house like no one’s loved that house, come rain or come shine.
You’re gonna look back and wonder why you didn’t buy that house sooner (cause you couldn’t have), and everyone who ever knew you is going to tell you that that house was meant for you. And they’ll all be right, and you’ll be pissed, and you’ll have a home.
And that will make all the difference in your world.
Promise.
max
@Ian: I have to vote with the people who think it looks pink. Maybe it is your camera?
The Pepto-Bismol must be really interesting looking in your world.
max
[‘God Knows what the breast cancer people look like.’]
SiubhanDuinne
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Oh yes. And then there’s CON-TACT adhesive paper. I remember papering an entire guest bathroom in my first married apartment in a complicated brown-and-gold pattern. Brown and gold for a BATHROOM, what the fuck was I thinking? My only excuse is that it was 1964 and I was 21 years old.
Ruckus
Building equity? What do you think you’ve been doing, building a piano? Of course you are building equity. And wiring, and plumbing and roofing and…………. There is nothing go green as the pot of dreams at the end of the homeowners rainbow. The pot is green, the contents might just not be.
Ian
@Roger Moore:
Too many bad experiences thinking it was lemonade in the snow have taught me not to make that mistake.
randy khan
I vote that it’s purple (and I guess we can be confident Cole didn’t Photoshop it). Purple is a fine color. We have it on several walls in our house.
max
@Francis: B. Have you looked into a HELOC (home equity line of credit)? With all the work done, your house should have substantially increased in value. Since HELOCs are secured by a second mortgage, the interest rates are usually really low, and I think that the interest payments are tax-advantaged.
Whoa, hang on here, man. I’m starting to get real estate bubble flashbacks. A HELOC is only good under some circumstances – basically, if he put all this on a credit card, he should get a HELOC, otherwise, this is Bethany, WV, and nobody is going to want that house enough to pay the interest on second mortgage.
max
[‘But if he’s putting it on his credit cards, a HELOC is a VERY good idea.’]
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
You are a brave woman, especially living in New England.
Also, FTFY.
Ruckus
@randy khan:
One can operate Photoshop without breaking body parts. So you probably are correct.
NotMax
Musing that if had a third floor with usable bedrooms, would make those for guests and take advantage of living alone to convert the spare bedroom on the same floor as the master bedroom into a dynamite walk-in closet/wardrobe/dressing area. YMMV.
@J R in WV
A bit more pricey, but there’s a wide range of bamboo, grasscloth or other chinoiserie-inspired wallpapers which are lovely and hold up very well over time. Not necessarily something for a whole house but super nice in a bedroom, hallway or dining room.
SFBayAreaGal
@John Cole I love the colors of your house. My sisters and I hired interior painter company to paint all the rooms in our house. Each room, hallways, and bathrooms are different colors. We went from renter’s white to living color.
When my mom moved in we called the same painters to paint her room. This was a few years after they had painted our house. When I asked them if they remembered who we were they said yes. They had nicknamed our house the rainbow house. They loved that we weren’t afraid to use colors.
JPL
@Belafon: I was just talking to a friend about the olden days. Earlier I heard that Tillerson did the right thing while dealing with Putin, because he was working on behalf of the stockholders. WTF about the workers. Exxon has a lot of employees what about them.
The worker is lost in the current discussion.
I really do hate those that throw the employees under the bus..
MomSense
@schrodinger’s cat:
I removed layers and layers of wallpaper over horsehair plaster in 6 rooms. Good times.
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: You should see their faces, when I say that! Too funny, its like apostasy in these parts.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
Friends dad bought a house that had been painted by someone on a rather wild acid trip. At least that’s the only excuse that makes any sense. Flat black and some assorted other colors, none of which belong in a house. Not even a frat house. One coat of oil based paint covered it fine. Of course the house was in Mammoth Lakes, CA and we were painting in the winter so leaving the doors and windows open to air out was…… interesting.
NotMax
@SFBayAreaGal
Obligatory film clip.
Bob2
It’s Fucking Pink.
Shana
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: We’re all different in our tastes.
