From talented garden commentor Marvel:
I’m sending along a photo I used for our 2015 Christmas card — the older I get, the harder it is to remember to assemble SOMETHING from the garden mid-Summer for Christmas & Solstice greetings later in the year.
For this purpose this year I rescued dozens of shucked corn cobs, arranged ’em in a pointy tree shape, adorned with plenty of colorful flowers…sadly, as I look at the photos now, it resembles nothing so much as an assemblage of crisp, clean feminine hygiene products with a garden-clipping wrap. I’ll be digging through old photos tomorrow, u-bet.
Stay warm!
We’ve been a bit snowy & freeze-y hereabouts for several days. Snow’s not as deep as depicted here (circa 2013), but it’s accumulated & hanging around, u-bet.
What’s going on in your gardens — or your year-end-holiday prep — this week?
OzarkHillbilly
Blechchcch…. Christmas. ;-)
raven
Nice jack
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: I used to have a couple of them. Handy for a lot of things, especially jacking up houses. Don’t know what ever happened to them.
rikyrah
Morning Everyone ???
raven
@OzarkHillbilly: Speaking of. A woman bought this building to turn into a pet grooming studio. I have no idea how she is going to afford what they are doing to it based on that business but they have jacked it up and put in a new foundation. It had awful aluminum siding on it and, when they took it off, this is what they found!
JPL
Once again thanks to Marvel for brightening my day.
SNL’s opening was great. Just watch it.
ThresherK (GPad)
Can’t sleep. Up most the night.
Pics look nice but here we wait for rain to.wash away some of yesterday’s snow. Calls for mid-50s so it won’t freeze instantly.
cosima
Our village ‘winter festival’ with santa, reindeer, ice-skating, stalls, etc. will be held on the green this afternoon. It’s about 45F here (approx. 6C) and no sign of winter. Our youngest is beside herself with excitement about the skating. I’m very bah humbug this year.
As for gardens, not sure what’s in the future for our garden other than trying to plant the potted xmas tree that we got this year. I think that we’ll be trying to plant a few things into the ground, move away from some of our containers.
Our lab is being very good about being cooped up following her TPLO surgery. 2 weeks until we can start short lead walks.
raven
@cosima: I don’t know why you would bother with a garden when the world is ending.
OzarkHillbilly
@raven: Nice. You’d be surprised the lengths people will go to and the money they will spend to save a building the foundation is lost to. I have poured foundations under buildings that never had them to begin with. I can’t count the # of times I have said, “The best way to fix this place is with a match.”
Baud
@rikyrah: Morning.
@raven: I’m putting off many, many things in anticipation that Armageddon will make them unnecessary.
satby
@rikyrah: Morning rikyrah.
@raven: that’s cool, hope they save that.
We had snow, then bitter cold, then rain yesterday that turned into sleet and ice, then a small layer of snow over that. I can hardly wait to drive to work roday, it should be harrowing. And South Bend doesn’t seem to salt very many streets, not sure what’s up with that.
bemused
@cosima:
We’ve been through TPLO three times. One dog had both legs done. We had a baby gate to keep dog(s) from using stairs to the basement when they were still restricted from stairs. Inevitably, one will forget to put gate back in place and I almost fainted when one dog took advantage of that and went down into the basement. We have a walkout basement door so I slowly walked her outside that way and back into the house via the temporary ramp we had on entry steps.
Jim Kakalios
It’s Baby Groot in the snow!
Raven
@cosima: Lil Bit had hers done over a year ago and she’s back to her 2 mile walk.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
I think they have to build the third temple on the Dome of the Rock first, so we’re safe for a bit.
Yikes, I need to get to bed soon. I have to be up in 6 hours to see the BJ peeps.
Raven
@OzarkHillbilly: We are in a historic district so tearing down anything is very difficult. I’m just interested to know how many dogs you have to groom to pay for that? They are putting in new framing on the inside as well.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: The third temple will be a Trump Tower.
