@momentofmagnus @anildash Seems that he is: https://t.co/TXlNxbSkR4 . Which makes the hypocrisy of many Republicans even more obvious.
— Michael Busch (@michael_w_busch) January 27, 2017
Behold, the Trumpworld Gamora and Rocket Racoon! Not shown: Jared Kushner as Star Lord, Paul Ryan as Drax, and Mike Pence as Groot, the semi-sentient ambulatory tree who will be used as a blast barrier by his teammates in the event of blowback.
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News Anchor Suspended After Saying Kellyanne Conway is 'Good at Bullshit' https://t.co/JJ1b6fB2nH (VIDEO) pic.twitter.com/uWw6qSm9jF
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) January 27, 2017
Conway is never less than excellent at bullshit! She has the best bullshit!
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Trump’s Chief Strategist Says News Media Should ‘Keep Its Mouth Shut’ calls them the opposition https://t.co/u41lphsXQM
— Hadas Gold (@Hadas_Gold) January 26, 2017
Trump official just conceded to me that Bannon "came a little off the chain."
— Joshua Green (@JoshuaGreen) January 27, 2017
Gee maybe cuz he's had a 96 hour erection from all his white supremacist fanfic getting signed as Executive Orders https://t.co/KK5LAmn5yt
— Zeddy (@ZeddRebel) January 27, 2017
Your semi-regular reminder that Trump’s lead strategist Steve Bannon loves him some Nazis. https://t.co/IWa1YIUVvV
— Phil Plait (@BadAstronomer) January 27, 2017
Here is Bannon calling himself a Leninist and saying he wants to "Destroy the state." #RemoveBannon pic.twitter.com/sBqjdsci6L
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) January 26, 2017
Goddess bless the Onion: “White House Staff Reminded To Place Lids Firmly On Trash Cans After Steve Bannon Gets Into Garbage Again“.
Alex Jones says he's been offered WH press credentials.
The WH says that's not true.
What's sad is that I have no idea which one is lying.— JJ MacNab (@jjmacnab) January 26, 2017
Reminder: This is ALL on the Republicans. Thanks, guys!
rikyrah
going to repost this:
odp
@dyllyp
I told this story about #refugees a couple years ago on Veterans Day with a humorous slant. I’m going to tell it again today, unfiltered
odp
@dyllyp
Years ago, on my first deployment to Iraq, I befriended a local boy, Brahim, who would quickly become one of our interpreters.
odp
@dyllyp
He was able to do so, bc the turnover rate for local nationals work with us was enormous. And not bc they quit, bc they were killed.
odp
@dyllyp
Besides the money, we were able to get them to volunteer with us by promising them refugee status in the U.S. if they completed a tour.
odp
@dyllyp
(But really, I think the chain of command knew that most interpreters wouldn’t make it through their contracts alive.)
odp
@dyllyp
Anyway, Brahmin would tell me about all the family members he lost in the conflict–brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, all of em.
odp
@dyllyp
He told me how he lived in a one bedroom house with 7 people. No clean water, power every other week because of the rolling blackouts, etc.
odp
@dyllyp
He told me how they did have the basic necessities most days and that him volunteering w/ us was one of their sole sources of income.
odp
@dyllyp
One day, I went down to the PX and bought him $20, maybe $30 worth of toiletries. Nbd really. Just didn’t want dude to smell like shit.
odp
@dyllyp
When I presented it to him, he cried. Literally bawled his eyes out and said he give his life for me. OVER SOAP. Completely sobering.
odp
@dyllyp
He spent the next year acting as our liaison, providing us with valuable intel, essentially saving our lives on a daily basis. At 16.
odp
@dyllyp
At the end of my tour in Iraq, I knew I was leaving him to die. I knew I’d never see him again. Was just kinda like “take care kid.
odp
@dyllyp
Fast forward 5-years. And I’m flying home to Phoenix to bury my little brother who was brutally murdered. (Gun violence is another subj.)
odp
@dyllyp
I remember the day like it was yesterday. I cried my eyes out all the way from Hawaii to Arizona. Fucking brutal.
odp
@dyllyp
Spend 6 years fighting wars and you don’t expect to get a phone call that your kid brother was randomly murdered in a carjacking.
odp
@dyllyp
Anyway, I land in Arizona and it’s pouring. Hop off and walk down to the taxi stand. (Uber’s weren’t really a thing in 2013.)
odp
@dyllyp
I get in the first taxi that pulls up and we’re off. Driver starts to make the standard small talk. Where you from, what do you do, etc.
odp
@dyllyp
I tell him I just got out of the military and blah blah. He says “oh great. I love the military. You ever travel anywhere?”
odp
@dyllyp
Tell him, “Sure. Been to every corner of the globe. Africa, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.” He says “Oh! I’m from Iraq! What part?”
odp
@dyllyp
I say “Kirkuk, mostly.” And he says “Im from Kirkuk.” And then gets really fucking quiet. Like awkwardly quiet. Making me nervous quiet.
odp
@dyllyp
My first thought is I killed one of his family members and he recognizes me. And now im literally getting ready to bail out of the cab.
odp
@dyllyp
I see him staring at me in the rear view. I can see the anguish in his eyes. And then he starts to PULL THE CAB TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
odp
@dyllyp
He stops, turns around and says, “Dylan, you remember me? It’s me, Brahim.” And I’m like wtffffff. And just start sobbing.
