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From January in Colorado:

This week in Alabama, courtesy of Left In Alabama:

L-05’s most famous chicken, Congressman Mo Brooks, just got burned.  He showed the world tonight that he really can’t take the heat. Barely 24 hours after his office in DC, his district office in Huntsville, and the local Tea Party group announced that the planned public town hall had been canceled…. Brooks showed up anyway. His “canceled” meeting got canceled again when members of the actual public showed up to participate.

But not “on time.” Those suspicious individuals who attended “just in case” were told that Brooks’ appearance had been canceled. Fortunately, they stayed long enough to send out a confirmed sighting of our district’s most famous chicken.

Earlier in the evening, the Tea Party folks made a great show of complaining about how many extra hot dogs they had, and waved off the hired police presence, since “no protests” were expected.

Once the coast was clear (he thought), Rep. Brooks strolled casually into his native habitat: a Tea Party meeting hosted in a Baptist church. Oh, but word quickly went forth. Fortuitously,  Madison County Democrats were meeting just a few miles away, and they quickly headed for the Tea Party event.

Amazingly. it ended as soon as they arrived and began trying to ask questions.

Got any other links to more republican cowards?

 

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  1. 1.

    Betty Cracker

    People who try to visit Lil Marco’s Tampa office are met with a locked door. There’s a GOP congressman holding an event tomorrow in the next county over. I hear turnout is expected to be heavy!

  2. 2.

    Betty Cracker

    PS: One thing I find incredibly heartening is that red state Dems are connecting and making their presence known — like in Alabama and the FL Panhandle. We might be outnumbered, but we’re here, damn it.

  3. 3.

    cranky

    None of this matters, unless there is more VALID voter registrations, and VALID votes against him in the next election.

    The coward has his firm belief – all these protests and protesters will not make a difference in the vote count in the next election.

    Prove him wrong. at. the. voting. booth.

  4. 4.

    randy khan

    Can anyone recall if the Democrats who got bombarded by the Tea Party at their 2010 town hall meetings slipped out into the night? I seem to remember that they stayed and took it.

  6. 6.

    Jeffro

    Hey Republicans! Eventually, at the end, after you’ve tried everything else, try standing for something. It’s a little scary at first but it gets easier with time and practice.

  7. 7.

    hovercraft

    * On a related note, Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.) has cancelled an upcoming event for constituents, because, according to his communications director, the event had been “re-branded by a group of liberal activists.”

  10. 10.

    ? Martin

    @randy khan: My recollection is that a few did, particularly when the events started getting out of hand. I know at least one rep arrived at his town hall to see himself being hung in effigy. My sense is that while the current protests are loud, they aren’t nearly as angry/violent as the Tea Party ones tended to descend to. I’m sure there were relatively civil ones then, and it remains to be seen where the liberal protests will head, but I don’t recall any Dems backing out over difficult questions – rather over threats of violence, rage with no particular means of responding, etc.

  11. 11.

    scav

    @hovercraft: “re-branded” ? I mean, the liberal activists is wellworn as “clearly non-americans that have no legitimate status for representation or voice”, but rebranded? They really have all been taken over by airport books on MBA marketing and cheap inspirational posters.

  13. 13.

    bemused senior

    Is there any way to have a voter registration event related to these town halls? Perhaps signing up to carpool people to voter registration sites, or trainings to help volunteers understand registration requirements. Helping get missing ID documents, etc.

  14. 14.

    Singular

    It’s like the Walking Dead… they are stacking repub corpses so high, they are having to climb over themselves. Keep it up.

  16. 16.

    hovercraft

    A blueprint for resistance to Trump has emerged. Here’s what it looks like.

    By Greg Sargent

    Two of the biggest news stories of the moment — the court’s remarkable rebuke to President Trump’s immigration ban on Thursday night, and the continuing controversy over Kellyanne Conway’s staging of a White House commercial for Ivanka Trump’s clothing line — together suggest that something with potentially lasting significance may be happening right now.

    It’s this: The outlines of a meaningful blueprint for resisting Trump are now taking shape.

    This applies both to the battle against Trump’s authoritarian impulses and serial shredding of our democratic norms, and to the battle against the various ways in which Trump will work with Republicans to advance a more conventional GOP agenda. This blueprint has five crucial components:

    1) Have (guarded) faith in our system. Thursday’s unanimous decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit — which kept the hold in place for now — is significant. Crucially, the decision affirmed the role of the courts in “reviewing the constitutionality of actions taken by the executive to promote national security … even in times of conflict.”

