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Balloon Juice

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans cannot even be trusted with their own money.

Prediction: the gop will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

The real work of an opposition party is to oppose.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

Sadly, media malpractice has become standard practice.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

When I decide to be condescending, you won’t have to dream up a fantasy about it.

Hi god, it’s us. Thanks a heap, you’re having a great week and it’s only Thursday!

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

No one could have predicted…

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

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Open Thread

by Sarah, Proud and Tall|  January 30, 201711:56 pm| 96 Comments

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  1. 1.

    MikeBoyScout

    January 31, 2017 at 12:08 am

    Please check out and provide your thoughts here or on Twitter re #OccupyAirports

  2. 2.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 31, 2017 at 12:12 am

    Wow, 22 separate BJ threads since midnight last night. That has to be close to some kind of record.

  3. 3.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    January 31, 2017 at 12:15 am

    Does anyone know of protests in NorCal tomorrow?

    Day off and I am ANGRY.

  4. 4.

    JordanRules

    January 31, 2017 at 12:20 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: Looking for one in Phoenix, AZ tomorrow too. No luck so far. We must resist now with all tools still available.

  5. 5.

    Tripod

    January 31, 2017 at 12:22 am

    Charles Koch says no to that idiotic border tax.

    Ryan and McConnell really should just wear their gimp suits publicly.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    January 31, 2017 at 12:22 am

    @SiubhanDuinne

    Balloon Juice: more threads than the Bayeux tapestry.

    ;)

  7. 7.

    Mnemosyne

    January 31, 2017 at 12:23 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    I know it probably won’t help you vent your anger, but you could stop by DiFi’s local office and make sure her staffers know that you want her to vote against Jeff Sessions. But you should be calm and polite about it, because staffers don’t want to help a crazy, abusive person.

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 12:24 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: Make a sign and go someplace.

  9. 9.

    Peale

    January 31, 2017 at 12:28 am

    @Tripod: which is why I now want the border tax. Make it 22%. Isn’t that the flat tax they’re always trying to foist in us?

  10. 10.

    BBA

    January 31, 2017 at 12:30 am

    Bold prediction: Trump will die in office. I don’t know if that’ll be in 20 days or 20 years.

  11. 11.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 31, 2017 at 12:30 am

    @Peale: It’s called the ‘fair tax’ now!

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 12:31 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    If no one seems to understand
    Start your own revolution and cut out the middleman
    In a perfect world we’d all sing in tune
    But this is reality so give me some room
    So join the struggle while you may
    The revolution is just a tee shirt away
    Waiting for the great leap forwards

  13. 13.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 12:36 am

    Inspiring terrorism.

    One, Éric Debroise, said he informed police Bissonnette is an “ultra nationalist white supremacist” while one of Bissonnette’s classmates, Jean-Michel Allard-Prus, said “he has right-wing political ideas, pro-Israel, anti-immigration. I had many debates with him about Trump. He was obviously pro-Trump.”

  14. 14.

    Lizzy L

    January 31, 2017 at 12:40 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: There’s a demo at Feinstein’s office, 1 Post Street, San Francisco at noon, and another at the Oakland Federal Building, 1301 Clay Street, from 12 noon to 2 pm, both to protest 45’s Cabinet choices and against a wall; they’re being organized by MoveOn and by Occupy.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 12:43 am

    found at another blog:

    Saw this comment today on Blog for Arizona.

    For Sure Not Tom | January 30, 2017 at 11:19 am | Reply

    Steve Bannon’s speeches, lectures, and his “documentaries” are free on youtube. Anyone can learn all about his plan for America from the horses mouth.

    He’ll say he’s a Nationalist, but not a White Nationalist, then go on to say very carefully worded versions of White Supremacist dogma.

    Bannon says we’re in the 4th great change to America, the first being the Declaration of Independence through signing the Constitution, next was the Civil War, third the Great Depression/WW2.

    All violent periods. This 4th period of change, the one we’re in now, the one he believes he’s leading us into, is going to bring America “back” to Judeo/Christian values.

    We all know what that means.

    I used to joke “forget baby Hitler, if you have a time machine go back and kill Baby Dick Cheney”.

    I think Bannon is going to make Cheney look like Ghandi. Putting him in charge of national security is madness.

