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You are here: Home / Politics / America / Make Sure to Save the Date!

Make Sure to Save the Date!

by Adam L Silverman|  December 14, 20164:09 pm| 103 Comments

This post is in: America, An Unexamined Scandal, Because of wow., Domestic Politics, Election 2008, Election 2012, Events, Open Threads, Politics, Post-racial America, Silverman on Security, General Stupidity, OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUDS, Our Awesome Meritocracy, Our Failed Media Experiment, Our Failed Political Establishment, Outrage

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Oy vey…

OMG. Joe Arpaio will keep the birther bullshit going until Obama leaves office pic.twitter.com/6Aj4ffBEWl

— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) December 14, 2016

 

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  1. 1.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 14, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    I’m going to the gym. You all have fun!

  2. 2.

    FoxinSocks

    December 14, 2016 at 4:12 pm

    BTW-If anyone is in the DC area on Saturday, there will be a protest against Trump and his policies – https://www.facebook.com/events/208766682860195 Resist!

  3. 3.

    mai naem mobile

    December 14, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    Joe Arpaios going to be too busy in court for his racial profiling/not following court orders court case. I just hope his lawyers drag it on long enough that Lumpy is impeached before he can pardon him.

  4. 4.

    Это курам на смех

    December 14, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    To correct Stein, this will never end. Arpaio lost his re-election bid, so the wingnut welfare train is now leaving the station.

  5. 5.

    scuffletuffle

    December 14, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    A drone strike would not be out of order here, IMO.

  6. 6.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: knowing you, I expect you back just before Joe’s announcement then.

  7. 7.

    randy khan

    December 14, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    If there were any justice, the only media representatives attending the press conference would be Andy Borowitz and somebody from The Onion.

  8. 8.

    ruckus

    December 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    Alas, gone but not forgotten. He’s what 80 yrs old, an ignorant racist and just got himself unelected. Give him a break, it will take him a while to understand that means he can’t be a public bully any longer.

  9. 9.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    Trump Family weirdness continues:

    Ivanka Trump will reportedly inherit an office in the same White House space typically used by the First Lady — the latest evidence that the President-elect’s eldest daughter is preparing to take on a substantial White House role in her father’s administration.
    According to CNN, the younger Trump, who has been increasingly involved not only in her father’s presidential transition but in prospective policy initiatives as well, hasn’t yet been given a formal title for a potential White House job, but she will receive an office in the “same space reserved for First Lady” inside the White House, which is usually the East Wing.

    I didn’t know the President could just swap out family members like that. What a bizarre thing this is, how she and her husband have just decided they have some “role” that they’re free to invent. I’d say they’ll use some discretion and restraint and understand they weren’t actually elected to anything, but I know that’s not true. It’s just the beginning of the overreach we’ll be subjected to by these horrible, graceless, classless people.

  10. 10.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 14, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I got to teach a kid’s aikido class after the workout, so about 7:30 PM EST.

  11. 11.

    Pogonip

    December 14, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    @Kay: I must differ on this one. If Melania doesn’t want to use the office, why shouldn’t Ivanka use it?

  12. 12.

    bowtiejack

    December 14, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    @Kay:
    “. . . these horrible, graceless, classless people.”

    Nailed it.
    And it’s confirmed by how oblivious they are to it and sure of their very own special specialness.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    December 14, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    @Kay: “Person that Donald listens to” is going to be a powerful position, regardless of whether there’s going to be a formal title attached to it. Sort of like the flapper in Jonathan Swift’s Laputa.

  14. 14.

    gvg

    December 14, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    @Kay: uh, i don’t think the first Lady is an actual office in the constitution. People just sort of expect it. used to be there were strict social obligations and there was I seem to recall a widower whose eldest daughter acted as his hostess. The house is a family house. Obama’s mother in law moved in to help with the children. Hillary caused a huge fuss because she didn’t just act as a um party coordinator back when which seemed old fashioned and strange back at the time to me. So basically she can have the office space but seeing classified documents or having any of her own authority is where it stops. Now she can influence her father, all children can as well as friends and even random letter writers really.
    I think there are stories that one President was actually incapacitated and his wife was acting as if all was well for the last few months…but that has to have been with the complicity of the cabinet and the Congressional leaders. Don’t recall who it was but it was a long time ago. Not satisfactory for the nuclear age though.

