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  1. 1.

    Joy in FL

    I joined the ACLU tonight. So proud of the protesters, striking cab drivers, lawyers at the airports. My heart goes out to those in this limbo created to cause pain and fear.

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    Mike Breen
    ‏@M_Breen

    Iraq vet w/ 4 Purple Hearts, drove two hours to Dulles w/ his son.

    Nobody called him. He just came. Why?

    “Not what I fought for.”

  3. 3.

    debbie

    The more tweets I read, the more I get confused. Is the stay only for the people being detained or does it include the 7 banned countries?

  5. 5.

    zhena gogolia

    @debbie:

    I don’t know the answer to your question, but I’m getting the impression it’s a limited effect. But to me that’s less important than the spontaneous protesting, and the fact that for the first time there has been SOME judicial pushback. The legislative branch isn’t helping us so far.

  7. 7.

    JMG

    I gave $100 to ACLU tonight and will give more. Virtue shouldn’t have to be its own reward. Stay is only for those detained now, as I understand it, but future hearings could expand it or get rid of it.

  11. 11.

    JMG

    Paul Ryan would throw any one us into an oven if rich people got a tax cut. A super priority of the Dems has to be a challenger for him in 2018. No matter how right wing they are, Americans don’t like weasel cowards.

  13. 13.

    CaseyL

    @debbie: Looks like it’s only for people who have already arrived. Immediate crisis averted – for now. Pending crises (including the refugees and Iraqi citizens who helped US armed forces) continues.

    But I think, if Congress doesn’t act, the ACLU and courts will.

    I will donate again, and just wish I had bucketsful of money to shovel at them.

    Donations should also go to the organizations that work directly on immigrant rights, too. Here in Washington we have the NW Immigrant Rights Project; I’ll send some money their way, too.

  16. 16.

    lamh36

    @TomPerez

    “We have refugees that are vetted more than the Trump cabinet. We’ve got to be out there defending them.”
    —Tom on #MuslimBan #DNCforum

  17. 17.

    rikyrah

    cbsMcCormick Verified account
    ‏@cbsMcCormick

    CBS News: US AMB to Iraq has warned Trump Adm the Iraqi Government is considering banning all American passport holders entry to the country

  18. 18.

    rikyrah

    @Luvvie
    These Trump-grets people. I cannot muster sympathy for them. The man said who he was and what he’d do. Now you wanna regret your vote? Oh.

  19. 19.

    JMG

    Good day for us today. America isn’t the shit show Trump says it is. He has no shame, but most people do. This will be a battle for years, but a win’s a win. One game at a time.

  21. 21.

    Mike J

    Hank Green, youtuber, bro of The Fault in Our Stars author John, is donating $5 for every hand written message of support tweeted to him.

    Of course he and John went on for months and months about how it’s too bad Republicans and Democrats are both so intransigent and that’s why things are bad. Maybe tweet him a sign if you have a minute.

  22. 22.

    JMG

    Do Zuckerberg and whatever nitwit is running Twitter today understand control of social media is the next move for the Trump administration?

  25. 25.

    rk

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Where are the Republican Congressional Representatives, they need to be on record.

    Do they really need to be on record? I think it’s already well established that they’re a bunch of cowardly morons along with the assorted racists and half wits who vote for them. The records pretty clear on that.

  26. 26.

    lamh36

    @Luvvie
    Be clear. The @ACLU won a temporary stay. This will be fought hard. Do not stop protesting. Do not sigh in relief. Fight must continue.

    @laurenacasper
    This only applies to people landing here… people are still being pulled off planes overseas. It’s not even close to over yet.

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    Josh Dorner @JoshDorner

    BREAKING: Second judge issues order banning removal of green card holders being detained at Dulles. Also requires access to lawyers

  32. 32.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    This has to be a record for having an executive order emergency-stayed.

    Guess we get to find out real quick if DJT has it in him to pull an Andrew Jackson and go full dictator.

  34. 34.

    randy khan

    Glad – and entirely unsurprised – to hear that my shiny new ACLU membership contribution is being used well.

    McAuliffe is Exhibit A for why people shouldn’t listen to Clinton haters. He’s been a very progressive governor, especially by Virginia standards, who has consistently pushed for Medicaid expansion, has found a way to restore felons’ voting rights, has reversed anti-abortion regulations, and done much more. This is entirely consistent with his record.

