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You are here: Home / Organizing & Resistance / Don't Mourn, Organize / It takes a nation of millions

It takes a nation of millions

by DougJ|  January 22, 201712:24 pm| 89 Comments

This post is in: Don't Mourn, Organize, Don't Trip, Organize, Vive La Resistance

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Yesterday’s nationwide Women’s March was by far the largest protest in American history:

 

According to UConn Professor Jeremy Pressman’s Google document of crowd estimates the low-end estimate is 3.66 million marchers. The high-end estimate is 4.57 million. Whether it is the low or high estimate that is accurate the Women’s March On Washington shattered the previous record for the largest one-day protest in the United States.

Consider that the 1963 Civil Rights March On Washington had 250,000 attendees and that the previous record holder was believed to one of either the anti-nuclear protest in Central Park in 1982, the Million Man March in 1995, or the LGBT March for Equal Rights in 1993. Each of these protests had a high-end estimate of 1 million or so.

The Women’s March low-end estimate is more than three and a half times bigger than anything that has ever been done before in the United States of America.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    January 22, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    So you’re saying it was YOOGE.

  2. 2.

    Trentrunner

    January 22, 2017 at 12:28 pm

    Well done, my sisters (and supporting brothers).

    It’s hard to rank Trump’s damage, but my own opinion is that his damage in the campaign fell disproportionately on women. (This was not accidental, btw.)

    So I am very, very glad to see women leading the organizing and fighting and having the high profile. I am happy to be led by you, and I am 100% behind you.

    And I am unsurprised but gratified that these marches and rallies, conceived, organized, and executed by women, were the largest marches in American history.

  3. 3.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    January 22, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    So happy to have been a part of it – as depressed as I’ve been, I’m feeling as angry and determined today. It felt like we reclaimed some ground yesterday. Trump’s sell by date was 11/9.

  4. 4.

    trollhattan

    January 22, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Next up: release a phalanx of Republican point-talkers to show that numbers are lying liars.

    OTOH for we living in the real world, have hope.

  5. 5.

    TaMara (HFG)

    January 22, 2017 at 12:30 pm

    Wow, Denver beat out Boston. That’s incredible. DC numbers are amazing. Thanks for this.

  6. 6.

    SFAW

    January 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Those numbers are all RIGGED!

    The Orange Deadbeat Shitgibbon had at least 50 TIMES that many watch him the day before. He could see skillions of people, people everywhere, as far as his hands could reach!

  7. 7.

    TaMara (HFG)

    January 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    @Baud: Slow clap.

  8. 8.

    Ian G.

    January 22, 2017 at 12:39 pm

    I was born in 1980. One of my earliest lasting memories of world events was the collapse of Communism at the hands of largely peaceful people in the streets. Trump is not Erich Hoenecker. He’s probably already under his bed sucking his thumb after yesterday, looking for ways to leave the job with as little humiliation as possible. Keep the pressure up!

    Also, the NY Times photo collage of the protests featured Tbilisi, Georgia, which was nice considering that Georgia was not long ago on the receiving end of military aggression at the hands of Trump’s masters in Moscow.

  9. 9.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    January 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    It was very inspiring. I’m glad that we did this.

  10. 10.

    sdhays

    January 22, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    Someone pointed out that Trump’s shitshow yesterday is dominating the news today rather than the huge protests, but I think the thing with these protests and their size is that lots and lots of people were there – they don’t need to see it on the news. Protests of this size, particularly the spectacularly peaceful protests like the ones yesterday, don’t need the media to pay particular attention. Trump knows we were there, the members of Congress know we were there, the people who showed up know we were there, and the people they know know we were there.

    We just need to make sure this is only the beginning.

  11. 11.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    January 22, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    I’m still amazed at the turnout in St Louis. Living in the 2nd reddest county in Misery, I sometimes wonder if I’m the only Democrat. Yesterday was reaffirming. My wife was at the DC march. She’s never been the political firebrand I’ve been but the last 8 months has turned her into a figurative Bolshie.

  12. 12.

    OGLiberal

    January 22, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    The wingnut response I’ve seen so far among my many wingnut FB friends is that it doesn’t matter because potty mouthed Madonna said mean things so that invalidates the entire event globally.

  13. 13.

    Jeffro

    January 22, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    @Ian G.:

    Trump is not Erich Hoenecker. He’s probably already under his bed sucking his thumb after yesterday, looking for ways to leave the job with as little humiliation as possible.

