I call upon @POTUS to immediately share NH voter-fraud evidence so that his allegations may be investigated promptly https://t.co/cyjUTMXptk pic.twitter.com/DAnsA1cB0n
— Ellen L Weintraub (@EllenLWeintraub) February 10, 2017
This needs to happen every time twitler makes a false statement. That these Senators sat in silence while he said it is outrageous. Good for Weintraub for calling his bullshit.
Everyone in a position of power or the media needs to demand evidence for everyone of his claims. In public and don’t stop. Murder rate highest it’s ever been? Show us your documented facts to prove this. Mexico is going to pay for the wall? Show us the signed agreement.
And so on and so forth….
And it needs to be tied to the Republicans every time. Do they agree with his statements? Do they have the facts to back it up? What are they going to do to stop his incessant lying. Ask publicly and redirect them every time they try to slither around it.
Shitgibbon, indeed.
Yarrow
That is excellent! Good for her.
Yes. This. The Republican administration. The Republican president. The Republicans say… He’s theirs. Make them own him.
schrodingers_cat
Not a twittler or a troll
Corner Stone
Please God. Please keep Trump shtum on this whole NoKo kerfuffle.
Josie
Yes. Make them prove it. Every time.
schrodingers_cat
@Corner Stone: NoKo? North Korea? What happened?
Corner Stone
Trump just stonefaced a question about the NoKo missile firing test. Thank God.
Corner Stone
@schrodingers_cat: NoKo fired a ballistic missile into the Eastern Sea. Some 500KM towards Japan. Nothing happened but it’s a straight up FUCK YOU to Trump and Abe.
Mike in NC
@schrodingers_cat: Trump: “Where is North Korea? Do I own any properties there?”
Mathguy
Please correct it: it’s loofa-faced, ferret-wearing shitgibbon.
Baud
@Corner Stone: I don’t understand. Aren’t they supposed to respect us now that Trump is president?
Corner Stone
I can’t imagine Obama ever not having information ready to at least respond in the most minimal way. But I am honestly relieved that Trump just said nothing when asked.
*sphincter unclenched for the moment*
FlyingToaster
Trump supposedly got his info from former-Senator Centerfold, lil’ Scotty Brown. Who moved to Lake Winnepesaukee and assumed he would get the nomination (not) to get beat by Jeanne Shaheen.
New Hampshire has voter ID. There were busloads of Massholes who went up to canvas, but a Mass DL won’t get you into a New Hamster polling place, just the State Liquor Stores.
Thru the Looking Glass...
Ya know, I really, really like this…
Call the fool on his lies… DON’T let crap like this go unaddressed…
I almost fell off my chair laughing earlier in the week when Scott Pelley off w/…
Every last time that clown or anybody associated w/ his admin tells some kind of stunningly stupid, OBVIOUS lie, CALL. THEM. OUT. Immediately…
chopper
@Baud:
am I the only one here who’s sick of all the winning?
jl
Trump very probably delusional enough to really believe total BS about losing the popular vote because of illegal voting by non-citizen immigrants at the polls. Or maybe Trump doesn’t realize that naturalized citizens have the right to vote?
Either way, will make immigration policy under Trump a nightmare, but may well complicate GOP and Trump/Bannon/Sessions plans to suppress the vote if he insists on chasing phantoms to vindicate his lousy candidacy.
BTW, until the 1930s, many states allowed non-citizen immigrants to vote in local and state elections. Maybe that is one of the differences between a healthy democracy that has faith in the people who choose to live within its borders and a nation infested with degraded xenophobic habitually pissed pants scared chickenshit and vengeful citizens incapable of self-government. Not everyone of course, not even a majority, but enough of them to mess things up for the rest, both citizens and immigrants.
Thru the Looking Glass...
@Mathguy: One more correction…
… loofa-faced, DEAD-ferret-wearing shitgibbon.
Baud
@chopper: It’s tiring.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@jl:
Bingo. Didn’t he make a statement earlier this year to the effect that he could tell the voters in line were not legitimate voters by just looking at them?
Republicans are fully aware of the demographic time bomb and you just know they’re trying to work up a “legal” mass disenfranchisement far beyond the scale of anything we’ve seen so far.
Iowa Old Lady
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I thought he was talking about dead people on the voting lists or something. Trying to follow his arguments makes my head hurt.
hovercraft
@Baud:
They are so scared of him that they are conducting missile tests just to show him how weak they are. RESPECT, Gangnam style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 Lil Kim and him are all about subtlety as is Psy.
? Martin
@Josie: Yeah, I think the WH Press Corps should organize to constantly ask followup questions on these lies – until they get proof or a recantation and to block the coverage of other content. Stop inviting WH officials on their shows until we start getting answers.
