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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Open Thread: Sportsball After the Event

Open Thread: Sportsball After the Event

by Anne Laurie|  February 6, 20176:55 pm| 139 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Sports, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All

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Look, if I’m the one who jinxed last night’s game, I’m sorry. Believe me — it’s no fun being a non-fan in a championship-addled city, even in cities where the average sports fan doesn’t represent every worst Masshole characteristic…

Congrats to the Atlanta Falcons for not having to take a photo with the president.

— James Fritz (@fritzisdead) February 6, 2017

Putin gets a ring this time, too, right?

— David Simon (@AoDespair) February 6, 2017

Trump leaves party. Pence leaves game. Patriots come back Res ipse loquitur.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) February 6, 2017

The ads aren't really trolling Trump. They're just about sane, good American things, so it seems that way.

— Nicholas Thompson (@nxthompson) February 6, 2017

Business must have noticed the cause behind a few million people showing up on the street in a concentrated fashion. https://t.co/30hzshf9im

— Aarne Granlund (@granlund_aarne) February 5, 2017

The biggest political statement of the Super Bowl ads is that it's now "political" for a brand to say "We support being minimally decent"

— James Poniewozik (@poniewozik) February 6, 2017

Weird that not one brand has tried to pander to Trump voter in commercials. Seems like a no brainer

— Tim Miller (@Timodc) February 6, 2017

The advertising-client class may not be the most in touch with tribal America. https://t.co/C5FrpCHYu1

— Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) February 6, 2017

"Tribal America" is a very ironic way to say "white people." https://t.co/GI43p1eFON

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) February 6, 2017

And while we’re discussing #OurFailedMedia, the Boston Globe may have inadvertently killed a few of their elderly snowbird subscribers today…

Family friends in Naples, FL had this delivered to their house this morning. The perils of early edition newspapers. pic.twitter.com/iSbchhrqSx

— Field Yates (@FieldYates) February 6, 2017

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    February 6, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Dewey Defeats Truman in 2017? That’s something.

  2. 2.

    Brachiator

    February 6, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    Look, if I’m the one who jinxed last night’s game, I’m sorry.

    Not your fault. Tom Brady found a magic lantern years ago.

    Brady: “For my first wish, I’d like to win 5 Super Bowl Championships.”

    Genie: Done.

    Brady: For my second wish, I’d like to marry a Brazilian supermodel.

    Genie: A little tougher, but… Done!

    That third wish must have been a humdinger.

  3. 3.

    debbie

    February 6, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    That Brady wasn’t reduced to tears is a major disappointment.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    February 6, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @Brachiator: The third wish was Trump.

  5. 5.

    debbie

    February 6, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @Brachiator:

    That third wish must have been a humdinger.

    Magic pajamas?

  6. 6.

    TriassicSands

    February 6, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    Now Trump is claiming the media are not reporting terrorist attacks. I guess Bowling Green really was a massacre. Hundreds, maybe thousands, perhaps millions died.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    February 6, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    This gave me stomach cramps from laughing so hard.

    Confession: I Went On 2.5 Dates With A Hotep And Lived To Tell The Tale
    Jordan Kauwling, 2/2/2017

    excerpt:

    Three weeks went by and I hadn’t heard from him. No calls. No texts.
    Not even a “wyd?” message on gchat. (For the youths out there, “gchat” is where women of the aughts went to get unsolicited and poorly-lit dick pics before Snapchat was invented.) I had decided it was best to move on when out of the blue he called me.

    “Good Morning my beautiful Nubian Queen. How is life?” he exclaimed.

    “Hey {through bites of Popeye’s biscuit} “Me? Life is great! How are things on your end my…um…Onyx…uh…Sith Lord,” I retorted.

    We did the small talk thing for a few minutes and then decided to go
    on date number three later that week. This time a real King James
    version-arsed date complete with dinner, drinks and dancing afterwards
    at Philly’s now-defunct Club Fluid. I showed up wearing an outfit that I thought screamed, “I’m auditioning to be an extra in the Beyonce’s
    “Diva” video but I do read books on occasion.” He came wearing a black ninja shirt and and culottes that looked to be made out of hemp and no “ninja” is not a euphemism for the n-word. This nigga was really dressed like we were going to fight Cobra-Kai in a poppy field somewhere. I was so confused. Here I was under the impression we were on a date and this dude was gearing up to fight Sub-Zero.

  8. 8.

    Elizabelle

    February 6, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    That’s a collector’s newspaper.

  9. 9.

    efgoldman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    Now Trump is claiming the media are not reporting terrorist attacks.