Ruckus
@SFBayAreaGal:
I painted my house in OH different colors in all the rooms. What would be the kids bedroom was a blue. Not nearly as subtle as it looked in the store. Almost needed sunglasses to be in the room. Have to say kids liked it.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@SiubhanDuinne:
Oh, I have stories of that first house, which are funny now, but boy howdy, I’m getting PTSD from the flashbacks. The downstairs bathroom was wallpapered – including THE DOOR AND CEILING – with a lemon yellow, brown and black giant abstract print on silver foil. That was on the inside. On the outside, the hallway, including the outside of the bathroom door and 3 OTHER DOORS AND THE CEILING – were wallpapered in a silver and pink mottled foil wallpaper, and all the baseboards and door trim was PAINTED IN BABY PINK. The bathroom at the top of the stairs was covered, walls, ceiling and linen closet, in wallpaper with a deep red background and with a deep blue busy pattern inside repeating diamond shapes, so that it looked like it moved if you were sitting on the toilet and not quite focused on it. The first time my youngest, who was 2 1/2 at the time, looked up the stairs at the bathroom, pointed at it and said ‘HOT’. LOL It did look like a portal to the gates of some kind of fresh hell.
retiredeng
When we bought our first house and had the (simple) stuff done before moving in, the main one was refinishing the floors. We had to skip the third floor and the stairway to it because we ran out of cash. Buying your first house or a fixer upper is financially draining to ordinary folks.
sukabi
@Ian: the swatch that was linked to in the first paint post was a very lovely shade of lilac.
Pogonip
Cole, within three months you’re going to be sick of that glaring yellow. Paint over it now while you don’t have furniture to move.
Pogonip
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: You didn’t buy the house from Charlotte Perkins Gilman by any chance, did you?
JPL
E. R. Braithwaite, who wrote To sir, with love, died at the age of 104. A life well lived.
NotMax
@Ruckus
Local hardware store in rural PA had a once per year markdown on incorrectly mixed, returned, discontinued or otherwise unmovable cans of paint, at $1 per gallon. Had to trek down to the bowels of the store basement to buy them.
Friend’s father who had a multi-story warehouse (IIRC, five floors) tasked me with buying as much as I could. Loaded up the stalwart station wagon with over 100 gallons (yeah, it the rode kind of low), dropped them off at the warehouse in NJ. Paint was poured into 55–gallon drums and stirred together. Whatever color resulted was what the inside of the warehouse was painted. Sort of a brownish-green.
liberal
Awesome Asimov reference
Patricia Kayden
Looking good, John. I would say that buying a house and saving Walter made 2016 a pretty cool year for you.
planetpundit
John’s house now has a name; it is “The Pink House”
debit
@opiejeanne: I’m totally afraid of color. After years of living in a rented house I really thought I’d dive into painting my new home. But the walls are still white and will probably stay that way. I figure if I want to change up the room I’ll do it with curtains and art. That way, if I hate it it’s an easy change that doesn’t require masking tape and drop cloths.
I wonder what happened to me. When I was a teenager I insisted that two walls of my room be painted a sunny orange, and the other two a lemon yellow. In semi gloss. It was very, um, cheery, as I recall. My mom still shudders when I mention it.
Patricia Kayden
@JPL: I didn’t know he lived in the US. That’s a movie I never get tired of watching. Poitier is so suave and cool — a precursor for our current POTUS.
Omnes Omnibus
@planetpundit: Call it Big Pink and we might get some good music out of it.
BillinGlendaleCA
@opiejeanne:
As the good lord intended.
SiubhanDuinne
@Pogonip:
Wow, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised (this being Balloon Juice and all) but I didn’t know anybody else knew about CPG, let alone could make a knowledgeable reference. Very nice!
I have an actor/speech coach friend who does, or used to do, a one-woman show about Gilman. I’ll have to ask her if it’s still part of her repertoire.
NotMax
@sukabi
The perfect mustard to complement the color. ;)
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Pogonip:
I don’t know about her, so no – the couple we bought it from was Italian. At the closing they said “you won’t need to change a thing!”
Ruckus
@NotMax:
I’ve heard of people doing that. Just never seen it done. Must have been a nice place to work.
That last line is sarcastic. Just in case you didn’t notice.
Mnemosyne
@Elmo:
No carpet. Tile only.