  15. 15.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Sure! When I get a job my grown son and daughter get one too, right? But only if there’s an empty office.

    I think adult children are adults, therefore not extensions of their parents or fill-ins for their parents. I’m old fashioned that way.

  16. 16.

    Major Major Major Major

    December 14, 2016 at 4:32 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: you shouldn’t be too tired then, I imagine they’re pretty easy to throw around.

  17. 17.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @gvg:

    Yeah, I’ll get back to you when she’s running “policy” for women, which is what she’s announced she’s doing.

    She should run for the House or Senate. Get elected. Earn a powerful position. Outrageous demand on my part, I know.

    No one elected Ivanka Trump and her husband. To anything.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: They’re usually wound up like a cheap watch!

  19. 19.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: One would be surprised.

  20. 20.

    gene108

    December 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    @gvg:

    Woodrow Wilson

  21. 21.

    Waldo

    December 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    Can’t expect ol’ Sheriff Joe to claim his legal troubles are politically motivated without reminding people of the dumb sh1t he did to provoke the imagined retaliation.

  22. 22.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    @gvg:

    I think there are stories that one President was actually incapacitated and his wife was acting as if all was well for the last few months…but that has to have been with the complicity of the cabinet and the Congressional leaders. Don’t recall who it was but it was a long time ago. Not satisfactory for the nuclear age though.

    Are you thinking of Edith Wilson? The President suffered a severe stroke in 1919 and his wife and doctors essentially conspired to keep it from the public. He served out the rest of his term (until March 1921) effectively incapacitated.

  23. 23.

    JMG

    December 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    @gvg: That was Woodrow Wilson. And of course, Nancy Reagan did the same when Reagan began to slip into Alzheimer’s in his second term.

  24. 24.

    mai naem mobile

    December 14, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    @Kay: don’t forget the Ivankas husband could be doing all kids of illegal stuff based on info she gives him and you couldn’t even ask her in court because they’re married. I can’t imagine what the GOP would be saying if a Democrat did this. Seriously for the millionth time with this family WTF?

  25. 25.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 4:39 pm

    Kay,

    from the Daily News twitter feed:

    Ivanka Trump is getting an office in the White House that is typically reserved for the FIRST LADY.

  26. 26.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 4:40 pm

    @Kay:

    Sorry Kay, I hadn’t refreshed the post. should have know that you would be on it.

  27. 27.

    FlipYrWhig

    December 14, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    @Kay: Trump clearly has a monarchical model of what he thinks rule looks like. So far we’ve seen courtiers, successors, patronage, prerogative, and entanglements between public and private aspects of the reign. It’s like a time machine back to 1639.

  28. 28.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    @Kay:

    I didn’t know the President could just swap out family members like that. What a bizarre thing this is, how she and her husband have just decided they have some “role” that they’re free to invent.

    Do they have SECURITY CLEARANCES?

  29. 29.

    Tom Levenson

    December 14, 2016 at 4:41 pm

    @gvg:

    I think there are stories that one President was actually incapacitated and his wife was acting as if all was well for the last few months…but that has to have been with the complicity of the cabinet and the Congressional leaders. Don’t recall who it was but it was a long time ago. Not satisfactory for the nuclear age though.

    That would have been Woodrow Wilson and his wife

    There is significant evidence and more speculation that Nancy Reagan took on at least something of the same role as her husband’s dementia became impossible to ignore.

    ETA: I see others got there first, as they do.

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    December 14, 2016 at 4:43 pm

    December 15, 2016
    For Immediate Release:
    Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office
    Joe Arpaio, Shuriff is Neer
    News Alert

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio will brief the press on results of his exhaustive investigation of the Zapruder film, now with 70% more Zapruder. Refreshments will be flung at the press. Y’all come.

    Also, too, damn I bet Trump! is jealous of Duterte. How is he going to top this?

    Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has said he personally killed suspected criminals when he was mayor of a southern city to set an example for police. Duterte made the comments in a speech late on Monday night to businessmen as he discussed his campaign to eradicate illegal drugs, which has seen police and unknown assailants kill thousands of people since he became president on June 30.

    After speaking about police killing suspects during the current crime war, Duterte said he led similar efforts when he was mayor of Davao, the major southern city that he ruled for most of the previous 20 years.