    2) Keep pressuring Republicans to exercise real oversight on Trump. The fact that House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) agreed to rebuke Kellyanne Conway for her on-air commercial for Ivanka’s clothing line is an indication that congressional Republicans cannot ignore any and all of the Trump White House’s ethical transgressions forever……..

    3) Fight hard in the Senate with all available procedural weapons…….Congressional scholar Sarah Binder has a good piece Friday that details all the procedural tools that Senate Democrats can use to “focus attention on controversial parts of the president’s agenda and force Republicans to cast potentially unpopular votes.”…………….

    4) Keep looking to civil society and try to fortify it where possible………a loosely knit coalition of legal and political groups, given ammunition by intense scrutiny from watchdogs and media outlets, and backed up by meaningful, sustained public mobilization — can have a real illuminating and constraining impact……………

    5) Keep Trump distracted and off balance, to minimize the damage he can do. It is often argued that Trump throws out chum about trivial matters to distract the press from covering more damaging stories. But I’m going to suggest an alternate possibility: Trump’s cause is also harmed by trivial, petty and burlesque distractions………….

  17. 17.

    Mike J

    Pressure works. Under Armour publicly comes out against Muslim ban after their pres comes out in favor, athlete endorsers speak out against him, and boycott starts to spin up.

  19. 19.

    scav

    @Baud: They can start suing all those rabid disagreeing constituents for unfairly harming their right to a re-election, the loss of photo-ops for brand promotion and loss of a future guaranteed income stream. “The economic damage to the plaintiff’s brand, and licensing, marketing and endorsement opportunities caused by the [fill in the blank activity]” could be the new Trumpian boilerplate.

  20. 20.

    joel hanes

    while the current protests are loud, they aren’t nearly as angry/violent as the Tea Party

    Nor as well-armed.

    Nor do the Dem activists stoop to threats of violence, explicit or implied.

  21. 21.

    The Moar You Know

    Darryl Issa is having a real bad time here in my local district, seems to have cancelled all town halls (easy for him, he has never really done more than a few of them) and has been reduced to crawling the local brewpubs and asking people if they like the beer. WHICH IS GREAT.

    San Diego beer is shit by the way. We have over three hundred brewpubs in this county and I can’t find one that is either grossly over-sweetened (lookin’ at you, Stone) or over-hopped.

  23. 23.

    Russ

    Tea partiers were angered against some intangible thing/idea and six years later many of them have experienced Obamacare and like it. The tea party had anger then and now protesters have healthcare and they know what it’s like to go without. More and more from both parties don’t want to return to 2008.

  24. 24.

    Mnemosyne

    @cranky:

    It’s both/and. Turning out for these kinds of events can help people connect and make the rep look less popular. People turned against the PPACA because the Tea Party raised a ruckus at every event that a Democrat appeared at and made themselves look like a larger movement than they actually were.

    Keep up the pressure AND register folks to vote AND make sure everyone has the ID they need to vote. It’s a multi-part task.

  26. 26.

    Mnemosyne

    @The Moar You Know:

    I guess Mary G’s daily calls to Issa’s office are working. ?

    And every IPA is over-hopped right now. My husband complains that they’ve turned beer-making into a contest for who can cram more hops into the bottle.

  28. 28.

    clay

    It is often argued that Trump throws out chum about trivial matters to distract the press from covering more damaging stories.

    I could be wrong, but I find it really hard to believe that Trump is that calculating. He constantly tweets about trivial matters, not to distract anyone, but because he, himself, is obsessed with trivial matters.

    (The fact that ill-intentioned factors of his administration use his distractability to advance their own agendas is a separate issue.)

  30. 30.

    Jeffro

    @joel hanes: (re: Tea Party protests)

    Nor as well-armed.

    Nor do the Dem activists stoop to threats of violence, explicit or implied.

    Nor do we put up posters of presidents with bones through their noses, or question their country of birth.

  33. 33.

    Jeffro

    @The Moar You Know: @Mnemosyne:

    I seem to have developed a later-in-life sensitivity/allergy to hops, so in most cases I skip the good stuff and go with beers that most people find, um, a bit pedestrian. Let’s just say I had Anheuser-Busch’s back well before the Super Bowl and leave it at that.