JPL
@Raven: Dog grooming is becoming a pricey business where I live, but it still surprises me that one could make a living doing that. I assume that the only way is to hire or at least rent space to other groomers.
JPL
@Baud: Wait until you see the Trump library. It will be yuuuge.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I just spent the last hour or so getting this picture of DC to print out right.
Raven
@JPL: I guess, I have really good clippers and I do my girl myself.
Baud
@JPL: So many tweets to print out and bind.
@BillinGlendaleCA: Nice. I’ve never been to the top of the Washington monument. On the bucket list.
JPL
@Raven: That’s what I’m doing. There’s Amazon for that!
JPL
@Baud: Don’t forget about the collection of Bibles, and there will be a room dedicated to Magazine covers. That room will be titled the good, the bad and the ugly.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I’ve been twice, 1970 and 1991.
OzarkHillbilly
@Raven:
Yeah, there’s a lot of that and for good reason too. But there is a point where it is absolute idiocy to go any further. I will look at people and in my mind it’s “Why didn’t you call me before you bought this shithole???” and of course by that point they are already so emotionally invested in the place it’s moot.
That’s when I ask with a smile and a laugh, “Got a match?”
Baud
@JPL: There’ll be a room for unread PDBs.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud:
Raven
@OzarkHillbilly: It’s a constant battle here with some builders just ignoring the rules. One dude just built the addition 4 ft higher and dared them to make him change it. They did. I personally don’t see anything wrong with it, especially since there is a ton of infill housing going on. There were plenty of really shitty house built in the 60’s and I’m glad it’s been halted.
OzarkHillbilly
@Raven: Labs are self grooming. :-)
@Baud: But not this year, still closed. Forget till when.
BillinGlendaleCA
@OzarkHillbilly: They’re installing the “Trump” sign in GOLD at the top.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Internet says Spring 2019.
OzarkHillbilly
@Raven:
Some of the rules can be really nitpicky (like window types and sash sizes and the glass proportions and that muntins and mullions have historically accurate milling etc etc) but if you don’t want to play by the rules you just vote Trump…. or something like that. I look at it as it’s the same as building codes, just part of the business.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Too long. I really want to go to DC, mostly for the Smithsonian, I could spend a month exploring the various Smithsonian museums, but spending a day walking the mall would be nice. I think I’ll skip the White House if I go in the next 4-8 years tho.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Hopefully, you only have to avoid it for four years.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: If I was a gambling man, that’s the way I’d bet.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Well, five years, if you count the time needed to disinfect the place.
Botsplainer
You all have it wrong. The Trump Library will be quite dispersed, and will consist of Make America Great Again caps stuffed in drawers and closets of the dead in the ruins of the country, as any survivors will have burned theirs out of fear that other survivors find out.
Schlemazel
@raven:
There is a old store in Northeast Minneapolis (that is a very distinct place) that had an Orange Crush billboard painted on the side. For years it was home to “Orange Advertising”. A few years back it was turned into housing, I think, since there is no signage now & curtains in the big windows. SOmeone tried to repaint the very old ad on the side . . . remember a few years ago when that woman tried to restore the religious icon? Yeah, someone with that level of skill.
Makes me sad every time I drive by now
Also, I worked with a guy that wanted to open a restaurant. He maid about every mistake you can including buying an abandoned chain steak house. First thing he had to do was pump concrete under the slab because it was sinking into a swamp. Then he had to repair all the plumbing which broke when it sank, He had 60 grand sunk into repairs before he could open. He went broke.
OzarkHillbilly
My house looks like it’s been attacked by clowns. I’m always putting things off, like tidying up. I’m a terrible procrastinator. My wife’s the same. She’s kind of turned the place into Disneyland. She has balloons and characters everywhere and is building a toy guesthouse outside. -Dick Van Dyke
Schlemazel
@satby:
Can’t be wasting tax money on things like snow/ice removal! One of the ‘great’ ideas of the Pawlenty administration was to not plow highways while the snow is falling but wait for it to stop. Previously the highways would be in pretty good shape during a snowfall. Now there are dozens and dozens of accidents and really difficult travel every time it snows. Sure car insurance rates have jumped and people are losing many hours commuting but by gum we ain’t suffering from tax theft no more.