    Oh I doubt he’s thinking of leaving, and he’d never leave if he thought it was on anything but his terms (i.e., not while he’s being humiliated like this).

    1) He’ll be at a pro-Trump rally or six by the end of this coming week, talking about “see? SEE? MY people!”
    2) He’ll most certainly hustle to sign whatever anti-female, anti-DC, anti-1st-amendement legislation he can

    With him it’s all about money, sex, food, and revenge…he’s been thoroughly dominated here less than 48 hours after being sworn in. My guess is, his #1 priority ain’t a cheeseburger…

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    Homeward bound w/ sis and the younglings. I think I’ve got food poisoning, so a 15-hour car trip kinda sucks right now. But I’m so glad to have participated and grateful to everyone who supported the DC March and its sister marches worldwide. Felt something yesterday I hadn’t felt since 11/8: at home in my own fucking country! ?

  15. 15.

    Jeffro

    January 22, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    @OGLiberal: That only requires some gentle, mocking agreement…”yup, absolutely, a few swears and those 3M people disappear, uh huh” ;)

    PBO: “Reality has a way of asserting itself”

  16. 16.

    Michael Bersin

    January 22, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    My second group of photos from yesterday’s Women’s March in Kansas City:

    Women’s March – Kansas City – Washington Square Park – January 21, 2017 – part 2

  17. 17.

    MomSense

    January 22, 2017 at 12:49 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Sorry to hear about the food poisoning. Glad you had a great time yesterday. Loved your photos. Safe home.

  18. 18.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2017 at 12:51 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Next up: release a phalanx of Republican point-talkers to show that numbers are lying liars.

    I believe that the current terminology is that they are going to present “alternative facts”.

  19. 19.

    p.a.

    January 22, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    tRump really is a unifier!
    “Anger is an energy. Anger is an energy.”- John Lydon

  20. 20.

    Chip Daniels

    January 22, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    I am more hopeful now than anytime since the election.
    I think its helpful to have faith int he rightness of our message, that a vision of a society that is warm and generous, welcoming and inclusive is ultimately going to win out over a vision that is hateful and angry, dark and Trumpian.

    How many Trump voters listened to his dark and mournful inauguration speech and came away feeling enthused and invigorated?

    Versus the protestors who are now energized, and eager for the coming struggles?

    Anger, even righteous anger, is an exhausting thing. It can mobilize us for short bursts of energy, but can’t sustain us for the long haul.

  21. 21.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    January 22, 2017 at 12:52 pm

    @sdhays:

    What’s dominating the news today is his fixation on his “ratings”, his inability to deal with reality, and the gaslighting required to maintain his ego. This is DAY 2. Here’s my prediction – his attempt to turn the country into a reality show, forcing the fucktards in his party to defend him and his inability to deliver what he promised because he’s an incompetent lunatic, will get old really quickly and they’ll want to install dumb, but not insane, Pence because Trump’s approval numbers will only go lower and he’s going to be a boat anchor in the midterms. Trump will never want to be impeached – bad for his ratings – so he’ll turn on the GOP, and have to make a deal with Schumer to avoid conviction on things he already is guilty of, and who knows what that deal may be. Schumer should think about one, soon. I think both parties see that he’s a toddler in a locked room with them and us, with a live grenade on crack, with Putin’s thugs squeezing his tiny nuts. He’s got to be cut loose.

  22. 22.

    mai naem mobile

    January 22, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    At this rate Peter Thiel is going to have to design a virtual reality set up for Lumpy so that he has a cheering crowd wherever he goes so that he doesn’t become completely unhinged. Sort of like a potemkin crowd.

  23. 23.

    Xantar

    January 22, 2017 at 12:55 pm

    Sorry to be that guy, but I don’t find it useful to compare all of the protests across the country yesterday to previous protests which were restricted to one location. If you want to make that comparison, it’s good enough to just say that the Women’s March on Washington was probably around the size of the anti-Vietnam protest and was definitely bigger than Trump’s inauguration.

    Now if we do an apples to apples comparison to the Tea Party, then I’d be totally down with that.

  24. 24.

    randy khan

    January 22, 2017 at 12:57 pm

    So I think it’s kind of weird that I was at three of the four. (I’m pretty sure about the 1993 LGBT march, although I went to several so I don’t have a specific memory of it.)