    CBS tonite spent most of the first half of the newscast showing different ways Tangerine Tempertantrum and his merry band lie. And they weren’t subtle about it. No “some say.”

    ETA: We’re getting pretty close to 1974 Dan Rather to Tricksie Dicksie Nixie “Mr. president, are you a crook”? territory.

  10. 10.

    Spanky

    February 6, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    The biggest political statement of the Super Bowl ads is that it’s now “political” for a brand to say “We support being minimally decent”

    Yeah, that’s because Both Sides don’t do it.

  11. 11.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Open thread?

    I wrote a bloglet about tattoos in fiction. I dunno, somebody might enjoy reading it.

  12. 12.

    efgoldman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Spanky:

    Yeah, that’s because Both Sides don’t do it.

    Thing is, these ads aren’t really a reaction to Citron Shitweasel. Most of the work on them was done before the election. The lead times are too great.

  13. 13.

    Brachiator

    February 6, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I wrote a bloglet about tattoos in fiction. I dunno, somebody might enjoy reading it.

    First thing I thought of was the character in Alfred Bester’s “The Stars My Destination.”

    Did you see “Moana?”

  14. 14.

    JMG

    February 6, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    So needless to say the return of the Pats’ plane was covered live on all Boston TV stations. It struck me. Who else but the teams going to and from the Super Bowl and the President have to use those portable stairs no other American has used for a flight since 1980 at the latest.

  15. 15.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 6, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    @Spanky: I’ll bet if you look at ads from previous years, there’ll be several narrating the immigrant American story and everyone thought it was mainstream.

  16. 16.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @Brachiator: I did! What fun! And great hand-drawn animation on Maui’s, too.

  17. 17.

    lollipopguild

    February 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    I had the impression that 84 Lumber was owned by right wing conservatives. OH MY!

  18. 18.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @TriassicSands:Millions of Potential lives. In his fist. Because there were no eggs to be fertilized as they spilled onto the damp earth.

  19. 19.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I know this is a sign I’m old, but I can’t imagine getting a tattoo. Anyone else wants to, good on them. Not me.

  20. 20.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    @Baud: He wished for a great prick and a white house. The Genie was a little deaf.

  21. 21.

    Ian G.

    February 6, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    The end of the Superbowl is basically when I set my countdown clock for my favorite day of the year: opening day of the baseball season.

    And I need it too, because the Islanders are making me insane with this dicktease about whether they’re playoff contenders or not. Win 3 straight against Montreal, Columbus, and Washington, drop 2 to Detroit and Carolina. Ahhhh!

  22. 22.

    TriassicSands

    February 6, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @efgoldman:

    This really is a test of the media. They’ve skated along doing a half-assed job for too long. Now, they’re faced with something they’ve never seen before (none of us have) — a president who lies to a degree and with a frequency that is truly mindboggling. It’s so bad they can’t let it pass.

    His two other most visible assistant liars — 1) Conway and 2) Spicer — are 1) just as bad and 2) nearly as bad. Conway got a lot of exposure early on in her career on Bill Maher’s Politically Incorrect. They’re friendly, if not friends (I think.). I’d like to see her go on his show now and let him grill her about the delusional world of make believe she lives in.

  23. 23.

    Lapassionara

    February 6, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    Sorry, JMG, but if you live in one of the lesser cities, you are more likely than not to have these kinds of exit devices. Even in a big airport, like LGA. So, not so unusual.

  24. 24.

    XTPD

    February 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    Drew Magary’s anti-Pats post is fucking hilarious. I’m already looking forward to his 2017 Why Your Team Sucks series.

  25. 25.

    Betty Cracker

    February 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    A choke for the ages. Ah well. No more football for many a month. But spring training will begin before we know it!

  26. 26.

    Tokyokie

    February 6, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Years ago, when I was working as the sports news desk chief at a newspaper in the South, we had a prediction of heavy snowfall on the evening of the Super Bowl, and my managing editor asked if we could put the section (and therefore the rest of the paper) to bed early. And I asked, “And be the only morning newspaper in the country without the final score of the Super Bowl?” He grumbled and asked me to get it done as quickly as possible. I edited the running the AP was sending across, then tacked on the lede once the score was final, and used an early photo to fill half of an inside jump page, and I think we got the section out within a half-hour of the final gun, maybe even quicker.

    The managing editor the next day bitched about my running the photo so damn large.

  27. 27.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: I have an interrobang on my upper arm, I like it. (Good thing, too, lol.)

  28. 28.

    Rand Careaga

    February 6, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    those portable stairs no other American has used for a flight since 1980 at the latest.