She does have area rugs, but she feels like she can keep those vacuumed.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Omnes Omnibus: Can we sneak over and paint the pink room “kind of a Saturday night pink,” as I heard Levon call the color of Big Pink in an interview. I wish I still had the link to that. Even more than I want a DEA badge rosewood desk wedge with the job title “Director of Quality Control.” I already have DEA Deputy Duck.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@efgoldman:
I actually love yellow, but can’t wear it, either. It’s for the olive skinned or darker. It’s a great color – there’s a Ralph Lauren paint that’s yellow – like a butter color – that’s so creamy and nice, and I painted bathroom in that I never tired of, but, I don’t own a single article of yellow clothing so I totally get it.
schrodinger's cat
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: Beige or peach is a difficult color to wear too. Anything close to one’s skin tone is tricky to wear. I love white for shirts or blouses, can’t go wrong with a crisp white shirt.
Elmo
@Ruckus: Dude I think I rented that house. Srsly I lived in Mammoth for almost ten years and rented a house that had the kitchen and all the appliances painted black at one point.
Davison Lane? Up at the top, near Hut II?
frosty
@NotMax:
Speaking for myself, wallpaper is frowned upon by anyone who has had to steam off the strange selection put up by the DPO*.
And after assessing the condition of the walls once the steaming is complete, we usually find out why they were wallpapered. We’ve got a guy coming tomorrow to repair what we found in the latest room we stripped.
*Damned Previous Owner
Elmo
@Mnemosyne: Very good. Our current house is all bamboo flooring, but the 160lb Anatolian is doing a number on the finish…
Omnes Omnibus
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
It forms a picture, doesn’t it?
NotMax
@efgoldman
Actually seen during the 70s (and seared into memory) was the living room of one house visited for some reason or another in Long Beach on Lawnguyland.
Wall-to-wall intensely orange shag carpeting, lime green couch, two wing chairs – one apple red and one turquoise – and a lemon yellow vinyl recliner.
Helen Keller would have blanched.
frosty
@Steve in the ATL:
Whew! I don’t think I could go with a Lake Placid Blue room. Daphne Blue maybe ….
SFBayAreaGal
@Ruckus: It’s hard looking at other people houses that are only painted in white. I love seeing colors.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Ruckus: You’ve never seen me work with Photoshop.
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: We’ve never seen you work, ya bum.
CaseyL
Hey, those are the colors I painted my house! Creamy green in the living room, a creamier purple (less red than yours) in the main bedroom, and bright bright yellow in the kitchen. My entry hall and dining room/craft area are orange, and the two bathrooms are teal.
I figured, when I got started, why not have fun? Paint (nearly) every room a different color? That’s what I did, and I love it!
Good on you, John. Make your house a rainbow.
J R in WV
@NotMax:
We’re old style, all matte paint, pale yellow, V pale green. V pale lavender on different types of walls/ceilings. One pale rose IIRC. I picked slightly bolder colors by a couple of shades in Arizona cabin interior, but basically the same color set…
I’m planning some small bold strips of bright color in places, but haven’t got to it yet.
BillinGlendaleCA
When my landlord redid my bathroom earlier this year, he painted it operating room green. I seriously wanted to start cutting myself everytime I took a crap. He said I could repaint it, I did so the next day(off white(yellowish) with off white(blueish) trim).
BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: There are worse things than being a bum.
Omnes Omnibus
@CaseyL:
\
She comes in colors everywhere….
lamh36
Cole…I like Blue…please make my room blue…thank you sir…lol.
So is this a new things nowadays where every room has a different color pattern?
I mean I’m cool with it, but is it more common nowadays than it used to be?
Omnes Omnibus
@BillinGlendaleCA: True, one could be Baud.
NotMax
@J R in WV
Knew someone who wanted spots and dashes of color here and there and proceeded to paste various colors of carpet tile randomly on the walls.
Not recommended.
Omnes Omnibus
@lamh36:
Traditionally, that kind of color use was an upper class thing. Look at the rooms in Downton Abbey.
Skepticat
As the fellow says in The King’s Speech, “My castle, my rules.” If you like a color, it’s the right color. Though I soooo understand how ephemeral is the concept of equity when you’re spending all that money, know that the place is looking fabulous and you should be proud.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Oh yes you can, if you drink black coffee or red wine.
