Breaking: declassified review of #Russian election-related hacking to be released as soon as this afternoon – source tells #CNN
— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 6, 2017
This situation is now increasingly fluid. For whatever reasons, either the Administration, the DNI, or both in consultation with each other have decided to not wait until Monday afternoon at 2 PM to release the unclassified/declassified report on Russian interference in the 2016 US elections.
Hildebrand
All of the above are likely tired of the anthropomorphic cheeto shitting on them – and so, voila, something to talk about all weekend.
Feebog
My guess is the Shitgibbon got his briefing, completely rejected the findings of the IC, and went off on them. Rather than give him an entire weekend to tweet lies about the briefing (classified, smashifed) they decided to release it now. And I will bet 10 bucks right now, this was the plan beforehand if he did not accept the findings.
ET
They have to get this out and public now unless they want President Trump (God I can’t believe I typed that) buries it and continues do to what he can to make them look bad and marginalize them because he doesn’t like their conclusions. He can deny it all he wants and his spokespeople can spin, and spin, and spin but it will be out and they and there isn’t a damn thing they can do.
SiubhanDuinne
Now I wonder how much coverage it will even get in light of another breaking story — shooting at Fort Lauderdale airport (reports say that 9 people were shot, 1 has died, shooter is in custody). CNN and MSNBC are talking of nothing else.
clay
I guess someone decided that giving TrumpCo. all weekend to dissemble and outright lie wasn’t a good idea. (Not that they’ll do any differently regardless.) And this’ll give the Sunday shows plenty to talk about…
MisterForkbeard
@Feebog: This sounds pretty reasonable to me. Essentially damage control by our intelligence agencies to keep Russian influence to a minimum.
Doug R
See, somebody reads this top 10,000 blog.
Major Major Major Major
@Feebog:
IANA member of the intel community but this seems likely to me.
LAC
So the current administration is sooooooo not disappointing people? Who would have thunk it?
kindness
Republicans have wanted to try out that impeachment thingy since the 90’s. Now they will get to…Oh…..Wait…..Oh shit.
RSR
Charles Pierce on twitter earlier today:
RSR
@SiubhanDuinne: False Flag!
SiubhanDuinne
@Feebog:
I would not take that bet, because I’m quite sure you’re correct!
Yarrow
Has Trump’s briefing concluded yet? Does he even know they’ve moved up the release of info?
Mike in DC
Well, now I know what I’ll be reading this weekend. Thanks, spooks!
geg6
Ooooowie, this is exciting. Fridays really have become the most interesting day of the week.
Shell
But didn’t ya hear…the Russians weren’t celebrating Trumps win, they were just congratulating him. See, its all semantics!
JordanRules
I think they knew, even when they announced that formal Monday release date, that they’d release it earlier. Maybe keeping things normal and formal so the orange mob would think they had this advantage that they’d used in other scenarios.
Still don’t think the report will jolt anything beneficial from the media and GOP traitors.
JPL
@Feebog: Why would you be so disrespectful of the President-elect. tsk
Enhanced Voting Techniques
This has to be a first – pick a fight with a major goverment agency before taking office. Then again a real pol would know better than to have their midnight rants published without review.
PaulW
@Feebog:
Did he even show? I thought I saw early tweets that said he didn’t.
PaulW
In the meantime I think Arnold’s tweet replies over Shitgibbon’s meltdown over Apprentice ratings were congenially apt and shaming towards the Ferret-haired tiny-fingered Cheeto.
LAO
Trump’s twitter feed is going to be hilarious today. If you find the end of the world as we know it, funny.
Cacti
Which “progressive” will be the first to defend Putin’s honor? Taibbi or Greenwald?
JordanRules
@Mike in DC:
Ha! Hearing, Thanks spooks is oddly funny. If we survive, the movies are going to be delicious. If we survive.
JMG
As a real self-made man, I’m pretty sure Arnold holds fake self-made man Trump in some contempt as a fraud.
Roger Moore
Most likely to deny Trump a chance to spread his lies about the report before the rest of us can see it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Cacti: Greenie, I’d put 5,000 internet bucks on it
SatanicPanic
@Cacti: Tulsi Gabbard?
EDIT- I know one IRL Sanders supporter who hasn’t, so far, defended him on his own merits, but because he’s a counterpoint to American power. Sometimes I don’t get leftists.
Felonius Monk
So the Gelatinous Orange Pig Bladder and his retinue of Bladderettes are once more demonstrating their lack of intelligence and decorum, what else is new? I sure hope that the IC briefers spelled out “pussy-boi” for him.
Maybe a new hashtag? #RealDonaldPussy-Boi
bemused
If Trump can actually feel fear, I’m wondering why he looks more afraid of Putin than the big dogs running all our intelligence agencies.
hovercraft
Nancy Pelosi: Intel Report On Russian Hacking Is ‘Stunning’
WASHINGTON ― House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Friday that a forthcoming intelligence report on Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election provided a “stunning disclosure.”