    @Lapassionara: Yup. Used one in Long Beach in 1985 and in Memphis in 1994.

  29. 29.

    Ian G.

    February 6, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Also, brands NOT pandering to Trump voters seems like a no-brainer to me. They want the young affluent set in New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc. Not 70 year olds shaking their cane at the darks celebrating too much on the football field in places like Lubbock.

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Thing is, these ads aren’t really a reaction to Citron Shitweasel.

    They’re a response to the zeitgeist, just as Trump is. There are two things that are noteworthy:

    1) They’re willing to make a big deal about where they stand on the issue
    2) They’re all coming down on the same side

    It’s more or less the same way that big advertising recently decided it was acceptable and important to include people who showed the full diversity of the country in their materials: minorities, mixed race families, LGBTQ people, people with disabilities, etc.

  31. 31.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    And the Orcs continue to spill out of Morder

    I think someone called me paranoid delusional earlier. Keep in mind, this is only week 3.

  32. 32.

    Feathers

    February 6, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @JMG: They used them at National Airport for the old terminals at least through the late nineties. I don’t know when they redid the old Eastern terminal, but I remember walking across the tarmac at both Logan and National in ’98 or ’99. I miss it.

    And I must say, as a Bostonian, I was amazed on the T (at least the Red Line from Alewife to Kendall) at the complete lack of any sign that the local team had one the Superbowl. Morning and evening commute.

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    February 6, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    @XTPD: God, that magnificent bastard!

  34. 34.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 6, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @TriassicSands: The media needs to hound him into giving us the details about the massacres they are allegedly not covering. He keeps establishing that he’s a Liar-in-Chief, along with his sycophants.

  35. 35.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @TriassicSands: Apparently its their new talking point. Conway used the Bowling Green BS in an interview with Cosmo that was done before her Chris Matthews interview. Its also part of the propaganda op that Gorka is running on behalf of his boss Bannon about how Federal judges don’t get Presidential Daily Briefs so don’t know what the real threat level is. This will be looped around into “terrorism is being un/under reported, Americans don’t know how much danger they’re in.” I expect Breitbart to add a “Today’s Unreported Terrorism” feature alongside their “Crimes Committed by Blacks” feature. All of this stuff is reported, but terrorism, even where its more frequent, is a small to very small “n” phenomena.

  36. 36.

    Tokyokie

    February 6, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: I don’t put bumper stickers on my car because a statement I might support at the point of affixing the sticker might not be one with which I agree years later. (Or something I thought was clever initially might not seem so later on.) If I’m unwilling to mess up my stupid car, I’m not likely to wear a trendy fashion statement for the rest of my life.

  37. 37.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @rikyrah: I’m guesstimating that Hotep is short for the Egyptian Amon Hotep? Also, and I say this as someone who has been doing martial arts since I was 13, and has been teaching them since I was in my early 20s, that that sartorial choice is taking the Hong Kong/Shaw Brothers cinema inspiration behind the Wu Tang Clan just a wee bit too far.

    As for the male culottes, this appears to be a thing among some sartorially challenged martial artists in the greater Philadelphia area. I have a friend who has a dojo in the burbs and he has a couple different types of those and he wears them in public.

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    February 6, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I saw that “terrorism is under reported” thing and nearly ejected several ounces of coffee through my nostrils. On what fucking planet do networks not do wall-to-wall coverage of terrorist incidents, unless it occurs someplace where there are few white people, and we know damn well Trump’s not referring to that!

  39. 39.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Did you include this guy?
    http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Abel_Tarrant_(New_Earth)
    http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Abel_Tarrant_(New_Earth)/Gallery?file=Green_Lantern_v.2_23.jpg

  40. 40.

    jeffreyw

    February 6, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    Matthew Chapman @fawfulfan
    So…according to InfoWars, all real terrorist attacks are fake, but there are millions of real ones we’ve never heard of? @washingtonpost

  41. 41.

    jl

    February 6, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Dozens of Bowling Green Massacres here and abroad, and all covered up. I see news reports that The Trump Himself and his flunkies are running that BS up the flagpole this very moment.

    So, another way to take on the media? I predict push back from media (if it bleeds it leads, and such on and so forth) and it will not go well.
    I remember the fake no-go zones reported on Fox.

    Alex Jones secretly brought on board for political tactics and strategy?

  42. 42.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 6, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    @JMG: You obviously don’t live in small airport America.

    ETA: But my guess is private planes don’t get jetways.

  43. 43.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: No, but my blog sure does have a comment button :P

    It’s not an exhaustive post or an essay, though it’s inspired me to start one.

    ETA: I always liked Raven from Snow Crash who had POOR IMPULSE CONTROL tattooed on his face as punishment.

