My Canadian passport is currently in the hands of the Iranian Interests Section at the Pakistan Embassy in Washington. I’ve been approved for am Iranian visa, so now I am just waiting for them to glue it in my passport so I can go to Iran on February 24th.
My understanding is that Iran has, or is considering, a ban on U.S. citizens entering Iran. Obviously, legally, this doesn’t affect me as a Canadian. But I am a little worried about what will happen when I come back to the U.S.. I’m afraid that some ignoramus, Trump-supporting border agent will have a problem with me, a green card holder, coming to the U.S. after being in Iran. I’ve been thinking about whether or not the trip is worth the stress.
I certainly won’t put my fears and issues up against the horrible problems being experienced by good people from the many countries that have explicit bans. But this is an issue that extends far beyond the people in the seven countries the ban applies to.
Additionally, my husband, who is Indonesian (and also a green card holder), is currently in Guatemala for an extra long weekend. He is due back Tuesday morning. I’m worried that he will be detained either in Guatemala or when he gets back to the U.S. because he is from a so-called “Muslim country.” We’ve contacted the immigration lawyer I used during my green card process, and she tells us to call her if anything out of the ordinary happens when he comes back.
I wouldn’t normally worry about it, but god only knows what impulsive EO Trump/Bannon could issue in the next three days. I was hoping to spend the weekend painting our condo. I’ll be spending it worrying instead. What a clusterf**k of a weekend.
I’m sure there are a few readers here who are going through issues far more serious than I am because of this stupidity. You have my sympathies. Best of luck.
P.S.: I donated $100 to the ACLU today. My way of helping people I don’t know deal with problems they’re going to experience that I couldn’t possibly fathom. If you can spare it, I’m sure they’re going to have a shit ton of expenses over the next four years – at least. You can donate here.
Trentrunner
I see on cable news that the debate is now retreating to “Whose countries’ immigrants should we ban?”
NONE OF THEM. Gah.
? Martin
Since General Stupidity is a tag, and because I ignore all thread topics anyway.
PsiFighter37
Fuck all the special snowflakes who couldn’t get over Bernie or Jill, and the stoners who loved Gary Johnson. Fuck them all.
mouse tolliver
A legal question. Since Trump seems to be giving preferential treatment to Muslim countries were he does business, would people impacted by the travel ban now have standing in that other lawsuit against Trump?
Mary G
You shouldn’t have to be going through this, Michael, nor your husband. I tweeted to the president last night that he makes me ashamed to be American. This gets more and more horrifying the more it sinks in and the more specific situations we hear about.
I highly recommend following J.K. Rowling on Twitter. Her putdowns are amazing.
bystander
There is no longer any argument that there is a single, solitary repub worth 2 cents. Not a single one.
SiubhanDuinne
Probably quite true — and yet we all need to see and hear anecdotal accounts of how these EOs affect ordinary people around the world. So thank you for sharing your concerns about your own travel situation, and your worries about your husband’s return to the US.
I hope it all works out for both of you, without incident. Please keep us posted.
gene108
Have documentation about what you did in Iran, such as receipts and any itinerary you had for your trip.
Documents are not a foolproof remedy to a pissed off CBP agent, who is having a bad day and decides no immigrants are getting into his/her country, but it gives you chance, if you get pulled aside for extra questioning.
Michael Demmons
@SiubhanDuinne: I certainly am not concerned, except peripherally, about my trip to Iran. But I’m telling you, if Halef can’t get back from Guatemala, then I’ll cash out my 401k to deal with it if I have to!
bystander
You want stupidity? Trump Tower residents are angry!
Have a box of tissues at hand. What those people have been enduring is unimaginable.
? Martin
Here’s another place where this is going to go off the rails. From the Washington Post:
Could be coincidental, but Trump has invited this speculation and it will dog him and every decision like this. Congress is going to drown in constituent outrage over questions like this, and eventually they’re going to decide it’s not worth it any longer.
Lyrebird
Yeah I also gave to the ACLU today – iiuc they were involved (as were Reps Nadler & Vasquez) in getting the father of the young medical patient sprung from detention in NY…
This move from the Republican administration is BAD for honest people and GREAT NEWS for terrorist recruiters, aaaaaaaaaagh!!!!