Schlemazel
@Baud:
We went in the halcyon, pre-9/11, days & walked the stairs. There are stones from different states on the inside so it was an interesting hike but I wouldn’t say it was a must do, take the elevator!
MomSense
Anyone here have experience with Alpine Yurts? Wondering how strong and warm they really are.
debbie
@JPL:
It was good. No Tweets yet, though.
Aleta
@OzarkHillbilly: My cousin’s best ladders and part of his scaffolding are all over town up against the houses of the other cousins.
Just One More Canuck
@satby: we had the same up here in the Great White North – 10 cm of snow (4 inches for you Luddites), then rain, then freezing rain, and then me having to drive for half an hour to take my daughter to soccer practice
At least our streets get salted, but we’re a socialist hellhole
Aleta
@raven: Ad revenue ! (Would be nice but.)
OzarkHillbilly
@Aleta: Yeah, loaning stuff is sure way to lose it. May well be what happened to my jacks. Then again, I may have given them away during my “minimalist” years. I gave away a lot of stuff I wasn’t using very much then.
Juice Box
For Schrodinger’s Cat.
JPL
@debbie: I wonder who took the phone away. They must of realized that the China tweet didn’t work as planned.
cosima
@raven: I’m hoping that the nuclear war will miss the Highlands. There aren’t many of us here. Easy to overlook. Although could be a specific target, given the lack of regard for Combover Caligula in these parts.
@bemused: I sincerely hope that we will never have to go through this again. We had high hopes that conservative management would have allowed her to have a good outcome, but we were on a never-ending good/bad cycle, a couple months of good walks/runs/swims, then something invisible would cause her to limp & be confined for a month, so we decided to get it done over the winter so that she’ll be back up to speed by the time spring/summer rolls around. For the next 6 months it’ll be about keeping her wrapped in cotton wool, because once you go down the TPLO road (as you know) there isn’t a further repair option if it goes wrong.
@Raven: Crossing fingers we’re back to our regular walks (always amazing) by June. Our oldest should be here (from VT) by then, and she’s got big plans to hit some new trails. With Lola. This year when she visited Lola was on restricted exercise for nearly the entire time, and it seriously harshed her mellow. She’d love to have a dog, but life is still a bit too unsettled for her & her bf to have one (uni, law school, moving, etc), so Lola is her dog when she’s home with us.
OzarkHillbilly
My new hens started laying in the past week. Sure is nice to be eating my own eggs again.
jeffreyw
Good morning!
rikyrah
@satby:
Be safe
debit
@jeffreyw: Oh man. I was not hungry until I clicked that link. Now I have to go rummage in the fridge. Dear FSM, please let there be eggs in there.
OzarkHillbilly
@jeffreyw: Yum! What all you got in that mess?
jeffreyw
@OzarkHillbilly: Homemade pastrami hash with onions, fried in duck fat, and over easy eggs.
Larkspur
@JPL: I don’t know about the financial details, but one of the most popular grooming places in my well-to-do community is run by identical twin sisters. They employ a few workers for cleanup and, I think, bathing help. But they work really hard and are just so cheerful. I’ve dropped people’s dogs off there. There’s nothing fancy about it. They’re good, efficient, and not cheap. Catchy name for the place, too: Doggy Styles.
Alain the site fixer
@jeffreyw: I’ve been meaning to ask you, how you can have such yummy food all the time. I know you partner with Tamara so are you catering and making yourself stuff with leftovers, etc., or what? Hungry minds must know!
ETA I think you’re near STL and she’s in Colorado so partner authors and website from my understanding.
OzarkHillbilly
@jeffreyw: And fresh chives?
jeffreyw
Gabe sends his regards. He’s a goodboyyesheis.
jeffreyw
@OzarkHillbilly: Most of the chives are under the eggs, presentation fail. Remarkably, my chives have survived so far, scathed but alive.
