The federal court for the Eastern District of New York has officially issued an emergency stay, halting President Donald Trump’s executive order banning immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S, The Verge reported Saturday.
The court ruled on a habeas corpus petition filed by the ACLU on behalf of two Iraqi men who were detained at JFK airport Saturday following Trump’s ban. Both men, Hameed Khalid Darweesh and Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshaw have been granted entry to the United States since.
Acting-President Bannon is going to be pissed.
ETA: As a couple of commenters have noted, this stay of the EO is limited to a certain class of individuals and is just the start of the fight, but it’s good news. At least it gives the brave people who are at airports fighting this a solid basis to demand that Dolt 45’s orders stop being enforced here and now.
Baud
Bring on the Articles of Impeachment.
Patricia Kayden
Great news! Every single one of his EOs should be challenged. Make him defend this nonsense.
PaulW
The fight isn’t over.
This is just Round One.
Now we see if Trump ignores the courts or if he does something worse.
Baud
@Patricia Kayden: This is the first one that directly affected real people. All of those will be challenged.
rikyrah
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The ban is not “defeated.” It’s stayed. An important victory, but temporary and not complete. Expect the Administration to push back hard
amk
thugs’ impeachment trigger point was a presidential bj.
what is dems’ trigger point?
Marianne19
Twitter lawyers saying this stay only covers class of people being detained, doesn’t affect entire EO.
PsiFighter37
I think I need to sign up for the ACLU. Funny how they used to be a dirty word in politics 10-15 years ago, but you aren’t hearing that now.
Villago Delenda Est
@PaulW: That is my fear. He may do something very, very stupid and bring this whole thing to a head very quickly.
I don’t think he knows he’s playing with fire. Bannon doesn’t care, he wants to watch the whole world burn.
schrodingers_cat
People go through hell and back to get a GC. It takes years if you don’t have a US citizen relative (spouse/parent) and even then it is not easy. This order just pissed on all legal immigrants, no matter their country of origin telling them that they don’t amount to anything. Their lives, their struggles are worth zilch to this Republican President. There are quite a few GC holders in the armed forces too.
joel hanes
IIRC, we kinda abandoned habeus in the Military Commitssions Act of 2006.
The President or his designee may determine without review that any individual is an “enemy combatant”
and that designation puts that person beyond the reach of a habeus motion. Do I have that right?
I hope I’m wrong ..
SiubhanDuinne
@PaulW:
True enough, but it’s important to acknowledge and celebrate the wins.
Villago Delenda Est
@PsiFighter37: When Poppy Bush called someone a “card carrying member of the ACLU” back in the late 80’s, the ACLU was flooded for requests for cards. They never issued them before.
lamh36
Southern Beale
Just sent them a donation. Thank God for the ACLU.
debbie
I want Trump to stand before the American people and explain why some Arab countries were not included in the ban.
Mike in NC
Does Bannon even bother to bathe on Saturday nights? At least once a month?
lamh36
schrodingers_cat
@Mike in NC: Bathing is so bourgeois.
PsiFighter37
@Patricia Kayden: Asshole can’t defend them because it is fucking clear as day that he’s seeing them for the first time when he is signing them. He has no idea what is in them at all. Flynn and Bannon just write up some garbage and throw it in front of him to show the cameras like the clown he is.
Kristine
@Mike in NC: He does resemble the bottom of a Saturday night ashtray, doesn’t he?
Davis X. Machina
@joel hanes: Hamdi v Rumsfeld limited that power severely in how it can act on citizens. See also Bush v. Boumidienne for non-citizens.
PsiFighter37
@Marianne19: Imagine that was the most urgent piece of action, but I have to imagine the ACLU, CAIR, and others are going to be suing over the entire thing given it blatantly violates legislation that’s been around a while.
debit
Isn’t about time for the Obama “Miss me yet?” signs to appear?
ArchTeryx
Wonder if there’s going to be any legal recourse if 20 million of us are tossed off health insurance? I think that what was done Friday was completely shitty, a straight-up violation of both immigration law and human rights charters, and desperately needed to be smacked down.
But I fear it’s only the beginning. The shiny object meant to take our eyes off much worse coming down the pike.
amk
guess
out of neighborly lovepurely out of spite, the bigoted pos would now cancel trudeau meeting too .Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’ve been meaning to sign up for a monthly donation to the ACLU, I’m gonna do it tonight
(and I’ve been trying to pick an environmental group– anyone know which is the most effective, politically?)