    The war on the press is phase one, the war on brown people is phase two, this will bring about phase three, when our economy fails because even many small businesses can’t function if our immigration and trade policies aren’t stable.

    Bannon says the US government and economy must be destroyed, because his best ever White Christian’s only America will rise from the ashes, that it’s going to take 15 years or more and there will be very, very dark periods.

    Bannon was hoping that drunken-fist-fighting-walking-talking-word-jumble Sarah Palin would be his figurehead. She imploded and now he’s got Trump.

    There are similar movements in Russia and the EU. Aleksandr Dugin of all people endorsed Trump, that’s should have been a big bright red flag.

    I hope the GOP comes to its senses soon, but I’m not sure we can count on them. The banks and billionaires who own the Congress and Senate may be just fine with Bannon’s plans.

    The airport protests and the Women’s March are encouraging signs of an America waking up and remembering her values.

    Resist will be the Word of the Year for 2017.

    ……………………………

    This was an earlier comment from the same guy, For Sure Not Tom:

    For Sure Not Tom | January 30, 2017 at 8:33 am | Reply
    I keep telling people Steve Bannon is the real danger, Trump is just a puppet.

    Bannon has plans to join white nationalists in the US with similar movements in the EU and Russia.

    He’s studied why fascist movements have failed in the past and thinks he can avoid similar mistakes.

    The GOP is really dancing with the devil, and they don’t seem to care.

  16. 16.

    Mart

    January 31, 2017 at 12:43 am

    Digby recommended reading Amy Siskinds documentation of authoritarian changes over the past ten 10 weeks. Really breathtaking to run through. Week 11 is overdue, but expect she is overloaded by last week. While Googling for week 11 found that Siskind did a talk show with that Steve Bannon. Not sure what her perspective is now or then, but seems advertised as one of those Dems giving sympathy to the worst of the R’s. She reviewed Bannon’s 2011 film on Palin and her headline said, “The Movie I Wish Hillary had Made”. So this gets me to this quote from Bannon on his film on Palin: “I didn’t make this movie for Palinistas,” director and producer Stephen Bannon tells Art Attack. “I made this for middle America. There’s a meme out there put forth by the mainstream media that she’s ‘Caribou Barbie,’ that she’s a bimbo, and the empirical evidence is the exact opposite.”

    And you know, after getting clobered by rural whites, Siskind had a good point.

  17. 17.

    Tripod

    January 31, 2017 at 12:44 am

    Illinois AFSCME is taking a strike vote.

  18. 18.

    bluehill

    January 31, 2017 at 12:45 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn: ACLU has an office in SF. Helping them raise money to battle Trump in the courts seems like an effective way to slow down Trump.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 12:46 am

    Wajahat Ali ‏@WajahatAli

    As a Muslim asked to condemn Muslim extremists for 16 years, I call on moderate Republicans to condemn Alt-Right and Steve #Bannon. Step up.

  20. 20.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 31, 2017 at 12:46 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    What town are you in or near? Chico has something downtown every Saturday morning, a group of liberal sign holders on a certain corner… they’ve been doing it for years.

  21. 21.

    Peale

    January 31, 2017 at 12:47 am

    @Major Major Major Major: I know, I know. They’ll just pass it on to consumers. Which I guess is something like you and me. It’s as if they care so much about us little folk, that we’re top of mind when it comes to reasons to cut their taxes, reasons they need tort reform so we can’t sue them, reasons why they need to be able to dump paper mill chemicals in rivers, reasons why they can’t give their workers a raise. It’s as if standing up for us common folk motivates their every desire to do good things.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 12:52 am

    Price Got ‘Privileged’ Offer for Stock in Company
    January 30, 2017

    HHS nominee Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) “got a privileged offer to buy a biomedical stock at a discount, the company’s officials said, contrary to his congressional testimony this month,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

    “The shares were discounted 12% off the traded price in mid-June only for investors who participated in a private placement arranged to raise money to complete a clinical trial. The company’s shares have tripled since the offering.”

  23. 23.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    January 31, 2017 at 12:53 am

    @Lizzy L: Okay, thanks so much.

    Me and Mr. DDD will be there with our rainbow flag.

  24. 24.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    January 31, 2017 at 12:54 am

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): I’m very near Chico but would rather not say (small town).