Pelosi wouldn’t tell reporters outright whether she thought the hacking had affected election results. Instead, she said excerpts of the report would be released later in the day and pushed the press to connect the dots.
“I would say this: Regardless of the outcome of the election, the American people have the right to know what a foreign power did to disrupt our election,” she said after the intelligence community briefed House and Senate leaders on its findings.
Pressed further, Pelosi said she had no doubt ― even before the intelligence officials made their determination ― that Russia was involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee.
“There is no question that … the Russians disrupted and then they released the information to a source,” Pelosi said, referring to WikiLeaks. “And this is the path which would then on a partisan basis only release Democratic emails.”
Pelosi scolded the press for being “accomplices” in Russia’s meddling.
“Because every single day you reported that there was an email that was embarrassing to the Clinton administration without saying we know this because of disruption by a foreign power into our electoral system, you knew that, you knew it was the Russians,” she said.
“Did it affect the Clinton campaign? Of course it did, of course it did,” she added. “Would it have come out differently? I don’t know, because there are many factors in an election.”
The top intel officials who briefed congressional leadership are scheduled to brief President-elect Donald Trump on Friday.
Adam L Silverman
@Feebog: The briefing is happening now. It started at 12:30 PM today.
Major Major Major Major
@Shell: Bullshit. I saw thousands of Russians celebrating as the election results came in across the strait from Alaska.
amk
@Cacti: Why only those two? There is plenty of loony left to go around.
coin operated
Won’t matter one bit. My breitbarf following friends were posting this morning, long before the announcement, that this is a false flag operation to discredit the Orange Shitgibbon.
I hope someone in the Trump administration is paying attention. The IC community is not going to go quietly.
Adam L Silverman
@PaulW: The briefing started at 12:30 PM. He was tweeting around 3 hours before it started.
hovercraft
@Feebog:
He apparently made it to the briefing.
n 6, 1:20 PM EST
Trump briefing under way on classified Russia hacking report
By JULIE PACE and DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — A briefing from the nation’s top intelligence officials to President-elect Donald Trump was underway Friday, a meeting in which the officials planned to make their most detailed and persuasive case yet that Russia’s government interfered in the November election.
Pogonip
@Doug R: I still read half of it; does that put me in the top 20,000?
Timurid
@Yarrow:
He’s probably stormed out already…
amk
@coin operated: the lil fingered vulgarian is already whining that it’s a ‘witch hunt’. even before the briefing, apparently. what a ‘tough guy’.
hovercraft
@Cacti:
Hasn’t GG already done so?
low-tech cyclist
@Feebog:
Yeppers to all of the above.
Pogonip
@Major Major Major Major: You can see Russia from your house??
raven
never mind
tpherald
Check WikiLeaks and WL Task Force on Twitter today … They are FREAKING out. Assange, GG & Trump’s con on Russian interference is coming undone.
Spanky
@bemused: Because he hasn’t seen any pictures of the Big Boys riding a bear, like the pic of Vlad he’s got pinned up above his bedstand.
Major Major Major Major
@Doug R: 22,799th website in the country!
coin operated
@amk: Yup…that was one of the links shared by the breitbarf crowd too.
Feebog
@Adam L Silverman:
I assume that is EST (I’m on the left coast). If that is the case, the IC either got a heads up (paging Mr. Woolsey on the white courtesy telephone) or they simply head faked team Shitgibbon. Either way it is a good move, get it out now, don’t let Cheeto Benito have 72 hours to spin it the way he wants to.
tpherald
Has anyone else noticed that WL’s Twitter feed reads like a Trump alt-right fanboy web site ??
Pogonip
@Major Major Major Major: And climbing.
Cacti
News you can’t make up:
Wikileaks whines that Obama Administration illegally leaked evidence of their Russian collusion to NBC.
Also whine that Trump didn’t get to see it first.
Link
Anyone still care to argue that Assange isn’t in cahoots with right wing reactionaries?
? Martin
I think this is an example of what Schumer said with “Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you”
If Trump is going to publicly call them incompetent and threaten the agencies with downsizing, then fuck yeah they’re going to get very aggressive at releasing information that embarrasses him, even if that means diminishing a bit of their capability, since doing nothing will result in that anyway per Trumps threat. They have nothing to lose here.
LAC
@Mike in DC: printing it out and use it to slap some people with. ??
FlipYrWhig
@tpherald: In the way one orange is “like” another orange.
? Martin
@Major Major Major Major: Well played.
[slow claps]
Spanky
Correlation, causation, yadda yadda, but the Dow sure picked a weird time to bang up against 20,000.
Yarrow
@tpherald: Yep. Sample:
Cacti
@tpherald:
They’re making impotent threats to sue Twitter users for libel and slander.
LoLwut?
Who’s going to show up in court as the aggrieved Plaintiff? Julian?
MazeDancer
@geg6:
Election certainly changed the meaning of “Friday Night News Dump”.