    “In Davao I used to do it personally. Just to show to the guys (police) that if I can do it why can’t you,” Duterte said in his speech at the presidential palace. “And I’d go around in Davao with a motorcycle, with a big bike around, and I would just patrol the streets, looking for trouble also. I was really looking for a confrontation so I could kill.”

  31. 31.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    @Kay:

    I didn’t know the President could just swap out family members like that. What a bizarre thing this is, how she and her husband have just decided they have some “role” that they’re free to invent. I’d say they’ll use some discretion and restraint and understand they weren’t actually elected to anything, but I know that’s not true. It’s just the beginning of the overreach we’ll be subjected to by these horrible, graceless, classless people.

    As a Black person, I will say that it’s quite interesting, watching White people fall over themselves to try and normalize this, and try and make sense of this.

    Because, they know damn well if Barack Obama had tried ANY of this shyt, they would be yelling from the rooftops.
    Folks are keeping receipts on this.
    The bending over backwards to excuse away this mediocre White man and his offenses….makes the lips purse.

  32. 32.

    Chip Daniels

    December 14, 2016 at 4:44 pm

    As Andrew Sullivan might say, Ivanka’s relationship to Donald makes you go Hmmm.

  33. 33.

    gene108

    December 14, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Ivanka Trump is getting an office in the White House that is typically reserved for the FIRST LADY.

    Makes sense. Trump does want to date her (if she was not his daughter). Maybe he can act out some of his pent up romantic feelings by having her play the part usually reserved for the President’s spouse in his White House.

    And yes it is gross. But these are gross people.

  34. 34.

    trollhattan

    December 14, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Do they have SECURITY CLEARANCES?

    Not to worry, she’ll be patted down every time she goes into the Oval Office.

  35. 35.

    lollipopguild

    December 14, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @Kay: Speaking of old fashioned, I could use one right about now.

  36. 36.

    Gelfling 545

    December 14, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    @JMG: And since That Person is incapacitated by virtue of being dumb as a stump, he needs someone to act for him.

  37. 37.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @trollhattan: Is that why he keeps checking for junk in her trunk? Afraid of a little Patricidal Payback?

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    @gvg:

    there was I seem to recall a widower whose eldest daughter acted as his hostess.

    Patsy Jefferson served as her father’s official hostess, and Martin Van Buren’s daughter-in-law did the same for him. Both men were widowers. James Buchanan, a bachelor, asked his niece Harriet Lane to take on typical First Lady duties.

  39. 39.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Snort!

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    As we all know, the more Trump damages the R party and the nation the more they will fall all over themselves to jump higher and farther on board the Trump Bandwagon. Putin now has a net unfavorability rating of 10% with Republicans. Think about that. It’s almost 50/50 on how a self declared R party member feels about Putin.

  41. 41.

    Roger Moore

    December 14, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @gvg:

    uh, i don’t think the first Lady is an actual office in the constitution.

    There are very few offices that are spelled out in the Constitution. Offices mentioned by the Constitution:
    House: Speaker and “other Officers”
    Senate: Vice President (President of the Senate), “other Officers”, and President pro tempore
    Executive Branch: President, Vice President, “the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments”, Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and all other Officers of the United States
    Judiciary: “Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts”

    That’s a pretty sparse and vague list. The only ones mentioned with specificity are the President, VP, Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, and Judges of the Supreme Court. All the other offices are defined either by statute, rules of the legislative bodies, or by custom. The first lady has at least some statutory standing, since she has a government funded staff.

  42. 42.

    beth

    December 14, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    I know the First Lady has a staff so will Ivanka inherit that budget too? And what happens when Melanie moves in? Do we pay for two office staffs (cause you know neither of those ladies is making copies).

  43. 43.

    LeeM

    December 14, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    @Tom Levenson: If Drunk History is a reliable enough source, Nancy was pretty much the brains behind most of Ronnie Ray-guns political career.

  44. 44.

    JPL

    December 14, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    Melania is going to be too busy, along with dozens of staff taking care of Barron in NYC . I have no idea what is going on with that family, but unless all journalists are required to sign a Non Disclosure Agreement, we’ll find out.

  45. 45.

    waspuppet

    December 14, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    @Kay: Overreach? Please. “Everyone” “knows” only Democrats overreach. Republicans are bold and unorthodox.