  25. 25.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 12:54 am

    Democratic effort to overturn Trump travel ban blocked in Senate
    Mon Jan 30, 2017 | 6:21pm EST

    Democratic U.S. senators tried to force a vote on a bill to rescind President Donald Trump’s order banning travel from seven Muslim-majority nations on Monday, but were blocked by a Republican lawmaker.

    Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein said she had 27 co-sponsors of a bill to rescind the order Trump signed on Friday, but under Senate rules it takes only one member to prevent a vote.

    Republican Senator Tom Cotton blocked consideration of the measure.

  26. 26.

    Steve in the ATL

    January 31, 2017 at 12:55 am

    Anything going on in PDX this week?

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 12:57 am

    David Frum Verified account
    ‏@davidfrum

    Almost every official you think will protect you is removable by the president.

    How to Build an Autocracy

    The preconditions are present in the U.S. today. Here’s the playbook Donald Trump could use to set the country down a path toward illiberalism.

  28. 28.

    MP

    January 31, 2017 at 1:00 am

    @Steve in the ATL: Well if you were asking about PDK, I’d be up for a beer, a burger and a hearty “Fuck You” at The Downwind…

  29. 29.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:00 am

    Patrick McCray
    ‏@LeapingRobot

    The viciousness of Trumpism in action = dismantling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 exhibit at Library of Congress
    #notmypresident

  30. 30.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:02 am

    David Yankovich Verified account
    ‏@DavidYankovich

    I hope everyone is putting the pieces together.

    Russia wanted Brexit to destabilize EU.
    Russia wants US out of UN/NATO

    He’s preparing war.

  31. 31.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 31, 2017 at 1:03 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    Gotcha. I grew up in a very nearby small town that was known for pine trees and hostility towards most people of color. It’s gotten better, but it’s still very red around here.

  32. 32.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:04 am

    David Yankovich Verified account
    ‏@DavidYankovich

    Okay, this is important.

    Republicans in Congress are shutting their phones off, hanging up on people, and hiding.

    Why isn’t media on it?

  33. 33.

    Tripod

    January 31, 2017 at 1:06 am

    @Steve in the ATL:

    An online clearing house for direct action would be useful.

  34. 34.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:08 am

    Ron Hogan @RonHogan

    The Nazis murdered Sen. Schumer’s great-grandmother, and most of her children.

    Trump’s father was arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally.

  35. 35.

    JordanRules

    January 31, 2017 at 1:08 am

    @rikyrah: Cotton. Not surprised. SMDH

  36. 36.

    NotMax

    January 31, 2017 at 1:10 am

    @rikyrah

    Picturing Paul Ryan guzzling Pepto Bismol.

  37. 37.

    Tripod

    January 31, 2017 at 1:11 am

    @JordanRules:

    Just keep pressing them.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:13 am

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    IMPORTANT. Donald Trump filed with @FEC for 2020 reelection on January 20th, 2017. This is major for several reasons. /1

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    First and foremost, it is NOT NORMAL. Obama filed for 2012 reelection in April 2011. Incumbent declaring before midterms is unheard of. /2

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    Several MAJOR implications. If officially a candidate, can use candidate status to curry favor with PACs, businesses, other organizations /3

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    Because he’s acting as Trump the candidate, not Trump the president. Different rules apply. /4

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    Even more importantly – completely changes how non profits can handle him. 501c3’s cannot “campaign” or risk losing nonprofit status. /5

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    It means they can’t speak negatively about him. Imagine @PPact having to convey risk to #PlannedParenthood w/ limits on how to address. /6

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    This throws nonprofits’ strategy for next few years into chaos. They must figure out how to work against Trump w/o “campaigning.” /7

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    And further muddies the already swampy ethical waters of financial gain, #conflictsofinterest & business transactions. /8

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    Filed 5PM #InaugurationDay2017. 5 HOURS after swearing in. This is what #TheResistance is up against. /9

    The Resisterhood
    ‏@resisterhood

    Diabolical maneuvering to skirt all conventional forms of #resistance. Norms don’t matter; it’s all about finding new ways to silence us /10

  39. 39.

    Cacti

    January 31, 2017 at 1:14 am

    I missed the thread on it earlier, but huge respect to Sally Yates.