Can’t tell you the amount of money I’ve spent my n white blouses and shirts and sweaters over the years. Can’t tell you how many of them have been worn EXACTLY ONCE before being consigned to Saturday chores.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne:
Not drink, spill.
alr
Longtime lurker / rare commenter: I feel your pain. I completed a new house build in August and am still “moving in”. It’s lovely and exactly what I wanted, but the thousands of dollars that flew out of the pocket is disconcerting to say the least. All I can say is hang in there, spend money where it’s important (structure, foundation, windows, floors) and compromise where you can on the rest. That was my approach and I’m very happy with the results.
NotMax
Best home painting skit ever.
Ruckus
@Elmo:
This is a long, long time ago, I was still in HS. So stone age. Mammoth was very small and rather undeveloped at the time, compared to now, I believe it was in what is now old Mammoth. To show you how undeveloped the only restaurant in town was Welch’s Pancake House. Which of course we called Belch’s. There was a small market and it was considered a miracle when someone started making Mexican food in their kitchen and selling it out of the back door, that Mammoth now had two restaurants.
rikyrah
can we get a new thread?
Larry O has on about Vlad directing the interference HIMSELF
Ruckus
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Even I can work with Photoshop without injuries. OK, I could 10-15 yrs ago.
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: I like my coffee with cream and prefer white to red. One can always bleach white stuff. White shirt + Jeans are FTW.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yep and nope.
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Bold colors are OK for large rooms. Otherwise the walls feel like they are closing in. I prefer neutrals and pastels for walls.
NotMax
@schrodinger’s cat
Yeah, red cream is kind of iffy.
:)
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
You are a stickler for accuracy.
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: I am not big on wine actually. I prefer gin or beer (not hoppy) on the rare occasions that I do drink.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: I’ve seen people doing one wall with a bold color and leaving the others neutral.
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
Somebody else had a link to the same story. Apparently Vlad is a founding member of the He-Man Hillary Haterz Club.
schrodinger's cat
@NotMax: Won’t red+cream be pink, or JC’s favorite color?
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: If one drinks successfully, nothing ends up on one’s clothing. Or so I have been lead to believe.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Have never found a bleach that really removed the stain.
Anyhow, I have a drawer full of formerly “white” tops that I wear when I’m doing sweaty, dirty work. But for everyday use? You’ll find me in something that doesn’t reveal my every meal.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Maybe with bendy straws, but that seems a bit childish for a dignified adult such as myself.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Sigh…
Yarrow
@rikyrah: I think it was just breaking tonight. I saw something about it on the NBC Nightly News when I was rewinding the DVR to try and find some local news to get the weather.
I don’t understand this – Putin directed how to use the intelligence? That’s crazy stuff. Sounds like a micro manager.
jnfr
I love everything you’re doing here.
max
@efgoldman: The flooring guy said he could sand it out and refinish the floor, but eventually it would come to the surface again. So our living room has cherrywood Pergo.
Huh? If he can sand it out, it ain’t coming back. The color tone might be slightly different but once the whole floor has been sanded and shellacked, it wouldn’t make much diff. (Have done this myself.)
@lamh36: So is this a new things nowadays where every room has a different color pattern?
{decides not to tell lamh36 he has a different color on each wall of one room}
max
[‘la la la lalalala.’]
Omnes Omnibus
@jnfr: To me, it looks like he is doing a good job with the restoration/rehab.. OTOH, my taste would not have led me to buy a house like that. Due to that, I am not getting the love that others are feeling. It is not a criticism of the JC, his house, or those who love what he is doing with it. Nevertheless, that room seems pinkish.
Pogonip
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: She wrote a famous horror story, “The Yellow Wallpaper.”
Emma
@SiubhanDuinne: Same here. I just bought two white shirts in a stubborn attempt at sophisticated dressing. I give them six weeks max.
Betsy
There is an old sign over the cash register at my local housepaint-and-art-supply store which reads “Husbands Selecting Paint Colors Must Have Note From Wife.”
This is why.
opiejeanne
@BillinGlendaleCA: Chicken. This is my house The color is Agave, and not quite as bright as it looks here.
Lizzy L
Your fucking house. YOU have to like it, that’s all that matters.