We should do the same with town halls.
efgoldman
@Iowa Old Lady:
The amazing thing is how 2.8 million frauds cast ballots in California, then got on buses and went to Massachusetts four hours before they could vote in California, to then be bused into NH by 800pm local time, and exceed the total population of the Granite state.
Or something.
hovercraft
@Baud:
They are so scared of him that they are conducting missile tests just to show him how weak they are. RESPECT,can you feel it? Gangnam style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0 Lil Kim and him are all about subtlety as is Psy.
Peale
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: yep. Many immigrants, you see, are taking advantage of us by following the rules, obtaining green cards, applying for citizenship and having babies. My guess is that the plan is to stop this wherever they can.
efgoldman
@? Martin:
Make sure you put that tooth under your pillow, leave cookies and milk for Santa, and ride your Unicorn to the town meeting.
SiubhanDuinne
Every time we see this kind of bravery, whether from a state lawmaker like PA state senator Daylin Leach, or a nationally-known elected official like US Senator Elizabeth Warren (MA), or a bureaucratic official nobody has previously heard of (former acting Attorney General Sally Yates, now FEC Commissioner Ellen Weintraub) — every time that happens, it makes it that much easier, and safer, for other officials and citizens across this country to step forward and say “THIS IS NOT RIGHT, THIS IS NOT JUST, THIS IS NOT NORMAL.”
Only three weeks in to this administration, and we already have a plethora of candidates for the “Profiles in Courage” award.
Stronger together.
efgoldman
@SiubhanDuinne:
Strange, not a single one is a RWNJ Republiklown….
? Martin
@efgoldman: Well, they’re clearly growing tired of this.
? Martin
@jl: California is looking at allowing 16 year olds to vote in school board elections.
Hal
Um, am I the only one who didn’t know Kelly Ayotte lost her Senate seat?! I guess in all the post election Trump drama I missed it completely. I almost feel bad about how gleeful I am at this realization. Almost.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman: Obama and his time machine strike yet again.
Jeffro
@Yarrow:
Yup. They had a (lame) excuse before, that they didn’t know how Orangemandias would govern, and/or that they’d “reign him in”. But he was a disaster from the election to the inauguration, and he’s been even worse since the inauguration. And now they’re going to be on record with their votes supporting his nonsense…as well as effectively being on the record when they ignore the things he does and take no action.
Keep it up and be happy warriors, people!
Baud
@Hal: Yep. One of the bright spots on election day.
SiubhanDuinne
@Corner Stone:
It cannot help matters that SoKo is in its own cluckfuster of a political/governing mess right now. And I guess it could be a genuine coincidence, but it’s interesting that this mid-range ballistic missile test happened at the very time PM Abe was visiting the new POTUS. I am not smart enough or well-read enough to read all the tea leaves, and as usual am hoping that Adam will have some well-educated thoughts later this evening.
Another Scott
@Hal: Team D picked up 2 Senate seats in November. You’d never know it, though, from the reporting of the “Republican Landslide that Demoralized Democrats” and the like….
(sigh)
Cheers,
Scott.
Villago Delenda Est
It occurred to me today that anyone who gets the “Don’t trust anyone over 30” reference long ago became untrustworthy.
amk
oh great, now we have a dick waver from north and a dick waver from north.
efgoldman
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
The question is: Did he transport one person 2.8 million times, or 2.8 million, once?
Inquiring science minds want to know.
Mike J
@? Martin:
Spicer can always call on Fox, Washington Times, or other wingnut media outlets, and they’ll happily ask why Trump is such a swell guy.
Villago Delenda Est
@efgoldman: The White House Press Corpse, like all components of the Village, are beyond worthless.
Wipe them out. All of them.
efgoldman
@Villago Delenda Est:
I know I have.
Jay Noble
Sooner or later, isn’t one of these lies going to cross the line of lying to law enforcement ala Martha Stewart?
raven
@Hal: I didn’t.
amk
chinese puppet vs russsian puppet.
Villago Delenda Est
@Corner Stone: DPRK, and ROK. North and south, respectively.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
Villago Delenda Est
@Jay Noble: Martha Stewart’s true crime is she made political contributions to Democrats.
Baud
@David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Oh god, I hope Trump knows that’s not the real one.
efgoldman
@Villago Delenda Est:
Send ’em to California to pick veggies.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: It sez real…
Baud
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I know! That’s why I’m worried.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@Villago Delenda Est:
“Shape of Things
to ComeThat Came,” Max Frost and the Troopers.David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
efgoldman
@Jay Noble:
Nope. Unless he’s asked for direct testimony. Even then, he’d still have to be impeached.
The Watergate grand jury named Tricksie Dicksie Nixie as an unindicted co-conspirator because the special prosecutor felt he couldn’t indict the president directly.