    First Trump came for the Muslims, and Sally Yates said not today motherfucker!

    May we all show similar resolve.

  40. 40.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 1:15 am

    @efgoldman: Actually, this is new. In his testimony Price said it was a broad offer – the company said, no, actually it was an exclusive offer for him.

  41. 41.

    waysel

    January 31, 2017 at 1:16 am

    @Tripod: YES!

  42. 42.

    Lizzy L

    January 31, 2017 at 1:17 am

    @rikyrah: Thanks for that link. That’s an excellent and very scary piece of writing.

  43. 43.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 1:17 am

    @rikyrah: You know that some people read this blog on their phones, right?

  44. 44.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 1:19 am

    @rikyrah: That analysis has been refuted by a number of campaign lawyers. It’s not uncommon for congress to file immediately after winning as filing really only allows them to raise money. It doesn’t really impact how nonprofits can speak about the candidate. The only think they are restricted from saying is that they ‘oppose candidate Trump’, but they would never say that now since nobody thinks of trump as a candidate. They can still attack his policies – and can do so right up to the election.

  45. 45.

    Mike J

    January 31, 2017 at 1:21 am

    @Cacti: Have you seen the clip from her confirmation hearing? Sessions asking her if an AG should ignore the wishes of the president if he asks for something illegal?

  46. 46.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 1:22 am

    The protests are great and if they stay big they’ll harm Trump politically and personally but we need a solid defense for peoples’ right to vote or it’s all for naught. What the Trump Administration did to the refugees? They’ll do something like that to stop people who don’t support them from voting, we’ll be blindsided, and the ensuing chaos will work to their advantage.

    Sessions is a disaster and he’s a Trump true believer. No one will be able to rely on the justice department to enforce voting rights laws when Trump goes after voters. We essentially have to replace what should be the work of government workers with privately-paid people and we have to cover a huge area of the country- 30 states. That may not even be enough because if they can create enough chaos and confusion around voting lawsuits won’t matter.

    We need a national plan for when they go after voters. They will do it. There won’t be time for protests if they move a week before the next election and elections are over in 12 hours.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    January 31, 2017 at 1:22 am

    @Cacti:

    Unfortunately, she was summarily fired.

  48. 48.

    joel hanes

    January 31, 2017 at 1:24 am

    President Donald Trump replaced the acting director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Monday night, shortly after he fired the acting attorney general, the Department of Homeland Security confirmed.

    Unlike the firing of Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, the replacement of Acting ICE Director Daniel Ragsdale came with no explanation. Ragsdale was replaced by Thomas Homan, ICE’s executive associate director of enforcement and removal operations since 2013.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-replaces-acting-director-immigration-enforcement-n714491

  49. 49.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 1:26 am

    @Kay: Voting is the responsibility of the states, and relying on the feds to keep the states in line has clearly not been a very effective strategy. There’s not much Trump can do to make voting worse in states that oppose him (like CA) but Dems need to focus at the state level in places where the state itself wants to make things worse.

  50. 50.

    amk

    January 31, 2017 at 1:26 am

    @Kay:

    They’ll do something like that to stop people who don’t support them from voting, we’ll be blindsided, and the ensuing chaos will work to their advantage.

    Thanks Kay for your consistent voicing of voting concerns. Dems are always being blindsided by the thugs and then are fighting with rearguard actions.

  51. 51.

    hilts

    January 31, 2017 at 1:26 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    22 separate BJ threads since midnight last night. That has to be close to some kind of record.

    It makes sense given the fact that Trump is setting new records for scumbaggery with each passing day.

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    January 31, 2017 at 1:26 am

    @Kay:

    They’re going to do something. The problem is figuring out what it is. If it’s impossible to go to court to counter something, what other options exist?

    ETA: We already know after the last few days that Republicans will refuse to follow court orders. Now what?

  53. 53.

    joel hanes

    January 31, 2017 at 1:27 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    [Yates] was summarily fired.

    If I understand correctly, in a normal administration she’d have waited for the new DOJ head to be confirmed, and then accepted a lower-ranking job somewhere in the DOJ. For standing up for what’s right, she’s out of government service for the duration of the facist occupation.