  44. 44.

    TriassicSands

    February 6, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    What is so amazing is that even when they have their lies shoved back in their faces they don’t miss a beat. Conway claims she misstated one word when it turns out she had (as you note) used the “massacre” story before. The next day or the day after, Trump is up spewing garbage about “the very dishonest press” not covering terrorist attacks. Unbelievable (only now it’s totally believable).

    Once again the very dishonest press failed to cover a terrorist attack that never took place. Shame. Shame on them.

  45. 45.

    Mnemosyne

    February 6, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @TenguPhule:

    Missouri is the state where Republicans reversed a voter initiative that would have outlawed puppy mills so, ironically, that’s actually less evil than usual.

    And people are calling you a delusional paranoid for your insistence that Trump’s shock troops are coming out by the hundreds to literally beat and kill us, not that Republicans are trying to carry out their legislative wish list.

  46. 46.

    JPL

    February 6, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Quebec massacre in the mosque has been under reported. Maybe that’s what Trump meant.

    It was under reported by him…

  47. 47.

    JMG

    February 6, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    @Feathers: Let’s face it, Patriots fans are spoiled. They’d hardly be human if they weren’t.

  48. 48.

    efgoldman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    @JMG:

    the return of the Pats’ plane was covered live on all Boston TV stations.

    Providence also too. TWO reporters in Foxboro, two at the airport, two still in Houston. Literally first eight minutes of the newscast at six.
    That’s a huge commitment of resources for a small market network affiliate. Not that there was any other news in RI today.

    Who else but the teams going to and from the Super Bowl and the President have to use those portable stairs

    Some small, regional flights into and out of Reagan National do, because there aren’t enough gates. A couple of the American Eagle flights to/from Providence, for example. Although now they use a movable ramp instead of stairs.

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    February 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    As soon as I heard that a tattoo required having a needle stuck into my skin several hundred times at a minimum, I was out.

  50. 50.

    japa21

    February 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Here’s the thing, though. @Betty Cracker: do agree with you, but one of two things are happening here.

    1. Trump is telling another lie.
    2. Trump is telling the truth.

    Obviously, the greater likelihood is number 1. But for argument’s sake, let’s work from the assumption that number 2 is correct. Since these attacks are not being reported, how would he know that they are occurring? The only way would be through his classified briefings. And that would mean that by exposing the existence of these attacks, he is leaking classified information and breaking the law.

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Exactly. Part of the problem is that even the public facing, DHS funded database that the State Department relies on for its annual reports has problems. The first is it is built on the worst terrorism data chronology in existence: The Pinkerton’s. That thing had major issues. The second is the guy running the thing, despite what he’s done in selling himself doesn’t know anything about terrorism, nor is he a social-behaviorist. I’m the senior, social-behavioral specialist in terrorism in criminology and have been since I was 25. Why? Because I was the only social-behaviorist at the time in criminology studying terrorism. The guy running this database actually made his career studying comparative intimate partner homicide. In short: he’s a specialist in cuckold induced violence. Also, he plagiarized part of my doctoral dissertation. But he’s now in charge of running this thing, which relies on grad students identifying acts of terrorism based on news reports and then coding them into the database. The problem here, of course, is always the human component. I haven’t looked to see what the official schema is lately, but its only as good as the human’s interpreting and applying it. One of his subordinate, satellite centers is run by a woman with a PhD from a mail drop in the Cayman Islands. I could go on and on and on… And yes, this is part of the reason I left academia and went into applied/operational work with the Army.

  52. 52.

    jeffreyw

    February 6, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    I remember flying in a DC-3 in the ’50s, the boarding stairs were something like they use to stock shelves in a big box store. Later, over So. Illinois, I was worried that there seemed to be a lot of oil streaming from the engine but the flight attendant assured me that was the normal amount.

  53. 53.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I actually responded. I think a regular expression tattoo would be a foolhardy choice. If programmers have a hard time reading and remembering regular expressions, think about how much trouble a tattoo artist would have with them. And one misplaced character would completely change the meaning.

  54. 54.

    Mnemosyne

    February 6, 2017 at 7:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    You may need to consult the Urban Dictionary. Just sayin’.

  55. 55.

    JordanRules

    February 6, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    Hmmm, I guess Putin will not have to ring jack Kraft this time as I’m sure Dolt 45 will just gift him with a Superbowl ring for this special year.

  56. 56.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @jl: They need people to be afraid. They need people to be discouraged. They need people to be terrorized, hence the “this judge/the Federal courts is making us unsafe and you know who to go after when we get hit” garbage they’re pushing. This is why I keep doing posts telling people not to panic and despair. That’s what they want. Its what they need.