  46. 46.

    Schlemazel

    December 14, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    @Kay:
    But it is not a job as such, it is just the duties expected of a first lady. This is not the first time someone not married to the President has filled the role. Honestly Ivanka is probably a better fit than the gold-digging ex-hooker he is married to so this is the least of our concerns.

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    Heitkamp for Secretary of Agriculture?

    Really?

    Seriously?

  48. 48.

    Schlemazel

    December 14, 2016 at 5:00 pm

    @Kay:
    Nobody elected Hillary to anything in 1992, were you just as outraged when she led the healthcare effort? Please save the outrage for the really offensive shit he is doing.

  49. 49.

    Clem

    December 14, 2016 at 5:01 pm

    Trump’s business model needs to integrate with the White House and Ivancavitch will be the liaison with the mob boys. Makes more sense with an explanation of the Trump scheme, LLCs and limited partnerships. Via Twitter

  50. 50.

    waspuppet

    December 14, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    @JPL: Melania, from all available evidence, is maybe one degree less pissed about Trump becoming president than we are. I can easily picture Trump the day before he announced telling her “Don’t worry! It’s not like I’ll win!”

  51. 51.

    germy

    December 14, 2016 at 5:02 pm

    @LeeM:

    Nancy was pretty much the brains behind most of Ronnie Ray-guns political career.

    She consulted an astrologer.

  52. 52.

    Schlemazel

    December 14, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    @gvg:
    Harriet Rebecca Lane Johnston acted as First Lady of the United States for her uncle James Buchanan, who was a lifelong bachelor. Martin Van Buren had his daughter do the job.

    This is not without precedent & it is not going to give Ivanka any power or information Mango Mussolini would not have given her anyway

  53. 53.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    White people are the fucking worst.

  54. 54.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    The sociopaths in North Carolina are at it again – calling in a special session.

  55. 55.

    ? Martin

    December 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    California to implement power requirements for computers and monitors sold by 2018.

    All computers sold in California could be required to adopt stricter state energy standards by 2018, cutting computer energy consumption by as much as half, according to new regulations being proposed by the California Energy Commission.

    The commission’s latest computer energy efficiency proposals, if adopted, would make California the first state to mandate such standards. They’re seen as a possible forerunner to the U.S. Department of Energy’s implementation of computer energy use standards nationwide.

    The standards would apply to power use settings on both desktops and laptops, monitors and signage displays sold in California.
    …
    The regulations would save 1,913 gigawatt-hours of power used by computers and 588 gigawatt-hours from monitors and displays yearly, said Andrew McAllister, commissioner for the California Energy Commission. That’s estimated to reduce utility bills by more than $400 million annually by 2024.

    “That’s enough savings to power all homes in San Francisco for a year,” McAllister said.

    Given that several of these companies are based in California, and given that California is responsible for about 1 in 5 computers purchased in this country, that should be enough leverage to move all computer sales in the US to this standard.

    Sorry, WV coal miners, that’s less work for you.

  56. 56.

    Ridnik Chrome

    December 14, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    If there was any justice in this world Arpaio would be doing a stretch in his own jail right now…

  57. 57.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    @rikyrah: She can’t take that job. How fucking stupid and horrible.

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    December 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Yes, it’s not that unusual for a daughter or other female relative to take on the official White House hostess duties (what we currently refer to as “First Lady”) if the President is widowed or single.

    It’s pretty weird that she’s doing it when Trump has a current wife, but maybe the divorce papers are just waiting to be filed after the inauguration.

    And, yes, I just can’t wait to hear the same people who lost their shit about Mrs. Robinson living in the White House fall all over themselves to praise this. Hypocritical motherfuckers. ?

  59. 59.

    Botsplainer

    December 14, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    @Kay:

    Gross.

    She is totally banging him.

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 14, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    @Corner Stone: We generally don’t throw the kids around. We get them warmed up, we do some basics work, then a fun activity, then more basic work, then another fun activity, and repeat for an hour. The fun activities are intended to reinforce the basics. Situational awareness and focus training or strike training made to seem like a game. We don’t do a regimented kids class like you’ll see in some dojos. I’ve seen too many of those, most in various forms of karate, and to be honest the kids just aren’t ready for it until they’re in their teens. Some of the ones I’ve seen remind me of indoctrination centers.