Think social media and online speed has affected that. People actually have more time to read Twitter, FB, etc, on Friday night, and continuing over the weekend. And more time to Tweet. Reporters get forced to use their “weekends” to comment on developing stories. And the events lead up to the Sunday Shows, which, in turn, set the stories for the start of the week.
All why, it was, indeed, likely to be a plan to release the report today depending on Trump’s response. And if he keeps going with “no proof” so that IC forced to burn assets for Putin’s benefit, may the IC feel free to pursue the full truth about Trump at all costs. And if keeps saying “political witch hunt”, well, then, there is, clearly some truth to be found.
Kay
@Cacti:
Libertarian leaners always end up the Right. Always. Left + libertarian is a unicorn that’s hugely attractive but is never actually observed in the wild :)
Roger Moore
@SatanicPanic:
I think there actually are a few “blame America first” leftists who give everybody else left of center a bad name.
Davis X. Machina
@SatanicPanic: It’s not just leftists.
The enemy of my enemy is bi- or non-partisan.
Besides, it’s a tradition. Cf. Social fascists.
Mnemosyne
@Yarrow:
Nothing like doxxing threats to make your organization look professional and impartial.
/eye roll
amk
so, when are the msm mofos gonna start the ‘is this the
obama’strump’s katrina moment’ meme?Cacti
@Kay:
It’s been hiding in plain sight for a while now.
When Assange tried to create his Wikileaks Party in Australia’s 2013 election, his partners were the explicitly racist Australia First Party.
tpherald
@Yarrow: Make sure to report them to Twitter for Dox’ing violation
Cacti
@Yarrow:
Yep.
The mask has dropped from Wikileaks. They’ve been found out and now their true, fascist colors are shining through.
Kay
@Cacti:
Creepy, too:
I don’t know- is this some kind of vague threat?
Major Major Major Major
@Davis X. Machina: Interesting, thanks for the link.
@Roger Moore: More than a few.
coin operated
@Kay:
I think I’m in love…with the quote. I was talking about the quote!!!
Yarrow
@Mnemosyne: Yep. They claim it’s just “proximity graphs.” Uh huh.
Spanky
@Kay:
Not at all. It’s a threat, but there’s nothing vague about it.
Adam L Silverman
@Feebog: Yep EST.
hovercraft
OT
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: They are preparing a doxxing campaign. If twitter allows this they will have lost all control of their platform.
Major Major Major Major
@Spanky: I don’t get it, what are they threatening to do exactly? Isn’t the point of a verified account that it is known who you are?
cmorenc
@SiubhanDuinne:
Had the plane gone missing, CNN might talk of little else until June.
SatanicPanic
@Davis X. Machina: well there you go. leftism has sometimes been weird for a long time.
FlipYrWhig
@SatanicPanic: There’s leftism per se and then there’s “I have better ideas than you-ism,” which is what most self-described Internet leftists _actually_ believe in.
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
Adam, looks like Obama read your comments from the other evening and decided to not let Trump have a weekend to spin the report before original Monday release.
Cacti
@Kay:
Not vague at all.
They’re threatening to Dox their Twitter critics.
Vlad taught them well.
Spanky
@Major Major Major Major:
And nobody is saying that what they dox would be accurate. Suppose they doxxed Kay and “discovered” an affair?
raven
@cmorenc: It’s pretty nuts, they thought it was over, they got a shooter, but now something else is going down.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Cacti:
I am curious why everyone even allows this Swedish pedophile the right to comment on internal American politics. Even without the damn Russian nonsense Sweds are green with envy that Boeing and Lockheed and can out sell SAAB in the death merchants business and would love to trip that up.
Since when have real American given two hoots what a foreigner thought of us?
trollhattan
@JMG:
God yes. Enduring Ahnold’s gropenatorship it was notable he quickly separated himself from the Republican wingnut component and would not champion any of their hobby horses. I’m certain his contempt for The Donald is deep and all-encompassing.
Citizen_X
I have an ugly feeling that this is going to end in bloodshed.
So: how many divisions do the spies have? And how many divisions does Trump have; i.e. how much military support would he have if push came to shove (say, if he ordered the arrest of CIA people)? Is there a cadre of (senior?) officers who would be loyal to him, as opposed to being loyal to the republic? Talk me down, Adam!
raven
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: CIA needs to, you know. . .
Major Major Major Major
@Spanky: So it really has nothing to do with Twitter at all then. Gotcha.
raven
Motherfuckers running all over the tarmac!
MuckJagger
@Kay: I’ve known a few Libertarian folks, but I’ve never known one that didn’t vote Republican. They may claim to be against Republicanism when it comes to civil rights, but they *always* vote with them.
cmorenc
@? Martin:
Trump is even farther in over his head when he deals with Putin and the Chinese government as POTUS than he is trying to repeatedly trash his own intel agencies. He’s assuming that the deal-making landscape will be similar to bulldozing his way through leveraged real-estate transactions and hardball-chiseling his construction contractors. He would be in for a very rude awakening if he was indeed capable of even being aware how badly he was being bitch-slapped around by these major powers – until eventually his own congressional party is forced to throw him under the bus to save their own skins.