    The 1982 New York anti-nukes march was incomprehensibly big. I particularly remember one point in the day: I had started at a staging point on the East Side, and as we got to Times Square we realized that our enormous column of people was just one of three that were converging on Broadway. It was mind-boggling.

    When we finished the merge, I found myself right next to John Anderson (1980 third party Presidential candidate, for those who aren’t olds like me). He was just marching in a group from Ohio, and was happily chatting with people as he walked.

    The DC march wasn’t that big, but it was awfully big, and of course when you add in all of the other cities, the total is much, much higher than any previous protest.

  25. 25.

    Calouste

    January 22, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: What’s in it for Schumer? It’s not like Trump can bring any GOP votes.

  26. 26.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    January 22, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Today’s Doonesbury has Cheeto Benito nailed.

  27. 27.

    SFAW

    January 22, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    @Calouste:

    : What’s in it for Schumer?

    It’ll help Schumer stave off the challenge from Andy Cuomo.

  28. 28.

    GregB

    January 22, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    Potemkin crowds.

    Wow.

  29. 29.

    Felonius Monk

    January 22, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    You’re saying that yesterday’s protest march was Yuuuuuge and it was the biggliest protest in American history.
    Who says the Drumpenfucher doesn’t bring out the best in people.

    Hail to the Thief. The Commander-in-Thief. Making America Great, one protest at a time.

  30. 30.

    hovercraft

    January 22, 2017 at 1:03 pm

    @trollhattan:
    They can try, but the media is just not having it today.
    Chris Wallace Fires Back At Priebus’ ‘Ridiculous’ Argument Over Crowd Size

    “You talk about honesty, and say that this was about honesty,” Wallace said. “Well, there’s another issue, though, Reince, and that’s the President’s honesty, because two things that he said yesterday were just flat wrong.”

    He showed side-by-side photos from Trump’s inauguration and President Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009 to compare crowd sizes.

    “Take a look at those pictures,” he said. “Which one is bigger?”

    “Listen, you’re also not saying that that picture was taken before he was even speaking,” Priebus interrupted. “I could take a picture of the Mall right now—”

    “I was there! I was there on the Mall!” Wallace said, speaking over Priebus. “I mean let me say first of all I think this is a ridiculous conversation, but there were huge areas. He said there were crowds all the way to the Washington Monument.”

  31. 31.

    GregB

    January 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    @OGLiberal:

    Just link to the You Tube video of Trump saying fuck and mother fucker at various rallies.

    Also, ask them why they are soooooo upset over a little salty locker room banter.

  32. 32.

    Culture of Truth

    January 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    My guess is Trump thinking of ways to inflict humiliation on his many perceived enemies.

  33. 33.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    January 22, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: John Schindler makes a good point:

    Several White Houses have wound up retreating into self-delusion and lies to the press & public. We’ve never had one that way from Day One.

    He’s among a bunch of GOP folks saying things like that. He also says

    I love how the Internet broke the MSM monopoly on information.
    I hate how it empowered freaks, liars & fantasists.
    Especially in the WH.

    So I think people on all sides are getting spooked. Not the base, of course, but others.

  34. 34.

    hovercraft

    January 22, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    SNL closed with the cast singing To Sir With Love, as a tribute to my President Barrack Hussein Obama.

    At the end of the song, the duo held up a cup. “We got you a mug. It says ‘World’s Best President,'” Strong said.

    “Thank you. Don’t go,” Zamata chimed in.

  35. 35.

    JordanRules

    January 22, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    Shout out to Public Enemy! Well done Doug.

    March in Phoenix was amazing. And being able to immediately see the sister marches all of the world is awesome. Thanks for your tubes Al Gore!

  36. 36.

    Felonius Monk

    January 22, 2017 at 1:08 pm

    @hovercraft:

    They can try, but the media is just not having it today.

    How do you know your administration is already in trouble? Sending your CoS out to defend indefensible trivia.

  37. 37.

    randy khan

    January 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    @Xantar:

    I think it’s fine. The key points are that it was all over the country, and turnout was much higher than expected, and this reinforces those points.

  38. 38.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    January 22, 2017 at 1:13 pm

    @Calouste:

    Trump switching out Putin’s vise on his tiny balls for Schumer’s in an impeachment scenario might be preferable. who the fuck knows anything, the guy’s a loon.

  39. 39.