  61. 61.

    gogol's wife

    December 14, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    I’m just steaming about the WaPo article on how Flynn shared classified information with foreign powers without permission. And he was up at the RNC shouting “Lock her up!” Can we please get him locked up? Please?

  62. 62.

    Starfish

    December 14, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    @rikyrah: If Obama had been married THREE TIMES, the religious right would have never let him near the presidency.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    December 14, 2016 at 5:10 pm

    @rikyrah: And some other things pucker!

  64. 64.

    dmsilev

    December 14, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne: It’s pretty clear that Melania was doing the bare minimum possible on the campaign and she didn’t look like she had much interest in the social stuff traditionally associated with the First Lady role, so I guess Ivanka gets that by default.

  65. 65.

    JPL

    December 14, 2016 at 5:11 pm

    @gogol’s wife: IOKIYR

  66. 66.

    JPL

    December 14, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    @dmsilev: Believe me, it’s not by default.

  67. 67.

    Botsplainer

    December 14, 2016 at 5:12 pm

    Hopefully, the folks at Vivid Video have a bunch of Trump based productions ready to go – the more mockery of these people, the better.

  68. 68.

    lollipopguild

    December 14, 2016 at 5:13 pm

    @gogol’s wife: Not gonna happen.

  69. 69.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    She is totally banging him.

    The mutual loathing between Ivanka and Melania must be thick enough to slice. There was one particular photo of the two of them seated next to each other — can’t remember now whether it was at the GOP Convention or one of the debates or some other event which forced them into proximity — and a fairly intelligent goldfish could have read their body language and known that they cordially detest each other.

  70. 70.

    SixStringFanatic

    December 14, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    Of course he will. Delegitimizing the first black President doesn’t stop when the man leaves office. They’re still shitting on Jimmy Carter 40 years later and he wasn’t even guilty of Presidenting While Black.

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    December 14, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    Gov Jerry, kicking ass on all our behalfs.

    Rallying thousands of scientists at one of the largest international gatherings of its kind, Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. today called on the scientific community – the “truth-tellers” and “truth seekers” – to mobilize for the climate fight.

    “The time has never been more urgent or your work never more important. The climate is changing, temperatures are rising, oceans are becoming more acidified, habitats are under stress – the world is facing tremendous danger,” said Governor Brown at the American Geophysical Union’s annual fall meeting in San Francisco. “It’ll be up to you as truth-tellers, truth seekers to mobilize all your efforts to fight back. We’ve got a lot of firepower. We’ve got the scientists, we’ve got the universities, we have the national labs and we have the political clout and sophistication for the battle – and we will persevere. Have no doubt about that.”

    “We will pursue a path of collaboration and bold political advancement – whatever they do in Washington – and eventually the truth will prevail,” Governor Brown continued. “This is not a battle of one day or one election. This is a long-term slog into the future and you are there, the foot soldiers of change and understanding and scientific collaboration.”

    Governor Brown’s remarks follow yesterday’s action to prevent further coastal oil and gas drilling, reduce ocean acidity and boost renewable energy development in California. In recent weeks,

    Governor Brown issued a joint release with the governors of Oregon and Washington and the premier of British Columbia reaffirming their commitment to climate action at the close of COP22. The Governor also announced 29 new members to the Under2 Coalition, an international climate pact formed by California and Baden-Württemberg, Germany among cities, states and countries to limit the increase in global average temperature to below 2 degrees Celsius, the level of potentially catastrophic consequences. A total of 165 jurisdictions have now joined the coalition representing more than a billion people and $25.7 trillion in combined GDP – more than one-third of the global economy.

    Lurve me some Jerry. DiFi OTOH needs to retire, like yesterday.

  72. 72.

    SixStringFanatic

    December 14, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    @Schlemazel: I have no love whatsoever for the entire Trump klan but we shouldn’t let this shit show make us abandon our own values. Calling Melania Trump an “ex-hooker” is misogynistic and should have no place in our discussions.

  73. 73.

    catclub

    December 14, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Lawmakers: GSA Found Trump Will Breach His Hotel Lease, Absent Divestment

    Govexec.com

  74. 74.

    germy

    December 14, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    I’m actually curious what sort of crowd Arpaio will draw. How many reporters will show up?