odp
@dyllyp
We got out of that taxi off the I10 and Rural and hugged it out on a bridge in the rain on some Notebook shit. I didn’t ever care, man.
odp
@dyllyp
So I’m like WTF ARE YOU DOING IN FUCKING ARIZONA?! HOW? MAN WHAT? And he’s like I did my 4 years and they gave me a visa.
odp
@dyllyp
They gave him some cash and a 1 way ticket to the States. Asked him where he wanted to go, and he said where the weather is like Iraq.
odp
@dyllyp
So they sent him to Arizona.
odp
@dyllyp
5 years after I left him in Iraq and a few days after my younger brother was violently murdered, the universe linked us up again.
odp
@dyllyp
Brahim literally saved my life, twice.
odp @dyllyp 5h5 hours ago
Lost one brother, and got another one back. #refugees
Brachiator
The Republicans are willing and eager to own it, until they suffer electoral defeats.
rikyrah
Daniel Dale Verified account
@ddale8
Daniel Dale Retweeted Tamer El-Ghobashy
Breaking: State Department says dual citizens with those seven countries ARE banned from the US.
rikyrah
Daniel Dale @ddale8 5h5 hours ago
“Case-by-case basis” still effectively means green card holders are trapped in the US. Few will risk leaving not being sure they can return.
Emma
Whatever happens, whatever remains, we cannot let them write the history anymore. Ever again.
rikyrah
Daniel Dale Verified account
@ddale8
So, according to the State Department, Iranian-Canadians, Iraqi-Canadians, Syrian-Canadians cannot travel to the US now.
Mike in NC
That Bannon is one fat disheveled slob.
Betty
As Daffy would say “desss-spicccable!”
Major Major Major Major
Republicans better me made to fucking own this. Every last one. Anybody who remained registered with that party through the election.
rikyrah
Refugee Family’s Grandmother Detained on Trump’s Orders
A 77-year-old woman who hasn’t seen her son or his children since he left Iraq four years ago was locked up in Dallas and will be sent on the next flight back to the Middle East.
01.28.17 5:28 PM ET
DALLAS — Khaled Abdaan hasn’t seen his mother since he fled Iraq four years ago with the help of the U.S. government.
On Saturday, he waited at the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport to see her for the first time. He wouldn’t, thanks to an executive order signed by President Donald Trump on Friday night. Abdaan’s mother, 77-year-old Siham Abaas, was detained off a flight from Dubai on Saturday afternoon. Like countless people being detained in airports across the country, she will likely be sent out of the U.S. on the next available flight.
“An official told me he was just following the law,” Abdaan told The Daily Beast. “I understand that. I myself would enforce the law. But what did my mother do wrong?”
debbie
Has anyone been able to ask anyone on the Trump team why the countries Trump has business dealings with are exempt from the order?
rikyrah
Christopher Hayes
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@chrislhayes
I have no illusions about the politics of this. This is playing *very* poorly in the bluest parts of the country. Elsewhere: unclear.
Follow
Elliott Lusztig @ezlusztig
@chrislhayes To be honest: those of us in the bluest parts of the country are losing interest in how it is playing elsewhere. Gloves off.
4:24 PM – 28 Jan 2017
debbie
https://twitter.com/hankgreen/status/825471810183503872
He’s up to $1,000.
schrodingers_cat
@rikyrah: Fuck the msm for trying to game this with a horse race narrative. Lives are at stake here. Does this Hayes think that immigrants only live in blue states.
rikyrah
New York Yemenis stunned by Trump’s ban: ‘I feel like somebody has killed me’
On Saturday, Mohamed Muezeb, a 47-year-old convenience store owner from Ridgewood, Queens, woke up to a voicemail from his 17-year-old daughter, Sawsan. She was stranded at Hamad International airport in Qatar, and she was sobbing.
A day after Donald Trump signed an executive order implementing “extreme vetting” for people coming to the US from seven predominantly Muslim nations, including Yemen, confusion reigned at airports in the US and abroad.
Muezeb, a Yemeni green card holder who has lived in the US for 27 years, told the Guardian that his wife Arwa, daughter and 15-year-old son Mohamed Yousef had been prevented from boarding a flight to John F Kennedy international airport.
They had planned to reunite with their family after waiting four years for a permanent residency application that was approved just three weeks ago, Muezeb said.
Timurid
I went and saw ‘Silence’ today, as it is now sickeningly topical.
I came back home and the news was getting worse.
I saw Trump’s dead astronauts tweet and responded that the worst thing about the Challenger disaster was that he was not on board.
Probably not very smart, but I am literally numb with rage right now.
Bendal
I’ve read enough history, and seen enough of Trumpf’s administration, to realize the similarities between them and Hitler’s staff are far more than coincidental.
Conway is Trumpf’s Axis Sally, a paid performer who says whatever she is told to say as long as it mirrors his beliefs and actions
Spicer is his Josef Goebbels, the propagandist who attacks the free media as being the enemy and told the population to believe only what he says
Bannon is the scary one. The similarities between him and Hitler’s most trusted confidant and advisor are too numerous. That man was one of Hitler’s earliest supporters and rapidly rose to power in his regime, to the point he was the #2 man in the Third Reich and the most feared official. That man was Heinrich Himmler.
rikyrah
Zeke Miller Verified account
@ZekeJMiller
DNI and Chairman of Joint Chiefs no longer automatic NSC Principals Committee members
Davis X. Machina
@rikyrah: There are tens of millions of people in this country who read things like this and feel good. Tens of millions.