  35. 35.

    Keith P.

    Houston Bush Intercontinental Airport is going to be INSANE this week. Protests plus Super Bowl Week = GREAT JOB, MR. PRESIDENT!

    In related news, who is going to be the first cabinet member to resign? And how long can they hold off doing it?

  36. 36.

    randy khan

    So just for kicks I decided I would try to send an email to Paul Ryan’s office tonight. They don’t take emails from people who don’t have zip codes in the district. What a weasel.

  38. 38.

    rk

    @debit:

    Not only do I want them to suffer, I want their families and future generations to suffer as well. I’m kind of starting to understand blood feuds now.

  40. 40.

    ThresherK (tablet)

    Hey, I’ve been out of electronic touch for 12 hours. Did I miss anything?

    Seriously, waiting for Politico to tell us how Trump will WinTheMorning tomorrow, let alone the week.

  42. 42.

    Peale

    Yep. Honestly know people were harmed by this. I hope we can get them back one person at a time if we have to. I wish the judge would have stayed the whole thing. Seriously, the basis for the ban is 9/11 which was 15 years ago. That’s it. Not a dam that’s about to break so we need work crews in there this weekend. i hope at least some Trump voters aren’t so out of reach that they can’t see that the way this was done, even if it was the result that they wanted, was a cruel clusterfuck.

  45. 45.

    lamh36

    #ThanksObama

    @HlLLARY
    Federal Judge Ann Donnelly appointed by @BarackObama confirmed by US Senate 95-2 in 2015 temporarily blocks Trumps ex order #MuslimBan

  49. 49.

    randy khan

    @Baud:

    I see your point, and it’s hard to argue that you’d use Trump today.

    My reason for mentioning it is that a ton of people tarred McAuliffe by association with Clinton when he ran for Governor in both 2009 (when he lost the primary) and 2013, and he’s turned out to be very good. We’d certainly have been better off with him than McDonnell.

  52. 52.

    lamh36

    @NinaDontPlayMtG

    Folks; Uber responded to the NY cabbies show of solidarity with persecuted Americans by ADVERTISING that they were open for business.

  54. 54.

    BBA

    @amk: He’ll try to suspend the writ of habeas corpus. When he’s told the Constitution forbids that in peacetime, he’ll start a war.

  55. 55.

    randy khan

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I do know how to spoof it, but it’s quite annoying and I don’t like the idea that I have to lie to get in touch with the Speaker of the House.

    (And while I’m at it, I’m a little bit squicked out that the White House contact page makes name, address, phone number, and email mandatory fields, but that won’t stop me from sending comments.)

  56. 56.

    Another Scott

    @randy khan: Indeed. Terry Mac has been very, very good. I’m pleased that he’s out at IAD and working on fighthing Trump on things like this.

    I hope he’ll stay in politics after his term is over.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  60. 60.

    Aleta

    (from Wapo) … “The optic of this is really awful,” said Nada Bakos, a former CIA analyst, of the refu­gee ban. “What they’ve done goes too far. All it does is help [Islamic State] recruiting.”
    …
    For Bush, the enemy was al-Qaeda and state sponsors of terrorism to include former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, Iran and the Taliban. Obama insisted that Bush’s definition was a recipe for “endless war” and singled out an even smaller group. To him, the enemy was a series of terrorist death cults that he said were perverting the peaceful religion of Islam.
    …
    The executive order on immigration and refugees was produced at a “frenetic pace” that included none of the interagency reviews that characterized similar orders in the Bush and Obama administrations, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official said.

    “The process was remarkable,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations. “Nobody in the counterterrorism community pushed for this. None of us ever asked for it.”
    …
    The measure drew negative responses across the world, some of which was heard by U.S. forces on the ground in the Middle East.

    U.S. commanders advising Iraqi forces reported back that their partners were mystified by the order. “It’s already flowing back,” said the senior counterterrorism official. “They are asking, ‘What do you think of us? Do you see us as the threat?’ ”

    Some Iraqi lawmakers proposed banning U.S. troops and civilians from entering Iraq — an action, if followed through, that could lead the authorities in Baghdad to turn to Russia and seek more support from Iran.

    Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted that the ban would be “recorded in history as a great gift to extremists and their supporters.”
    …
    (Ugly lie by Bannon)
    …
    (Ugly lie by Flynn)
    …
    (Wapo copout to close)

  61. 61.

    Another Scott

    @randy khan: I don’t think any of those required fields in web contact forms are anything new. Yeah, it’s annoying as hell that one can’t (easily) use them to write to the Speaker or the Chair of Ways and Means, or all the other offices that affect each and every one of us, but they only want to hear from people who can vote for them. It’s been that way a long time.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  62. 62.

    rikyrah

    John Dingell Verified account
    ‏@JohnDingell

    Strange to feel even the slightest tinge of the same horror and helplessness that led me to enlist in ’44.

    We are so much better than this.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    @debbie: @zhena gogolia:
    Here you go:

    Now, let’s be clear: the stay does not strike down the full executive order. It does not allow people to come to the US who are currently abroad. What it does is “preserve the status quo” for people who came to the US in the immediate aftermath of the executive order, after having been granted visas allowing them to legally come to the US (before the order was signed).

    That means that it prevents the hundreds of people detained at airports Friday and Saturday from being deported, while the court system susses out whether Trump’s executive order was in fact legal.

    Judge Donnelly ordered that the federal government was restrained nationwide from “in any manner or any means removing” people with previously approved refugee applications, holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from the seven countries.

    Here’s the whole draft order:
    http://www.vox.com/2017/1/28/14427846/trump-muslim-ban-order

  67. 67.

    PhoenixRising

    @Aleta:

    “The process was remarkable,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations. “Nobody in the counterterrorism community pushed for this. None of us ever asked for it.”

    WaPo misspelled ‘incompetent’ there but it’s also remarkable how slipshod it was.

    If this WH only issues policy that offends American values AND violates an amendment to COTUS, without legal review, we’re gonna have this thing wired by Easter. But wait, what are the chances they’ll stick to campaign promises like that?

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    @rikyrah: That will include US military personnel, diplomatic personnel, contractors, journalists, people working for NGOs, etc.

  69. 69.

    Aleta

    @randy khan: You know this of course, but a landslide of mail makes an impression on their work day, return address doesn.t matter, and stamps are a fun relic from way back when.

  74. 74.

    Jeffro

    @rikyrah:

    The man said who he was and what he’d do. Now you wanna regret your vote? Oh.

    “When someone shows you who they are, believe them” – Maya Angelou, oft quoted by Mrs. Obama last year.

    She knew.

  75. 75.

    JMG

    There will be Republicans at all the Sunday morning shows. Those are taped early in the morning. DC area folks who’re early risers can be outside when they come out. Perhaps they could bring Ziploc bags full of urine and feces. Just a thought.

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    @Keith P.:

    In related news, who is going to be the first cabinet member to resign? And how long can they hold off doing it?

    You’re kidding, right? They were all picked for their billions, their hostility towards the very departments they’ll be running, their Goldman Sachs connections, or some combo of the above. Why would they resign? They signed on with this monster. They’ll only leave him if he backtracks on their tax cuts.

  78. 78.

    Paul W.

    Just donated, because I am at once both disgusted by Trump and the GOP leadership that sold their souls and enabled this, but also inspired by the people in my life who I am tied to in social media who are almost 100% against this.

    Warren for president, btw. I’m finally convinced we need her more in front of the nation than the Senate.

  79. 79.

    Peale

    I wonder what the DoDs recommendations in 30 days will look like. I know we won’t ever see them because Trump hates telling the enemy what we’re up to. Do they just write up the current strategy knowing he probably doesn’t know what it is? Do they put in something he likes, like promising to kill 100,000 civilians a day, but then shoot off fireworks and ask villagers to pretend to be casualties?

  81. 81.

    John Weiss

    I’ve been for “Truth, justice and the American way since I was a shaver. I was a big Steve Rees fan and I jumped off a swing set with a towel.

  82. 82.

    Mary G

    So proud of Americans who are fighting back. Bob Casey, don’t know anything about him, but in the airport in his white tie and tails, very impressive visual.

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Baud: Its unclear to me whether this is the circulated draft for comment or the circulated final memo for action. Even if its the latter, it can still be amended.

  85. 85.

    Raoul

    One of the many small points of resistance and humanity I want to highlight, because it probably won’t get a ton of notice, was that the commissioners that oversee SEA-TAC airport made a public FU to the Rump admin.