  57. 57.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @JMG:

    Who else but the teams going to and from the Super Bowl and the President have to use those portable stairs no other American has used for a flight since 1980 at the latest.

    They still used those stairs at Burbank/Bob Hope airport.

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: This is the only place I comment. Unless I’ve done a guest post for someone, then I’ll comment if folks have questions, concerns, complaints. Kind of like here. My motto is Bloggus Fidelus!

  59. 59.

    lollipopguild

    February 6, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    @jeffreyw: Do not worry sir that engine catches on fire all the time!

  60. 60.

    japa21

    February 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    Speaking of under reported terrorists attacks, that is actually true, just not in the way Trump means. There are many terrorist attacks, such as the Quebec mosque shooting and the burning of mosques in US, or Dylan Roof, that are under reported in the sense that they are not called terrorist attacks. Maybe a fund should be created to reward the first mainstream media journalist that uses the term “radical Christianist terrorism”.

  61. 61.

    TriassicSands

    February 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @japa21:

    Since these attacks are not being reported, how would he know that they are occurring? The only way would be through his classified briefings. And that would mean that by exposing the existence of these attacks, he is leaking classified information and breaking the law.

    You have heard of social media, haven’t you? Nothing much is secret anymore. Anyplace a terrorist attack happened where there was a single cell phone would be widely known in no time.

  62. 62.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Apparently. And I just did. That’s why I wrote “guesstimating”.

  63. 63.

    Steeplejack (sky-high wi-fi)

    February 6, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @XTPD:

    A righteous rant.

  64. 64.

    FlyingToaster

    February 6, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    From the tweets:

    Weird that not one brand has tried to pander to Trump voter in commercials. Seems like a no brainer

    I remember Olbermann spelling this out on his old show, vis-a-vis advertising on the evening cable opinion shows.

    FoxNews has the most viewers, but they skew to old people. The average viewer age of Bill O’Reilly’s show was 70-something. The average age of CNN & MSNBC was 50-something. The average age of Daily Show viewers (3 hours later) was 40-somethng.

    Worse, the average incomes. The average income of the FoxNews viewer was 15K/annum. The average for CNN/MSNBC was 40K/annum. The average for the Daily Show was 35K/annum.

    So FoxNoise has a lot of poor viewers who are more interested in waterproof undergarments and cheap pharmaceuticals than snazzy cars, beach vacations, or booze. So FoxNews gets about the same $/ad, but the targeting isn’t great, because the “demo” isn’t watching them. Mind you, it isn’t watching the other two, either.

    So the people watching the SuperBowl who are likely to buy shit are not the racist, misogynist, misanthropic “white middle america”. Those assholes buy cheap house-brand shit from S-Mart and will never, ever, ever buy a new big-ass truck that isn’t repo’d in six months.

  65. 65.

    randy khan

    February 6, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @JMG: @efgoldman:

    (a) Also private jets.

    (b) That’s National or DCA. We do not give voice to the other name.

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @jl: Also, I highly recommend reading this:
    https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/normalization-lesson-munich-post/

  67. 67.

    Emma

    February 6, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @efgoldman: Major ads can take up to a year to plan and film. So yeah… nothing to do with the strange man in the White House.

  68. 68.

    randy khan

    February 6, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    I saw something purported to be the explanation from the family that owns the company, and apparently the door was supposed to represent the “big beautiful door” that Trump talked about, and it wasn’t supposed to be about undocumented immigrants at all. I must say that most of the rest of the ad did not give that impression.

  69. 69.

    JordanRules

    February 6, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    @Emma: He has been beating the same drum since 2015 though

  70. 70.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    February 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @Feathers: Thank you for using the correct name of National Airport and not that other name that begins with R

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    February 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @JordanRules:
    Putin already has Brady’s game jersey.

  72. 72.

    John Revolta

    February 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @rikyrah: I had heard about this hotep thing although I didn’t know about some of the more, um, intergalactic parts.I guess my two questions are

    1) Do these guys really believe this stuff or is it just, you know, a riff?

    b) Does it ever actually work?

  73. 73.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Roger Moore: ah thanks! Yeah, I wasn’t thinking of actually getting one. If you ran it past a few CS and Computational Linguistics PhD’s and got the same answer I imagine you’d be fine though.

    ETA:
    Somebody posted one on hacker news the other day that matches prime numbers in binary that I thought was cool.

  74. 74.

    Princess

    February 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    The 84 Lumber ad was apparently intended to be a pro-Trump, pro-wall anti-illegal immigration ad.