    Peale

    January 22, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: look. He’s going to do plenty of damage while he’s there and in a just world no one will get hurt. But Shumers job is not going to be to save Trump from republicans, but instead to make sure he burns a hole in their ship. People are going to be hurt, but it’s our job to make sure that those people won’t be forgotten while the GOP tries to take credit for “stopping Trump’s excesses”. The GOP is not a humane party. Trump’s positions are their positions. We aren’t here to build their party a life boat.

  40. 40.

    randy khan

    January 22, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    @a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):

    And it probably was written at least a week ago, maybe longer, given newspaper deadlines for Sunday comics sections.

  41. 41.

    pamelabrown53

    January 22, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Thank you, hovercraft, for providing the SNL link “To Sir With Love”. While previously holding the opinion that song was a tad on the cheesy, sentimental side, tears rolled down my cheeks. Guess I love cheese and the sentimentality was heartfelt.

    Indeed: good bye, President Obama; don’t go!

  42. 42.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 22, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Dave Weigel ‏@ daveweigel 4m4 minutes ago
    This was a reason why I’ve usually avoided getting comments from Spicer. He’s a liar, and not a very good one.

  43. 43.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    January 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    My spouse came up with the theory today that Trump (and thus his staff) sees everything through the prism of Celebrity Apprentice. Thus, crowd size equals ratings, and thus the

    Trump Presidential Celebrity Apprentice MUST beat the Obama News Hour and The Pus**hat Worldwide Variety Show.

    Thus the spin to work the refs.

  44. 44.

    dww44

    January 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Betty I’ve been thinking about you and your return trip to your home in Florida. Presumably you may be traveling I-95 so please be aware that South Georgia and the panhandle are under severe weather/tornado watches. Last night was a bad night and it’s not over yet. Know you are traveling under a tight timeline, but please consider a layover somewhere until the bad weather is over by tomorrow.

  45. 45.

    OGLiberal

    January 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    @GregB: Their response is, “what happened to when they go low, we go high?” They’re unreachable and irredeemable so I’m not even going to waste time arguing.

    Also, many are suggesting she should be jailed because of her “blow up White House” comment. Scary stuff on day 2.

  46. 46.

    JanieM

    January 22, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    I can’t get the reply button to work, but this is from Betty Cracker: “Felt something yesterday I hadn’t felt since 11/8: at home in my own fucking country!”

    Me too. For long-winded reasons, I didn’t get to the march in Augusta (Maine) as I had intended. But I’ve been in tears all day yesterday and today just looking at the pictures here at BJ and everywhere else.

    The focus of the OP is the USA, but I have been especially moved by the shots from overseas. Bangkok, Dublin, Berlin, London, and on and on and on. A woman in Florence, Italy, was holding up a sign that said, “Make America Think Again.” That made me smile even as the tears were falling. Not only did it turn DT’s stupid slogan on its head, it’s a sweet double-entendre.

  47. 47.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    @mai naem mobile:

    At this rate Peter Thiel is going to have to design a virtual reality set up for Lumpy so that he has a cheering crowd wherever he goes so that he doesn’t become completely unhinged. Sort of like a potemkin crowd.

    He’s already started to bring along a group of sycophants to his events so he’s guaranteed to have cheers and applause at the right time during his speeches. With that, there’s no need for VR.

  48. 48.

    hovercraft

    January 22, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    Trump inauguration draws nearly 31 million U.S. television viewers

    Nearly 31 million viewers watched live U.S. television coverage of Donald Trump’s presidential inauguration, far fewer than tuned in to Barack Obama’s first swearing-in, but otherwise the biggest such audience since Ronald Reagan entered office, ratings firm Nielsen reported on Saturday.

    The tally for Trump – 30.6 million viewers on 12 broadcast and cable networks that aired live coverage from about 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. EST – surpassed the TV audiences measured for his two most recent Republican predecessors – both inaugurations of George W. Bush and the one of his father, George H.W. Bush.

    The 2009 inauguration of Obama, who became the nation’s first African-American president that year, was watched by nearly 38 million viewers, the second-highest number since Nielsen began compiling such figures with Richard Nixon’s 1969 oath of office.

    Only Reagan drew a bigger U.S. TV inauguration audience, with nearly 42 million viewers tuning in to see the California Republican sworn in for his first term in 1981. Just 25 million watched Reagan take his second oath of office four years later.