Larkspur
@jeffreyw: Oh, Gabe! Give him a tummy rub from me. So cute.
jeffreyw
@Larkspur: Done!
jeffreyw
@Alain the site fixer: It’s a hobby of mine, taking pictures of food I’ve made. I make an effort to present it well, although not so far as obtaining photo studio quality equipment. I eat most of what is pictured right away. I’ve been using my S6 Samsung phone lately instead of the Nikons I was using previously because it takes good enough photos for food blogs.
OzarkHillbilly
@jeffreyw: My parsley was still looking really good but I think the 9 degrees, freezing rain, and dusting of snow we got last night probably finished them off, if the chickens hadn’t gotten to them first.
Elizabelle
Good morning.
And: apologies are for breakfast, from the LA Times. For publishing those ridiculous reader letters supporting Manzanar Japanese internment. Elicited a thread here last week.
The Times regrets publishing letters about the Japanese American internment that weren’t ‘civil, fact-based discourse’
Well done, smarter LA Times readers. Some of their letters follow the apology.
Take note, fucking NY Times. You have an administration’s length of apologizing to do.
frosty
@Baud:
Last time I was there was on a high school trip. Half a dozen of us on the X-Country team ran up the stairs instead of taking the elevator. I’d get winded pushing the elevator button now!
Aleta
@OzarkHillbilly: He doesn’t actually loan them. When he needs his ladder and it’s gone, he just drives around to different houses until he finds it. I tell him, make them ask first. He says, ‘when I need them to help me they always come.’ Of all us cousins, he’s everybody’s favorite. He’s the one who’s always there to help.
Iowa Old Lady
14 below when we went out this morning.
I have a guest post on Unleashing Readers today, talking about some of the trickier parts of having characters invoke the gods in a secondary world fantasy.
OzarkHillbilly
Inside Quebec’s Great, Multi-Million-Dollar Maple-Syrup Heist:
A fun read.
Baud
@Alain the site fixer: The mobile site has been going offline a lot lately. What’s up?
bemused
@cosima:
Our dog which had both legs done had a great outcome with one leg but not so much the other leg. We’re not sure why. She favors that leg and has some stiffness if she has had a lot more activity than usual. She gets glucosamine and fish oil and sure can run when she wants to. We’ve been a two dog family so when her older partner passed away we got a puppy, another pal, which really helps keep her active.
Schlemazel
Just read that TNC is going to be on Deface the Nation this morning to discuss BHO and race in America. I want to watch that but also am horrified that it might end up with the vapid bullshit that has come to represent the political chat shows in America.
tobie
A propos of gardens and veggie patches, have any BJers given thought to what kinds of tomatoes they’ll be growing next summer? I just got my catalogs from FEDCO seeds and SEED SAVER, so this is much on my mind. I’ve had good luck with Pruden’s Purple, an aromatic beefsteak tomato that’s just as sweet as the Brandywine in my view. I didn’t like the Cherokee Purple, which had too much of a mineral favor in my view, and was happy but not ecstatic about the Ukrainian Weissnicht.
Any tips on tomato varieties or any other veggies would be appreciated. Also, do you have a favorite seed company? I really like the whole ethos of Fedco but last year my Seed Saver plants did better.
OzarkHillbilly
@Aleta:
I try to do the same.
Corner Stone
@MomSense:
Painful as all hell. But if you put the cream on twice a day they eventually get better.
Alain the site fixer
@Baud: looks like I need to renew license. Then I can see if something else is going on.
Corner Stone
@jeffreyw: I keep expecting you to have a ponytail.
Corner Stone
@jeffreyw: I keep making serious plans to make a pastrami but each time I remind myself it will just be me eating it and it’s a hell of a lot of time and effort to throw out pounds of meat after I’ve had enough.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Schlemazel: ust read that TNC is going to be on Deface the Nation this morning to discuss BHO and race in America. I want to watch that but also am horrified that it might end up with the vapid bullshit that has come to represent the political chat shows in America.