  75. 75.

    Baud

    February 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Emma: I wonder if next year’s ads will be all about hate and death.

  76. 76.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Actually, I’ve pointed out that they don’t need the shock troops…yet. But they’re going to keep pushing until they will be needed. I honestly didn’t expect it would accelerate so fast though. Its not even a month into the regime and already the “enemies” are being branded as those disloyal to the Emperor. The dog whistles about “making us less safe” with the rather obvious corollary that those who do so need to be “stopped”.

    And one by one, the legal recourses are being quietly strangled into uselessness.

    It stops being paranoia when they’re doing it in full view of the public.

  77. 77.

    FlyingToaster

    February 6, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: HerrDoktorToaster always gets a laugh when he asks a cabbie to take him to “Butcher of Guatemala National Airport”.

  78. 78.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 6, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @japa21: Prezactly. The thing is, the vermin of the Village will not call an act committed by a white, nominally Christian, male, a “terrorist attack”. Only those with melanin surpluses and who pray on a rug pointed at Mecca can be terrorists.

  79. 79.

    lollipopguild

    February 6, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @randy khan: People were saying that the Budweiser ad was not about trump but it was very hard not to see it as a “response” to trump.

  80. 80.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @japa21:

    Since these attacks are not being reported, how would he know that they are occurring?

    They’re not being reported by the regular media. He learns all about them from InfoWars.

  81. 81.

    Emma

    February 6, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    @JordanRules: You know the tongue-in-cheek definition of insane, right?

  82. 82.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    @Betty Cracker: It builds the new mythos among the Trumpshirts that they can only trust the Emperor, all the others are lying to them. Its hitting Kim Jong Il levels.

  83. 83.

    randy khan

    February 6, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Raven’s tattoo was a nice touch.

  84. 84.

    JordanRules

    February 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Emma: I’ve heard it over and over again. :)

  85. 85.

    jl

    February 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I guess the sliver lining is that they are trying to execute this strategy in such a clownish way that, absent a very serious attack (which will provoke blanket coverage on the news, BTW) the first impulse of people not caught inside the Trump/Fox/B-bart bubble will be to laugh.

    Plus, the gaping huge and absurd (and corrupt) holes in the Trump Moose-Lamb ban work to wreck his stunt as helping keep us safe.
    It’s like they think everyone processes information that same way the Fox and Alex Jones audiences do. I think even most low info voters who are not Trumpists will laugh.

    PS: thanks for link to article in your follow-up comment. I will read it.

    Edit: though Trumpists spreading falsehoods out of ignorance or malice will be a problem. I saw a tweet with pics of Muslims involved in recent US terror attacks (didn’t mention none of them were from countries on the ban, all from countries that are omitted, for ‘reasons’)

  86. 86.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @randy khan: he was a badass.

  87. 87.

    Emma

    February 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Baud: I doubt it. Advertisers can see what’s in front of their noses.

  88. 88.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I’m not so much worried about the quality of the regular expression you’d ask the guy to tattoo you with. I’m worried about the errors he’d introduce because he has no clue about regular expressions, so he won’t recognize that \.+ has a completely different meaning from \+.

  89. 89.

    randy khan

    February 6, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I’ve always had a soft spot for Uncle Enzo, though.

  90. 90.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    @Roger Moore: well, that’s why you don’t just go to any old chop shop.

  91. 91.

    opiejeanne

    February 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @JMG: Anyone flying in or out of Long Beach CA uses those stairs.

  92. 92.

    Gravenstone

    February 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @efgoldman: Perhaps not a direct reaction to him. But possibly a reaction to the overall environment that allowed him to become a credible candidate.

  93. 93.

    Steeplejack (sky-high wi-fi)

    February 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @John Revolta:

    Look, 60%–my estimate, it’s probably more–of Urban Dictionary can be sourced to sugar-crazed seventh-graders on a sleepover just making shit up.

  94. 94.

    Brachiator

    February 6, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    They need people to be afraid.

    As FDR might have said, the only thing to fear is Trump himself.

  95. 95.

    Origuy

    February 6, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    @Rand Careaga: One of the terminals in San Jose, CA used them until 2010, when Terminal B was opened.

  96. 96.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 6, 2017 at 8:27 pm

    @jl: You mean like all those Saudis (15, IRRC) who were involved in 9-11?

  97. 97.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 6, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    @Gravenstone: I think you’ve nailed it, which is why the Drumpfenproles are so butthurt. It’s an attack on their bizarre reality that exists only in the empty space between their ears.

  98. 98.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    @randy khan: Raven was wrong, but he was still a badass. It’s covered fairly extensively in the text ?