    She’s a hero; sacrificed her career to make a ten-hour public rebuke of the fascist Republican President.

  54. 54.

    bluehill

    January 31, 2017 at 1:30 am

    Video from Yates confirmation hearing. So timely and ironic.

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    January 31, 2017 at 1:30 am

    @joel hanes:

    Heroism only goes so far when you fail to actually stop the speeding freight train that’s on a collision course with a school bus.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    January 31, 2017 at 1:33 am

    I can tell I’m starting to get back to that bad, despairing place, so I should probably sign off. ‘Night, all.

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 1:34 am

    @Kay: Kay, people are showing up. Do not denigrate that.

  58. 58.

    elm

    January 31, 2017 at 1:36 am

    @Mnemosyne: She did something good and valuable. Trump firing her draws attention to the illegality of his EO. If anything stops his lawless behavior, its things like Yates’s opposition and Trump firing her.

  59. 59.

    amk

    January 31, 2017 at 1:38 am

    @Mnemosyne: wow, really? she did her job valiantly and got fired for it and this is your reaction?

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 1:42 am

    @Mnemosyne: She stood up. That is the best anyone can do.

  61. 61.

    rikyrah

    January 31, 2017 at 1:47 am

    @Kay:
    I hear you, Kay, and ICAM

  62. 62.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 1:48 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’m not denigrating it. Voting is different. Voting takes advance planning and anticipating their moves. It isn’t like ending an executive action or overturning a law. You get 12 hours. If they pull some crazy shit with Sessions’ backing a week before an election we’ll wish we had prepared. Just assume they will do it, if they don’t it pays off anyway. God almighty they’re practically shouting it from the rooftops with the people they’re hiring and what they’re saying.

    If we think it’s bad now wait until they start treating disfavored voters like they treat immigrants, refugees and green card holders. Trump’s policy is irrational. It’s designed to appeal to his base. His base believe there are millions of illegal voters.

  63. 63.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 1:54 am

    @rikyrah:

    I knew Sessions was a Trump loyalist and I knew Sessions had a lousy record on civil rights but I did not know Sessions shares the alt Right views on nationalism. They will go after voters. It’s all but guaranteed. We can be blindsided and outraged or we can be prepared and get there before they do. You don’t get a do-over on an election.

    I think it’s in the national interest. There will be actual unrest if they go after voters. Voting is the safety valve- it’s the peaceful, controlled, rule-bound action that acts as an outlet for public anger.

  64. 64.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 31, 2017 at 1:56 am

    @Kay: I know what voting is. You know that I do. What do you want to do? I know the answer is more machines in populated areas. And letting people vote.

  65. 65.

    amk

    January 31, 2017 at 2:02 am

    @Kay: yup, the left and the dems got played as recently as last nov. and the thugs, having tasted a huge success with it, will double down on it. you can bet on it.

  66. 66.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:03 am

    Nick BaumannVerified account
    ‏@NickBaumann
    It’s not fascism for the president to fire an official he has the legal power to fire + who won’t do what he wants.

    Moron. The President orders the attorney general to issue an order where certain people have to go to internment camps. The attorney general refuses. The President fires the attorney general and finds a government lawyer who will issue the order. You’re well on your way to fascism although it was “legal” to fire the attorney general!

  67. 67.

    JordanRules

    January 31, 2017 at 2:05 am

    @Kay: The demonstrations are a firewall for right now because you are absolutely right. They are going to go after voters. ACLU and others were running from airports to courthouses over the weekend. Same will happen for actions against voters. I don’t see a particular deficit here with regards to those fighting within the system and institutions. I believe you even expressed in a thread a few days back how all of this was going too fast for you. That is all by design and the folks uniquely positioned to fight this for maximum impact are dealing with that disadvantage as well.

    So we protest damnet!!! And we continue to get legal stuff ready, prepare via multiple methods, use social media and educate folks …..they fire Yates. Cotton does his thing. I mean, you see what’s happening here.

  68. 68.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 2:06 am

    @joel hanes: Don’t feel too bad for her. One reason why high level govt officials and private executives get paid so well is that they have relatively little job security. Resigning or being let go is part of the deal. It sucks, sure, but they know the deal going in.