BlueDWarrior
@? Martin: Honestly, If we were playing Twenty Questions about any policy Republican President Trump proposes, Questions 1-10 should just be “How does his benefit him and his family financially?” on repeat, and Questions 11-20 should be various derivations of the first ten.
Brachiator
@? Martin:
Here’s the other side of this. From Southern Beale, earlier:
Political Theater with sad consequences by those affected by Trump’s actions.
Another Scott
I’ve mentioned before that the woman who has cut my hair for years has been visiting her family in Tehran. I don’t know if she’s back home – I sure hope so. I sent her a text, but no word yet. I don’t know her citizenship status, but from the sounds of it, it doesn’t matter as far as this evil EO is concerned.
Trump is a monster, and he and his enablers and hangers-on need to be drummed out of office yesterday.
:-(
Thanks for your posts, Michael. Best of luck with your husband and on your planned trip.
Cheers,
Scott.
Kristine
@? Martin: I asked on Twitter whether a country could be removed from the banned list if they offered to do a property deal.
Aleta
Statement by Seth Moulton, MA Rep
https://moulton.house.gov/legislative-center/moulton-condemns-trumps-executive-order-on-refugees/
GregB
Bin Laden and 15 of 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
The current head of Al Qaeda is from Egypt.
Neither one on the list.
Both have Trump financial interests.
schrodingers_cat
Are reporters asking Republican Congressional representatives about this?
? Martin
Getting some corporate pushback.
Aeromexico
Johnny Walker
That Aeromexico ad is a punch in the face…
Mary G
Many protests already going on now at terminal 4 at JFK airport, plus more planned for DC, Boston, SF in the next few days. The picture on this tweet made me weepy:
Still more good Americans than bad, but we have let their voices outshout us for too long now.
Major Major Major Major
@Mary G: when did Harry turn somebody into a frog?
debbie
@schrodingers_cat:
I’m working on a very, very angry email to the Republican Senator of my state (Portman). The Democrat (Brown) I don’t have to worry about.
? Martin
In the last hour or so 3 GOPs have spoken out against the ban – Dent, Sasse, Amash.
The dam is starting to break.
? Martin
@debbie: Send one to Brown as well, thanking him for being on the right side of this issue. From the Indivisible Guide:
We aren’t going to lose Brown, but people are good at speaking up about things they dislike and bad at praising the things they like. That results in only getting pushback and not hearing how many voters have their back. He needs to know that you have his back – it’ll allow him to argue even more forcefully.
J R in WV
Interestingly, we got a mailer about an archaeological tour to Iran just yesterday. The places to visit are amazingly old and interesting – but I am both leery of the government of Iran AND the government of the US at this point. Your husband may have issues returning from Guatemala – I haven’t read the “Executive Order” there’s a list of specific countries including Iran but not Indonesia nor Malaysia, so probably not, since he isn’t from a “banned” country and is returning home.
If I were you I wouldn’t put any more money into a trip to Iran, even though you’re a Canadian citizen – to much of the world that’s just America North. So being there could result in being detained in a nation with no real legal system as we understand it. Then there’s getting back in to your life here, coming from a country most certainly on the banned list, not being a citizen of the US.
And if I were you, I would jump on the painting around the place, that’s kind of mindless, but a positive accomplishment – productive yet you can stop at any edge or corner if you need to do something else. Better than reading stuff on line that just infuriates you more.
I’ve been reading escapist SciFi novels to escape from current geopolitical reality, but just now I came to a point where a President was killed by a terrorist strike by people able to slide from one world to another, this time with small special weapons. They were pawns of the Vice President, who was at “an undisclosed location” at the time DC was hit. Not so good a thing to be reading right now. Not really. Fiction with too much reality in it, by far.
Will try to finish it up later on, once I’m completely over-dosed on current reality to the point where that novel seems amusing and low-key…..
Mary G
@Major Major Major Major: Apparently that is one of the “alternate facts” going around the right wing echo chamber. She says she has spent half her tweets today disabusing them of this and that Hermione was the nerd, not Harry.
I knew people personally who would not let their kids read HP because it was indoctrination for Satanism. Embarrassing and confusing when later Harry became a metaphor for Jesus on part of the right.
BlueDWarrior
@? Martin: As much as we hate Republicans and their policies (at least in the scope of politics), some of them at least have the goddamned good sense to know when not to do something because the backlash would be easy and predictable to see coming.