    Trump’s total was greater than both swearing-ins of Democrat Bill Clinton – 29.7 million and 21.6 million – and the second inauguration of Obama, who drew an average audience of over 20.5 million in 2013, Nielsen said.

    George W. Bush holds the distinction for having the least-watched inauguration in Nielsen’s historical data – 15.5 million viewers in 2005 after he defeated John Kerry for his second term in the White House. That was down sharply from the 29 million who tuned in for Bush’s first oath in 2001, following his contested election victory over Al Gore.

    SAD !
    Yay ;- )

  49. 49.

    the Conster, la Citoyenne

    January 22, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    @Peale:

    They’ll need Dem votes to convict, so if the goopers are determined to install Pence, the question is do Dems prefer to live with Trump or Pence?

  50. 50.

    gene108

    January 22, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    One thing I have discerned about reading up on the MSM critiquing itself, especially the political reporting, is that though they may get a story wrong, they are doing the supremely difficult job of figuring out how much of a politician’s statement is based on fact and how much on spin.

    And they are making their most diligent honest efforts to get us only the facts, in the most unbiased way possible.

    I know very few of us buy into this critique, but for the MSM it is gospel.

    And for Trump to call then “the dishonest media” on day one, followed by Spicer calling them liars and declaring the reporting they did on Friday, about crowd size, was wrong, must have really gotten the MSM’s backs up.

    They right after a very sore spot with the way the media perceives themselves as being honest brokers.

    Plus a bunch of them know they are sitting (or sat) on serious allegations about Team Trumo colluding with the Russians that could have flipped the election, so I do not think they are going to put up with much shit from Team Trump.

  51. 51.

    AndoChronic

    January 22, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    What about this one? This was euge too.

    “On February 15, 2003, there was a coordinated day of protests across the world in which people in more than 600 cities expressed opposition to the imminent Iraq War. It was part of a series of protests and political events that had begun in 2002 and continued as the war took place. Social movement researchers have described the 15 February protest as “the largest protest event in human history”.

    Sources vary in their estimations of the number of participants involved. According to BBC News, between six and eleven million people took part in protests in up to sixty countries over the weekend of February 15 and 16; other estimates range from eight million to thirty million.” ~Wiki

  52. 52.

    amk

    January 22, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    @Xantar: It had both the depth and the breadth. That’s the take away here.

  53. 53.

    gene108

    January 22, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    FYWP ate a comment. Hope it’s full.

  54. 54.

    cosima

    January 22, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    I’m glad the marches went well.

    However, Check out the new bill introduced by Congress (HR 193) to end the US’ membership in the UN. Congress.gov. My daughter had a link to it on her FB page, but now the internet says it’s unavailable. If it is, in fact, legitimate, everyone needs to phone their reps & sens about 100x tomorrow.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    January 22, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne: Pence. It’s a no brainer. Dems have to vote to remove Trump.

  56. 56.

    tobie

    January 22, 2017 at 1:24 pm

    I know we BJers are a verbal group, so I think we should record some of the chants we heard yesterday. These are the ones I recall hearing in DC:

    We want a leader,
    not a creepy tweeter.

    He’s orange, he’s gross,
    he lost the popular vote.

    We will not go away,
    Welcome to your first day!

  57. 57.

    hovercraft

    January 22, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland:
    Well he lost the ratings challenge badly, by at least 7 million.
    So who’s the loser now asshole. HA !
    He keeps trying to emulate Obama, and just keeps coming up short. Someone should whisper in his ear that trying just makes him look more pathetic, so just stop. He’s not fit to shine Obama’s shoes let alone fill them.

  58. 58.

    cosima

    January 22, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr193

  59. 59.

    Emma

    January 22, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    @hovercraft: Damn. I had managed not to cry until now.

  60. 60.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    @Calouste:

    What’s in it for Schumer?

    I think the idea is that he’s have Trump over a barrel and succeed in getting him to oppose the Republicans in Congress, rather than go along with them the way Pence would. I don’t think it’s a workable theory, since nothing would hold Trump to any promises he made after impeachment was over.

  61. 61.

    gene108

    January 22, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    The MSM prides itself on being honest brokers, especially with political coverage. They feel they are tasked with the supremely difficult duty of telling political fact from political spin. Sure they miss stories, get things wrong, but gosh darn it they sincerely try to do their best.

    They value this self image more than access.