    They denounced his EO in clear terms regarding community values. The best part is that they went direct to CBP and asked them what they were doing, found it lacking, and acted in the interests of their neighbors who were attempting to return home.

    We took it upon ourselves to request a full briefing from Customs and Border Protection to understand how they are addressing this situation. We respect these hard working federal employees who are under tremendous strain. However, when we felt that traveler needs were not fully met, the Port of Seattle stepped up. We started providing private waiting areas for families here at the airport and connecting families to lawyers who can help advocate for their rights and the rights of their loved ones.

    The whole action and the full press release are worth a read. Shows what local officials can do! Bravo, Port of Seattle.

    ETA: I wrote to the chair of my Airports Commission (and cc’d my geographic rep) about what SEA-TAC did to encourage them to be ready for similar action at MSP, which handles multiple int’l arrivals per day.

  88. 88.

    Keith P.

    @Jeffro: It’ll happen. One of them is going to get pissed that he’s going around them and walk. Maybe Mattis. Maybe Mnuchin. Maybe even Spicer (not cabinet but visible). Joint Chiefs of Staff probably isn’t a Trump fan right about now (been bumped off the NSC in favor of Steve F’n Bannon)

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    Repeating my report from the LAX protest:

    Crowd at LAX is blocking the entrance to the international terminal. Not a huge crowd, probably a couple hundred, but people keep coming and going to keep it the same size.

    Favorite chant so far: “Can’t build a wall, hands too small.”

  94. 94.

    dogwood

    @Mary G:
    Bob Casey is a bit like Tim Kaine, but probably not as smart. Both are pro-life Catholic dems who, as politicians, don’t cause trouble for women’s reproductive rights.

  99. 99.

    Suzanne

    It is not a fabulous time financially—I haven’t gotten any child support in a year—but my husband and I just rejoined the ACLU and sent them a donation. I was off social media for most of the day because it was a busy day, but now I am hearing about all of the chaos that went down today.

    It’s only Day 8.

  100. 100.

    Jeffro

    @Keith P.: I am somehow not seeing any one of these folks breaking ranks…Mattis thinks quite highly of himself, Mnuchin is a crook through and through…they are all horrible people, all out for themselves and/or out to destroy the very agencies they’ve been chosen to lead. I mean, talk about a gift from heaven…picture yourself being put in charge of the RNC? They’re not going to betray the guy that put them there.

  105. 105.

    Mnemosyne

    Adam, cleanup needed in aisle 93.

    Funny, none of the guys who sexually harassed and sexually assaulted me at school were Muslims. I guess those Christian white boys were doing it wrong.

  107. 107.

    Raoul

    @JMG:

    A super priority of the Dems has to be a challenger for him in 2018.

    Amen! I will max out to any strong Dem that runs in his district. Several key benefits, IMO:

    1. Ryan has to come back to his district regularly to campaign if a credible Dem runs (and by credible, I do not mean straight white male. I mean a solid Dem with some sort of public record and an ability to campaign). If he’s defending his seat, he’s not able to attend all the confabs and fundraisers around the country. He’ll be able to do some, of course, but not as much.
    2. Ryan can’t just come back to his Dist and say “I’m doing this all for you” with little pushback. His message is garbage, and he is not actually that smart. A solid, well coached Dem can upend a number of his flimsy talking points.
    3. A well funded Dem running a solid race means more Dem turnout is his CD, which must contain a number of WI statehouse seats. Chance to flip some of those, Id’ think, in a mid-term where state flips are essential.

    So, I’ll give. I’d even come down and do some volunteering. My sis-in-law lives in the shitheel’s CD and would put me up.

  108. 108.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Adam, I am generally strongly against banning. I am with Cole about letting people speak. But this new troll is a plain racist.

  110. 110.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Baud: I just checked some of the reporting. The President signed it this afternoon between phone calls. So for now its final. It can, however, be amended.

  111. 111.

    sharl

    @randy khan: Several NYC tweeters I follow have posted screen images of them deleting the Uber app from their smart phones. If that takes off in places like NYC in a big way, I don’t see how Uber escapes unscathed; as it is, they have been operating in the red for a long time, in fact since they opened for business IIRC.

  114. 114.

    Mnemosyne

    @Steve:

    So the guys who sexually assaulted me at school in the 1980s were secret Muslims?