No wonder I see so many ads for sleep aids.
RedDirtGirl
I was just thinking of re-reading Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism
by Naomi Klein. And I’m thinking of applying for the Organizing For America organizer training that is coming up in March. Someone linked to it here this week. I volunteered for a number of years after September 11th for WILPF, in the founding chapter of one of the oldest women’s peace organizations around. One of their national campaigns was around corporate “Citizenship”, and I learned that corporations used to look a lot different; chartered for a particular endeavor, (I think) strictly limited in their participation in the public/political sphere, and traditionally dismantled after a certain finite amount of time. I could be remembering wrong, but it’s an interesting thing I guess I’m going to look into further.
Hope everyone is keeping “their peckers up”. According to my aunt in England, that is comparable to “keep your chin up” over here.
Smiling Mortician
Question for all y’all who are good at efficient citizen action. I’m fortunate enough that both of my senators and my congressional rep are all strong blue. I do call them and thank them for their integrity. But when it comes to calling/contacting legislators who don’t specifically represent me, is there a good tactical approach to writing/calling? My understanding is that generally a senator from, say, West Virginia wouldn’t give a shit what someone from Western Washington thinks . . .
Advice on how I could maybe make a difference with legislators outside my district by, I dunno, saying some magic words to the staffer who answers the phone?
JMG
DC is the most Democratic city in the US. Whenever a member of the Trump administration enters a restaurant, theater, concert, whatever, everyone else should get up and leave. Shunning is an effective non-violent protest. Let ’em eat dinner in Eire, Pa.
? Martin
@rikyrah: ⅔ of the seats the GOP needs to keep the House are in California. We don’t have gerrymandering or voter id laws.
rikyrah
University Of Michigan Defies Trump By Refusing To Release Immigration Status Of Students
While some major universities are advising their students that they are studying Trump’s Muslim ban, the University of Michigan released a statement on Saturday that flatly refused to release the immigration status of their students. Big Blue isn’t playing along with Trump’s Muslim prejudice.
In a statement, the University reiterated their policy on non-discrimination, privacy, and public safety:
– The University of Michigan welcomes and supports students without regard to their immigration status. We will continue to admit students in a manner consistent with our non-discrimination policy. Once students are admitted, the university is committed to fostering an environment in which each student can flourish.
– The university complies with federal requirements associated with managing its international programs. Otherwise, the university does not share sensitive information like immigration status.
– Campus police do not inquire about or record immigration status when performing their duties.
– In accordance with federal law, the enforcement of immigration law rests with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Protection. Campus police will not partner with federal, state, or other local law enforcement agencies to enforce federal immigration law except when required to do so by law.
– The university maintains a strong commitment to the privacy of student records for all students, consistent with state and federal laws. We do not provide information on immigration status to anyone except when required by law.
– The university offers in-state tuition to undocumented students who meet certain conditions.
rikyrah
Jack Smith IV Verified account
@JackSmithIV
Lawyers are arriving by the dozens to JFK, taking shifts outside of international arrivals.Here’s their call to action:
SiubhanDuinne
I read “teammates” as “termites.”
? Martin
@rikyrah: UC and CalState are doing the same.
SiubhanDuinne
@rikyrah:
Said it downstairs and I’ll say it again here. That story just phucking chews me up.
Renie
@rikyrah: that is a beautiful story; tears in my eyes; thanks for sharing on this of all days
Davis X. Machina
@JMG: Eire county went Trump by 2,500 votes. Gary Johnson’s vote was the margin. And the city settles 1/5 of PA’s entire refugee intake.
There might be better places to make them eat dinner in.
A Ghost to Most
So it begins – Fire consumes Victoria, TX Islamic Center
waysel
@Smiling Mortician: Isn’t it true that anyone can contribute to any PAC anywhere? Maybe remind these guys of that.
HeleninEire
In a Dublin pub. The singer just dedicated a song to Trump. “I love you better when you say nothing at all.” Yeah
Sloegin
The Hill R’s are going along with Trump figuring they can let him have a little fun while they dismantle everything. Such a fun little monkey. Right up to the point when he rips their faces off.
Want to freak out a little bit? Follow the postings of another ‘off the rez’ twitter account @RoguePOTUSStaff.
lollipopguild
@rikyrah: Thank you for this.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@rikyrah: But Bannon and Priebus now are.
Fuck.
? Martin
NYC taxi workers have called for a work stoppage starting at 6PM (45 min ago) for all pickups and drop offs to JFK.
Jeffro
So…
– private email accounts/servers are ok for Bannon and Conway, but not Clinton…got it…
– we’re banning Muslims, except those who Trump does business with…got it…
– (Mattis is standing by this, btw)
– David Duke is tweeting “best. day. ever.” re: the Muslim ban
– Richard Spencer’s tweeting that the Statue of Liberty is beautiful and “never should have been associated with weakness, deformity,…” etc
Only thing to do is keep ramping up: calling Trump businesses and jamming up their lines (perfectly ok, since he refuses to divest); keep calling our MoCs (and I think I’m going to start calling random GOP MoCs too, just to let them know that “America’s Watching” and 2018 is right around the corner); keep donating to the ACLU and PP; keep writing; keep marching; and MAKE REPUBLICANS OWN THIS.