Too bad you can’t even say that much of a lot of Rep. office holders, Trump of course included.
PPCLI
@? Martin: Amash’s mother is a Syrian immigrant (Christian, but still). As always, GOP’ers will speak up if it touches them personally, though generally not otherwise.
Credit to all three nonetheless.
ms_canadada
So proud of my Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau
@JustinTrudeau 2h2 hours ago
To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada
His father, would be proud of him.
SiubhanDuinne
@? Martin:
Both links are to the Johnny Walker ad — which is good, but now I really want to see Aeromexico. Please to fix :-)
? Martin
@SiubhanDuinne: Whoops. Let’s try this again.
Aeromexico ad
? Martin
@PPCLI: No argument, but getting the GOP to oppose Trump will be a watershed moment. Once they’ve broken ranks, and party discipline lies in ruins, if nothing else things will slow down. I’m not expecting anything good to come from this, but dissent in the ranks will be immeasurably helpful right now, and the sooner it happens the better.
Michael Demmons
@ms_canadada: Awesome!
SiubhanDuinne
I am really missing Amir Khalid’s presence in these conversations. He would add so much.
Please, dear Amir, if you’re lurking (as you indicated you were several weeks ago), please just post a quick comment to say you’re okay. And come back full strength soon. We miss you.
Aleta
@ms_canadada: What a lowlying swamp T has brought with him: people fleeing religious persecution in the US.
? Martin
@SiubhanDuinne: Agreed 100%.
SiubhanDuinne
@? Martin:
Oh, man, that was worth the wait. Just terrific. Goosebumps, and my eyes seem to have a little dust in them….
Major Major Major Major
@Mary G: girls can’t be nerds, though! Sheesh.
Ruckus
@? Martin:
Thing is Brown sends me emails every day, some asking for money. He represents a state 2500 miles away but wants my support, he can listen to my bitching as well.
Rommie
At this point I’m leaning toward the view that Trump *wants* somebody to attack, just so he can go all-out President Ren. If it shuts down the “resistance” so much the better.
Gin & Tonic
@PPCLI: I probably disagree with Ben Sasse on most substantive issues, but occasionally he shows that he understands fundamental principles.
Sab
@debbie: I call Brown’sugar office weekly to thank him .
trollhattan
@? Martin:
Nice, and nice touch showing the Boeing 787 at the end.
SiubhanDuinne
@ms_canadada:
@Michael Demmons:
For the most part, I am perfectly happy to be retired from the Government of Canada. I was worn down (among other things — not exclusively) by years of working for the Harper Government, but the minute Justin Trudeau was elected I regretted that I would never have the opportunity to do a job of work on his behalf. And although I’m not a Canadian myself, I tend to think like a Canadian on any number of fronts, and share your pride in your (our?) P.M.
Major Major Major Major
@Gin & Tonic: I get more of a “Sasse 2020” vibe than a “principled” vibe from him, but I’ll take the help for now.
The Lodger
@J R in WV: If you’re reading Charles Stross, he does not do light escapism. You may want to lay off the series for a few weeks.
Sab
@Sab: I hate autocorrect. “Sugar” in #42 was supposed to be “s”.
rikyrah
Eric Schmeltzer
@JustSchmeltzer
CALL Dem leaders. Tell them #MuslimBan = no more working w Trump. Period.
SCHUMER 202-224-6542
PELOSI 202-225-4965
Please spread word.
chris
@ms_canadada: Good for him. I’m still, mostly, glad I voted for him.
The Lodger
@Sab: Thanks for the correction. I almost wrote Mick Jagger.
rikyrah
Trita Parsi Verified account
@tparsi
I want to repeat: Green card holders were handcuffed, their social media was reviewed, and they were asked their views on Trump
#MuslimBan
SiubhanDuinne
@Sab:
I’m guessing that was autocorrect having its amusing way with you, but it made me laugh.
chris
@? Martin: Excellent! That should leave a mark. Wait… it’ll go right over their heads.
SiubhanDuinne
@trollhattan:
Ooh, I didn’t pick up on that. Yes, extra nice touch.
batgirl
Some idiot news announcer on CNN just said that if you are pissing off people on twitter from both sides then you are doing your job. God we are fucked.