    And Trump and Spicer shot it all to hell by calling them “the dishonest media” because they reported what their eyes and photos showed to them about Friday’S crowd size.

    They went after the MSM’s professional pride.

    I hope the MSM does not back down because of this.

  62. 62.

    Gator90

    January 22, 2017 at 1:31 pm

    @JordanRules: PE in full effect! (This government definitely needs a tune-up.)

  63. 63.

    gene108

    January 22, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    @cosima:

    Republicans hate the UN. Who knows why.

    When GWB became President, getting us out of the UN was a big part of the right wing agenda. Jesse Helms refused to release or membership dues, when he became head of the Senate Foreign relations committee.

    The desire to undermine the UN was propbably one reason Bush, Jr went about the misadventure in Iraq the way he did.

    This is something we have to be on constant guard about with Republicans.

  64. 64.

    Peale

    January 22, 2017 at 1:42 pm

    @gene108: yep. They somehow think that belonging to an institution that puts the brake on whatever we want to do makes us too weak. That’s going to be one of the main differences between Trump and Obama. I’m still kind of convinced that Trump will want to get the UN out of NY because he’ll want to put a new Trump high rise on that valuable property.

  65. 65.

    sigaba

    January 22, 2017 at 1:43 pm

    @hovercraft:

    “I was there! I was there on the Mall!” Wallace said, speaking over Priebus. “I mean let me say first of all I think this is a ridiculous conversation, but there were huge areas. He said there were crowds all the way to the Washington Monument.”

    I’m glad Wallace made it a matter of his word, so it put Preibus on the spot of having to call him a liar to his face. I’m also glad he said the whole conversation is ridiculous, because this is the most important fact of this whole incident. That he lies is bad, but that he does so totally gratuitiously and with no utility is really astonishing.

  66. 66.

    debbie

    January 22, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    It was both catharsis and empowerment.

    Hope someone can figure out the combined attendance worldwide.

  67. 67.

    hovercraft

    January 22, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    @gene108:

    Republicans hate the UN. Who knows why.

    It’s full of feriners, and we are not the boss of it. They like it when we go in guns a blazing, and the UN is always trying to cramp our style. They believe in science, and that all countries should have a voice, definitely not republican values.

  68. 68.

    debbie

    January 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Loved your tweets!

  69. 69.

    Peale

    January 22, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    @gene108: NATO resistance to Iraq was one of the reasons the Bushies pushed to expand NATO to include “new Europe”, which is why we’re dealing with Members on Russia’s borders.

  70. 70.

    Peale

    January 22, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    @sigaba: yep. All the administration had to do was change the subject and scoff at attendance as something that really matters. It doesn’t matter. They still have all the power. But they can’t let that go.

  71. 71.

    debbie

    January 22, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Thanks for the link. I can’t stay up that late. Beautiful indeed. (Even better if Trump sees it.)

  72. 72.

    Peale

    January 22, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    @hovercraft: it’s just stupid. we actually are the most powerful member in the UN. And we set it up so that we will always have a veto. Like only four other countries have that veto. But no. Not good enough. So we’ll throw that power away on behalf of Israel and bdcause we don’t want to be lectured about the Muslim ethnic cleansing that they’re planning.

  73. 73.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    the question is do Dems prefer to live with Trump or Pence?

    That will depend on what Trump does to push the Republicans to the point of impeachment.

  74. 74.

    john fremont

    January 22, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    @OGLiberal: There is a video of Trump repeating what a crowd member called Ted Cruz during the primary. Trump said something like, “Ya hear that, she’ called him a pussy.” The crowd cheers of course. Cruz was defending his stance against torture, the only thing I could praise Ted Cruz for.

    Just type in Trump calls Ted Cruz a pussy at You Tube and it auto fills in the search bar.

  75. 75.

    cosima

    January 22, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    @gene108: Yes, I do realise that the right has an irrational hatred of the UN — I attribute it partly to its multiculturalism (baked in through being an entity comprised of evil foreigners), but primarily because it holds its members accountable for their actions. Nobody is the boss of the US. American exceptionalism is, of course, diametrically in opposition to an entity such as the UN.

    What the shitgibbon/Putin and the GOP have planned for American citizens would have the US immediately in violation of UN rules/standards that we have historically (nominally) enforced & upheld as a member. At least on paper. We must not allow our country to be isolated without a fight.