I agree with whoever said upthread that if you’re putting this on credit cards, you should consider a HELOC. Credit cards are an invention of the devil. HELOCs can be problematic, especially in times of rapidly rising interest rates, because they are almost always variable rate loans, but still better than credit cards.
Lizzy L
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s what I did in my house. I like it a lot.
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: There used to be a very nice white paint with a hint of rose in it but not enough that you’d even notice it. It was called Mission White, but it has gone the way of the dinosaurs. It was a nice “quiet” color and my off-white living room at that time had been painted an off-white with a yellowish background. Didn’t realize how “noisy” the room color was until we started painting.it. Afterward it was a joy to be in that room, but before that no one wanted to stay long.
satby
After living with five teen boys one year (2 bio sons, 2 foster sons, one exchange student) I was in need of some testosterone reduction. I was also going through a stage where I was doing sponge paint finishes. I bought three compatible shades of pink “oops” paint from Lowes, a pale pink, a darker pink, and a deeper one that was rose. And then used all three to sponge paint a 12×15 bedroom. It turned out beautifully, as long as you liked pink. It was my haven away from the kids; and I am not at all a girly girl.
satby
@opiejeanne: I love that!
Mnemosyne
@Yarrow:
Here’s the link from the thread below. What the actual fuck? When do we wake up from this nightmare?
lamh36
@max: Oh my…lol…like 4 walls…4 different solid prime colors…not even the same “color wheel”…lol
MomSense
@SiubhanDuinne:
Ever tried using salt on a red wine stain?
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Eleventh Hour on MSNBC is headlining it right now.
This is unbefuckinglievable.
Nightmare doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Suzanne
Bright white for ceilings. Especially in brightly colored rooms, and even more especially if you have ceiling-mounted lighting.
I personally have a hard time living with bright colors, but I think it looks great so far. I am a gray person, and then I go for colors in easily changeable accent items, like pillows. Currently, the main areas of the house are in Dunn Edwards Rainy Season, and my bedroom is in Sherwin Williams Anew Gray. I am loving Dunn Edwards Cloud and Benjamin Moore Revere Pewter right now. GRAAAAAAAAAY!
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
Yes, I have. Usually makes the stain a John Cole-approved shade of pink.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
Has the whole fucking world turned upside down?
It’s not just you, man. It’s been breaking out all over this blog the last month or so. I think the election caused some serious group brain damage. (And I include myself.)
MomSense
@Suzanne:
I love the way it looks except that the weather is gray for so many months here I just can’t paint the walls gray.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
I just started watching it. I sort of like it.
Yarrow
@Mnemosyne: We are not going to wake up from this nightmare. This is an authoritarian coup and we will have to live it. Those asshole tech CEOs that met with Trump today are never going to say no to his Muslim registry or his registry of anyone and everyone. Wouldn’t surprise me if within a decade we all have to chipped like we do with pets. For our “safety” of course.
Kids in the government, refusing to follow norms, humiliating opponents. This guy is a dictator. Things will change very, very fast once he’s in power. Laws will change within weeks. Surveillance state. Libel laws destroy free speech. Increased militarization of police “for our safety.”
The time for waking up from this nightmare was before the election. So here we are. Unless the electors save us. Or some last minute bit of intel from the intelligence community drops.
MomSense
@Yarrow:
ReVote!
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: There’s a choice?
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
It would be nice to have a new thread to discuss it. I feel bad talking about it in a thread that’s supposed to be a respite from the disaster.
ETA: Ask and I shall receive, apparently! Moving the political talk up to the new thread.
SFBayAreaGal
@CaseyL:
Our living room is a sand color with an accent wall a red brownish color.
The hallway downstairs is a bicycle yellow.
The kitchen an aqua blue that changes to a different blue according to the light in the room.
The 1/2 bathroom a pale light green.
The front hallway, walls going up the stairs and hallway upstairs is painted three different colors of orange.
The bathroom upstairs is painted a light ocean blue where the sink is, the bathtub and toliet room is painted a bright coral.
One bedroom is painted a lilac color, the other bedroom a light forest green and slate blue color.
To this day we still love the colors.