D58826
@rikyrah: but Kellyann and Bannon are. The in mates really are running the place.
Jeffro
Um moderators, my comment done disappeared?
Turgidson
@? Martin:
Only a handful of them are potentially flippable, particularly in a midterm election, however. For as liberal and sane as California is on the whole in this Golden Age of Grandpa Jerry’s Benevolent Reign, plenty of large swaths of it are irredeemably red.
But goddamn, would I like to send that insufferable ass Darrell Issa packing. We came so close in Nov.
Lyrebird
@rikyrah: Ditto… thank you.
What are people’s fave agencies that help refugees, Int’l Rescue Committee?
rikyrah
only Dems I see are two from NYC, who are at JFK, working with the lawyers to get people released.
EVERY DEM NEAR A MAJOR CITY NEEDS TO BE AT THAT LOCAL AIRPORT, WITH LAWYERS FOR THESE PEOPLE
Ohio Mom
@Smiling Mortician: What I’ve done sometimes is this: Say I am calling someone about Issue X because he is on the House or Senate Committee for X,Y and Z.
I admit that I am not from their state and point out that none of my MoCs are on his committee. He has to represent me in his role as Committee Chair for X, Y and Z.
Does that work, I do not know. I have noticed that a lot of times the interns who answer phones do not ask me where I’m from. Do they have caller ID? That is hardly foolproof because people keep cell numbers even as they move to different states.
D58826
@debbie: I think your question answers itself
D58826
@Brachiator: Which they never suffer. Rather they are rewarded at the polls – 2010/2014/2016
ThresherK
Oh, if only they were.
Ohio Mom
Hey, why do I have a comment on moderation? Was it a typo in my email address?
I had a reply to Smiling Morticisn’s question.
Mike E
@Major Major Major Major: that reminds me… gotta reregister unaffiliated, my (R) was a ploy to get their mailers these last 3 years. Never voted for one, though. Heh
Turgidson
@ThresherK:
Right? They think our current smoldering pile of cowardice and groveling that calls itself the media is too mean to them. Imagine how much whining would be coming from Hair Furor’s inner circle if the media actually did a non-shitty job covering these chuckleheads. You could hear the whining from fucking Mars.
Yarrow
@rikyrah:
YES! THIS! Where are the Democrats in every major city with an airport that gets incoming international flights? Why are they not speaking up? WHERE ARE THEY?
Major Major Major Major
A Vonnegut quote that just popped into my head that I know I found helpful in the moment.
NotMax
You left off a couple of letters from KKKakistocracy.
Renie
@debbie: they claim it’s not true and has nothing to do with it
Jeffro
Already talked w/ Mrs J – international students who get stranded here in the states are welcome to stay with us indefinitely (I figure we have room for 4?)
Only catch is they have to help me register voters all through next November ;)
rikyrah
World News | Sat Jan 28, 2017 | 5:13pm EST
Trump ban causes U.S. immigration chaos, draws fury of Muslims, Iran
By Jeff Mason and Jonathan Allen | WASHINGTON/NEW YORK
President Donald Trump’s most far reaching action since taking office plunged America’s immigration system into chaos on Saturday, not only for refugees but for legal U.S. residents who were turned away at airports and feared being stranded outside the country.
Immigration lawyers and advocates worked through the night trying to help stranded travelers find a way back home. Lawyers in New York sued to block the order, saying many people have already been unlawfully detained, including an Iraqi who worked for the U.S. Army in Iraq.
Confusion abounded at airports as immigration and customs officials struggled to interpret the new rules, with some legal residents who were in the air when the order was issued detained at airports upon arrival.
“Imagine being put back on a 12-hour flight and the trauma and craziness of this whole thing,” said Mana Yegani, an immigration lawyer in Houston. “These are people that are coming in legally. They have jobs here and they have vehicles here.”
Thousands of refugees seeking entry were thrown into limbo. Melanie Nezer of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, a Jewish group that works with refugees, said she knew of roughly 2,000 who were booked to come to the United States next week.
The new Republican president on Friday put a four-month hold on allowing refugees into the United States and temporarily barred travelers from Syria and six other Muslim-majority countries. He said the moves would protect Americans from terrorism, in a swift and stern delivery on a campaign promise.
“It’s not a Muslim ban,” Trump said on Saturday after signing more executive orders in the Oval Office. He said such measures should have been in place for years.
The ban affects travelers with passports from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen and extends to green card holders who are legal permanent residents of the United States.
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LEGAL RESIDENTS STUNNED
Legal residents of the United States were plunged into despair at the prospect of being unable to return to the United States or being separated from family members trapped abroad.
“I never thought something like this would happen in America,” said Mohammad Hossein Ziya, 33, who came to the United States in 2011 after being forced to leave Iran for his political activities.
Ziya, who lives in Virginia, has a green card and planned to travel to Dubai next week to see his elderly father.
Saleh Taghvaeian, 36, teaches agricultural water management at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater, said he feared his wife would not be able to return from Iran after a visit.