  69. 69.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:08 am

    @amk:

    They need paid people in every high-risk county who are locals and know state voting laws. Then they need another layer atop that for federal laws intersecting with the state laws. You’re essentially replacing a whole section of government that will be either MIA or actively opposing voting rights. Volunteers won’t be enough. We need a quasi-government structure to replace the GOP government that will either fail or work against voters.

  70. 70.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:13 am

    @amk:

    They should first identify high-risk counties. They have a ton of data and it’s not all 50 states- it’s about 30 states that are GOP-run. They could narrow the job substantially. Have most of the preparation done by the time douchebag and the loyalists make their move. They need it for 2020 anyway. Start now and they’ll be better prepared when it happens the week prior to the midterms.

  71. 71.

    amk

    January 31, 2017 at 2:16 am

    @Kay: Makes perfect sense to me. Dems better have some think tanks bankrolled by their own big ticket donors working on this instead of wasting millions on stupid attack ads.

  72. 72.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 2:16 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Look, we’re doing the right thing on voting. We just can’t see the end game yet. California has automatic voter registration. We have effectively no gerrymandering. I have never seen a line at a polling place in CA. Starting in 2018, we go 100% vote by mail.

    We get a LOT right about voting here in this state, enough so that the President feels that we stole the popular vote from him, and it sounds like he may come gunning for us. Fine. But we’re also going to help bring more states into this future, make it harder for legislatures to discriminate against in-person voting, creating various barriers.

    Dems do have plans, and you see them being carried out in California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado. The feds can’t stop it, and we just need to work to get the public mobilized in other states to demand the same.

  73. 73.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:18 am

    Maggie Haberman ‏@maggieNYT 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Ivanka and Jared seem to seek some distance from the weekend’s humanitarian spectacle, thru pages of mag they know

    The NYTimes is now devoted full time to explaining away how horrible this family is. The entire paper is like this- “the Trumps aren’t so bad! They’re secretly very good people, although admittedly nothing they do would indicate that at all!”

    They’re the KellyAnne Conway of newspapers. “If we knew what was in his heart…”

  74. 74.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:22 am

    @amk:

    wasting millions on stupid attack ads.

    I agree. I would like to see them reallocate all media spending to hiring people on the ground. Television news hates them anyway. Stop pumping millions of donor dollars into tv ads. Hire people who live in these states. Don’t “deploy” people to states. Hire the people who live and work there. They could reallocate tens of millions of dollars from media to productive use.

  75. 75.

    Kay

    January 31, 2017 at 2:28 am

    Rep. Dave Brat, R-7th, is feeling some political pressure as Republicans in Congress move to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
    “Since Obamacare and these issues have come up, the women are in my grill no matter where I go,” Brat told an audience Saturday at a meeting of conservative groups at Hanover Tavern.
    “They come up — ‘When is your next town hall?’ And believe me, it’s not to give positive input.”
    Brat, R-7th, asked the GOP-friendly audience to get organized.
    “Help us write newspaper articles. We’re getting hammered,” he said.

    “Write newspaper articles”. They probably actually do that.

  76. 76.

    JordanRules

    January 31, 2017 at 2:36 am

    @Kay: Agree with both you and @amk. Also think that the protests might be a good place to mine for resources. I have many other reasons for supporting them full heartedly, but I think there can be something particularly beneficial for your targeted and important argument.

    Moral Mondays + longer term strategies employed in NC can be instructive, no?

  77. 77.

    amk

    January 31, 2017 at 2:44 am

    @Kay: Stop making sense, will ya ? :)

    I really would like to see some one study the RoR on those teevee ads. the racist rapist pos leveraged the social media to his full advantage without spending a sou on them.

  78. 78.

    gene108

    January 31, 2017 at 3:04 am

    @rikyrah:

    I used to joke “forget baby Hitler, if you have a time machine go back and kill Baby Dick Cheney”.

    I’d go with baby Rupert Murdoch. He’s poisoned the media across the English speaking world, and this deteriorated the public discourse and politics.

  79. 79.

    Darkrose

    January 31, 2017 at 3:29 am

    SF Giants Twitter has been glorious over the past 36 hours, dragging one-time World Series hero Aubrey Huff. He tweeted (has since deleted it):

    I mean seriously what the hell is going on? If you have time 2 march, protest and riot. Maybe it’s time for something called a job!

