Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

T R E 4 5 O N

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

“Squeaker” McCarthy

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

You don’t get to peddle hatred on saturday and offer condolences on sunday.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Prediction: the GOP will rethink its strategy of boycotting future committees.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Second rate reporter says what?

The arc of history bends toward the same old fuckery.

Nothing worth doing is easy.

Let there be snark.

I really should read my own blog.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

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Here’s cheering your team, Raven!

Token political content for the rest of us:

Serial plagiarist Ben Domenech:

On Sunday, President Trump will continue one of President Obama’s Super Bowl traditions: a televised pregame interview, in this case with Bill O’Reilly of Fox News. While Mr. Trump is rarely one to shun the cameras, on this day I hope he will reconsider, and give the nation an opportunity to enjoy the game free of his presence.

Andrew Breitbart, whose namesake publication was an important factor in the election of Mr. Trump, was fond of saying that American politics is downstream from culture. Yet in the early days of the Trump era, it seems clear that the reverse is true. From television to comedy to sports, politics surrounds and engulfs us, leaving us no space to gather as citizens without giving a thought to it.

American culture today is infected with politics to a degree that it hurts our ability to share cultural moments and experiences with people who have different views. The problem isn’t the CNN “breaking news” headlines that increase blood pressure for the political addicts among us. It is that it is now impossible to consume media without the constant encroachment of political divisiveness and partisan tribalism…

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  2. 2.

    JMG

    I can watch the game and still laugh at those clowns at the same time. Isn’t hard. There’s a little downtime during the Super Bowl, as you may have noticed. Besides, I have the feeling this one will be pretty much over early in the fourth quarter, unless Atlanta’s defense surprises me.

  4. 4.

    Ajabu

    This is completely OT (I don’t do oblong ball) but I feel compelled to share it:
    I have to share this because it’s hilarious in a perverse – I CAN’T EVEN – kind of way.
    My wife was just talking to a relative — who shall remain nameless to protect the ignorant —and the subject of a mutual acquaintance who is ill came up.
    Said relative volunteered that perhaps (because the ill person was a Vietnam era vet) he was suffering from Asian Orange which, he explained, is something you catch from too much contact with Asians.
    Option B: Maybe he has Old Timers disease (the one that Reagan succumbed to).
    This relative has a college degree – acquired in Alabama – apparently from the school of “sort of sounds like” education.
    Makes you wonder what sort of information was imparted to Jefferson Beauregard Sessions in Law School in the same region, doesn’t it?…

  5. 5.

    ThresherK

    @jeffreyw: When I clicked on that I expected some cheese concoction with a layer of slivered almonds on it, shaped like an owl.

    It would not be the silliest-shaped food item on the internet today.

  9. 9.

    trollhattan

    Finding myself shifting from my usual ‘hawks to these birds, happy to set aside intra-conference rivalry for the day. Beside, Quinn was the DC for Seattle’s last superb owls.

    Falcons by 4.

  10. 10.

    hovercraft

    Ben is just concerned that with such a huge national audience, Twitler will expose his stupidity and crassness to so many people they won’t be able to claim he was taken out of context. He should relax though, FOX will do all in it’s power to make him look as good as he can. It’s a pre-taped interview, so they can shine the turd up. Well it will still be a turd, but it’ll be a nice shiny Trumpenturd.

  14. 14.

    JGabriel

    Ben Domenech via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    While Mr. Trump is rarely one to shun the cameras, on this day I hope he will reconsider, and give the nation an opportunity to enjoy the game free of his presence.

    David Simon:

    … the publisher of The Federalist urges the republic to better attend to bread and gladiator-filled circuses …

    Gee, I wonder why all these Republicans and Conservatives suddenly want everyone to stop thinking about politics?

    It’s almost like they don’t want anyone thinking about how they’re in charge of the country’s government now, and how their leader is Donald Trump – a weak, crude, fascist, vulgar, narcissistic, bipolar, ADHD-addled, racist, crooked, lying, grifting, conning, disgusting, treasonous, Putin-loving, hate-spewing, popular-vote-losing authoritarian charlatan with age-related onset dementia.

    I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t want Americans thinking about and discussing that.

  15. 15.

    Bruuuuce

    Audi takes its shot at SCROTUS and The Gang with this ad celebrating women’s abilities and questioning whether they’ll receive equal pay.