In Cairo, five Iraqi passengers and one Yemeni were barred from boarding an EgyptAir flight to New York on Saturday, sources at Cairo airport said. Dutch airline KLM [AIRF.PA] said on Saturday it had refused carriage to the United States to seven passengers from predominately Muslim countries.
rikyrah
ACLU National
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@ACLU
We’re urging Senate to cancel vote on Sessions atty general nom based on his reported involvement in executive orders signed by Trump today
2:33 PM – 25 Jan 2017
Tazj
@rikyrah: Wow, that was a moving and enlightening thread .@D58826: I don’t understand how anyone could work for Trump. Conway’s Twitter feed was just vile today. She said “Get used to it” and Trump’s EO’s were a shock to the system.” Separating families and stranding people is a good thing in her opinion I guess.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: Wow. That has gotta be unconstitutional. What the hell is going on?
? Martin
Reports about 50 immigrants detained at DFW. Dozens at SFO (also protests and attorneys there). Dozens at LAX (also protests and attorneys there).
Caphilldcne
@rikyrah: Go Blue! Proud of my Alma Mater! Thanks for letting me know. I’ll be sending them a note and a check. And donate to the ACLU! I’m so enraged. What a joke this country has become.
HRA
@rikyrah:
Thank you for sending all this current information.
Yarrow
I don’t know how to reach these people or if it’s even possible. But this is who’s supporting Trump’s EO.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: Keep in mind that it was Bush/Cheney and the US which messed up Iraq. Speechless.
Smiling Mortician
@waysel: Oh, that’s good. Thanks.
raven
Decent Interval
Smiling Mortician
@Sloegin: I’m leaning toward believing those folks are who they say they are.
catclub
@Turgidson:
unless 2006 is the model democrats want to follow.
The House has been extremely volatile the past 6 elections.
Democrats take back both houses in 2006, landslide in 2008
lose house badly in 2010, etc etc
debit
@Yarrow: And he’s plunged 8 points in a Gallup poll. It’s been one week and I’m asking myself how low can he go before someone who’s telling him to do all this gets fired for being wrong and ruining his “legacy”.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: Watch Trump retaliate by cutting off federal aid to students at U of Michigan. He’s so petty and vindictive that I don’t see how any entity will get away with defying him.
But but but Hillary used an illegal email server!! Benghazi!!! Clinton Foundation!!
PPCLI
@? Martin: Then maybe California should gerrymander the fuck out of the GOP. New York too.
Smiling Mortician
@Ohio Mom: Oh, no! Please, WP, let it through. I’m jonesing for good advice.
? Martin
So, Steve Bannon is an automatic member of the National Security Council, but the Chair of the Joint Chiefs is not.
I guess US national security has gone full partisan now.
martian
This is possibly a tangent to discussion of the latest chaos and most recent victims, but does anyone have an idea what the Douchecanoe Supreme is intending with that raised fist I keep seeing in photos now? Is he literally doing some kind of white power salute? Is he just fluffing up his hands to make them look bigger in pictures? Both? What is that creepy, fascist looking shit, seriously, anybody know?
Oldgold
I hope those who were too pure to vote for HRC are proud of their damn purity. Not.
Mike in NC
@Tazj: Conway is so grotesque, she and Ann Coulter must have been separated at birth.
rikyrah
Rep. Keith Ellison Verified account
@keithellison
DA: Man kicked Muslim woman at JFK airport, said ‘Trump is here now’
debit
@Patricia Kayden: I feel like calling up my realtor. He and his girlfriend were Bernie Bros that went to the convention and did their best to fuck over Hillary by screaming and throwing tantrums. I really want to ask him if he still thinks Hillary and Trump are the same.
rikyrah
@? Martin:
I like hearing about the attorneys..
WHERE ARE THE DEMS?
WHY ARE THEY NOT AT THESE AIRPORTS?
Yarrow
@rikyrah:
I read a later clarification that it’s Canadian dual citizens with Iraq, Iran, etc. Unprecedented in barring entry of Canadian citizens, but US dual citizens with those countries apparently will still be admitted in. Although US dual citizenship is not officially a thing unless you’re Israeli, I think.
Patricia Kayden
@A Ghost to Most: Hate incidents have spiked since Trump’s election so we’re going to see much more of this. Unfortunately.
Davis X. Machina
@? Martin: The organs of the State, like the Army, are there first to serve the Party, and not the State, because the Party, not the State, is the Vanguard of the Revolution. The State, on the other hand, is fated to wither away.
Bannon is an avowed, self-admitted Leninist. He knows how this works.
Davis X. Machina
@rikyrah: Jerry Nadler was at JFK all day.
Aleta
I got curious as to opposition from US Christian groups. Seems like welcoming the homeless stranger would be fundamental.
They list the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (declared that it “strongly opposes” Trump’s executive orders), New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan, and World Relief, the arm of the National Association of Evangelicals that provides refugee and immigration resettlement services. On the unChristian side they came up with Focus on the Family (refused to comment), Samuel Rodriguez, head of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference (both sides of his mouth) and Franklin Graham (talking container of soulless scum).
This letter is signed by US religious leaders, over 2000 signatures.
Signatures are listed after the letter.