  75. 75.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    December 14, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    Arpaio might be doing it to support Trump… part of the “see, he wasn’t wrong about EVERYTHING” normalization.

  76. 76.

    germy

    December 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Trump meets with tech leaders: Apple, Facebook, Google, Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Tesla, Intel

    Attendees included Apple CEO Tim Cook, Jeff Bezos of Amazon and The Washington Post, Larry Page and Eric Schmidt of Alphabet and Google, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, Elon Musk of Tesla and SpaceX, Oracle CEO Safra A. Catz, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, Intel CEO Brian Krzanich, Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins, and IBM CEO Ginni Rometty.

    Trump told them his regime is “going to be here for you. You’ll call my people, you’ll call me. We have no formal chain of command around here.”

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You don’t teach them how to fall?
    And I was more commenting on the fact that my kid is now a beast and while I can (still) physically overpower him when we roughhouse it’s fracking exhausting.

  78. 78.

    Jinchi

    December 14, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Has Trump released his long-form birth certificate yet? Has anyone thought to ask? Apparently it was a job requirement a few years back.

  79. 79.

    Schlemazel

    December 14, 2016 at 5:34 pm

    @SixStringFanatic:
    Sorry but truth is a defense, she was a call girl. I made no value judgement on her former career

    Now, if you wanted to complain about my calling her a gold-digger I might consider pleading no contest to that. That IS a value judgment.

  80. 80.

    Schlemazel

    December 14, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    @Jinchi:
    He did promise his tax returns after he was elected. I think we need to start fund raising some billboards demanding to see them as promised.

  81. 81.

    germy

    December 14, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    Bob Gates and Condi Rice pushed Tillerson, a client of theirs.
    Rex Tillerson’s name didn’t come up until Trump took a meeting with former Defense Secretary Bob Gates. After offering his thoughts on the leading contenders, Gates suggested the ExxonMobil CEO. The day before, Condoleezza Rice had recommended Tillerson to Vice-President-elect Mike Pence. Coincidence? Not at all. Rice and Gates run RiceHadleyGates, a global consulting firm that represents ExxonMobil, and had jointly decided that Tillerson would be a “fresh alternative,” according to the Post.

    Opposition to Tillerson’s Russia ties made Trump like him more.
    Worries about Tillerson’s connection to Russia only made Trump want to pick him more. Or, as a transition official told WSJ, “Trump became even more determined to buck the establishment” when Republicans and Democrats raised concerns about the CEO’s connection with Vladimir Putin.

    nymag

  82. 82.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    I wouldn’t be able to pick Michelle Obama’s mother out of a line up. I knew she lived there because I read it but she (admirably, wisely) knew she wasn’t elected so stayed out of the picture.

    I hate this phony role she plays, where she’s the “nice” Trump, she “softens his edges” You can’t outsource “decent person” to a stand-in. They only do this with “womens’ issues” I’ve noticed, where we get the pretend President.

    “Family leave” isn’t a “womans’ issue” anyway, unless I went to sleep and woke up in 1956. It’s like these girly, inconsequential issues get the B Team. It’s insulting. She’s no more qualified on “womens issues” than she is on anything else. We have lots of talented women who earned that area of expertise- she’s not one of them.

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    December 14, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    @germy:

    I’m not going to get too bent out of shape over people meeting with Trump. Best to know the enemy if you’re going to have to work with him.

  84. 84.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    @rikyrah:
    @Corner Stone:

    i really hope this is just a rumour, soon to be disproved. Heitkamp is very far from being my favorite Senator, but she’s a Democrat from a state with a Republican governor. This would be wrong on so many levels.

    (Anyhow, I still say it’s even money that Trump will pick the CEO of Monsanto or ADM for Ag. Would be much more in keeping with his other cabinet choices.)

  85. 85.

    Corner Stone

    December 14, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    @Kay: I don’t have a vagina, what the hell do I care about “Family Leave”?