    If I were in the market for a car, I know the first brand I’d look at right now.

  16. 16.

    geg6

    Way, way, way. Way to whine, Ben. Your butthurt is that American culture is overwhelmingly liberal and you don’t want your dweeby nose rubbed in it. Gaga or someone will surely offend him worse.

  18. 18.

    Betty Cracker

    Quoth the plagiarist:

    Breaking down the walls between us is easier to do when our culture is not so politicized — when we can feel free to watch, laugh and cheer alongside our fellow Americans without catching ourselves wondering how they voted. That is the healthier way to live, particularly in the era of Donald Trump.

    He doesn’t get it. Most cons don’t. It wasn’t just another election. Republicans voted for a racist, sexist, xenophobic demagogue. This isn’t an “agree to disagree” thing.

  21. 21.

    JMG

    Alex Jones reports Lady Gaga will conduct a Satanic ritual at halftime. Usually that’s when I hit the party buffet, but not this year!!!

  28. 28.

    hovercraft

    @Yarrow:
    At the mention of the Patriots name, my little one’s automatic correction is “you mean the cheaters”, so you know this household will be with the Falcons.
    Big Up ATL !!

  29. 29.

    polyorchnid octopunch

    Domenich is a fool, given the post just a few down that talks about how advertising works in the superbowl. Got bad news for ya, Domenich: the superbowl is political.

  30. 30.

    donnah

    @Betty Cracker:

    So much this! I get lambasted for stubbornly refusing to acknowledge trump as “president” and I tell them that if a legitimate Republican candidate had won, I would have been disappointed and pissed, but not heartsick and terrified. They aren’t seeing the trump for what he is and what he has the potential to destroy. He’s giving the radical republicans exactly what they wanted, and they’re a lost cause, but the moderate republicans, if they even exist, pretend he’s just getting used to the office. bullshine.

  31. 31.

    Frank Wilhoit

    If a stopped clock is right twice a day, then even Ben Domenech gets, or got, to be right exactly once in his life. “American culture today is infected with politics to a degree that…” The key insight here is that totalitarianism is not a matter of what kind of politics you have; it is a matter of how much politics you have, specifically the areas of life (law, science, medicine, art, etc.) that become contaminated with politics that ought to be free of it.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    We’re still in the endless pregame festivities, right?

    I’ve been taking care of a few errands, got home and have not even turned on the TV.

    Not much interest in the game. Absolutely no interest in the usually bombastic commercials, except I guess for the unintentionally pro immigration beer commercial.

  35. 35.

    JPL

    @Ryan: Maybe he’ll be on at five, because I didn’t adjust for the time zone change. I won’t watch him, but I’ll check for updates.

  36. 36.

    Ryan

    @donnah: Never use the words Trump and preznit in the same sentence. That only legitimizes that he lost the popular vote. Trump is not the problem, Ryan and McConnell are the problem They see what we see, they’re too craven to change course.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    @Ryan: It was taped ahead, so maybe the pres realized he shouldn’t have compared us to Russia. hmmm We are all murdering thugs now!

  42. 42.

    Anne Laurie

    @Ryan:

    Perhaps out prima donna is unnerved?

    The interview was pre-taped yesterday — it’s the one Fox ‘teased’ with Trump’s would-be tough-guy quote about how Putin might’ve killed some critics but, “You think America’s never killed anybody?”

    That did not go over very well, not even with Fox’s target viewing audience, so maybe they got unnerved…

  43. 43.

    Mike J

    @chris: I flunked it first time, eked through the second, got a Commodore 64 over the summer and in a month taught myself enough trig and calculus to write games. When school restarted, I got kicked out of computer literacy class for turning in all the assignments in 6502 assembler instead of basic.

  45. 45.

    hovercraft

    @RobertDSC-iPhone 6:
    If the ownership and coach and quarterback were not scummy enough to turn people off, the support for and of the scum now residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave would be enough to turn millions against them.

    Go FALCONS, fuck the Pats, I mean the Cheaters!!!

  46. 46.

    Mike G

    American culture today is infected with politics to a degree that it hurts our ability to share cultural moments and experiences with people who have different views.