    But, please, keep arguing that rape and sexual assault are only bad when Muslims do it. I’m sure you’re thrilled with the new law in Russia that will let you beat your wife with no legal penalty and are already writing your congressman to demand equal protection for yourself once that bitch’s restraining order runs out.

  115. 115.

    Hellbastard

    Just think, all of this could have been avoided if we had simply determined the winner based off the popular vote count.

  117. 117.

    Anne Laurie

    @Adam L Silverman: I just marked as spam a bunch of comments from some gutter nazi under the nym ‘Steve’. Don’t want to try blacklisting him & break the blog — but you’re better than me at this stuff, so go right ahead!

  119. 119.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Raoul: His district is weird. It includes Janesville where he is from and a lot of rural land. Janesville lost a GM plant a few years ago and that wasn’t enough to kill him.

  126. 126.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    Adam told us that the attempts to impose authoritarianism would be noisy and sloppy and full of tells. As for the section of the EO adjusting NSC Principals, Flynn is clearly trying for payback and Bannon wants some serious power with which to burn it all down. The EO telegraphs that, while also distracting many from that detail with the draconian un-American and clearly unconstitutional travel ban from majority Muslim countries(except from countries where PCP has businesses, including the country – SA – where the vast majority of 9/11 terrorists and OBL originated; clearly a coincidence of country selection). It also serves to distract from the continuing investigation of Russia ties to PCP which may focus on a round up – including at least 1 murder to date – of suspected US moles in Russia. Which coincidentally happened shortly after Flynn (and Kushner?) were read in on security info.

  128. 128.

    Adam L Silverman

    @randy khan: Real simple. Click on the little down arrow in the right upper corner of the tweet. When the drop down options appear click on embed tweet. Then copy the embed code. Paste it into the comment box, hit return, and then post comment. And voila!

  132. 132.

    Raoul

    @JMG: Minus the scat, I agree.

    What I’d like to do, but I’m far from Atlanta, is this: Jeffrey Lord is a complete disgrace. Actually several of CNN’s paid bullshit artist are reprehensible, but Lord is the absolute worst.

    Is there any way to get a couple hundred (minimum) people to go protest CNN? And be specific: Jeffrey Lord is disgracing and damaging your news org, Zuck. Fire his ass.

    Of course we need to protest Rump’s bullshit most of all. But outlets like CNN make the daily propaganda mill function. It’s unacceptable.

  133. 133.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: And here’s my answer again:

    If their paperwork is in, they should have interim. But… I do not know exactly how the process works for political appointees. Ordinarily to be read on to what they would be read on to, they would have to have their Top Secret (TS) clearance in scope as the result of a single scope background investigation and to be read onto the Sensitive Compartment Information (SCI) would require the successful completion of a lifestyle polygraph.

  135. 135.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Raoul: He lives in Harrisburg, PA. You could just go and protest on the street in front of his house. From the reporting, CNN sends a car service to pick him up in Harrisburg and drive him to Manhattan every morning and take him home each night when they have him on. That’s about a 4 hour drive depending on traffic as you approach NY City. Though I did get stuck once for almost an hour to go the last five miles into Manhattan.

  136. 136.

    Lizzy L

    I just rejoined ACLU and sent them $$$. So proud of the folks at the airports!

    This. Will. Not. Stand.

  138. 138.

    Raoul

    @Omnes Omnibus: I don’t actually care if we can win his district (but in the political world that is being this disrupted and realigned by Trump, it seems possible/vaguely plausible). I believe there are a host of tactical reasons to invest a decent amount of money in a credible, affective Dem to run against him as I said above.
    A fourth reason that I forgot to put upthread is this: even a losing run can be a stepping stone to a winning one. The RW ahole who ran and lost for Governor of MN is now a second term member of Congress. A smart Dem could parlay the visibility of going hard at Ryan for 18 months into a launchpad for another valued political race in WI for 2020.

  140. 140.

    Mnemosyne

    @NotMax:

    Are you implying that our federal officials have nothing better to do with their time than tweet or comment on top 10,000 blogs?

    … pretty plausible, actually.

  145. 145.

    Lizzy L

    BTW: Talking Point Memo has a report up that the administration is saying they deliberately chose to not mention the Jewish people on Yom Ha Shoah, Holocaust Remembrance Day, in their proclamation, because other people died as well as Jews, and they wanted to be “inclusive”.