I”ve never seen him as a TV host, but from what I’ve read of Dickerson’s stuff over the years he’s not too bad. I wonder if it will be a one on one discussion or if they’ll bring on some dead-eyed Randian or wild-eyed Bible thumper to give the “Conservative” African American point of view. And will the segment will be three minutes long, because we have to get to Ruth Marcus and Chris Ciliza, who have important things to say about the optics of Trump’s lobby and the white working class
Alain the site fixer
Now have to wait then I can see what’s going on. Wasn’t planning on this today so if I can’t fix it immediately, hopefully shutting off then back on the mobile site will shake loose the gremlins, even temporarily.
jeffreyw
@Corner Stone: Slice it and vac seal, freezes well. I have to bake a new loaf of rye every time I thaw a batch, though.
My pony tail is more of a Manx tail at the moment. I’m hoping to live long enough to see it to a respectable length.
Alain the site fixer
@jeffreyw: you really should consider a small coffee table book. Your photos are always drool-inspiring! I often feel like there’s a story behind each dish, so they also tickle the mind a bit.
debbie
@Elizabelle:
Hamm should have waited until receiving those subsequent balanced letters and then published them all together.
OzarkHillbilly
@tobie: Baker Creek is my go to source. Huh, lost the linky button. web addy is www dot rareseeds dot com.
Jeffro
@JPL: This needs to head a new open thread. My sides still hurt.
Larkspur
@Alain the site fixer: You are a nice person. I like you. (Pretend I added something else to this comment, something smart and timely and well-reasoned. Kthx.)
Aleta
@OzarkHillbilly: In my imaginary picture you remind me of him.
tobie
@OzarkHillbilly: Thanks! Will check them out.
jeffreyw
@Alain the site fixer: I’m way too lazy for that to happen, but thanks for the sentiment. I had a fan on one of the sub Reddits that wanted me to do the same sort of thing. I told him the photos were all public domain and to have at it!
gene108
@JPL:
I think the Cold Open makes Trump seem like an innocent buffoon. He is not. He damn well knows what he is doing.
He’s getting the public-face of Regan treatment as seen in this classic SNL skit
Schlemazel
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I decided to DVR the show & skip bits like Hank Kissinger’s segment, I can also zip out if they turn the segment into a shitshow. It sure would be nice to have an adult conversation about current events
debbie
@JPL:
You know, not even this is a just enough fate for Kellyanne: “I’m handcuffed to you for the rest of history.”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m tempted to seek that part out on line just so I can maybe get some vague idea why, other than the improbable fact of his continued breathing, we’re supposed to give one half-assed fruit fly’s fuck what the old goon has to say.
/edited
albertZ
I never watch CNN but go to their website on occasion to see if there is any “trending news” (airplane crashes, active shooter, Kardashian sighting, etc.) Couldn’t help click on the headline “McCain’s Ominous Warning” regarding the hacks. Spoiler alert: It’s Obama’s fault!
satby
@OzarkHillbilly: Dick Van Dyke is my soul mate evidently.
And I have an unscheduled day off because my car is stuck sideways in my ice rink of a driveway, and it’s not moving no matter how much I shovel. Since the alley looks to be almost as impassable, and I’m not shoveling all the way to the ice covered street, I just called in. I gave it a decent shot, but I know my limits.
satby
@Schlemazel: That seems to be the way they’re doing it here.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Don’t bother. He spent most of the time fellating Putin.
Iowa Old Lady
@debbie: She knew what he was and put him in office anyway. There’s no hell hot enough.
Yarrow
@MomSense:
I don’t have personal experience but i worked with a couple who lived in one for over a year including two winters in Maine. When I expressed horror at how cold it must be they said it was plenty warm and they were fine. Of course they were in their 20’s, so keep that in mind.
Corner Stone
It’s a good thing for Jill Abramson that she works in the print medium of news. Because she is awful on camera.
satby
@Corner Stone: Ok, I LOL’d
Edited to add: wait, you can make pastrami? YOU’RE my new soul mate!