Suzanne
@MomSense: I get it. I am very much about having the house be an oasis of serenity, so I keep bright and pastel colors to a minimum in my interior. I like the Rainy Season color because it isn’t plain gray, it has a bit of aqua behind it. But I also have SUUUUUUUUN! And HEEEEEEAT! All the time! And so the days that I get to hide from the unrelenting glare are very welcome.
I am so very grossed out by all of the various shades of beige and tan that were in every interior for a while.
Most architects—and I am no exception here—don’t really go for colors. We prefer materials. So I would look to do accent walls with metal panel or some of the wood or bamboo paneling options, or tile. Or just something. Wainscoting can also be nice.
Pet peeve: chair rails installed higher or lower than the chair actually hits the wall.
SFBayAreaGal
@NotMax: That was funny
opiejeanne
@satby: Thank you. So do the neighbors, now. When the paint had settled down after a couple of weeks, several of them told us how worried they were about the color but that they loved it now that was “set”. I think what scared them was not the paint but the colored primer, which was pretty darned bright and makes this color look very sedate.
The front door is dark red.
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
I know, that’s just so stoopid.
Steeplejack
This Trump spokesman Anthony Scaramucci who was just on MSNBC is an oily sleazeball. Is he the same one who said something earlier today about “the 5,500-year history of our earth”?
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: I thought I had corrected that. My bad.
Mnemosyne
@opiejeanne:
One of the homeowners in our neighborhood just repainted their house in a pretty bright turquoise blue. It looks nice, but my first thought was, “There must not be an HOA for this neighborhood!”
NotMax
@Steeplejack
Yup, the very same spokesass, when mouthing nonsense about climate change.
opiejeanne
@MomSense: Me too. Are you in the Pacific Northwest? We painted our East-facing bedroom a nice light yellow, but the paint has faded so much in the past six years that it looks like French Vanilla ice cream. I wanted a sunny, cheerful room to wake up in., and it still is but I’m just about to repaint it.
One guest room is a light gray-green, the other is PURPLE!. It was an accident/mistake on my part. I was going to paint it lilac and put a little paint on the walls, and panicked. Took it back to the store and said “make it darker”. I should have just waited for it to settle down, I know this about fresh paint, but it was so vibrant it nearly buzzed. So now it is purple with teal bedspread and accents, white trim around the windows and crown molding and baseboard, and our guests all tell us they love it. It’s like sleeping in a cave, and it faces West so the sun doesn’t slam into them first thing. Some day it will be lilac, but not today.
You can see that we had no furniture in the room yet, other than the bed. We slept in there after the floors were finished until our furniture was delivered from storage, but we did have Tommy.
purple guest room
MomSense
@Suzanne:
I do love my Scandinavian blue. Not sure the actual name of the color but it’s a light blue green with a lot of gray in it. No beige for me because it ends up looking muddy when the weather is gray.
I’m really wanting to sell everything and build an ultra modern, small (not tiny!) near zero house but then I get sentimental about my antiques and family pieces. If I do build a near zero house it may have to look like a small barn.
I’ve started looking at land way up north and thinking about life with sheep and alpacas. Not s big fan of people right now.
MomSense
@Suzanne:
I haven’t been bold enough for purples or lavenders but I do have blues, greens and yellows with white trim. My house is a classic cape cod and I planted a cottage garden.
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: My dad had to choose an “approved” color for his San Dimas house. All the choices were in the beige family. It was ok but I really like having a color on my house.
And I just realized that every room in my house is a different color, the guest bath has a 2/3rds finished mural that I have to get back to, and the stairwell has a mural by a pro on the wall facing the front door. grisaille in tones of light brown. That stairwell also has two colors on the ground floor and gives way to a light blue upstairs There’s a trim piece that separates the colors at the level of the second floor.
mural
opiejeanne
@MomSense: I noticed today that my previous house was on the market again and whoever staged it and photographed it was a damned fool. It’s a charming cottage and not a bit of paint has been changed, it’s just like we left it 6 years ago, but the furniture and arrangement of same is just terrible. Cheap modern stuff that doesn’t fit the rooms and is pushed against the walls, no art anywhere, two cheap pots hanging on the nice pot rack we installed.