  86. 86.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    Ivanka, 35, Trump’s avatar among the moneyed left-wing elite, is now poised to be the first “first daughter” in modern history to play a larger public role than the first lady. And she’s positioning herself exactly as she did that weekend — as a bridge to moderates and liberals disgusted and depressed with the tone and tenor of the new leader of the free world.
    And the ambitious daughter, who once plotted her career around international brand domination, is planning to take on an even heavier lift. Ivanka wants to make climate change — which her father has called a hoax perpetuated by the Chinese — one of her signature issues, a source close to her told Politico. The source said Ivanka is in the early stages of exploring how to use her spotlight to speak out on the issue.

    It’s all bullshit. It’s “tone and tenor”. She has no real power as evidenced by her father’s Cabinet picks.

    I get that the country was bamboozled by these frauds but I’m a grown up and I’m not fooled. Trump is setting up a far Right government. Ivanka’s role is to cover that with “tone and tenor”. They can sell that crap somewhere else. Politico bought it- I’m sure the NYTimes will too.

  87. 87.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    December 14, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    @Botsplainer: This will put the porn back in “Porn Valley”.

  88. 88.

    MuckJagger

    December 14, 2016 at 6:04 pm

    I’ma take a wild stab here and guess that Soulless Joe is going to say Obama’s from Kenya.

  89. 89.

    debbie

    December 14, 2016 at 6:07 pm

    How much have these “investigations” cost AZ taxpayers?

  90. 90.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    It makes me sad. I was reading Twitter when Ivanka’s publicist contacted Politico on December 1st to plant that BS about climate change and liberals were falling for it. Three days later douchebag appointed the anti-environmental EPA head. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree on manipulating and lying. She’s her father’s daughter. They planned the whole fucking charade. We’re not all morons, Ivanka. Not everyone is fooled.

  91. 91.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    December 14, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    I want to see the nominees for court jester.

  92. 92.

    mai naem mobile

    December 14, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: who is going to play the jester? Chris Christie?

  93. 93.

    Mnemosyne

    December 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    @MuckJagger:

    If, like Jerome Corsi, Arpaio conveniently “forgets” that President Obama was named after his father (he’s a “Jr” with the exact same name), I will laugh mordantly.

  94. 94.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    I want to see the nominees for court jester.

    All of them, Katie.

  95. 95.

    Botsplainer

    December 14, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    @Kay:

    One more MSM failure for the books…

  96. 96.

    Kay

    December 14, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    @Botsplainer:

    Hillary Clinton wasn’t providing cover for Bill Clinton’s Right wing views and administration when she was First Lady. She wasn’t talking about health care to cover the fact that her husband had no intention of reforming it.

    I guess George W Bush could have had Laura Bush contact Politico to say she supported children’s health care when Bush was vetoing S-CHIP to help him politically with “moderates” but they weren’t big enough douchebags to be that manipulative and dishonest.

  97. 97.

    TS

    December 14, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    @Kay:

    I didn’t know the President could just swap out family members like that. What a bizarre thing this is, how she and her husband have just decided they have some “role” that they’re free to invent. I’d say they’ll use some discretion and restraint and understand they weren’t actually elected to anything, but I know that’s not true. It’s just the beginning of the overreach we’ll be subjected to by these horrible, graceless, classless people.

    Shows that Trump is capable of insulting anyone – including his current wife.

  98. 98.

    TS

    December 14, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    @germy:

    Trump told them his regime is “going to be here for you. You’ll call my people, you’ll call me. We have no formal chain of command around here.”

    And they believed him?

  99. 99.

    rikyrah

    December 14, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    @Kay:
    Tell it Kay.
    Tell it!

  100. 100.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    December 14, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    <a href="#comment-6157164">Mnemosyne:

    I’m not going to get too bent out of shape over people meeting with Trump. Best to know the enemy if you’re going to have to work with him.

    Plus Trump just goes with what the last person who talk to him said. As they say – conmen are the easist to con.

  101. 101.

    Mnemosyne

    December 14, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    @Kay:

    Well, there was always the thing with Barbara Bush where the press insisted that she was secretly pro-choice, so it was okay for Bush Sr to be publicly “pro-life.”

    There’s a reason IOKIYAR became a handy meme.

  102. 102.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    December 14, 2016 at 7:29 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Touché. And don’t call me Shirley Katie!

  103. 103.

    frosty

    December 14, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    @mai naem mobile: Chris Christie’s got too much of a sense of humor for court jester. Gotta be Joe Piscopo or Dennis Miller … ooh, ooh, Victoria Jackson!

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