    And whose fucking fault is that, Mr. War on Christmas?
    rightards have relentlessly politicized everything for holiday greetings to which bathroom trans people choose to investigating election espionage, so they can go screw themselves with a chainsaw.

  49. 49.

    hovercraft

    @Betty Cracker:

    He doesn’t get it. Most cons don’t.

    You are being generous with that most.
    I’m pretty sure that since they don’t see, race and gender and everything else they claim not to see, they are shocked at the reaction they are getting now. They stole the 2000 election and the dems just meekly fell into their place and let them do as they pleased, why we aren’t doing so now is a mystery to them. They don’t get that the bubble they live in is in fact a bubble, full of white people like them who are scared of the colored gay menace that is overtaking their country, they are having a very traumatic introduction to reality. It’s not going to be pleasant.

  50. 50.

    trollhattan

    Just received an email ad from a car part place with a sale on digital tyre gauges with subject line: Move over Brady, we got this. Heh

  51. 51.

    aimai

    I think Trump is going to increasingly have trouble doing these little “nice touch” things that Obama and Michelle did–hell Melania had to hire one of Obama’s people to run the white house tours for her–because its just going to be so obvious how hated Trump is. Or, at any rate, he doesn’t want to be loved by the kind of people who do love him. He wants Hollyweird and glamorous people to talk about him and want to be seen with him. So every single thing that Obama ever did: play basketball, greet the troops, throw out a baseball, do (stupid) sports related bonding events, Trump is going to promise to do and then avoid.

  52. 52.

    chris

    @Mike J: We weren’t allowed to use slide rules in class and did everything in longhand. It was uphill both ways! I’ve learned a lot since then and do know what you’re talking about, good for you.

  54. 54.

    Baud

    @aimai:

    Or, at any rate, he doesn’t want to be loved by the kind of people who do love him

    I don’t think this can be underestimated.

  57. 57.

    raven

    Bustin ass to get ready, the turkey football doesn’t really look like a football but, what the hey! We have a number of folks who are out of town but some others who we don’t know coming with friends. I just hope I can get enough people to buy all 100 squares at a buck a piece!

  59. 59.

    hovercraft

    @Baud:

    So we’re now real Americans? What happened?

    They took America back of course. Duh! Now it’s all real again, except for the people being paid to look like we don’t all love and worship our glorious new leader. Really Baud, you must keep up if you want to have a chance at replacing him.

  64. 64.

    Barbara

    @Baud: I remember when Obama was visiting troops and they gave him a basketball to see if he could make a shot from beyond the three point line, and he laughed and said that he knew he could make one eventually, but he might not make it the first time — and lo and behold he did. It’s hard to imagine Trump putting himself out there, maybe embarrassing himself but seeing it as all in good fun to show solidarity with the troops. Whenever he makes a joke — like at the Al Smith dinner — it’s almost always at someone else’s expense. In that case, making fun of his wife for plagiarizing Michelle Obama’s speech. No wonder Melania has disappeared into the woodwork. Even humor is just another opportunity to humiliate.

  66. 66.

    dr. bloor

    @JGabriel: \

    It’s almost like they don’t want anyone thinking about how they’re in charge of the country’s government now, and how their leader is Donald Trump – a weak, crude, fascist, vulgar, narcissistic, bipolar, ADHD-addled, racist, crooked, lying, grifting, conning, disgusting, treasonous, Putin-loving, hate-spewing, popular-vote-losing authoritarian charlatan with age-related onset dementia.

    This is wildly irresponsible. There’s very little to support a diagnosis of Bipolar disorder.

  69. 69.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Anne Laurie: They’re both shitheads. I apologize for getting my shithead Bens confused. It could happen to anyone…there are so fucking many of them, and they all need to go DIAF.

  73. 73.

    Hal

    @Bruuuuce: Me too. I have a conservative evangelical friend who’s spent years posting on facebook using phrases like “the constitution” and rule of law. He’s now complaining about the judicial branch interfering with POTUS enforcing immigration law. Checks and balances? Never heard of her!

  75. 75.

    Patricia Kayden

    @hovercraft: Fox can interview Trump a million times. Not watching anything he does live so it doesn’t matter to me. Trump and his spokespersons are liars — and not even effective liars. Bowling Green Massacre, anyone?

  79. 79.