Mike in NC
@Villago Delenda Est: Looking forward to seeing Poppy’s obit in the next few months. He was little better president than his idiot dry-drunk son.
zhena gogolia
Time to set up my monthly ACLU contribution. I joined and gave them a contribution, but this makes it official. They’re where the action is for the moment.
schrodingers_cat
@ArchTeryx: I get it that you are worried about your insurance, but please don’t minimize this as a shiny object. People’s lives are being disrupted. Being uprooted from your life is not a shiny object.
PsiFighter37
@amk: I doubt it…if anything Canada wants to try and minimize collateral damage done to NAFTA, so I would think Trudeau will be as reasonably accommodating as he can without stirring the pot.
But who knows what happens when a loser like Trump gets spanked in the court of public opinion – and the actual courts – by something like this? Methinks he’s going to be bitching a bunch tomorrow on Twitter.
Trentrunner
@Mike in NC: I think you’ll be disappointed in how fawning and glowing the GHWB’s obits will be. If you think otherwise, you don’t know our media.
Jack the Second
Move Fast and Break Things.
You can get a lot done when you utterly don’t care about — and are likely ignorant of — the full ramifications and consequences for your actions. Obama was very careful to figure out exactly what he could get away with in his executive orders; Trump utterly doesn’t care, and will happily direct the executive branch with illegal orders.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Villago Delenda Est:
He does realize he’s in the metaphorical house?
This Banon dude, is he junkie or something; I saw more together folk on skid row a few weeks ago.
debbie
@Mike in NC:
Did you see this below?
Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho
And since we can multi-task, let’s not let anyone who reports get so distracted by this latest and ung*dly horror as to ignore Russian election meddling and current influence.
SFAW
@Mike in NC:
Each to his own. I’d rather see Bannon’s in the next few days.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@schrodingers_cat: To be fair, losing insurance would be literally life-threatening for probably millions of Americans.
Iowa Old Lady
It’s hard to believe, but Trump is even worse that I thought he’d be.
PsiFighter37
The NYT blurb says that it stays folks from getting sent back, but it does NOT mean they can come in.
schrodingers_cat
@(((CassandraLeo))): Can we agree that both these actions are terrible.
Another Scott
@Davis X. Machina: Thank you.
Things are bad enough, and they’re going to get worse, but we don’t need to go overboard with the hyperbole that Bannon is going to throw us all in Gitmo or trash Habeas Corpus. We still have legal protections even though Trump is trying to trash them.
Let’s be clear eyed and clear headed about our rhetoric.
Cheers,
Scott.
Yarrow
@debit: Where is Obama? Didn’t he say he’d speak up if something like a Muslim ban was instituted?
debit
@SFAW: I’m asking seriously, how long does Bannon enjoy his current position before Trump dumps him? He is not going to take this lying down. An 8 point drop in approval in his first week, protests at major airports, his EO being overturned… it’s utterly humiliating and he only did it because someone (Bannon) convinced him it was a slam dunk and would make all the girls horny for him.
Jeffro
@PsiFighter37:
I think I joined the day after Ari fucking Fleischer told Americans to “watch what you say” when criticizing then-president W and his stupid war.
SFAW
@BillinGlendaleCA:
So what? How many of those motherfuckers have run on an implied platform of destroying or severely disabling a functioning government? (Yes, I realize Bannon’s not an elected official, but governmental destruction is why he attached himself to Dolt45.)
Aleta
What happens now to the people who were not allowed to board their plane to the US? Some had their ticket destroyed, some ‘voluntarily’ turned back mid trip … (was their status affected?) How do we help them?
Major Major Major Major
@Jack the Second: Exactly.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@schrodingers_cat: Certainly.
cmorenc
@debit:
I definitely want one for my bumper sticker.
burnspbesq
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I give to Sierra Club and NRDC. and I’m happy. I know people whowill tell you that EDF is better.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Yarrow: Dude’s on a well earned vacation.
rikyrah
(((DeanObeidallah))) @Deanofcomedy
New poll shows 72% of Germans are worried about Trump. Germans are telling us we have seen this movie before and it doesn’t end well
11:14 AM – 28 Jan 2017
JoeSo
ACLU lawyers, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.
O. Felix Culpa
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
My understanding is that the Natural Resources Defense Council is best: https://www.nrdc.org/.
SFAW
@debit:
I don’t think he would ever dump him. Shitgibbon is so clueless and generally full of shit that unless Bannon raped Ivanka in front of Shitgibbon, he’s probably safe.