Major Major Major Major
@MuckJagger: I know a couple Johnson voters, including one non-gender-binary individual who loathes ‘political correctness’ but insists on certain pronouns for themselves, which is basically libertarianism in a nutshell.
geg6
@Kay:
I’d say it’s a straight out direct threat. Fucking assholes. No wonder Greenwald has been unhinged all week.
p.a.
Dems are as bad at branding as Rethugs are good at it, but there should be an all-hands-on-deck effort to wrap tRump as tightly around the Rethug party as possible, because if the report(s) are as bad as we hope (and as evidence seems to indicate) you know the Rethugs will try to insulate themselves from Lord tRumpleroy asap. CAN NOT rely on media to connect the dots.
randy khan
@Cacti:
Greenwald, obviously, if you count him as a progressive.
geg6
@MuckJagger:
Same here. All the people I know who claim to be libertarians always vote GOP straight down the ticket. Never for the actual libertarian candidate.
Spanky
@cmorenc:
I’m hoping that “eventually” is very very soon. It’s a faint hope, but it’s our best hope. Other options would be letting him run wild for 4-8 years, or hope for a 2nd Amendment solution. I’m not there yet.
Adam L Silverman
@Tilda Swintons Bald Cap: I highly doubt that. I would hope he has better things to do.
Napoleon
Greenwald is a flat out traitor to this country at this point.
hovercraft
@raven:
Police: 5 dead, 8 injured in shooting at Florida airport
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) – A lone shooter opened fire at the Fort Lauderdale, Florida, international airport Friday, killing five people and injuring eight before he was taken into custody, officials said. The airport suspended operations as law enforcement authorities rushed to the scene and emergency medical workers treated at least one bleeding victim on the tarmac. Authorities have not yet released a motive for the shooting inside Terminal 2, which serves Delta Air Lines and Air Canada. The Broward County Sheriff’s Office cited multiple deaths on its Twitter account, and Gov. Rick Scott was headed to the airport for a briefing by law enforcementment-
Major Major Major Major
@geg6:
Well, it is a week that contains seven days, so…
AnotherBruce
@SiubhanDuinne: Believe me, they don’t need that excuse. I don’t think that’s going to influence the coverage of this, because they are more interested in normalizing Trump.
raven
@hovercraft: I’m watching it
divF
@Major Major Major Major:
which you honor, even in their absence.
FlipYrWhig
@geg6: @Major Major Major Major: I didn’t realize Greenwald had ever been hinged.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Major Major Major Major:
Doxxing also includes things like SS numbers.
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Yep. Looks like they’re not sure if they’ve got a second shooter or if they’ve got people jumping at a car backfire or a door slamming. I think it is most likely that Broward County Sheriffs Department is being very, very cautious. They’re going to do a foot by foot clear of all spaces.
raven
@Adam L Silverman: I like the dudes in airport vests lying on their back talking on the phone on the sidewalk!
Elizabelle
@hovercraft: reported shooter has a military ID. LA Times ids shooter as Esteban Santiago. Also, Ari Fleischer was at the airport during incident. Did not witness shootings, but has been tweeting.
That said, the Russian hacking is the more important story.
trollhattan
@geg6:
Scratch a Libertarian and underneath you’ll find a Republican who supports legalized pot and is uncomfortable openly defending Republican populism. But, fvck “those people” anyway, because freedom!
raven
He’s Hispanic, let’s bomb Hispanola!!!
El Caganer
@hovercraft: Donald is probably hoping the police find a terrorist link – if so, this intelligence report will vanish faster than snow in July.
EriktheRed
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Assange is Australian.
FlipYrWhig
@El Caganer: There were any number of terrorist attacks and mass shootings during the presidential campaign, and still somehow soon enough the #1 story reverted to being that Hillary Clinton got work emails about work from people she worked with.
Spanky
@raven: Bomb Vieques, Puerto Rico!!
raven
@EriktheRed: Bomb them too!
Major Major Major Major
@divF: ‘themselves’ is an acceptable ungendered singular pronoun in my dialect.
ETA: for that matter they say ‘they’ is fine.
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
So a couple of interesting items to add:
1. I think I see how the “more votes than” narrative plays out in conservative media outlets. We’ve got a local fox affiliate that was historically not real ideological, with a pretty nice anchor/news team, and the BEST weather and sports coverage. This week, their station manager was editorializing adding Johnson’s vote totals to Trump to conclude “the American voters rejected the liberalism of Hillary Clinton in favor of more conservative policies, so liberal have to get over it”, and we’re seeing more church features.