PPCLI
I wouldn’t go if I were you. Border Agents have virtually unlimited discretion to bar non-citizens from entry.
PsiFighter37
@rikyrah: Wonder how many of them said Trump could go pound sand. That would be my immediate reaction, which would have me on a plane the wrong direction.
Wonder what the GOP cowards in Congress are saying about this. Only thing I have seen so far was from Paul Ryan, who of course was being the spineless turdstain that he is.
J R in WV
@The Lodger:
Well, yeah. But I’m into the third volume of the Merchant Princes trilogy, so I’ll have to finish it now, don’t ya know… I’ve read all of his stuff, the Laundry books, now I’ve got his latest book, which is a 20 years later look at the Merchant universe.
He rewrote the 6 slim novels into 3 more substantial novels, quite a bit better than the original work. I would be interested in how much time it took to rework that series, compared to write it the first time. But I don’t want to jump into the new novel without finishing the big 3rd volume of Merchant Princes. I love some of the characters, they’re constrained by their universe, struggling to do the right thing, but the constraints limit their possibilities.
I can read with a cat on my lap and a snoring lab beside me, so that helps somewhat.
Funny that you picked out the author (and presumably the books) with one scant paragraph of description of one scene. He’s quite a guy, Charlie Stross…
SiubhanDuinne
@chris:
Saw what you did there.
Elizabelle
Have been watching the Mary Tyler Moore shows on the Sundance Chanel. (All last season episodes today.)
Jesus. We have just elected Ted Baxter.
Without a lot of his redeeming qualities.
mike in dc
There’s no need to overanalyze Trump or try to figure out whether the flurry of objectionable stuff is a “strategy”. It’s not that complicated. Almost everything he does policy wise will be bad to terrible and must be opposed, point blank, holding nothing back. There’s no “we have to pick our battles”. Democratic politicians have to fight everything, and those opposed to Trump have to oppose everything.
rikyrah
BostonTweet Verified account
@BostonTweet
BostonTweet Retweeted Samira Asgari
Iranian scientist bound for Boston to begin working on a cure for diabetes at Harvard was barred entry into US today
ms_canadada
@chris: I’m an NDP supporter, but Justin’s doing a good job, except for the pipeline crap. My local MP is David Christopherson, who is very much high profile here in my riding of Hamilton Centre (City by the Bay!)
HeleninEire
@Elizabelle: Great analogy. Loved, loved, loved that show.
rikyrah
Eric Geller Verified account
@ericgeller
For those keeping track: the White House evidently kept key State, DHS, and DOJ personnel out of the loop.
chris
@J R in WV: I assume you read his predictions for 2017? Now I have to go back and see if all this was in there.
rikyrah
Sahil Kapur Verified account
@sahilkapur
.@AJentleson, former Reid aide, calls on Dems to grind the Senate to a halt to resist Trump
rikyrah
ISIS Will Use Trump to Recruit
January 28, 2017
Five current or former members of ISIS tell BuzzFeed that President Trump “will shorten the time it takes for us to achieve our goals.”
One reason they cited for this optimism was Trump’s divisiveness within America, which they believed would weaken the country… ISIS also sees Trump as an ideal enemy for propaganda purposes, the former and current members of the group said, believing that his campaign’s heated rhetoric about Muslims will help the extremist group with recruitment by reinforcing its central narrative that America and the West are at war with Islam.
Major Major Major Major
@rikyrah: and fired the rest.
rikyrah
Micah Grimes Verified account
@MicahGrimes
Pres. Trump has surrounded himself with Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office.
Ian Millhiser Verified account
@imillhiser
Ian Millhiser Retweeted Micah Grimes
Makes sense. Jackson was a virulent racist who engaged in near-genocide while tanking the economy due to his own ignorance.
sharl
@Elizabelle:
Ain’t THAT the truth. At least that character was kinda charming in his incompetence. A couple of the funnier MTM episodes involved Mary and the rest of the news staff conspiring behind Baxter’s back to limit the damage he did.
No such luck with Trump’s crew.
SiubhanDuinne
@ms_canadada:
Didn’t know you were a Hamiltonian! My aunt and uncle lived in Waterdown for years (before he died and she moved to Owen Sound); he was Chair of the Music Department at Mac from 1959-early ’70s. And my favourite Canadian writer, Lawrence Hill, lives in Hamilton and I always try to visit him when I’m in town. Love Hamilton (yes, Mnemosyne, that one too). I need to stop by again this summer maybe, and perhaps we can do a Canadian BJ meetup.