    Michael Bersin

    I ain’t watching, even for the damn commercials.

    I’ll be transcribing (maybe not so much) additional material from Rep. Emanuel Cleaver’s (D) Immigration Town Hall yesterday in Kansas City.

    “…Well, what I, what I hope Americans understand is he did this all through the campaign. He mocked a judge of, uh, of Mexican descent and, and, and said that the judge couldn’t be fair. Uh, you know, but he won the presidency anyway. So, uh, there are some, some deep seated issues in the, with the American public that, that also must be, uh, eventually addressed. Uh, whatever the president’s doing right now, he did in the, during the campaign. He’s done nothing new. Mocking judges, mocking the disabled, he will continue to do that because there are no negative consequences…”

    “…failure, uh, is not just not getting your way. Failure is identifying wrong and doing nothing about it and saying nothing about it. And so one of the things we’ve got to do is to speak out and speak up. Uh, arm the American public with as much in the way of facts as we can, uh, and awareness. And this has to be a teaching moment for the people of the United States.”

    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D) – Immigration Town Hall in Kansas City – press Q and A – February 4, 2017

  81. 81.

    Cacti

    As the Super Bowl gets ready to kick off it’s fun to remember.

    Donald Trump bankrupted a professional football league and hates the NFL for it.

  82. 82.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Mike J: Will Dick Cheney (aka Evil Incarnate) come out with Lady Gaga and breathe over the audience? There’s your Satanic ritual, for you. Now that I would watch.

  84. 84.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Baud: LOL!! I wonder why Conway didn’t go whole hog and claim that Hillary’s email server and Foundation were somehow involved in the cover up of the Bowling Green Massacre. If you’re gonna lie, go crazy with it.

  86. 86.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    Dylan Byers ‏@DylanByers

    Lady Gaga’s Super Bowl show to feature hundreds of drones

    3 replies 9 retweets 16 likes

    DROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONZZZZZZZZZZZZE!!!!

  88. 88.

    zhena gogolia

    So do I turn on the TV at 6:15 to try to catch the Schuyler Sisters singing the anthem? Or do I just wait for YouTube?

  91. 91.

    The Pale Scot

    The most recent season of the critically acclaimed animated series “BoJack Horseman” featured a subplot affirming abortion,

    It’s called a plot, moron.

    * More and more I am becoming enamored with Mike the Mad Biologist’s motto,

    Helping idiots who desperately need my assistance by calling them fucking morons

    Great blog by the way

    Sidebar: Currently working at a military contractor. I overheard an interesting conversation among the sr engineers about how they’re need to change things to protect their processes from the threat of Russian espionage. You hear worries about general threats all the time, once in a while about China. This was a conversation with specifics.

  96. 96.

    Mike G

    @Barbara:

    Not to mention the bit where he says the U.S. is no better than Russia.

    I’m sure all the Teatards who screamed at Obama for not being bombastic enough in his adoration of American Exceptionalism will be shouting their outrage.

    *Crickets*

  98. 98.

    zhena gogolia

    Okay, I’m confused. I thought the Schuyler Sisters were going to sing the national anthem, but it says Luke Bryan. When do the Schuyler Sisters sing?

  99. 99.

    Bruuuuce

    @zhena gogolia: The Schuyler Sisters are doing “God Bless America” (or “America the Beautiful”, I forget which). Probably before the anthem, but I don’t have the schedule at hand (and am far too lazy even to google for it)

  102. 102.

    zhena gogolia

    @Bruuuuce:

    “America the Beautiful,” I guess, not Irving Berlin’s worst song, thank God. So I wonder how long I have to listen to this bombastic crap before they come on.

  104. 104.

    JPL

    Mediate has ten minutes of the interview and the rest will air on the O’Reilly factor. I’ll transcribe, TPP bad, the Iran deal bad, Obamacare bad and tax cuts this year. Also Russia kills but we do too. (you knew that though didn’t you)

  107. 107.

    The Dangerman

    I’m calling it Falcons and not that close; call it 9. Brady’s balls end up deflated.

  109. 109.

    zhena gogolia

    @Bruuuuce:

    I thought they were supposed to sing during the pre-game show, but they just said it would be Luke Bryan when they come back. So I wonder if they got canceled. Surely the game starts right after the anthem.