  37. 37.

    ? Martin

    @Jeffro:

    Let’s just say I had Anheuser-Busch’s back well before the Super Bowl and leave it at that.

    I’m so sorry to hear that. You know, science is doing remarkable things these days, and I expect soon some of our best minds will find a way to restore your quality of life. In the mean time, we stand with you.

  38. 38.

    The Moar You Know

    I guess Mary G’s daily calls to Issa’s office are working.

    @Mnemosyne: She’s not the only one. We’re both local and constituents. They’ve blocked her phone, and they’re not picking up mine anymore either. So snailmail.

    I seem to have developed a later-in-life sensitivity/allergy to hops, so in most cases I skip the good stuff and go with beers that most people find, um, a bit pedestrian. Let’s just say I had Anheuser-Busch’s back well before the Super Bowl and leave it at that.

    @Jeffro: Ain’t nothing wrong with Budweiser. I drink it at clubs and concerts so I stay hydrated and don’t get drunk. Does very well at both.

    Just got back from Britain, you might do OK with some of their beer. But I did Germany a few years ago, and you’d do very well with their beer. I loved it, but sadly, it doesn’t travel.

  41. 41.

    Roger Moore

    @Mnemosyne:

    And every IPA is over-hopped right now.

    That’s kind of like complaining that soft drinks are oversweetened; it’s kind of the point. I think part of the point of IPAs- from the brewer’s POV at least- is that they can overhop them as a way of hiding other defects. That said, I think we’re probably at or just past Peak IPA; the next big thing is going to be sour/wild fermented beers.

  43. 43.

    ? Martin

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Yeah, that was actually an organized activity with open carry groups advocating to specifically go to town halls armed.

    Needless to say that died down at least a bit after Giffords was shot at a town hall event..

  44. 44.

    zhena gogolia

    Our “new” (defeated a while ago, now re-elected) Republican state senator had a town hall and was shocked to discover people didn’t like his anti-abortion proposal, so he hid the announcement of the next one. When people showed up to that one too, he cancelled the third one. They are candy-asses to a man/woman.

  45. 45.

    zhena gogolia

    @laura:

    Yes, I love the woman who’s introducing the Mo Brooks video. I don’t have time to watch the whole thing, but I identify with her bigly.

  48. 48.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    Note to the resistance: turn your goddamn cell phones sideways to get a decent aspect ratio on the picture. Full-length portrait of one person and the floor is not helpful. Or is this yet another sign that I’m old?

  49. 49.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @hovercraft:

    BAUD 2020 !!
    Re-Branded by Liberal Activists
    Only BAUD Can Keep Us Safe !!

    I thought Baud’s motto was “Make America Strip Again”

  51. 51.

    JPL

    @LevelB: Wow! I hope to see that level of excitement during the special election to replace Price. Tom Price avoided debates and got away with it, I don’t think that will work during the special election.

  53. 53.

    David Spikes

    @Betty Cracker: OT but fabulous-Abe’s face after Trump holds his hand for a long time and then pats it repeatedly. Someone needs to curate people’s reactions to Trump.

  54. 54.

    Miss Bianca

    @Mnemosyne: Not *every* IPA – just the West Coast ones.

    Except for Sierra Nevada – last I checked, that one is still my standard for “drinkable” IPA.

  57. 57.

    sukabi

    These aholes need to be reminded that they work for ALL of the people in their districts, not just the two that agree with them.

  58. 58.

    David Spikes

    @Miss Bianca: West coast goes crazy sometimes-wineries oaking their chardonnays so much that it’s like chewing on a tree branch-but people loved it.

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    @Roger Moore:
    Hast to be a reward of freshness and body behind the bitterness to make hoppy ales work. My example of a reasonably available go-to California IPA is Bear River’s Racer 5. Just hoppy is as bad as just hot with chili–pleasure with the pain, por favor.

  61. 61.

    Betty Cracker

    @Roger Moore: Not a fan of the sours, perhaps because the first one I ever tried tasted like someone had wrung a closing-time bar rag into my mug. I’m tired of the over-hopped crap too. I’ll be over there in the corner, sippin’ my tripel.