Yarrow
@? Martin: That’s a good ad, but it’s from May 2016, so not really a new response after the inauguration.
Yarrow
@rikyrah: I saw this tweet earlier, but I also saw people ask for confirmation and didn’t see it confirmed by others. Have you seen more confirmation than just this one claim?
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
On what, specifically? I assume the immigrant EO, but the past year has taught me not to assume much of anything.
bystander
What is the legal basis for recasting our entire immigration policy with an executive order? I would think only in an emergency, but if so, what’s the new emergency since he took office? Unless of course he’s trying to precipitate one.
Yarrow
@Elizabelle: Disagree. Ted Baxter was mostly harmless and sweet. Dumb as a post but generally harmless. Trump is not harmless nor is he sweet.
Eljai
@rikyrah:
Earlier today Philip Rucker at the Washington Post was tweeting that the White House worked with DHS for several weeks according to a senior admin official. Yep, they lied. Again.
rikyrah
odp
@dyllyp
I told this story about #refugees a couple years ago on Veterans Day with a humorous slant. I’m going to tell it again today, unfiltered
odp
@dyllyp
Years ago, on my first deployment to Iraq, I befriended a local boy, Brahim, who would quickly become one of our interpreters.
odp
@dyllyp
He was able to do so, bc the turnover rate for local nationals work with us was enormous. And not bc they quit, bc they were killed.
odp
@dyllyp
Besides the money, we were able to get them to volunteer with us by promising them refugee status in the U.S. if they completed a tour.
odp
@dyllyp
(But really, I think the chain of command knew that most interpreters wouldn’t make it through their contracts alive.)
odp
@dyllyp
Anyway, Brahmin would tell me about all the family members he lost in the conflict–brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, all of em.
odp
@dyllyp
He told me how he lived in a one bedroom house with 7 people. No clean water, power every other week because of the rolling blackouts, etc.
odp
@dyllyp
He told me how they did have the basic necessities most days and that him volunteering w/ us was one of their sole sources of income.
odp
@dyllyp
One day, I went down to the PX and bought him $20, maybe $30 worth of toiletries. Nbd really. Just didn’t want dude to smell like shit.
odp
@dyllyp
When I presented it to him, he cried. Literally bawled his eyes out and said he give his life for me. OVER SOAP. Completely sobering.
odp
@dyllyp
He spent the next year acting as our liaison, providing us with valuable intel, essentially saving our lives on a daily basis. At 16.
odp
@dyllyp
At the end of my tour in Iraq, I knew I was leaving him to die. I knew I’d never see him again. Was just kinda like “take care kid.
odp
@dyllyp
Fast forward 5-years. And I’m flying home to Phoenix to bury my little brother who was brutally murdered. (Gun violence is another subj.)
odp
@dyllyp
I remember the day like it was yesterday. I cried my eyes out all the way from Hawaii to Arizona. Fucking brutal.
odp
@dyllyp
Spend 6 years fighting wars and you don’t expect to get a phone call that your kid brother was randomly murdered in a carjacking.
odp
@dyllyp
Anyway, I land in Arizona and it’s pouring. Hop off and walk down to the taxi stand. (Uber’s weren’t really a thing in 2013.)
odp
@dyllyp
I get in the first taxi that pulls up and we’re off. Driver starts to make the standard small talk. Where you from, what do you do, etc.
odp
@dyllyp
I tell him I just got out of the military and blah blah. He says “oh great. I love the military. You ever travel anywhere?”
odp
@dyllyp
Tell him, “Sure. Been to every corner of the globe. Africa, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.” He says “Oh! I’m from Iraq! What part?”
odp
@dyllyp
I say “Kirkuk, mostly.” And he says “Im from Kirkuk.” And then gets really fucking quiet. Like awkwardly quiet. Making me nervous quiet.
odp
@dyllyp
My first thought is I killed one of his family members and he recognizes me. And now im literally getting ready to bail out of the cab.
odp
@dyllyp
I see him staring at me in the rear view. I can see the anguish in his eyes. And then he starts to PULL THE CAB TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
odp
@dyllyp
He stops, turns around and says, “Dylan, you remember me? It’s me, Brahim.” And I’m like wtffffff. And just start sobbing.