  111. 111.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Betty Cracker:

    Republicans voted for a racist, sexist, xenophobic demagogue. This isn’t an “agree to disagree” thing.

    QFT. This a million times. Whenever I see cars with “Trump 2016” stickers, I know that their owners are people I do not want to know or associate with, unless absolutely necessary. As a Black woman of foreign extraction, I’m not comfortable with people who voted for a bigot and dangerously unqualified, ignorant narcissist. It has only been two weeks since he was inaugurated and this country has already been thrown into turmoil through his (executive) actions. The worst is yet to come.

  123. 123.

    danielx

    Odds at the local watering hole say five to two that Lady Gaga does something to provoke shrieking tweets before halftime is over.

  124. 124.

    Yarrow

    George H.W. Bush is looking pretty good for a guy who was in ICU and on a ventilator a few weeks ago.

    And fuck you Mike Pence.

  125. 125.

    Larkspur

    Well. This Superb Owl is working out very nicely for Barbara Bush. Seriously, I’m glad they’re not dead.

  127. 127.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Did they just say, there’s not a tougher man in this stadium tonight, than his wife Barbara?

    (I know he didn’t, but that’s what Nixon said, the only real man in the family, because she knows how to hate)

  131. 131.

    ThresherK

    @zhena gogolia: Hate to be the pedant, but it can’t be Irving Berlin’s not-worst song, cos he wrote “God Bless America”.

    Kathy Lee Bates wrote “America the Beautiful”, and in Falmouth MA the museum is all about whaling and her.

  132. 132.

    Elizabelle

    @Larkspur: Me too. I’d be good if the senior Bushes had the occasional health scare and survived this entire shitstorm of an administration. Whoever is the figurehead POTUS.

  135. 135.

    zhena gogolia

    @ThresherK:

    Again I’m not making sense. Should have been, “They’re singing ‘America the Beautiful’ rather than the worst song Irving Berlin ever wrote.” And Berlin wrote a lot of fabulous songs, don’t get me wrong.

  136. 136.

    HeleninEire

    I do not care even for a second. But it’s on BBC1 here. So it started at 6 Eastern time? Thought they waited till 9pm.

  138. 138.

    scav

    @danielx: Isn’t provoking outrage the new “refreshing”?
    O! silly me, it’s like bipartisan, Offer only applies to oreange and white Americans of suitably vetted opinions.

  139. 139.

    NeenerNeener

    @Villago Delenda Est: Is this Ben the infamous “Box Turtle Ben”, so named for his objection to gay marriage during the Bush the Lesser Reign of Error? I have a hard time keeping my conserva-Bens straight too.

    Oooo, I see my question was already answered. I do know my conserva-Bens after all.

  142. 142.

    hovercraft

    @Hal:
    Stop being so literal, the checks and balances are only there to stop democrats from doing things, not the republicans. See what Nixon meant to say was that when Republican Presidents do it’s legal, when democrats do it, it’s an overreach.

  143. 143.

    Yarrow

    @JPL: It was the best one but kind of weird.

    Oh, jeez. An American Petroleum Institute commercial?

    Okay, the Go Daddy one was kind of funny.

  145. 145.

    ThresherK

    @zhena gogolia: Okay, now I get it. (I wasn’t watching, so I’m relying on others to be eyewitnesses.)

    I dunno, I have room for both “God Bless America” and “This Land is Your Land”. Berlin’s family fled Russia ahead one of those near-continual Czarist pogroms and he made himself a good life here out of nothing. No wonder he loved this country. His song has been hijacked by people who don’t so much.

    And I hold “This Is A Great Country” from 1962’s Mr. President as a much worse song than “God Bless America”: Clunky, reactionary and retrograde, and a line about “Patriotism has gone out of fashion”. Ugh.

  147. 147.

    JPL

    Really surprising that neither team has scored so far, considering they both have explosive offenses.

  150. 150.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    I’m enjoying guesstimating the blood pressure spikes for the wingnuts thanks to the commercials. Coke and Google were delightful from that angle.

  151. 151.

    Yarrow

    I guess the #WeAccept commercial was AirBnB? I had to look it up because I didn’t recognize the logo. It’s really in the face of the Trumpers.

  158. 158.