2. Kentucky’s legislature is moving at a breakneck pace to crush the positive things about living in the People’s Democratic Soc!alist Kenyan Shariah Republic of Louisville. So far, it appears that they are going to crush local nondiscrimination ordinances (in addition to enacting a Kentucky version of North Carolina’s bathroom bill, timposing a 20 week abortion ban, a mandatory ultrasound bill, barring political activity from general union contributions and considering some provisions related to stripping localitiies of the ability to create certain special taxing districts for development). They’re determined to out North Carolina North Carolina (the legislative motto – “if cities like Charlotte and Raleigh can’t have NCAA tournament events, neither can Louisville or Lexington”). Anyway, there is this doozy:
The Kentucky Senate on Thursday passed a bill to abolish the University of Louisville board of trustees and create a new system of appointing its members over objections of Democrats who said Republicans were rushing through a measure that could hurt U of L’s accreditation.
Stivers was a friend of mine from law school, and is from Manchester, a corruption-based, impoverished rural hellhole with the highest murder rate in Kentucky, per capita. When he intially assumed the Senate Presidency, he had to work with a Demcratic house and came off as pretty reasonably bipartisan. Once the House flipped, he turned into a standard issue Respublican asshole (especially based on his contraception remarks reported nationally this week). The House, for its part, is now led by Jeff Hoover, who is actually a really nice guy and good lawyer from a place by Lake Cumberland (I’ve had cases with him, and found him to be unfailingly reasonable and polite). Jeff isn’t an asshole, but he’s putty in the hands of his idiot caucus, and temperamentally incapable of stomping on the stupid shit that is bubbling up.
The U of L accreditation thing is a looming catastrophe. Idiot Bevin booted the whole board in 2015, which is a big nono to accreditation agencies, which object to overt politicization. His appointees were a bunch of evangelical climate change deniers, creationists and free marketeers, primarily from one or two megachurches scattered around the outskirts of Louisville. This puts ongoing degrees AND NCAA participation in danger (which may be something with UK fans celebrate), and if nonaccreditation is to follow, going to crimp the fuck out of Louisville’s finances in terms of maintaining Yum Center. Bobby is NOT an accreditation expert, hasn’t bothered to check jack shit with either the accreditation body or the Legislative Research staff, yet feels competent to make this judgment.
This city is fucked under this leadership.
El Caganer
@FlipYrWhig: True enough, but that was about Crooked Hillary – can’t take your eyes of the ball, or Podesta’s risotto recipe might never be revealed to a waiting public. Priorities, yo.
gene108
@Spanky:
Just remember, until January 20, 2017, the Dow’s record highs goes on President Obama’s score sheet.
SiubhanDuinne
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
I don’t think he’s Swedish. For that matter, I’ve not heard that he’s a pedophile (rapist, yes).
Cacti
@Napoleon:
Yep.
A quisling, a Vichy progressive, a bootlicker, a shill, a flack, a ho, etc.
SiubhanDuinne
@gene108:
I’m so old, I can remember ooohing and aahhing when the Dow hit 1,000 in late 1972!
Spanky
@SiubhanDuinne: Wasn’t that in British Pounds back in the Colonial era?
Spanky
@Spanky: (Full disclosure: That was the year I graduated HS.)
raven
@Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class:SAC’s may hammer them. Petrino should be able to help.
MisterForkbeard
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Doxxing includes collecting even publicly disclosed information, as well. For example, assume the following events:
1) I’d posted everything here under “Mister Forkbeard” and then once mentioned my real name.
2) Some asshole looked up my real name and then got my number from a phonebook.
3) Said asshole then posted in here “Mister Forkbeard’s phone number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX”
I’ve just been doxxed, even though all pieces of that were technically disclosed information. That’s what WikiLeaks is threatening to do to people, in addition to disclosing their private financial, housing and friendship relationships. It’s a pretty big threat, making harassment and many other types of invasive and semi-legal behaviors much easier to accomplish. Sort of the same way “peaceful” anti-abortion groups post the personal details of clinic workers in the hopes that someone will hurt them.
schrodingers_cat
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: I think he is an Australian citizen.
rikyrah
@Adam L Silverman:
What is doxxing?
Botsplainer, Cryptofascist Tool of the Oppressor Class
@raven:
All I want Petrino to do is concentrate on replacing proven failure Todd Grantham.
raven
@Spanky: babysan
Major Major Major Major
@MisterForkbeard: yeah, most of the information people are worried about leaking out from a pseudonym are freely given or inferrable through basic detective work. Actual targeted actual hacking is quite rare. This is a general security note not a commentary on the current situation.
@rikyrah: Revealing personal info.
rikyrah
@randy khan:
I do not.
He’s a phucking Libertarian.
divF
@Major Major Major Major: I agree – I use they / them myself, even with singular antecedents. However, fuddy-duddies about numbers matching in English get cranky about it.
MisterForkbeard
@rikyrah: I think Doxxing is basically “Documenting”. It’s about publicly exposing details of a person’s life that are supposed to be private.
Like, if I posted your real name, address, place of work and home phone number on this site. I’d have doxxed you if I’d even disclosed one of those things. Now imagine that you’ve gotten into an argument with someone on the internet who wants to Swat you or cause you other problems, and I’ve just given them all the information they need to do it.
That’s why doxxing is very frowned upon in most internet circles.