  66. 66.

    randy khan

    @cranky:

    On a basic level I agree, but it helps to have the visuals of people sneaking out of town halls, “cancelling” them when people they don’t want to hear show up, etc. It gives the impression that they have something to hide or are afraid of their own constituents. Marginal voters see that stuff and it makes it harder to get their support.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    Haha. The Guardian (via Reddit)

    The government has abandoned the idea of Donald Trump addressing the joint Houses of Parliament when he comes to Britain for a state visit later this year after objections by MPs led by the Commons Speaker John Bercow.

    The US president’s controversial visit is now expected to run from a Thursday to a Sunday in late summer or early autumn, with officials trying to ensure that Trump is not in London at a time when parliament is sitting, in order to avoid a formal snub.

    ETA: “Shh. Stay quiet and maybe he’ll think nobody is home and go away.”

  70. 70.

    Jeffro

    @The Moar You Know:

    Ain’t nothing wrong with Budweiser. I drink it at clubs and concerts so I stay hydrated and don’t get drunk. Does very well at both.

    Just got back from Britain, you might do OK with some of their beer. But I did Germany a few years ago, and you’d do very well with their beer. I loved it, but sadly, it doesn’t travel.

    I’m confused about the whole ‘go to a concert and not get drunk’ thing, but thanks for the beer tips! I do seem to do ok with Guiness (someone once told me it has low/no histamines?), and with wheat beers (like Widmer Hefeweizen), so there’s that.

  73. 73.

    randy khan

    @ Martin:

    Well, if they’ve hung you in effigy, there’s a personal safety issue. I think that’s excusable. So far, the Republicans seem to just be spooked that they’re so . . . popular.

  74. 74.

    germy

    Seeing these cowards run… it reminds me of when Elizabeth Warren was campaigning, and a deranged RWNJ stood up during a question & answer session to hurl abuse at her.

    She listened and firmly answered his questions. She didn’t hightail it out of there.

  75. 75.

    donnah

    @Miss Bianca:

    Yummy! I got to visit the Sierra Nevada brewery near Hendersonville, NC a couple of weeks ago and not only is the Stout delicious, the food in the restaurant is amazing.

  76. 76.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Jeffro: Widmer Hefeweizen is not bad, but there are very few brewers of any sort (outside of a friend of mine who is an excellent homebrewer) who come close to the real deal you get in Germany.

  79. 79.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @germy: Barney Frank basically told some woman that he could have a more intelligent conversation with a kitchen table than her.

    Rethugs are such cowardly maggots.

  82. 82.

    Kay

    Maggie Haberman ‏@maggieNYT 4h4 hours ago
    More
    Really hard to overstate level of misery radiating from several members of White House staff over last few days.

    It won’t get better either. The only problems they’ve had have been wholly of their own making. Wait until they get a real crisis. Imagine Trump with oil spewing into a gulf, or a Katrina, or an economic crisis. He can’t handle Nordstrom dropping his daughter’s clothing line.

    90% of his problems are due to his own big mouth.

  87. 87.

    MCA1

    @Jeffro: My hope is that we can emulate one other thing, though, from the Tea Partiers: copious usage of the Gadsden flag. I hate that it’s been co-opted by tricorner hat wearing douches and revanchist crackers. Take that f’ing thing back!

  89. 89.

    Millard Filmore

    @Baud:

    I shall lead by example.

    You’re not a guy are you? I thought you are a guy. Maybe I will have to send my vote elsewhere.

  90. 90.

    Jeffro

    @geg6:

    Toomey’s office won’t pick up the phone and he hasn’t show his face in public for weeks.

    It’ll be interesting to see, when they can’t hold a town hall meeting, when they have to spend the next several years ducking their constiutents, when they quit getting invited to speak at commencements, when their fundraising is for crap…will some of these guys just not run again?

  91. 91.

    ? Martin

    @Kay: They are apparently not sufficiently miserable, still operating under the delusion that they can make that a functional operation.

  93. 93.

    Jeffro

    @MCA1: I liked the Obamacare version, the one that had a doctor’s stethoscope looped around like a rattler and said, “don’t tread on my Obamacare”

  95. 95.

    ? Martin

    Sounds like Oroville Dam will just squeak by. If it does overtop, it will be just barely, assuming it doesn’t rain today.

    That said, with rains coming up next week, I’m not sure how they get the water level down quickly enough to not be right back in this same situation. I haven’t seen any pictures of the spillway today, but at 65K CFS, it must be in complete shambles.