    — AUBREY HUFF (@aubrey_huff) January 30, 2017

    For you non-Giants fans, Huff is best known for his role in the 2010 World Series, and in particular, the Rally Thong that became his symbol. At the 2010 parade, he stood on the steps of City Hall and pulled a red thong out of his pants. One of the Giants beat writers replied:

    @aubrey_huff how do you feel about people attending a parade on a Wednesday?— Alex Pavlovic (@AlexPavlovic) January 30, 2017

    Huff’s also known for signing a 2 year/$22 million deal for 2011-12 and playing abysmal ball. In May of 2012 he had a massive anxiety attack and disappeared for a couple of days. Now that he’s found Jesus, he’s written a book about anxiety, depression, and Adderall addiction. His agent probably called him this morning and screamed, “What the fuck are you doing?!” because Giants fans took to Amazon to express their disapproval:

    (one star) No time to read
    Doing my job 100% of the time during my non-sleeping life, so didn’t have time to read it.

  80. 80.

    Darkrose

    January 31, 2017 at 3:34 am

    Giants fans on Twitter have been dragging the hell out of former fan favorite Aubrey Huff. Last night he tweeted (since deleted):

    I mean seriously what the hell is going on? If you have time 2 march, protest and riot. Maybe it’s time for something called a job!

    — AUBREY HUFF (@aubrey_huff) January 30, 2017

    The best response was from one of the Giants beat writers:

    @aubrey_huff how do you feel about people attending a parade on a Wednesday?— Alex Pavlovic (@AlexPavlovic) January 30, 2017

    Huff’s agent probably woke up and screamed at him this morning. He has a book out about his struggles with anxiety, depression, and Adderall addiction (Baseball Junkie on Amazon) and Giants fans have not been kind in the reviews.

  81. 81.

    Darkrose

    January 31, 2017 at 3:36 am

    Giants fans on Twitter have been dragging the hell out of former fan favorite Aubrey Huff. Last night he tweeted (since deleted):

    I mean seriously what the hell is going on? If you have time 2 march, protest and riot. Maybe it’s time for something called a job?

    The best response was from one of the Giants beat writers, Alex Pavlovic:

    how do you feel about people attending a parade on a Wednesday?

    Huff’s agent probably woke up and screamed at him this morning. He has a book out about his struggles with anxiety, depression, and addiction (Baseball Junkie on Amazon) and Giants fans have not been kind in the reviews.

  82. 82.

    joel hanes

    January 31, 2017 at 3:49 am

    @Dog Dawg Damn:

    I’m very near Chico but would rather not say (small town).

    A small town built on a high ridge next to a canyon, that was very goddamned beautiful until the forest burned a few years back ? A small town with a road leading down into that canyon that has been painted extensively by generations of local high school students?

    Next time you’re in the Madison Bear Garden, have a bucket of wings for me. Or if wings aren’t your thing, a peanut.

    We used to have St. James Infirmary here in Silicon Valley (same restaurant company, same menu, similar decor)
    but it burned down and they elected not to rebuild. A real loss.
    I think one of the reasons my ex married me is that on a whim, I took her there dancing on on Christmas Eve.

    I love the Bear Garden, but Chico is a loong drive for a beer.

  83. 83.

    opiejeanne

    January 31, 2017 at 3:53 am

    @bluehill: Did you know that the ACLU is currently swimming in money? They raised $24 million in about 10 days. Normal for them is $4 million in a year if I read their article correctly. .

  84. 84.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 31, 2017 at 3:56 am

    The final numbers on the Louisville rally were in the vicinity of 6000, which may be light. I think more like 10000 to 20000, as the Ali Center amphitheater alone has seating for nearly 4000.

    They were overflowing big time – I was close to the dais (assisted writing one speech so I wanted to encourage the speaker from up front). They filled the plaza, spilled out on the steps, up both sides of the walk and then to my office half a block away. I stood with a woman I work with (a Bosnian Muslim refugee who is a damn fine lawyer), her initial immigration local contact, and a guy I go to church with whose grandfather was a German Jew that escaped the Nazis. On the stage was the daughter of another lawyer I work with, he’s a Pakistani Muslim who is now a citizen. Two of my daughter had to wait out across the street, the crowd was so thick.