Corner Stone
@Iowa Old Lady: KAC hated Clinton more than she loved anything else. Except for maybe the love of grinding HRC down to close out her political career.
Yarrow
@JPL: Last night’s SNL “Love, Actually” inspired video is a must-watch. Link. That that, “Love, Actually” haters!
opiejeanne
@tobie: I live just outside Seattle and our best tomato every year is one with the silly name of Super Fantastic.
This year the tomatoes were a bust. They didn’t ripen despite nice warm weather all summer. We got very few.
I like Johnny’s Seeds really well, and Burpee’s is good too. We don’t start our tomatoes from seed here even though we have a greenhouse. We buy large plants from a local nursery.
Kathleen
@satby: Wise decision. Glad you will be able to stay safe and warm!
Schlemazel
@Yarrow:
My baby girl & her husband are living in a travel trailer outside Vail, CO. Their landlord wanted to raise the rent on their 1 bdrm from $1400 to $2500 a month so they bought a used travel trailer & moved into an RV park for the winter. Even with payments on the trailer they are way ahead. Because the trailer has solar panels that provide all the electricity they need (won’t run the AC but up there, who cares?) and they love to be in the woods when summer arrives they will move up into the hills.
They added some insulation to the walls because it does get cold but being in their 20s they are doing very well so far. She even maintains a blog about their experiences.
Yarrow
@gene108:
Yeah, I think they’re going too much in that direction. But they’re also getting the issue that he seems to believe the last person he talked to and that he’s vulnerable to flattery and just wants to be liked. Being owned by Putin was also made fairly explicit. So it was good, but not quite cutting enough.
I don’t like the portrayal of Kellyanne Conway as being the long-suffering mom to him being a toddler. I think she has plenty of agency and she’s chosen to be this craven. The writers need to sharpen up that aspect of who she is.
Schlemazel
@Yarrow:
I have never seen “Love Actually” so I can only guess at the way this worked there. Still a funny bit
debbie
@Yarrow:
Nice! I turned off the TV by then. I never make it through to the end.
tobie
@opiejeanne: I’m thinking of going with some hybrids this year. Heirlooms are great but with such inconsistent weather patterns they’re really fussy. Will look into Super Fantastic.
MomSense
@ThresherK (GPad):
Try Delta Waves. It’s a free iTunes app and I think available on google play. It is the only thing that has helped me get any sleep the last month. I was a skeptic until I tried it.
Glidwrith
@Yarrow: I thought it helped point out his clueless idiocy, though I do think for Russia he knows damned well what he is doing and the treasonous bastard just doesn’t give a damn.
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Yarrow: I think Trump would rather be portrayed as Putin’s knowing ally than his clueless if fortunate beneficiary (which I happen to believe is the case), so in terms of getting under trump’s skin, I think this works. I haven’t seen any reaction from the Orange Thumbs, so I can only assume that he and Kushner are wrestling around a floor somewhere in Mar-A-Lago, while Ivanka whimpers, “Daddy, please! Give Jared the phone and we’ll sit down and plan another rally!”
as for Conway, I agree she’s being portrayed as better than she is, but I’d be surprised if she has 25% name recognition outside of political obsessives like us, so I’ll just take cheap pleasure in the cheap jokes about her hair and pallor.
Also, Leslie Jones pining for Biden was pretty funny too
cosima
@bemused: We’re crossing fingers, and, as I said, babying it for as long as we need to. We talked to a lot of people before deciding on a surgeon, and I have to say that I’m encouraged so far.
I read a lot of stuff on the internet about TPLO recovery and was very worried about being up to the challenge of it, but Lola has been completely mobile from day one, which I consider to be signs of having a great surgeon and a promising outcome (provided we follow directions for rehab). I have some xrays of her leg post-surgery, and that is an amazing amount of hardware in there.