EDIT: Just to clarify, on most sites and communities doxxing someone gets you banned. It can get you banned from Twitter (for example), but Twitter’s policies are so rarely enforced that they don’t really matter. It’s also legally actionable in some jurisdictions as harassment.
raven
“For those of you not familiar with the airport, terminal 2 is literally right next to terminal 3”!!!! Fuck yes!
Mnemosyne
@MisterForkbeard:
This. And Wikileaks is threatening to collect the same information for the same purpose.
I know that at least one doctor, Bernard Slepian (?), was murdered thanks to the doxxing information that forced birthers posted about him in their database. I believe that’s also how George Tiller’s murderer found him.
Major Major Major Major
@divF: oh, I thought you were criticizing.
? Martin
@Major Major Major Major: Right. But the idea is that they will release personal information on these individuals – finances, medical history, stuff like that.
This is part of a well known tactic to silence critics by pushing them out of the public space by making it embarrassing for them to be public. Make it so that anytime they are trying to be critical of someone, they are drowned out by questions regarding whatever was released.
Chip Daniels
I can’t help but wonder if there isn’t someone within the IRS, or Trump Tower with access to Trump’s taxes, and motive to leak.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@El Caganer: I still don’t have the recipe, only his response to an email about it. Halp, please. His name ends in a vowel, so he seems to have the ancestral cred for it to be a good one.
rikyrah
From Russia With Love: How Republicans Willingly Joined Forces with Three Foreign Adversaries to Undermine American Sovereignty
Trevor LaFauci
January 6, 2017
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
On the night of Barack Obama’s 2009 inauguration, roughly 15 Republican congressmen and party officials met in the Caucus Room, a high-end Washington, DC establishment, to begin what would be an eight-year battle against President Barack Obama and the Democratic agenda. It was this very meeting that would set the tone for the duration of President Obama’s presidency and would lead unprecedented levels of obstruction, the likes of what our country had never seen. Time and time again, Republicans placed party ahead of country while simultaneously earning back representation, first by retaking the House of Representatives in 2010 and then retaking the Senate in 2014. These tactics earned the ire of Democrats and progressives but Republicans were never in the business of making friends. They simply wanted to do everything in their power to ensure that the country’s first African-American president would be as unsuccessful as possible.
Including working with our enemies, both foreign and domestic.
Now, to openly work with our adversaries is outright treason. But Republicans know the power of information and more importantly misinformation in the 21st century. In knowing this, they began embracing a policy of deliberately undermining President Obama in an effort to weaken him and his administration. This policy became clear in 2013 when disgruntled NSA employee Edward Snowden decided to steal 1.7 million documents and distribute classified information to a trio of journalists including notorious Obama critic, Glenn Greenwald of The Guardian while he fled to Hong Kong. While in Hong Kong, Snowden came on the radar of Vladimir Putin who allowed him to meet with Russian representatives and eventually plot safe passage out of Hong Kong. Thanks to financial assistance from Julian Assange in June, Snowden was able to depart Hong Kong to find refuge in Russia, accompanied by Sarah Harrison, a Wikileaks journalist.
MisterForkbeard
@Chip Daniels: Not much of a reason to at this point, unless those taxes show him definitively in hock to Russian state interests up to his ears. Combined with other recent disclosures, that could actually force some change.
Though the “change” in this sense wouldn’t be Trump getting fired, it’d be him selling off his properties or getting his debts otherwise under control.
Spanky
@raven: Old Fart.
rikyrah
What a punk ass bytch
Paul Ryan Unleashes Security Guards To Prevent Planned Parenthood From Delivering Petitions
By Jason Easley on Fri, Jan 6th, 2017 at 1:13 pm
Planned Parenthood tried to deliver 87,000 petitions to Speaker of The House Paul Ryan’s office, but they were greeted by six security guards as the leader of “The People’s House” closed his office and refused the petitions.
The Planned Parenthood Action Fund Twitter account detailed the events:
Mnemosyne
@? Martin:
It worked like a charm against Hillary, so why not keep doing it? Nobody cares that the “damning” DNC emails had been stolen by Russian hackers, or that they weren’t even her emails.
rikyrah
You Wanted Evidence on the Russians?
by Martin Longman
January 6, 2017 1:20 PM
If you we’re paying attention through the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, you probably can’t think of too many people less credible than Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham, former CIA Director James Woolsey, or really any neoconservative who was outspoken at the time. That makes it difficult for a lot of progressives to accept them as allies in a dispute with Donald Trump over the quality of the Intelligence Community’s product when assessing Russia’s role in getting Trump elected. That’s totally understandable, and maybe Woolsey quitting the president-elect’s transition team in disgust doesn’t impress you in the least.
If you need more evidence, try reading Jeremy Ashkenas’s piece in the New York Times. It looks pretty cut and dry that Russian hackers were responsible for the phishing attack against John Podesta. The same accounts were used to hack into the DNC. Most of their activity outside the United States was against targets “in Russia and states formerly in the Soviet Union.” Most of the authors and journalists who were targeted “wrote about Russia, Ukraine and global affairs.” Their nonpolitical targets were mainly military, mostly in the United States, but also in NATO and Syria.