Patricia Kayden
@debit: I’d like to ask that of Susan Sarandon who has taken to twitter to criticize Trump recently. I recall her saying that he would be a better President than Secretary Clinton. **blood boiling**
Peale
@? Martin: I don’t know if this is a good or a bad thing. I think the plan is to fire generals until they find their Patton. So if the chair of the joint chiefs is ever invited in, we’re probably going to to something foolishly rash with high causualites…which somehow they think is what Patton would do in any situation.
? Martin
@Davis X. Machina: Indeed.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
There’s a march in Copley Square tomorrow in support of immigrants. I’ll be there with my daughter. I’d go to the scientist march on March 4, but I have reservations I can’t cancel. I’m going to the 4/15 tax march in Washington. It’s all I can do now, is to march. It’s time for arm in arm to the barricades. It’s time.
debit
@Patricia Kayden: Oh, I wish a motherfucker would in front of me. I’m 53 years old but damned if I’m not ready to throw down, right the fuck now.
Honus
@Turgidson: Issa is Syrian so trump might send him packing.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Yarrow:
Economic anxiety is a hell of a thing!
Yarrow
@Patricia Kayden: I hope people are trolling the hell out of Susan Sarandon on twitter every fucking time she goes on about how bad Trump is. Every. Fucking. Time.
Major Major Major Major
@Peale: of course, if they aren’t careful they’ll end up with a MacArthur.
Yarrow
@Steeplejack (tablet): It sure is! I wonder how their economic anxiety is going to be if we end up in a trade war with Mexico and a real war with China?
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah:
Citizens should be stunned too. This is a shocking development even for Trump. I suppose the Muslim registry is next since he’s pushing the envelope from the get go.
SiubhanDuinne
@Davis X. Machina:
I never had much of an opinion about Jerry Nadler before today, but damn! He is now very high on my list of Righteous Democrats.
rikyrah
Juliette Kayyem Verified account
@juliettekayyem
Hearing that customs officials in tears because they can’t get guidance from White House, DHS not returning calls, etc and crowds growing.
Juliette Kayyem Verified account
@juliettekayyem
A reminder that a huge proportion of customs and border agents are military vets continuing to support our security. Still, Trump hides.
Peale
@rikyrah: don’t worry about it. Some are there. We need to wait for the courts to strip out a lot of these things. It’s illegal. Paul Ryan may wish to deny that Congress needs to do anything, but it’s not like there aren’t immigration laws that congress has set that the president can change like this. We need the courts first. Rescinding the order, however ghastly, I think implies that the president can issue orders like this and he’s doing us a favor and being nice to take it back.
We should not negotiate over illegal and unconstitutional things, let the courts weaken it first. As for now at least, the courts may be helpful.
Ohio Mom
@Smiling Mortician: I’ll try again. I don’t know how great this advice is, it is the only thing I could think of.
When I am calling a MoC on a particular issue, let’s call it Issue X, and it is something handled by the House or Senate Committee on X, Y and Z, I point out that since none of my MoCs are on that committee, the person I’m calling has to represent me.
Most of the time I call, no one asks me where I am from, even when I call my own MoC (then of course I do make a big thing of where I live).
Sometimes I wonder if they have caller ID. That’s hardly foolproof in the age of cell phones since many people keep the same number even as they move many states away from where they lived when they got the number.
I like to think that the sheer numbers of calls makes a difference, mo matter where we live. I guess time will soon tell.
Patricia Kayden
@Yarrow:
For now. I’m sure Trump and his minions are working to change that. Their hatred is of an entire religious group and I’m sure U.S. citizenship won’t exempt American Muslims from feeling Trump’s wrath.
Timurid
@Peale:
They’re not looking for the general who will lead an army into Tehran. They want a general who will lead an army into Los Angeles.
Trump is not a Cold Warrior. He’s not a neoconservative. He’s a white supremacist, first and foremost. All of his real enemies are already inside our borders.
Fortunately he’ll find out that compromising the military’s leadership is going to be a lot harder than Steve Bannon thinks it is…
Mary G
@rikyrah: Tried to reply, plus forward to @POTUS and @DarrellIssa, and Twitter told me I might not be able to do some of those actions.
Aleta
@rikyrah: Oh did he really.
Mary G
@Patricia Kayden: I am shocked to my core. I had no idea they would ever go this far, let alone in the first week.
Anne Laurie
Dedicated sercon refugee-ban post up top, now.
Peale
@Patricia Kayden: yeah. I don’t think a lot of the anti-immigrant people are keen on keeping “naturalization” in place. Like when they claim there are 30 million illegals in the country, you don’t get to that number without a great deal of citizens included in hat number.
rikyrah
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
My brother in law, has saved THOUSANDS American lives, one of few surgeons in world do special heart procedure, CANNOT TRAVEL
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
Trump has banned him from returning if leaves country. USA: if you lose him you lose one of only surgeons who can do procedure
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
That literally saves you. He’s also invented/patented a special valve that saves lives – a SURGEON that spends entire day
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
Saving lives, a heart surgeon, has been told CANNOT RETURN to US if travels. So: no conferences, no saving people home in UK
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
No visiting relatives in UK, if he leaves American soil you LOSE A HEART SURGEON
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
Trump: if your heart fails and you need surgery and there’s only one person who can do it – will you ask where he was born
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
He has a London accent as raised London but by place of birth Trump has decided cannot travel. He cannot VISIT ME this is
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
FASCIST
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
F***k you he is my family. He is NOT the enemy. You’ll lose a world famous surgeon if this keeps up
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
I’m told can’t visit for CHRISTMAS. This is outrageous. Why don’t you just get all the brown people to wear stars on sleeve
Belinda Barnet
@manjusrii
Every long stressful day, this man *saves more American lives* than Trump will in his lifetime
Major Major Major Major
@Patricia Kayden: honestly this is the first day I’ve read the news and asked, is this really happening? I don’t know if surprised is the right word but I’m certainly feeling different.