    This is like attending a memorial for Tamir Rice, Philando Castile, and Trayvon Martin, and discovering that the pastor has decided to not mention their names, because All Lives Matter.

    At least one of my friends — a person whose judgment I have hitherto had few questions about — posted yesterday on FB that he thinks it was perfectly fine for the administration not to mentioned the Jews in the proclamation, because the Nazis killed millions of people and they weren’t all Jewish. I am trying to find a way to converse with him about this w/o losing my shit.

  147. 147.

    Mnemosyne

    @Lizzy L:

    I’m actually pretty convinced that it was meant to be a dogwhistle for the forced birthers since they had their big DC march yesterday. Because legal abortion is worse than the Holocaust, y’know.

  148. 148.

    Raoul

    @Lizzy L: I can tell you that I, as a gay person, when I saw various politicians put out statements about the Orlando nightclub massacre that didn’t actually use the words Gay or LGBTQ, etc, that I was personally, deeply impacted by the absence. It is a clear omission by intent.
    If we look at how Jews and Jewish groups have reacted to yesterday’s WH statement, I think you can see a similar impact.
    I don’t personally excuse the WH for any crap they make up about intent. But even if one does, the impact was real and damaging. And the WH has been told of the impact and doubled-down on the “we didn’t mean it” which is crap.

  149. 149.

    Mnemosyne

    @Lizzy L:

    Also, if you want to be a jerk, ask him how many assorted people died in the Holocaust. (It was 6 million Jews and 6 million assorted others, so an estimated 12 million overall.)

  151. 151.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Lizzy L: The ADL called this out and then Hope Hicks read a statement from the head of the World Jewish Congress that basically told ADL to fuck off – that Holocaust remembrance shouldn’t prejudice Jews at the expense of other victims. So they’ve already lined up court Jews to push back on the anti-Semitism charges.

  153. 153.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Calouste: Yes and plays into the hands of the deniers who claim that Jews were basically incidentally targeted and at most a couple 100,000 Jews were killed. Largely from disease contracted in the concentration camps, which were work camps and relocation camps, not death camps.

  155. 155.

    Vhh

    @Lizzy L: It’s fun to note that an unintended consequence of Trump and the GOP becoming Comrade Putin’s butt boys is that they can no longer accuse the ACLU or the Dems of being Commies. Putin has openly stated that the collapse of the USSR was the tragedy of the 20th C. His policies as President have clearly aimed at re-establishing Russian control or at least strong influence over the former Soviet Republics. His near term todo list includes completion of the Ukraine land grab and Finlandization of the Baltic states. So you can defend constitutional rights and be a Real American, and taunt the Trump Chumps as Vlad’s Useful Idiots, heirs to the Rosenbergs.

  157. 157.

    Ian

    @zhena gogolia:
    I have never understood the purity left’s hatred of McAuliffe. He served in the Clinton admin, is that a crime? (Yes, if rethug or uberprog i guess?). He was also DNC chair during the early Bush years. It was a mixed bag record, but not to the screech level of hatred.

  158. 158.

    Steve N'ass

    @Omnes Omnibus: District 1 isn’t that rural. Along with Janesville, it also includes Racine and Kenosha, two of the largest cities in the state. Walworth County is a right-wing exurban/faux-rural hellmouth second only to Ozaukee, but the rest of the district is more urban than it seems. A state legislator needs to step up and take on ZEGS: Cory Mason or Bob Wirch, or Peter Barca could even try to get it back. A Dem with a strong base of support in Racine and Kenosha could win, or at least put on a show that sucks up ГОП time and money.

    Too bad Wisconsin is gerrymandered to hell, and Janesville were included along with Madison and Beloit in District 2 where it belongs. Maybe a judicial redistricting would fix it, but that ain’t happening. But ZEGS would probably just move to Elkhorn or something. Fck Janesville Nazis.

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    Mnemosyne

    @Calouste:

    And, of course, the non-Jews who were systematically murdered were also chosen based on who they were: the disabled, the Romany (Gypsies), LGBT people. It doesn’t really make the Holocaust less horrifying to point out that the Nazis murdered retarded people so they wouldn’t be a burden on the state. Quite the contrary, IMO.

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