  96. 96.

    geg6

    @Jeffro:

    We have a group here that we’ve organized, but we can’t find a Republican who is holding any public meetings at any level of government. We’re calling ourselves the Order of the Phoenix.

  98. 98.

    rikyrah

    I said long ago…
    He NEVER wanted to do THE WORK of the PRESIDENT
    He just wanted TO BE President

    ………………………..

    He doesnt like this sh*t: Trump reportedly hates his job and his staff after less than a month.

    Source: Rawstory

    After just three weeks on the job, President Donald Trump is reportedly frustrated with the realities of trying to run the U.S. government the way he manages his family-owned business.

    Politico interviewed nearly two dozen people who have spent time with the former real estate developer and reality TV star since his inauguration — and they said Trump’s “mood has careened between surprise and anger as he’s faced the predictable realities of governing,” according to the report.

    “The interviews paint a picture of a powder-keg of a workplace where job duties are unclear, morale among some is low, factionalism is rampant and exhaustion is running high,” Politico reported. “Two visitors to the White House last week said they were struck by how tired the staff looks.”

    Trump would like to shake up his White House staff less than a month into the job but knows it’s too soon, the website reported, and aides joke that the president would like to spend even more time golfing at his Mar-A-Lago resort.

  99. 99.

    Jeffro

    @p.a.: Well, maybe it won’t be an issue…but the more unpopular these clowns get, then – in theory – the more money it should take to prop them up for a run. But it still won’t make them popular. I mean someone mentioned earlier that Meg Whitman (formerly of eBay) ran for CA gov and spend $100M and she got her head handed to her.

    And fundraising won’t make you less loathed if you still have the stink of Trump on you…”Trumpsubstantiation” (h/t Betty) just won’t wash out, no matter how many times you pay to have it dry-cleaned. The only way to campaign with that stink on you is if your opponent has a private server or writes emails or something…or has had about four decades’ worth of Republican smears dropped on her. They can’t pull that off again anytime soon…

  100. 100.

    ThresherK

    Please tell Alain that the video embeds are broken. I don’t hear Yakety Sax on either of them.

  101. 101.

    NeenerNeener

    @Jeffro: It should make for some interesting ads for their opponents in 2018. The commercials practically write themselves.

  104. 104.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Mo Brooks. Chris Hayes’ favorite Republican MOC. For reasons he has never explained.

  105. 105.

    rikyrah

    Taniel Verified account
    ‏@Taniel

    Taniel Retweeted Josh Dawsey

    This is *perfect* example of how Trump’s lies & fabrications about mass voter fraud are laying groundwork for GOP to restrict voting laws.

    Josh Dawsey Verified account
    ‏@jdawsey1

    Trump tells senators he and Ayotte would have won NH if fraudulent voters weren’t brought in from Massachusetts.

  106. 106.

    Miss Bianca

    @rikyrah: Yeah, but *Obama* spent all that time playing golf! And going on vacation! He made it look so easy! I mean, if The Black Guy could do it, why not The Donald??

    And the American people gave this fuckstick the most important job in the world because…HER EMAILS.

    Jesus wept.

  107. 107.

    raven

    It was big and the gutless fucks didn’t show

    “Hundreds of concerned citizens” will travel to Greensboro Friday morning to “voice their opinions on current national issues and seek answers to questions surrounding the same issues,” according to the local activist group Athens for Everyone.

    They’ll meet with staff members for Rep. Jody Hice (R-Monroe) and Republican Sens. David Perdue and Johnny Isakson from 10 a.m.–noon at the Greene County Government Office, 1034 Silver Drive.

    “This event will provide space for constituents of the 10th Congressional District of Georgia and beyond to be heard as they express concern over the stance our representatives have taken on pressing national issues that will affect their constituents,” A4E says.

    photos

    http://onlineathens.com/slideshow/2017-02-10/photos-greensboro-rally-draws-hundreds#slide-1

  109. 109.

    Roger Moore

    @Betty Cracker:

    Not a fan of the sours

    There are good ones and bad ones, that’s for sure. I’m more making a prediction than anything. I’ve started to see more sours coming out, so I’m predicting that’s going to be the next trendy thing.

  110. 110.

    p.a.