If our venerable institutions fold and allow this then I’m writing off the whole country.
Gin & Tonic
@raven: Still have a hardcover first edition.
Yarrow
@Patricia Kayden: Yes, of course. I was just referring to how this EO affects people now. I fully expect Muslim registry and rounding up of “suspicious” Muslims first, alleged lawbreakers, followed by all of them. As it has gone before with other groups.
Yarrow
@Timurid:
Will he? All the other institutions seems to be falling. Will the military hold?
bluefoot
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: What time at Copley? I will be there.
? Martin
I think a remarkable new dynamic here is the rapid mobilization of the public. Protests have always been fairly slow moving affairs needing time to organize. There are thousands and thousands of people at JFK and they all mobilized within hours. That makes it a lot harder for Trump to control the message and it gives the media something to latch onto as they report on his actions. I don’t know if it can last, but I can’t recall this happening in any meaningful way before.
Immanentize
@Major Major Major Major: same
? Martin
@Timurid:
Yep. He’s already made hints toward Chicago.
Immanentize
@bluefoot: ditto. Copley when?
Yarrow
@Mary G: Authoritarians move fast once in power.
Smiling Mortician
@Ohio Mom: Thank you. That’s really useful. I’m planning to make use of Five Calls on a regular basis, so if I have a list of who’s on which committees, I could maybe do more good.
#Resist
Steve in the ATL
@rikyrah:
This statement indicates just how bad things have gotten!
But in all seriousness, shit is fucked up and bullshit.
rikyrah
@Davis X. Machina:
I know. He and Vazquez.
WHERE IS THE REST OF THE NY DELEGATION?
WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE DEMS FROM MAJOR INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS?
Yarrow
@rikyrah: EXACTLY! I’m not happy that all the Dems from large cities with major international airports aren’t out there.
Smiling Mortician
@Patricia Kayden:
I halfway agree. Their hatred is of a group classified by both religion and Trump’s idea of class. If he deals with reasonable Saudi businessmen, then in his mind, Saudis are the OK Muslims. Ditto for the UAE, etc. If he doesn’t have this MotU relationship with the bigwigs in the Muslim-dominant country, then he hates the people of that country.
Timurid
@Yarrow:
Please allow me a little bit of wishful thinking.
A bit more seriously, those guys take the principle of non-interference in civilian government very seriously (although this means that in a worst case scenario there would likely be no military intervention against Trump until it too late). I know quite a few current and former Army and Air Force officers, and to a man they are scared shitless of Trump. Admittedly, as students in my old PhD program, they may not be the most representative sample.
If it ever comes to serious violence, it will be irregular militias and law enforcement types who will be doing the heavy lifting (one of the most likely precipitating events is a firefight between Feds and blue state cops). Unfortunately our side would be seriously outgunned in both areas. My guess is that the military sits it out until the very end and then emerge from their barracks to basically certify the result. They’ll play as much of a role in the actual fighting as the guy who enters the ring at the end of the boxing match to hand the winner his championship belt.
Individual service people and maybe whole units might desert and join in, but military leadership will likely keep whistling past the graveyard as long as is humanly possible, and then keep at it a bit longer than that.
Yarrow
@Timurid: Your scenario doesn’t inspire confidence. So the irregular militias and the local cops fight it out for control with the military stepping in to “certify the result”? There is no win for regular people in that. Police state.
hovercraft
@Mike in NC:
Conway, Coulter, and Barbara Olsen were all part of a strategy to combat the “liberal bias” on TV during the Clenis hunting of the 90’s, they were young attractive lawyers who were Phyllis Schlafley acolytes, their job was to go on TV and lie charmingly. ( Olsen died on 9/11).Over the last 30 years they have perfected the art, also having know the hosts for years, they have the added benefit of being friends with them so the hosts never truly call them on their bullshit.
Timurid
@Yarrow:
Yes, that will be horrible if/when it happens. But it’s (so far at least) still an unlikely outcome and far less immediate than Trump ordering tanks into the streets Pinochet-style.
Bex
@Timurid: You are right about “Silence.” All RWNJ “Christians” who whine about being persecuted should see it.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@hovercraft: I’ll never forget Chuck Todd simpering about how “She’s not just good at her job, she’s also a good person”
He’s such an asshole.
West of the Cascades
Where the fuck is Wikileaks and Julian Assange – shouldn’t they be hacking the RNC servers to expose the hypocrisy of private email servers?
Oh, yeah …
Woodrow/asim
@Smiling Mortician: This isn’t about “hate”, and never has been. “hate” is a smokescreen, an excuse, a way to stimulate the lizard brain to get an end result.