(((CassandraLeo)))
@rikyrah: To be fair, they were already saying this before the election. It’s too bad more people here didn’t listen to them.
Jeffro
@PaulW:
True and true and true. But when the courts rule against him, it gives folks like customs agents and TSA officers more room to ignore, defy, slow-walk, or “misunderstand” directives. It also gives MoCs more cause to oppose Trump and eventually force him from office. That’s where this is heading…he is into dominance and he has only gotten worse every time he gets more power. Well, now he has ultimate power…but he’s going over the line with it. The courts will oppose him and obviously the majority of the American people oppose him…so it’s a matter of time…
debbie
It just doesn’t stop.
BillinGlendaleCA
@SFAW: That is why I’m not convinced when folk tell me Bannon’s smart, though he might be smart in a relative sense compared to his boss.
lamh36
Jeffro
@ArchTeryx:
They’re all shiny objects, they’re all progressively worse…no point in dismissing any of them as distractions from some bigger nightmare. The nightmare’s already here. Every bit of it needs to be opposed, always, until we’re rid of these scumbags.
Aleta
They broke into the White House and they’re running around high as kites on their own dying brain cells.
Major Major Major Major
@BillinGlendaleCA: He does look an awful lot like a drunk.
O. Felix Culpa
We can multitask: celebrate this victory and recognize that the work is ongoing, in the immigration and refugee arena and so many others, such as defending the ACA, science, education, the arts, etc.
Bannon and co. are barbarians. They have no culture and no humanity. It’s like living through the sack of Rome.
NotMax
Radical presidential terrorism.
cmorenc
@Iowa Old Lady:
He’s proven worse in his first 9 days in office than I thought he’d be over his entire first 9 months in office, and I already anticipated a nightmare shitshow the night he won election.
chris
Everyone, please bookmark this list of Presidential Actions. Check it every day because they don’t take the weekend off. Dawg knows what’s coming tomorrow.
O. Felix Culpa
@Iowa Old Lady:
I know, right? He’s exceeded all expectations of venality…and it’s just week 1. I’m glad for last week’s March though. It raised my fighting spirit. Stay angry and man the barricades!
Aleta
@Yarrow: I hope he’s on the phone with other Constitutional scholar types talking case law or judges or something. And Michelle something similar.
SFAW
@debbie:
What the MSM needs to do is run a disclaimer before ever time Trump make a speech or is interviewed (or whatever):
“Based on careful analysis and research over the last NN months, it has been determined that [Deadbeat Shitgibbon] will by lying at least 90 percent of the time in the following interview/speech/segment. It is quite possible — in fact, highly likely — that NOTHING he states as factual will actually be true.”
I’ve said it before: he has not intentionally made a true statement since I-don’t-know-when.
Jeffro
@Iowa Old Lady:
Yes, absolutely. He has gotten even worse with every step, with every increase in power. He was a near-joke at the start of the primaries…then started winning and got even more obnoxious. He got to the ‘finals’ and was throwing so much crazy out there, many thought that Kasich or Cruz were going to win the nom. Then he wins the nomination and goes berserk attacking the family of a dead soldier and a former beauty queen. And so on, and so on…
Now, here he is, drunk with power, with Flynn and Bannon whispering in his ear constantly, existing off of wacko TV news and crap like Breitbart and Alex Jones. He’s got the GOP (Ryan, McConnell) by the balls, Putin has him by the balls, and the majority of the country is doing things it has never done before…like swamp airports in the middle of the night, fed up with his shit.
Knowing that Trump’s only way to respond to “attacks” (in his view) is to double down, he’s going to go nuts again all week next week. I don’t know exactly what that looks like, but it seems likely that he will lash out at “Obama judges” and political correctness and what not. I can see even more executive orders coming out…
…and in the meantime, the drumbeat grows louder for GOP MoCs to step up and oppose this madness, business execs start complaining, the Indivisible campaign continues, even more marches are scheduled, more media folks openly report on the “president”s state of mind (they’re already reporting on him acting like a petulant child!)…
…to which I say, good. Keep calling your MoCs about every little thing but above all encourage them to oppose Trump 100%. Join the ACLU. Think about the next march. And if you have a creative way to shame a national R for going along with all this crap, fire away!
Corner Stone
@PsiFighter37:
To who?
zhena gogolia
@NotMax:
You said it!
amk
@Yarrow: really?
debbie
@SFAW:
I-don’t-know-when would be back in the mid-70s, I think.