    @Jeffro: Hope Cali is, as in the past, a bellweather for the US. Remember the anti-tax stuff got its rollout there, and blew up there, leading to the current Dem dominance (I know, demographics too…), Gay Marriage, voting rights, the resucitation(sp?) of public college education… May it come quickly, and not take a generation!

  111. 111.

    joel hanes

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    In NoCal, Redwood/ Gordon Biersch does a very passable Marzen, and their Blonde Bock is a fave.

    But yeah: there’s nothing here to compare with Das Gute Zirndofer. Or Patrizer Poculator. Or M.C. Wieninger, Or …

  112. 112.

    trollhattan

    @? Martin:
    Still netting 1.24 acre-feet gain per second so inflow will hopefully drop to the discharge rate in the next half day or so.

  113. 113.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    @Mnemosyne:

    One of the reasons I have found myself moving more to lagers.

    When I was in Las Vegas I got reacquainted with Alaskan Amber “alt-style ale,” which is very good. Available in California, I believe.

  114. 114.

    joel hanes

    @Kay:

    sigh.

    While the schadenfreude is delicious, still I find Maggie Haberman’s celebrity-gossip-model brand of “reporting” to be something to avoid.

  115. 115.

    Roger Moore

    @Jeffro:

    In all fairness, the guy does have to work with Flynn, Bannon, and Priebus

    No, he doesn’t. He could shitcan those guys and put competent, pleasant people in their jobs instead. You don’t get to complain about how miserable your job is because of the subordinates you hired.

  116. 116.

    trollhattan

    @Roger Moore:
    In my corner of the beer world they’re now de-emphasizing sours and pushing “Northeast style” IPAs that are cloudy, somewhat less alcoholic than West Coast IPAs and often have a tart finish. Not a big fan so far, but they seem more like summer fare and it ain’t summer.

  118. 118.

    trollhattan

    @Steeplejack (tablet):
    Some of our small brewers do lagers in winter but to do them in summer they need expensive chillers, which most can’t afford. The area’s second-oldest brewpub are German and do good lagers and a great Märzen.

  123. 123.

    HRA

    @Kay:

    DT will ignore everything unless it is (hate to even write it down) biglyier than WTC and has the right perpetrators for his agenda.

  124. 124.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    Got to put in a good word for clean, refreshing, and (yes) HOPPY northwest IPAs. I want to smell the hops almost more than taste them. Sure, there are plenty of mediocre IPAs, and plenty that aren’t my style. But when you find a good one, there’s nothing else like it!

  127. 127.

    Immanentize

    @rikyrah:

    Politico interviewed nearly two dozen people who have spent time with the former real estate developer

    This White House is a leaky shit show.

  132. 132.

    PK

    @Roger Moore:

    No, he doesn’t. He could shitcan those guys and put competent, pleasant people in their jobs instead. You don’t get to complain about how miserable your job is because of the subordinates you hired.

    Competent people would tell him the truth and be out in a minute. Pleasant people would not choose to work with him. All the people around him are just as unpleasant as he is. They only smile when others suffer. Can you name one person in his group that you’d like to spend any time with? His persona will make sure that he is forever surrounded by either evil or sycophants.

  133. 133.

    J R in WV

    @Miss Bianca:

    Yes, that’s how we can have good beer back east. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale in 12-packs of cans for $14. Packs tighter, lighter, less fuel to transport, same great taste! Nooner pilsner too!

  134. 134.

    J R in WV

    @joel hanes:

    Can’t stand the Belgian beers… almost none of them please my taste. Lambic Ales, made with random yeasts floating in the air? Fruity beer? NO hops is just a bad as all the hops you can cram into the solution. Sad.

  138. 138.

    joel hanes

    @J R in WV:

    Lambic Ales, made with random yeasts floating in the air? Fruity beer?

    Maredsous Tripel is neither.

    I don’t much like either the fruity or lambic ones myself.
    But Chimay Cinq Cents and Maredsous Tripel are superb.

  139. 139.

    Steve in the ATL

    @J R in WV: I agree with the others in disagreeing with you and note that (1) beer in a can is not good beer; and (2) Belgian beer is the best in the world (suck it, Germany!).

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    Sloane Ranger

    @SFAW: There’s an old joke.

    Why is drinking Watney’s like making love in a punt?

    Because it’s fcuking close to water!

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