odp
@dyllyp
We got out of that taxi off the I10 and Rural and hugged it out on a bridge in the rain on some Notebook shit. I didn’t ever care, man.
odp
@dyllyp
So I’m like WTF ARE YOU DOING IN FUCKING ARIZONA?! HOW? MAN WHAT? And he’s like I did my 4 years and they gave me a visa.
odp
@dyllyp
They gave him some cash and a 1 way ticket to the States. Asked him where he wanted to go, and he said where the weather is like Iraq.
odp
@dyllyp
So they sent him to Arizona.
odp
@dyllyp
5 years after I left him in Iraq and a few days after my younger brother was violently murdered, the universe linked us up again.
odp
@dyllyp
Brahim literally saved my life, twice.
odp @dyllyp 5h5 hours ago
Lost one brother, and got another one back. #refugees
Another Scott
Ghost_to_Most posted this downstairs: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-visa-ban-blocking-visitors-to-us-will-be-applied-to-those-with-dual-nationalities-state-department/
Be careful, Michael.
Cheers,
Scott.
Comrade Scrutinizer
@batgirl: Glib fuckers.
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
I can’t even. Wow. What a story.
chris
@ms_canadada: I am far east of you and somewhere to the left of the NDP. Tom “balanced budget” Mulcair lost my vote with that stupidity and the local Liberal had the best polling against the longtime Con incumbent. She won.
The pipelines? We are not amused.
ms_canadada
@SiubhanDuinne: That would be great! Youngest spawn is at MAC studying History & Indigenous Studies. Daughter and spouse live in LA (Silver Lake area). We’re heading there on Feb. 19, hoping to arrange a BJ meet-up there. (w/Bill, Ruckus – not sure who else lives in the area) Let me know when you’re around. We live by the Bay in the North End.
stibbert
What’s gonna happen when the targeted nations institute retaliatory travel bans, & large numbers of US nationals are stranded or detained overseas? I fear for these folks, who have no local equivalent of the ACLU to fight for them.
sharl
@rikyrah: I immediately had to track that down and retweet it myself. It’s not the only such story out there either; there are so many. But he told his story so well within the limitations of Twitter.
Thanks for putting it here.
Link to that tweet stream, for anyone interested.
Renie
@stibbert: already happening. Iran is doing it. that ends this thread
schrodingers_cat
If you are not a citizen don’t leave the country if you don’t have to. There is too much uncertainty.
ETA: That seems to be the consensus among immigration lawyers.
chris
@SiubhanDuinne: That would be fun! I have to visit family in Caledon at some point and a meetup would be great. Just need lots of notice because I’m 2000km away.
Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes
@J R in WV:
We actually had Iran as a backup to Egypt this summer. At the rate this is going, the whole Muslim world will be in flames (including Jordan, Motocco, Dubai, Saudi, Qatar) within the next two weeks and neither trip will be possible.
Yarrow
@schrodingers_cat: Yes. I think even green card holders from places that aren’t targeted are wise to wait to travel. Even white people from European countries. Too much is happening right now. Don’t travel if you don’t have to.
jenn
@rikyrah: Thank you. I’m having difficulty typing through my sobbing now, but thank you.
Yarrow
@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I wouldn’t be surprised if leisure travel outside the country for Americans is seriously curtailed.
Another Scott
@rikyrah: Thank you for posting that.
Trump is such a monster, and those who enable him are monsters as well…
Cheers,
Scott.
MazeDancer
All the pictures of the growing protests at airports across the country are so heart warming. People chanting. People applauding international arrivals. There are armies of lawyers who just showed up to volunteer pro bono.
Really, flashback to the Vietnam protests hard to stop from happening.
But this video of people at the Howard Beach subway stop clogging the stairs, toting signs, all just pouring forth to protest at JFK caused some definite welling of tears. Yay, Real America! Coast Elites for Freedom!
Michael Demmons
@MazeDancer: Just saw a tweet about a bunch of lawyers gathering at Dulles in DC to help people. Awesome!
ms_canadada
@chris: Hey chris, you’re not that far from me…let’s try to meet up at some point.
chris
@ms_canadada: When I go to Caledon that’d be great. Right now I live in the Maritimes, got out of Ontario at the turn of the century.