I’m choosing to remain optimistic, and looking forward to being able to take her out in a couple of weeks. I’m also hoping that since she’ll be lead-only walks for 5 months that she’ll be a great walker by the end of that. Because she’s been on an active/inactive rollercoaster nearly her entire (short-ish) life, we’ve not been able to be consistent about walk training, and this will be my opportunity.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: Leaderly, virile real leadership?
the Ghost of Nixon watched, too
MomSense
@Yarrow:
Thanks. I follow a young couple who are homesteaders in Idaho and they seem to be living well in their yurt. They just had their second child. It was a yurt birth!
I’m looking at land in Way the Fuck Up North, Maine and let’s just say the houses are awful. Colorado Yurts sell alpine Yurts that I think will end up being about $10,000 with all the cold weather upgrades. I have a wood stove but would need a chimney system.
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It was muttered so difficult to distinguish, but something about “an er3ction that seems to last for days”.
Corner Stone
@MomSense: A friend had a yurt in his yard that he used as a MMA dojo but that’s here in TX so not comparable. More of the storage type variety, very bare bones and not the kind with spatial options/configurations.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: “Did you know that powver is ze ultimate aphrodisiac darlingge?”
“Sure is, Sweetie. You left the five grand on the dresser, right?
Schlemazel
@Corner Stone:
When I looked the full winter options only came with the 2 largest models, they start at 10k and the winter options were an additional 5 grand. They start pushing to $20,000. Still an inexpensive option but not inexpensive.
MomSense
@Schlemazel:
I saw some at Colorado Yurts that started at about 6,000 and then the add ons bring it up to about 10,000
Schlemazel
@MomSense:
I dug out my price list & while you can get them that cheaply the list I have shows that the “Winter Stout Alpine Yurt” is only available on the 27′ and 30′ models. Since they were interested in living in the Colorado Alpines that seemed like the best choice to me. Add in some other options and it gets close to $20k
EDIT: here is the online price list
http://www.coloradoyurt.com/wp-content/uploads/2015-Yurt-Price-List.pdf
frosty
@tobie: I’ve tried heirloom tomatoes but haven’t had any luck with them. Seems like some bug gets them before I can pick. I’ve been using Landreth (seed supplier to George Washington) because they were local in South PA.
Schlemazel
@Schlemazel:
I just used their online calculator & chose the smallest model (200 sq’), added all the insulation possible, the stovepipe opening & better roof and it did come to about $10,000. But note that means plastic windows, they offer “warmer” windows with no explanation what that is but actual glass is a 3k upgrade and it comes to $13,000. The kids got more than twice the room for half the price and solar electric thrown in.
then, remember you still have to build some sort of platform under the thing because you are not going to want to live on the ground
MomSense
@Schlemazel:
Thank you! Still cheaper than fixing up one of the quasi abandoned houses up there.
Schlemazel
@MomSense:
True that is why I said they were inexpensive as an option but not inexpensive. The kids got 14 inches of snow in a little under 12 hours Saturday so I would not want to experiment with the upgraded small model because a collapsed yurt is not going to be much good.
satby
@tobie: I love Hillbilly Potato Leaf and German yellow, both heirloom varieties of Brandywines, I think. But they can be fussy if they don’t get enough sun.
Corner Stone
If nothing else comes from this gods damned election, I hope for once and all time, any future Democratic administration will learn THE FUCKING LESSON TO NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER PUT AN R INTO ANY CABINET POSITION.
Fuck you, Bob Gates.
Fuck James Comey. Fuck him up his stupid ass.
Jay Noble
Best Joe Pesci voice “Youse need to put dem Yutes in Yurts.”
opiejeanne
@tobie: If you can guess what kind of weather you’ll have where we are, you can grow some heirlooms, but it requires a crystal ball and a lot of luck. We’ve had some luck with the heirloom called Brandywine, but only twice in six years here. This was a really bad year, even the cherry tomatoes were pretty much a bust.
One tomato you probably should avoid is one called “Boxcar Willie”, because various plants are marketed under this name and there’s no telling what you’ll get.