  99. 99.

    geg6

    February 6, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    They also know that they need a higher profile and that there are people like me who will never shop at Home Depot because of the scuzzball owner. Savvy marketing, IMHO. It crashed their website.

  100. 100.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @jl: Yep and you’re welcome.

  101. 101.

    skerry

    February 6, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    Dan Merica @danmericacnn has tweeted a list he obtained from the white house of 78 terror attacks since 2014 that have not received enough attention. It includes the Pulse nightclub attack, attacks in Paris and Istanbul.

    (The list is an image and I can’t copy it here.)

  102. 102.

    TenguPhule

    February 6, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @skerry: So its another edition of Donald Lied again?

  103. 103.

    skerry

    February 6, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @TenguPhule: Guess it depends on your definition of “not enough attention”.

  104. 104.

    Gravenstone

    February 6, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Betty Cracker: “If it bleeds, it leads” is not a thing in BizzaroTrump world?

  105. 105.

    Anne Laurie

    February 6, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    As for the male culottes, this appears to be a thing among some sartorially challenged martial artists in the greater Philadelphia area. I have a friend who has a dojo in the burbs and he has a couple different types of those and he wears them in public.

    I’m guessing they’re like utility kilts — meant to suggest one’s genitals are waaay too large to fit comfortably in trousers.

    (Not to go knocking the utility kilt concept — I’m a skirts lady myself & have actually considered buying one, but they’re on the spendy side when the plus-sized catalogs still market jeans skirts.)

  106. 106.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @skerry: Here you go. As LGF’s Charles Johnson indicated, they misspelled San Bernardino.

    A White House official says "most" of these 78 attacks since 2014 have not received enough attention from media. pic.twitter.com/v66rcHxAFI

    — Dan Merica (@danmericaCNN) February 7, 2017

  107. 107.

    delk

    February 6, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I’ve been meaning to get my husband’s thumb print tattooed on my shoulder.

  108. 108.

    raven

    February 6, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    WTF-K?

  109. 109.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 6, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @delk: that’s kind of fun!

  110. 110.

    Roger Moore

    February 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @skerry:
    So they’re doing their typical backtrack and quibble strategy. First they changed from “unreported” to “underreported”; now they’re including heavily reported stuff and are going to argue about appropriate reporting levels. All to avoid admitting that their initial claim was utter bilge.

  111. 111.

    Eric S.

    February 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @JMG: I think it was Berlin 3 years ago when I last used the airplane stairs.

  112. 112.

    Another Scott

    February 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    The world is LAUGHING at us! No one has respect for the US anymore. This president is a JOKE! Obama should resign! https://t.co/ikgwgMEzAe— DonaId J. Trump (@realDenaldTrump) February 5, 2017

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  113. 113.

    jl

    February 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Clearly the San Bernadino attack was one of the ones that they covered up.

  114. 114.

    Ruviana

    February 6, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Don’t know if this is in the ballpark but you might find this book interesting.

  115. 115.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 6, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    I think vetting is misspelled.

    Devolution of the office of the President.
    Fear nothing but fear itself.
    To fear everything.

  116. 116.

    chris

    February 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: A couple pages in “Attacker” becomes “Attaker.” Also, in the US Attacker is “US person” with no name unlike all the foreign attacks. Curious.

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    @jl: Clearly.

  118. 118.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @chris: Its the bespoke typos like that that make a report special!

  119. 119.

    Steeplejack (sky-high wi-fi)

    February 6, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    I don’t do tattoos. I get periodic skin-cancer carvings, which have a certain primitive, “found art” cachet.

    Twenty-five minutes from IAD. I will be going dark soon. Joyful reunion with the housecat ahead! It will be good to be back in my rooms in Threadkill Lane.

  120. 120.

    Anne Laurie

    February 6, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    @John Revolta: Well, look at all the (mostly very pasty) self-styled “Pick Up Artists” (PUAs). Does their riff ever ‘work’ with actual women? Or is it 99.9% a form of posturing at other (similarly unsuccessful) men, like male chimps banging oil drums at each other?

    I’m thinking I could totally have any of these hos but they’re just not evolved enough for me is a universal self-defense, for a certain subgroup of the male gender…

  121. 121.

    dm

    February 6, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    @Princess:

    The 84 Lumber ad was apparently intended to be a pro-Trump, pro-wall anti-illegal immigration ad.

    I’m guessing that’s just camouflage. Pro-decency people will see it as someone cutting a hole in the wall and creating a door, plus the acknowledgment that “People who are determined to succeed are welcome here”), Trumpkins will swallow anything.