    Suzanne

    O/T: I just learned that Nazi furries are a thing and I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

  159. 159.

    Anne Laurie

    @Bruuuuce:

    The Schuyler Sisters are doing “God Bless America” (or “America the Beautiful”, I forget which).

    America the Beautiful, including the verses that usually get cut out…

    O beautiful for heroes proved
    In liberating strife.
    Who more than self their country loved
    And mercy more than life!
    America! America!
    May God thy gold refine
    Till all success be nobleness
    And every gain divine!

    Wait for the Trump tweet complaining about ‘political correctness’…

  160. 160.

    HeleninEire

    The only thing I like about the Super Bowl is Bruno Mars. Super bowl 48 halftime show. Go watch.

  161. 161.

    ThresherK

    Atlanta running hurry-up?

    Guess the Pats have to start clutching non-existant pulled hammies.

  164. 164.

    ThresherK

    @Anne Laurie: Daaaang. I was gonna post that exact verse but thought it would be too OT.

    The one about “mend thy every flaw” and “confirm thy liberty in law” never goes out of style either.

  169. 169.

    Anne Laurie

    @Yarrow:

    It’s always a late afternoon/early evening thing. Not sure why but it is.

    IIRC, supposed to get the post-game drunks home at a reasonable hour, before they can endanger the late-night professional drinkers out on the highways.

    Did you know there’s an actual marketeer-based campaign to get the Monday after the Super Bowl declared a national day off, so people can recover on their own time?

  173. 173.

    Yarrow

    @Anne Laurie: Yeah, I heard about that. So dumb. They can’t make election day a national holiday but want the Monday after the Superbowl to be one? Nope.

  179. 179.

    Elizabelle

    @Yarrow: Couldnt hear it, but. Christopher Walken. And Justin Timberlake?

    The T-mobile ad was lame. How did that get approved?

    The movies and ads look kinda grey.

  181. 181.

    Yarrow

    @JPL: It’s a good game. Sometimes they’re so boring. This one has not been. And the team I want to win is ahead so far.

  182. 182.

    Larkspur

    @Villago Delenda Est: Ben Casey was okay. He was a good counterpoint to Dr. Kildare. My mom bought a Ben Casey blouse (like a doctor shirt); it was a fad. We may need a Ben roster to refer to.
    Nice turnover. I can’t help watching because the TV at my housesitting job is just so good. The brights are brighter, the blacks are blacker, and everything smells February fresh. The golden retriever is happy and damn I am so fortunate.

  183. 183.

    Anne Laurie

    @Suzanne:

    I just learned that Nazi furries are a thing and I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

    People who have trouble dealing with “normal” social interactions are gonna find all sorts of ways to compensate.

    Never been a furry, but the sf fandom that was a major part of my young-adult life was always at least authoritarian-curious — even though we didn’t have the word cosplay in the 1980s, there were more convention-goers in Nazi-adjacent outfits (Starship Troopers / Dorsai / StarWars ) than I cared to see. Inverted inferiority complexes, usually, among (mostly) men who felt they weren’t ‘measuring up’ to the silly trivial standards of the mundanes.

  184. 184.

    opiejeanne

    @Mike J: Ha! I don’t know what that other language is, and can’t remember a thing about Basic, too many years ago with no practice.

    It’s been snowing here since 1pm but it’s not sticking yet. Is it snowing where you are?

  185. 185.

    Yarrow

    @Elizabelle:

    Couldnt hear it, but. Christopher Walken. And Justin Timberlake?

    Yep. It was for some kind of beverage called Bai Bai. Walken spoke the lyrics to NSync’s “Bye, Bye, Bye!” Homonyms ftw. I liked it.

  186. 186.

    Suzanne

    @Anne Laurie: Far be it for me to kink-shame, but furries gross me TF out. To say nothing of Nazis. So the idea of combining the two…..horrifying.

  190. 190.

    Yarrow

    @Steeplejack (tablet): Ha! That made me laugh. I thought the same thing. She looked too tiny to be a supermodel. And they had to say her name because she’s not instantly recognizable, so how is she a supermodel?

  193. 193.

    J R in WV

    @JGabriel:

    JG:

    Such a good list of The Don’s better attributes! Thanks!

    And the Hawks have a 21-0 lead in the 2nd quarter – amazing ball !!

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