    I plan to phone my reps/sens every single day about this asking ‘what is your position on HR 193?’ and will badger my US family & friends about it as well.

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    January 22, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    @sigaba:

    I’m glad Wallace made it a matter of his word, so it put Preibus on the spot of having to call him a liar to his face.

    Except for the fact that he couldn’t pull it off, and Samuel L. Jackson would go nowhere near Fox, I think it would have been good fun if Wallace had said

    “Does Chris Wallace look like a bitch?”
    “What?”
    “I said, do I look like a bitch?”
    “What?”
    “Say ‘What’ again, I double dare you, motherfucker!”
    “What??”

    and then shot that Rancid Prickus.

  77. 77.

    Roger Moore

    January 22, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @Peale:

    But they can’t let that go.

    If Trump could let stuff go, he never would have run in the first place.

  78. 78.

    rikyrah

    January 22, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @sdhays:
    maybe not national news, but every local paper and tv station covered it. our local news radio station covered it all day.

  79. 79.

    rikyrah

    January 22, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    feel better, B.C.

  80. 80.

    HRA

    January 22, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Yesterday was awesome! I kept hurrying back to BJ for the photos sent here all day. Yay! Someone sent the Buffalo photos.
    Most of all cheering everyone for peaceful protests! We definitely need to capture this energy for the future.

  81. 81.

    rikyrah

    January 22, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    @SFAW:
    I don’t like Schumer, but he’s better than Cuomo, everyday of the week.

  82. 82.

    rikyrah

    January 22, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:
    why should Dems vote to convict?
    this is a GOP problem.

  83. 83.

    Betty Cracker

    January 22, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    @dww44: Thanks for the heads-up! We’ve been watching that band nervously as we get nearer it (currently in SC). Looks like maybe it’s losing steam. I sure hope so.

  84. 84.

    SFAW

    January 22, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    @rikyrah:

    I was kidding about Andy. Although I no longer live in NY, my sense is he’d get killed running against Schumer. And why would he bother? He’s already got a great grift going, the only other job worthy of him would be Preznit.

    ETA: Looks like site is fixed? Thanks Alain!!

  85. 85.

    jake the antisoshul soshulist

    January 22, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    @OGLiberal:
    Apparently Ashley Judd also said mean things about Trump and Ivanka’s relationship which has Facebook on a fainting couch.

  86. 86.

    sdhays

    January 22, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @the Conster, la Citoyenne:

    Trump will never want to be impeached – bad for his ratings – so he’ll turn on the GOP, and have to make a deal with Schumer to avoid conviction on things he already is guilty of, and who knows what that deal may be.

    I feel that this scenario involves a level of self-awareness and competence that I have not yet seen from the Occupant. Also, I think being impeached, especially by Republicans, would feed Trump and his supporters sense of righteous victimhood. He could be a martyr to the cause. But I don’t believe that the Republican Party will impeach a Republican President, no matter how batshit insane. We saw this drama play out last year, and the Republican leadership folded like the piece of cheap toilet paper it is.

    McShame was personally mocked as a loser for getting himself captured in Vietnam, and yet he rode his endorsement of Trump to reelection. I don’t see the “standard” Republican leadership as principled enough or competent enough to even try to “stand up to him”, let alone impeach him. Ryan said Trump said “text book racist” things, and danced and danced while disapproving of the actions of the sack of shit while continuing to endorse him. McConnell hid in his shell. Rmoney messed around until it was too late galvanize any action against Trump and then gave one stupid speech. And then later endorsed Trump. These are not principled men, and they’re riding the beast they created, not leading it.

    The best we can hope for is for is that the dysfunction between Trump and Republicans in Congress results in their failure to accomplish most of their stated goals during the next two years and leads to landslide elections at every level for the Democrats in 2018. Happy to be wrong, but I feel certain that Trump will not be impeached before 2019.

    We shall see, though…

  87. 87.

    chrisanthemama

    January 22, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @cosima: http://www.wtsp.com/news/politics/bill-introduced-to-remove-us-from-united-nations/389900685

  88. 88.

    Evap

    January 22, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    @tobie: go to Russia, go to China,
    Keep your hands off my vagina

  89. 89.

    Hunter

    January 23, 2017 at 7:58 am

    I don’t know if someone has already noted this, but Chicago was expecting around 75-80,000, got 250,000. There was no room downtown to march — Michigan Avenue full, Wabash full, State Street full — but they marched anyway.

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