These aren’t the types of targets that a 14-year-old hacker would come up with, nor a primarily criminal group of operators.
This doesn’t answer every question, but it settles a lot.
Now, the next thing to know is if these Russian hackers are the ones who shared this information with Wikileaks. And that appears to be the case, although here we have to go on faith until the IC shows us their work.
US intelligence has identified the go-betweens the Russians used to provide stolen emails to WikiLeaks, according to US officials familiar with the classified intelligence report that was presented to President Barack Obama on Thursday.
It stands to reason that the organization that successfully hacked into the DNC and Podesta’s email would be the organization to share the pilfered information with Wikileaks, but it definitely helps to know the actual couriers. The public would like to see more on how they identified them, but that may be something a little too sensitive to divulge. We’ll see what’s in the declassified version of the report when we get it next week. Some people are just inclined to give more credibility to Julian Assange than to our own Intelligence Community, and I can sympathize with that disposition. But you should look deeper in Assange’s record with Russia. Take a look at the long piece by Zack Beauchamp at Vox, for example.
The next step is to ask whether the Russians tried to get Trump elected or if they they were just looking to cause us embarrassment and hurt our global reputation. Everyone seems to agree that Putin holds a grudge against Hillary Clinton from her time as Secretary of State, but was there a deeper reason than spite and revenge?
That needs to be explored, but the most damning evidence is in clear sight. It’s what Trump has said, what he has done, who he has hired, the policies he’s proposed, and who he defends, attacks, and chooses to believe or disbelieve.
In every case, his actions are more in line with what Putin would want than what an American president would want.
We don’t need to believe the CIA or the NSA or John McCain to believe our own eyes and ears.
Chip Daniels
@MisterForkbeard:
And the odds of a tangle of Russian debts are pretty good, I think.
trollhattan
@rikyrah:
Damn, your restraint here is laudable. Young Dreamypants thinks gurls are icky. Just great, mister speaker. Wonder if he’ll give Trump the reacharound after, or during his inaugural address?
rikyrah
Trump Meets With Intelligence Community Then Lies To Protect Russia
By Jason Easley on Fri, Jan 6th, 2017 at 3:26 pm
President-elect Trump met with the intelligence community on Friday and then released a misleading statement that verged on baseless lies to protect Putin and Russia.
President-elect Trump met with the intelligence community on Friday and then released a misleading statement that verged on baseless lies to protect Putin and Russia.
Here is the statement from Trump about the meeting:
Keeping America safe is Trump’s number one priority. Unless the attacks come from Russia and help Trump, then he is going to defend the attackers who weakened American democracy while looking the other way.
Trump’s claim that the Russian cyber attacks didn’t influence the election is based on nothing but his own opinion. The Russian attacks did influence the election because the hacked emails dominated the media coverage and melded with Republican conspiracies about Hillary Clinton’s emails to drown out any serious discussion for months on end.
J R in WV
@Kay:
Not vague, specific and alarming!
randy khan
@raven:
In fairness, I know of some airports where there are big gaps between terminals. At Heathrow, terminals 2 and 3 are next to each other, but 4 is nowhere near them and 5 is off in its own place, also separated from the others.
Adam L Silverman
@rikyrah: A public release of personally identifying information (PII) in an attempt to threaten, harass, and/or harm or to allow others to threaten, harass, and/or harm.
rikyrah
Trump Attacks on Clinton and CIA Director Brennan Lead us Down a Slippery Slope
By Hrafnkell Haraldsson on Fri, Jan 6th, 2017 at 8:06 am
This is a slippery and dangerous slope down which Trump and his surrogates have embarked. This is how dictatorships function, not democracies
With Donald Trump as their guidepost, there isn’t much Trumpists will hesitate to say. When Sean Hannity used Wikileaks to claim Russian hacking isn’t the scandal but rather “how corrupt the liberal news media is,” he took his cue from Donald Trump.
Roger Stone, no doubt inspired by Trump’s denigration of US intelligence services is claiming CIA Director John Brennan is a Saudi mole. He tweeted Brennan’s alleged Muslim Brotherhood sympathies back in December with a call to jail him, and what better time to do it than when it is looking more and more like Donald Trump is a Russian mole:
Appearing on Alex Jones’ InfoWars, he repeated the claim and again called for the jailing of the CIA director, saying Brennan is the “progenitor of” Russian hacking claims and that Brennan “is a mole, a Saudi mole.” It is no coincidence that this claim comes at the same time Trump is saying he will gut the nation’s intelligence agencies, including the CIA.
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This is a slippery and dangerous slope down which Trump and his surrogates have embarked, where facts are punished and lies are the basis of criminal charges. This is how dictatorships function. It is not how the world’s first modern liberal democracy was meant to function.