It’s been about power — or at least the perception of power — which is what White Supremacy, Dominionism, and so forth really plays to. It’s why you can leave out those countries and still have all these assholes giving Trump credit.
All the “true believers” care about is if the appointed boogypeople have been put in their place. It doesn’t matter if it’s effective, or useful. It doesn’t matter if it actually saves lives, or takes them. They want domination, and now they are getting it. And the fact that Trump left himself a huge out to make himself richer isn’t even a thought as they jerk off to their dreams come true, and future dreams of inflicting more terror in the name of safety.
And the worst part, the most terrifying part in some twisted way? All the power in the world, all the misery of others they can eek out, won’t make them one bit happier. Until we can talk them away from this mindset, nothing will make them stop.
So, otherwise, we gotta stand up, and put them back in their place.
SFAW
@Timurid:
I get no pleasure from ruminating on the idea that Wayne LaPierre, that fuck, may have an epiphany where he realizes that it’s Trump, not Hillary, who would be the one to come for “his” guns.
Of course, Wayne being a good ol’ white boy, he prolly has nothing to worry about. Hell, he’d probably lead the charge to take the guns away from non-whites.
[No, I’m not being Chicken Little; I don’t think this is a likely development. At least, not at this time.]
ProudGradofCatLadyAcademy
I’m going to my local airport Duluth International in MN to meet the last plane right now with a sign that says Refugees Welcome Here. I have a call out to Socialist Action contact, but I think I will be there by myself. I know it’s not much and it’s Duluth, it’s not like we are a major Gateway to the world, but we have a sizeable population of international students due to our 3 universities, plus It is the John Beargrease race, which does attract international attention.
Wish me luck, it probably will be just me the crazy lady with the sign.
Vhh
@Yarrow: REMEMBER one of Soviet emigre Masha Gessens’s key points about authoritarians: don’t count on institutions to protect you.
Jeffro
@PPCLI:
Absolutely. It was good enough for the GOP in TX
Jeffro
@Aleta: This is in opposition who a guy who essentially blew off the Pope and told him he’s wrong, as did about half the GOP Congress. It won’t be enough. We have to shame the remainder of the GOP, get big business leaders to understand what this will do to their business, and bang on the media.
Jeffro
@rikyrah:
I hate to put them on the spot, but these are the folks who are going to have to learn to disobey, “misinterpret”, or at least slow-walk their illegal orders until Trumpov and Co can be hauled into court. They have to.
frosty
@PPCLI:
Maryland did it. Take a look at the map, it’s insane.
The Lodger
@JMG: It’s spelled Erie. Helen will be glad to discuss the difference between Eire and Erie with you.
Chris T.
Perhaps it’s time to test out Poe’s Law some more, by posting comments along the lines: “As an American Christian, I heartily approve of President Trump’s breaking up families. We need more people from Egypt, Syria, and Sudan to have reasons to hate America. Making sure that those who were temporarily overseas for some critical humanitarian-aid reason, cannot rejoin their loved ones in the United States, should go far to turning both those overseas, and their remaining family members back home in the States, against America! And there’s nothing more American than having plenty of enemies at home and abroad, so that we can have more terrorism and more killing!”
wenchacha
@Mike in NC: I’m pretty sure Bannon is a practicing alcoholic. He sure looks it; maybe that’s his shtick. Trump ought to know that I judge him by his barfly spokesman.
Mnemosyne
Crowd at LAX blocking the entrance to the international terminal. Not a huge crowd, but people keep coming and going to keep it the same size.
Current chant: “Can’t build a wall, hands too small.”
ProudGradofCatLadyAcademy
I did it!
I drove to the James Oberstar Airport/Duluth International. I walked into the lobby and wrote out my sign, Refugees Welcome Here. My allies from Socialist Action did not show up, but it was such short notice I didn’t expect them to be there. Walked by the National Rental counter, where the cop who was talking to the rental agent looked at the sign and tells me I can’t protest in the terminal. I have to be down at the end of the building outside, in the wind and being Duluth, the cold. I am not sure he is correct, but I am by myself and I don’t feel like making an issue about it, the point is showing solidarity, not arguing with a cop. Both planes were very early and arrived way ahead of schedule so I am happy I arrived showed up early.
I stood outside the building at the end of the sidewalk with my sign and received a lot of looks but no reactions from cars or people exiting the terminal, which is okay. However one older white man exited out of the terminal, looked at my sign and started walking at me, and I think “this was a very bad idea, where’s my phone, oh my gosh I really didn’t tell any family members I was doing this, Oh please be okay, please don’t be a jerk, please don’t be a jerk” He looks at me, gives me a huge smile, and says “Thank you, Thank you so much thank you!” It made me almost cry.
I am going back tomorrow, and hopefully with more people standing with me And chapstick. and hand warmers. Definitely the chapstick though.
Off to soothe a cat who is upset her schedule is all messed up with her new radicalized owner.
sukabi
@Honus: that would be the only good thing to come out of this mess.
Dr. Ronnie James, D.O.
@Mike in NC: Bannon to me always looks like he just took a schvitz with his clothes on.
mere mortal
Groot is a fully-sentient ambulatory tree, with imaginative tactics, monetary tactics that advantage him with minimal effort, empathy, and all the rest.
He isn’t even semi-vocal, because even though his language consists of three words, it is intelligible by tone once you learn it.