    @Adam L Silverman: I assume male culottes are hakama? (ignore the fact that almost all the illustrations on that page appear to be women wearing hakama).

  122. 122.

    Viva BrisVegas

    February 6, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Its what they need.

    What they need most of all is their own Reichstag fire. Preferably set by someone else though.

    I see from some of his tweets threatening the judge that Trump is fishing for one.

  123. 123.

    neldob

    February 6, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @Princess: Why do you say that? It seems more to me that it is trying to appeal to the 18-35 year old age bracket (and people who build things maybe) and also be patriotic to appeal to that segment. It is brand placement.

  124. 124.

    neldob

    February 6, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Well after reading more comments I guess I understand, but …

  125. 125.

    Anne Laurie

    February 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    I had the impression that 84 Lumber was owned by right wing conservatives.

    As some commentors pointed out last night, the big lumber-and-hardware chains all owe a good chunk of their income to swarthy guys working construction ifyouknowwhatImean. They want the work crew in need of another load of 2x4s and a replacement chainsaw to show up in their checkout line, not the one across the parking lot. As the 84 Lumber owner said when this nontroversy first popped up, that’s the people they hire for sales & support, too.

    (And they’re not too worried about the pasty weekend warrior who’ll spend 17 evenings testing out riding mowers for his quarter-acre plot, because he’ll probably end up buying a cut-rate piece of garbage from Wal-Mart anyways, assuming he’s energetic enough to do any comparison shopping.)

  126. 126.

    Eric S.

    February 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    @Betty Cracker: re: under reported terrorism

    This could be (un?)intentionally brilliant. Society in general is already predisposed to the false story of the rising crime rate. This is anot easy leap for them to make.

  127. 127.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @dm: Hakama are a type of culotte. I have several pairs and wear them in the dojo. The guy I was referring to does as well. He was not, and I emphasize not wearing hakama. He was wearing western style culottes and he’s also got several pairs of capri pants for men. I’m beginning to think he’s been hit in the head one to many times…

  128. 128.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    @Viva BrisVegas: Given that the Reichstag Fire was set by someone from Holland and Hitler simply took advantage of it, they just need their own version of the Reichstag Fire.

  129. 129.

    efgoldman

    February 6, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @Steeplejack (sky-high wi-fi):

    Urban Dictionary can be sourced to sugar-crazed seventh-graders on a sleepover just making shit up.

    So, people who work in the current maladministration, then.

  130. 130.

    NoraLenderbee

    February 6, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @Princess: That misfired nicely.

  131. 131.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 6, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @Anne Laurie: The 84 Lumber CEO is a Trump supporter. The ad was supposed to be a positive image of the President’s “Big, Beautiful Door”. For whatever reason it was misunderstood by both the NFL folks that vet these things and by almost everyone in the media after the information came out that the full add wouldn’t be allowed to run. The full ad, as originally intended to air, was anti-undocumented immigrants from Mexico, other Central American, and South American states.

  132. 132.

    Anne Laurie

    February 6, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The 84 Lumber CEO is a Trump supporter. The ad was supposed to be a positive image of the President’s “Big, Beautiful Door”.

    Sure. That’s what the advertising agency told the CEO, anyways!

  133. 133.

    randy khan

    February 6, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Oh, Raven totally was. Even not considering the baby nuke.

  134. 134.

    Princess

    February 6, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    @neldob: Because it is what they claimed themselves on their FB page. The door in the wall was intended to refer to the “great big door” Trump said would be there to allow in the “right” kind of immigrants.

  135. 135.

    BruceJ

    February 6, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    Damn, but if I didn’t hear Neal Diamond’s “America” through that whole commercial…

  136. 136.

    BruceJ

    February 6, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Who am I to believe, you or my lying eyes? There was no implication of any of that in that ad. If that was the intent it was expertly and astonishingly misconstrued on all levels from design to approval to production and airing.

  137. 137.

    Manyakitty

    February 6, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @rikyrah: I stumbled upon VSB about a month ago, and hoo buddy! That’s awesome right there!

  138. 138.

    Nan

    February 6, 2017 at 10:28 pm

    @jeffreyw: There used to be a DC3 that flew from Boston to Provincetown. I took a flight on it once – definitely felt like climbing up stairs to get to the exit.

  139. 139.

    momus

    February 6, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    The trump Administration is becoming what the military calls “A target rich environment!”

    @Nan I’m so old that I used to fly DC3 out of OHare to college, one of my classmates was an Army brat, he had flown all over the world on military aircraft. Got air sick every time he stepped onto a DC3. It didn’t even need to take off.

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