Corner Stone
@Yarrow: Do not be looking for Obama or any institution or dedicated establishmentarian to save us. Obama isn’t going to.
It’s going to be us or nothing.
SFAW
@BillinGlendaleCA:
First of all, Charlie Gordon is smart relative to Trump, so that’s no “recommendation.”
I’m pretty sure Bannon has thinks all set up for himself, perhaps including being the “savior” leading the army for his Fourth Reich, after the American government collapses. Not saying that I think the government is going to collapse; just that Bannon is probably planning for it, with him as the new Fuehrer.
Davis X. Machina
@Corner Stone: Left-wingers hated their free-speech support for Nazis and such, but loved them on search-and-seizure, eg.
SFAW
@debbie:
Far be it from me to disagree with you.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@burnspbesq: @O. Felix Culpa: Thanks. NRDC is where I was leaning
Anne Laurie
@Kristine:
The ever-dainty Kathleen Parker referred to Bannon as “someone who looks like he slept in his clothes, possibly on a street grate.”
Anne Laurie
@debit:
Hell, I want a giant Hillary Rodham Clinton “Miss me yet?” billboard erected where Susan Sarandon has to see it multiple times a day!
Omnes Omnibus
@Yarrow: Are we really going to “I blame Obama” on this?
hovercraft
@debit:
Those signs became apropos the minute the networks called the election for this moron. Almost everything he’s done since he was elected made me ashamed of my country for containing enough stupid people to do this to us and the world.
The answer is YES, YES, YES, WE MISS YOU. I WANT TO BEG YOU TO COME BACK, but Michelle would beat the crap out of me.
Thank god for the ACLU and the courts.
Anne Laurie
@ArchTeryx:
I suspect Paul Ryan was planning to save this for another Friday afternoon. Good news for our side: This has been a warning for every political & media outlet to put extra staff on the weekend shifts.
Like a cowpox infection that protects the body politic against more dangerous smallpox plagues, I’m hoping!
Jeffro
I have to believe that somewhere, President Obama is allowing himself an 8th and 9th almond, and sighing…”yeah…I guess it’s about time to get back in the fight”…
…but even if he doesn’t (he will!), it’s heartening to see how many (here and nationally) are finding new inspiration to resist this crazy un-American crap!
Jeffro
@Corner Stone: Agreed (see #87) – it really is up to us!
Corner Stone
@Davis X. Machina: I remember that differently.
Jeffro
@Anne Laurie: I’m starting to wonder if “our” info/oppo will keep getting dropped on Mondays, and “theirs” on Fridays.
Let’s hustle up a bit with that counter-intelligence report CI folks – too many in the GOP are having trouble finding their balls these days
hovercraft
@Iowa Old Lady:
You know, I thought he’d be terrible, but I also thought that at least his desire to be loved would stop some of his most reckless impulses, but it’s the exact opposite.
I guess if you stop and think about it, the further along he’s gotten on this journey to the presidency, the worse he became. The media kept telling us that he would moderate every time he reached a new milestone, but the opposite was true. He is a petulant brat who “did it his way”, he’s ignored conventional wisdom at every turn, and he won anyway, so he still feels he can do as he pleases, and he will still win. The difference is now he’s no longer a candidate, his words and actions have real consequences to real people. His supporters may love that he’s doing all these things he said he’d do, but for the rest of us, he’s confirming every fear we had. The Theresa May’s of the world may want to be friends with him, but they have a domestic audience that is appalled by him. I can only imagine the local broadcasts all over the world with heartbreaking stories of people stranded because of this order. I guess the G7 and other international confabs around the world are about to become huge protest zones. He thinks he’s unpopular now, he aint seen nothing yet.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Ew.
Vhh
@Another Scott: Too late for sternly worded letters. What made the diff today were outraged citizens mobbing airports and contributing to the ACLU via cell phone while the ACLU lawyers interrupted a judge’s weekend. By the end of the day, Dem senators, congressmen and governors were out there too, and 4 or 5 GOP senators were loudly opposed. A real public humiliation for Trump,who, we now know, will double down. Meanwhile, CNN, the WaPo, and even the NYT have finally found the jars they buried their nuts during the reign of W, and are getting used to using words like “lies” and “false” on ledes. I am hoping they learn to use “chaos”, “incompetent”, “unconstitutional” and “illegal” before millions die or the world
abandons the dollar as a reserve currency. Let us jope thay even if this notthe beginning of the end, it is the end of the beginning.
Another Scott
@Vhh: Cosign. ;-)
Cheers,
Scott.