Also, the morons killed the little garden. yanked out all the rose-bushes, removed the raised beds, most of the fruit trees, and all that’s there is dirt. It’s so stupid, and that garden was part of what sold it when we listed it. It didn’t take that much water to take care of it, and cutting down peach and apple trees just as they are producing is ridiculous.
opiejeanne
@MomSense: That sounds charming.
Pogonip
@SiubhanDuinne: I hope Cole doesn’t win the Charlotte Perkins Gilman decorating award.
I think it likely most horror readers know about Charlotte. “The Yellow Wallpaper” is in at least half the horror anthologies I’ve seen, and the two Big Names of 20th-century horror, Stephen King and H.P. Lovecraft, both praised it.
Pogonip
I have to agree with Cole that that one room isn’t pink. Looks mauve to me.
SFBayAreaGal
@Pogonip: Shirley Jackson was another horror writer.
MomSense
@opiejeanne:
Gorgeous mural. @opiejeanne:
It’s a crime to destroy a garden like that. The plow has destroyed two of my pear trees but that was the fault of the winter from hell. I’m tempted to try some espalier apple trees along the edge of the back yard since I don’t have a lot of space.
Omnes Omnibus
@Pogonip: It doesn’t matter. The room is the color that it is. What we see on our browsers is immaterial.
Pogonip
@SFBayAreaGal: Indeed she was! King devoted about ten pages to “The Haunting of Hill House” in his horror review, “Danse Macabre.”
And “Hill House”‘s opening paragraph is wonderful. I never get tired of it.
Suzanne
@opiejeanne: We have a HOA, which irritates me on occasion. Our neighborhood has a lot of grounds in addition to a small public park, as well as a community swimming pool. We really like all of the outdoor spaces in the neighborhood, because we have a canal running through our superblock. Most of the canals around here are just concrete troughs, ugly and not safe to swim in because they flow too fast. But when they planned our neighborhood, they made it into a riparian space with natural banks, so it is slower moving, and we get a lot of wading birds like herons and coots and cranes, which is rare for Phoenix.
HOWEVER. The damn HOA has like six approved colors for the trim elements on the houses. They all have “Navajo White” walls with red tile roofs, and then the doors, fascia, and soffits get to be painted one of the approved colors. We have dark brown. Only FSM knows why, but the HOA lady is somehow convinced that we have repainted to an unapproved color, and she sends us probably one letter a year for the last seven years saying that we need to change the color back to the original color. SHUT UP DUMB LADY!
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: You knew what you were getting with an HOA. You bought in.
I'll be Frank
@NotMax: That’s fine as a base coat, but then you have to rag off (I’d recommend saran wrap rather than rags given the strength of the base colors) a glaze coat of a neutral. Of course it would be even better if the walls were first painted whore house gold or fire engine red, then add the interesting geometrics of color, then raging off the glaze. The base coat needs to be really strong jewel tone. Of course painting the walls beige, taping off a nice geometric and raging off a slightly lighter glaze makes for a fantastic wall that looks like suede.
NotMax
@I’ll be Frank
In the case I mentioned the carpet tiles were the choice of decoration, and intended to stay there.
SWMBO
@NotMax: I like the simple way.
https://youtu.be/T9MAmWnOznI
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Um, no. It is blatantly obvious to anyone who has eyes that A) the doors have not been repainted and there are photos on file to prove it, and B) the doors are one of the approved colors, as three other houses on the street have the same accent color. Buying into an HOA doesn’t mean I signed up for complete idiocy. That’s like saying that you deserve food poisoning for eating at Red Lobster. I kinda chewed her out last time about it.
brettvk
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: I worked for a paint store (briefly) in the 70s and tried to sell that damn foil supergraphic wallpaper, but even then it was just too much.
My present abode – my first and only purchased home, bought rather late in life – was previously a rental, and someone gussied up the front bedroom with florid floral wallpaper, pinks and lavenders on a dark green ground, and painted all the nice old woodwork bright pink. My mother took one look at it and said, “Y’know, they had seven different shades of pink in that pattern to work with, and they had to go Barbie instead.”
Suzanne
@efgoldman: Some of the historic district here have similar restrictions on colors and materials. I’m not in a historic district, just a circa late-80s neighborhood of one-coat stucco houses, like most of the Phoenix suburbs. I have lived in neighborhoods where the HOAs were fine, and others where they are a nightmare. I get why people hate them, but it is nice to have limits on that one douche neighbor. I had a neighbor who was very strongly pro-forced birth who would hang large pictures of aborted fetuses in her living room windows facing the street. The HOA went postal on that shit, thank God.