Remember, Donald Trump isn’t just suggesting Brennan & Co. are wrong, but that they are inventing the Russia connection out of whole cloth to delegitimize he, Donald Trump. He isn’t accusing Brennan of incompetence. He is accusing him of what amounts to the old charge of Lèse-majesté – of plotting against the reigning monarch.
This is scary territory for a democracy and people should be fully aware of just how terrifying a spectacle it is as a precedent.
Donald Trump is just as willing to destroy that democracy to further his ambitions as he is the careers and lives of the people who get in his way, and his followers like Roger Stone, are willing to zealously push any insane scheme to accomplish those goals.
Remember, witch hunts don’t require evidence either. They require only an accusation.
Lizzy L
Breaking news from the NYT:
MisterForkbeard
@Lizzy L: So his response is “Maybe they did it, but they totally didn’t hack the RNC and there’s no proof, and even if there was it didn’t affect the election AT ALL.”
So… basically, the same thing he’s always said. What a tool.
Thoroughly Pizzled
Doxxing is really monstrous stuff. People have been forced to leave their homes. They’ve had SWAT teams called on them. They’ve lost their jobs.
Mnemosyne
@Lizzy L:
And don’t you love how they just can’t stop themselves from reflexively saying “Democrat” instead of “Democratic” even when it’s part of a proper name? Assholes.
Millard Filmore
@rikyrah:
Here I am, the Not A Security Expert, stepping into this mess again. About that “strong hacking defenses” thing … if you have an “oopsie” on a phishing attack, aren’t you essentially hosed? No matter how string your defenses are?
aimai
@Chip Daniels: Its too late to matter, surely?
FlipYrWhig
@Millard Filmore: Also, do we know anything about RNC “hacking defenses,” or do we just not have any leaked information to scrutinize in the manner experts have been able to scrutinize the Podesta and DNC dumps from Wiki-whatever?
SiubhanDuinne
@Spanky:
Groats.
Major Major Major Major
@Millard Filmore: maybe they use 2-factor authentication. I doubt it, but that’s the easiest anti-phishing defense I can think of other than location monitoring.
FlipYrWhig
@Millard Filmore: Or, to put it another way, if someone breaks into your neighbor’s house by copying the key, while you just leave your front door unlocked — but the burglar doesn’t happen to try it — whose house would you say has the bigger security problem?
El Caganer
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): It’s probably been retroactively marked “Classified.”
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
Oh FFS.
FlipYrWhig
@Major Major Major Major: It is impossible for me to conceive that Corey Lewandowski, Jeffrey Lord, and all their other campaign goobers are just too savvy to get punked by an official-looking email. They’re not exactly immune to being duped.
Millard Filmore
@FlipYrWhig:
That type of information if typically never disclosed. For years I have been attentive to security breaches in the news, like credit card or Social Security number leaks. Details about anything related to the event are rare.
J R in WV
@rikyrah:
Documenting all the details of your life and publishing them on the thing called the Internet. Things like your name, photos of you, address, work name and address, phone numbers, SSN, car make/model/license plate number, email address, family members names, schools where you kids go, sexual preferences, hobbies, parents names and addresses, all the things that might be in a database they can acquire. That’s Doxxing.
Quite an innocent sounding nickname for what it really is. Then they suggest to Nazis that you should be prevented from interfering with the progress of White Supremacy and Theocracy.
coin operated
@Millard Filmore: Except, there is strong evidence that the RNC was in fact hacked.
ETA…dammit…my link-fu sucks.
Mnemosyne
Because I can be an unfeeling jerk sometimes, I am now feeling amused at my suspicion that the CIA/IC wanted to punish Hillary for Benghazi (which happened partly because of the ongoing conflict between the CIA and the State Dept), but they fucked up and didn’t realize the Russians were as heavily invested in defeating Hillary as they were. So now the CIA managed to install a Russian operative as president because they overreached to try and bring Hillary down.
You gotta admit, it’s plausible. The CIA really sucks at covert ops even though they’re convinced they’re geniuses.
Mnemosyne
@FlipYrWhig:
Lewandowsky probably has his own log-in to the Kremlin’s intranet — no hacking needed.
Steeplejack (phone)
@rikyrah:
Trump:
This is going to come back to bite him in the ass.
FlipYrWhig
@Steeplejack (phone): We can only hope.
Major Major Major Major
@FlipYrWhig: even Podesta knew enough to ask the IT guy first.
geg6
@rikyrah:
The cowardly Ryan.
geg6
@Steeplejack (phone):
Agreed.
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne: When they stick to information analysis, they are geniuses. They really do attract great talent as analysts. When they try covert ops, they seem to get deluded cowboy types who scare the shit even out of other CIA operatives – not with how badass they are, but with how dangerously loony they are.
Or so I’ve heard from friends of mine who TOTALLY DON’T work for the company, nosiree, they just know a lot about *how* it works.
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
I have a friend who was doing “research” in Macedonia post-USSR collapse.
I’ve never asked the question, because I’m pretty sure he would be required to lie to me anyway.
Villago Delenda Est
@Kay: Libertarians are neo-feudalists. Fuck them all.