    The mayor is married to a Greek daughter of a couple who escaped to this country from the Greek civil war. He was just plain pissed. So uplifting.

    Today, Yertle’s office gets protested, 11:30 am. I’m going to be there.

  85. 85.

    Aussie Sheila

    January 31, 2017 at 4:02 am

    @gene108:
    @gene108

    Absolutely.

  86. 86.

    ? Martin

    January 31, 2017 at 4:10 am

    @opiejeanne: They raised $24M in 48 hours. And yes, that’s 6x their normal annual haul.

  87. 87.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 31, 2017 at 4:25 am

    So there was a small counter protest across the street from Ali Center, at the entrance to my parking garage.

    Counter protesters are in the group on the left.

    My daughters were in the group shouting down the counters, who mainly drifted off. There were some anarchists in the street spillage, which got some eye rolling from the daughters.

    Plaza video of the upper crowd picked up off Twitter.

    Here’s the street spillage of the crowd – it is overflowed to nearly my office (which is the building top left, across the street).

  88. 88.

    Gin & Tonic

    January 31, 2017 at 5:02 am

    Fucking insomnia again.

    So the pace of Russian attacks in eastern Ukraine has stepped up considerably in the last couple of days. The town of Avdiyivka is a hellscape, with probably half the population supposed to be evacuated today. Gee, I wonder if there’s any correlation between that and Il Donaldo’s phone call with Vladimir Vladimirovich?

  89. 89.

    Spanky

    January 31, 2017 at 5:24 am

    @Gin & Tonic: Also maybe Vlad’s sense that his orange Mini-Me has a limited shelf life, and his window of opportunity is shrinking.

  90. 90.

    CarolDuhart2

    January 31, 2017 at 5:31 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Vote by mail in every state that you can get it. Machines are not reliable-and we are dealing with machines that are locked away for months somewhere we don’t know about it. And bring back hand counts, too. No more secret servers in a server farm somewhere. I know it’s slow, but it’s reliable.

    Also, pay attention to those local/statehouse elections. Voting rules can change with who’s in the legislative majority.

  91. 91.

    Shalimar

    January 31, 2017 at 5:33 am

    @rikyrah: So Bannon’s great plan is:
    1) War on press
    2) War on brown people
    3) Destruction of our society
    4) ?????
    5) nirvana

    Even Hitler had a better plan than that.

  92. 92.

    Shalimar

    January 31, 2017 at 5:47 am

    @Shalimar: Crap. I figured out what #4 is. Bannon’s entire future vision is based on genocide of every race he considers non-white. Whites are going to be the dominant race after the dark, dark period because that post-government period consists of them exterminating everyone else. He wants to get rid of our current government because it coddles minorities and keeps genocide from happening. Bannon really is more evil than Hitler.

  93. 93.

    Bruce K

    January 31, 2017 at 6:24 am

    Just found out yesterday afternoon that I may have to travel from Greece to the US to have surgery sometime this spring. Only now I’m not sure it’ll be safe to travel by then. My sweetheart in Baltimore is already talking about putting together a bug-out bag and arranging to ride out Armageddon with family out in the Plains.

    The stress isn’t doing me any good, either, and spring seems a million years away at the moment. I’m on the wrong continent, the wrong side of the planet to help, it seems to me, and it’s tearing me up to see what’s happening back home. I’m stuck for ideas on how to help, what to do.

  94. 94.

    laura

    January 31, 2017 at 8:51 am

    @Mnemosyne: and if you go to Feinstein’s office, please ask the staff to hire more staff to go through the voice mails, I’ve been calling over a week to both DC and SF and on the few times I can get through the vm is full.
    Thanks a bushel and a peck!

  95. 95.

    Larkspur

    January 31, 2017 at 10:43 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: As soon as I finish this dog-sitting gig, I’m going make a sign and stand by the stoplight near a heavily travelled on-ramp to 101, right at the morning commute to the San Francisco. That would be tomorrow, so I have get my sign-makin’ skills up ASAP. I like all the signs, but I want one with few but huge-font words.

  96. 96.

    Larkspur

    January 31, 2017 at 10:45 am

    @Bruce K: Oh, Bruce K, that is rough. Your first job is to keep yourself healthy. We need you healthy and safe.

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