Mnemosyne
@opiejeanne:
Nice! I think it’s this same turquoise house that has a really cool cactus and cracked geode garden in front, with colored lights on the geodes at night. It looks really gorgeous.
MomSense
@Suzanne:
I have a friend who lives in a historic district. She was summoned to a hearing because she painted the exterior of her house several glorious shades of purple. Let’s just say the review board was not expecting her to bring in photographs of her house when it was a brothel. Half naked women in racy clothing on all the porches and balconies and laundered lacy undergarments and stockings drying on the railings.
opiejeanne
@Omnes Omnibus: We bought in one and moved out within two years. Nice house, and the small 27 house community had a reputation for the best, least annoying HOA board in Huntington Beach. Six months down the road and half the board had moved to nicer digs closer to the beach, a nice new development, and the people who took over the board alienated everyone left in about 3 months. They were so damned petty about every little thing that we began to hate them. The mean girls from HS, now middle-aged, plus the older men who are into everyone’s business because they have nothing to do and they’re bored.
Mnemosyne
I’m getting an ad for some building material called Allura at the top of the page, and I swear that the house in the ad looks like it’s straight out of McMansion Hell.
opiejeanne
@MomSense: It really had been a bordello?
opiejeanne
@MomSense: Our previous house, the one with the missing garden, is barely under the wire to qualify for the Mills Act as an Historic House. It has to be kept looking like it did originally or at least like it probably looked, landscaping, paint color, etc. Just the front. In exchange, the owner gets a very tidy break on their property tax.
It was built in 1947. ’48 is the cut-off.
Mary G
I am considering taking money out of savings to paint my house. All the interior walls are white and I am not good at picking paints, so I’m dithering. Even when I buy quarts and paint test patches, the full paint color never looks like I thought it would.
opiejeanne
@efgoldman: I know. We thought it was a little silly too. We have houses that go back to 1879, but yes, they decided that 1947 was the cut-off date. This is Anaheim, which was mostly orange groves until Disneyland opened. Not very many houses older than the twenties.
Technically it’s mid-century modern, but it’s more cottage than anything else. The one mid-century feature it has is the fireplace from the Incredibles’ house.
joel hanes
@Mnemosyne:
My mother … says it drives her nuts to think that dirt is accumulating behind [wallpaper]
never show her the following Updike poem
Rats
A house has rotten places: cellar walls
where mud replaces mortar every rain
the loosening board that begged for nails in vain
the sawed-off stairs, and smelly nether halls
the rare repairman never looks behind, and if he did
would, disconcerted, find
long spaces, lathed, where dead air grows a scum
of fuzz, and rubble deepens crumb by crumb
Here they live. Hear them on their boulevards
beneath the attic flooring tread the shards
of panes from long ago, and Fiberglas
fallen to dust, and droppings, and dry clues
to crimes no longer news. The villians pass
with scrabbly traffic-noise; their avenues
run parallel to chambers of our own
where we pretend we’re clean and all alone
low-tech cyclist
On my monitor it’s purple.
But here’s the problem: people seem to have decided that all sorts of shades of purple are ‘pink.’
Call me old-fashioned, but PINK IS A BLEND OF RED AND WHITE, with NO OTHER COLORS IN THE MIX.
Half the things that people nowadays call pink are freakin’ LIGHT PURPLE, with the shades of blue plainly in evidence. A mixture of red and blue is purple or violet or burgundy or garnet or whatever, but a mixture of red and blue, no matter how much red and white and how little blue is in the mix, is NOT PINK.
grumpy realist
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: You remind me of what I said when I walked into my condo: “That white carpet has to go. And so does that mushroom beige on the walls.”
Who in the HELL puts a white carpet on the floor?!
(And John–you have reminded me of the old comment: “Mauve is just pink trying to be purple.” Your walls are mauve. Very Edwardian.)
Bobby Thomson
That “pink” is smoke on the water deep purple. All y’all are blind.
I'll be Frank
@NotMax: Reading comprehension. It works how?