ETA: While he was actually in office.
Patricia Kayden
@jl: Or maybe Trump doesn’t realize that non-White citizens get to vote. I assume that people he heard about voting illegally weren’t of his complexion.
Omnes Omnibus
@Patricia Kayden:
He is orange. How many orange people are there?
Spanky
@Patricia Kayden:
Does anyone else on this planet actually have his complexion?
jl
@Patricia Kayden: We have Trump’s own word that he is the least bigoted person ever in the multiverse. And we all know how good Trump’s word is on things. (Edit: Trump’s word is the best word in the multi-history of the multiverse. We know that is true because Trump sez so.)
raven
@Villago Delenda Est: Not PC but we called them Joe.
efgoldman
@Patricia Kayden: @Omnes Omnibus:
Not enough to swing an election.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: Well, there’s the former Speaker of the House.
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: I suppose the Syracuse mascot counts as well.
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: John Boehner.
Bruuuuce
Yep. I have been telling everyone I know that with regard to El Presidente and his minions, “Ich bin ein Missourian. SHOW ME.”
You’d think they’d fake up their evidence to have on hand when they lie, instead of telling us to wait while the ink dries.
efgoldman
@Bruuuuce:
They have yoooge warehouses full of invisible ink, just for this purpose. You just can’t see them.
David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch
GregB
@Hal:
It was one of the few bright spots on that night of unalloyed misery.
NH sent an all Democratic, all female delegation to DC but turned the Governer and state house and senate to the Goobers.
JMG
This is so simple. China made Trump back up on Friday, China’s psycho little sibling N. Korea acts out today. Every country on earth knows that if they take it to the limit (all China did was ignore him for three months) he’ll fold like a cheap suitcase.
Aleta
In USA Today
Keep calling.
Tokyokie
@Jay Noble: I’d say that HHS Secretary Tom Price took a running jump over that line already.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
It’s so frustrating that these people with real power just sit there cowed. But now we have a brave leader in Ellen Weintraub (a woman, I must note) who has stood up. Leaders are essential, but “>the rule of First Followers is now in effect. First Followers are the most important aspect of any movement, which is where we are now, and without First Followers, nothing will happen.
amk
@Aleta: This. Checks and balances.
amk
Bruuuuce
@efgoldman: Yeah. The very bestest ink, that only El Presidente could concoct.
efgoldman
HAH! Libturd doutterz! Gothcer now! Looky here, rampant, RAMPANT voter fraud I tells ya’! (h/t LG&M)
amk
Mnemosyne
@raven:
Random war trivia: when the British were fighting the Americans during the Revolution and the War of 1812, the nickname they gave the Americans was “Jonathan” since there seemed to be so goddamned many of them by that name.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: British soldiers often refer to officers as Ruperts because so many of then are named Rupert.
efgoldman
@amk:
I get the feeling that Republiklown town halls are going to be extinct very soon.
Whether that will be enough to keep people energized without a direct object of anger, we’ll see.
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Now I’m wondering how the Germans ended up as “Jerry.”
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Not Ruprecht?
amk
@efgoldman: If people convert their energy/anger/disgust directly into votes, the rethugs need not worry about townhalls again.
amk
@Mnemosyne: jerrycans?
chris
@Omnes Omnibus: Discworld too! Currently reading Monstrous Regiment by T. Pratchett.
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne:
Aleta
@efgoldman: She registered as a Republican and voted R in both elections.
And I believe she was prosecuted by a guy she had voted for in 2014.
Achrachno
@efgoldman: You forgot to mention that’s she’s a republican “voter”. I think we’ve seen that before.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: The Prince Rupert who commanded the Royalist cavalry during there English Civil War was actually a Ruprecht.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
But he wasn’t anywhere near as funny.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Oh, really?
Lizzy L
@Mnemosyne: During the American Civil War, the Confederate soldiers were called “Johnny Reb.”
And as all readers of Rudyard Kipling know, the Brits called their infantryman “Tommy Atkins”, or just “Tommy.”
“You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!”
Adrift
@Aleta:
Yes! This is my congressman and I am so proud of this. I’ve already called and thanked his local office. I should send them lunch or gift cards.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adrift: Great. You’re here. Another thread killed. :P
hovercraft
@Aleta:
So if she’s a GOPer concerned about “illegals” voting, which they all seen to be, why the hell would she do it? Is she stupid, did she think that she was exempt? What the hell is wrong with these people who keep voting for people who say they will punish them, and then when they do exactly what they said they would do they are shocked. Serves her right, she made her bed, now she gets to lay in it.
Adrift
@Omnes Omnibus:
I should have waited a while before I murdered it.
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
It sounds like she didn’t realize she wasn’t a citizen since she was (illegally) brought here as an infant. Whoops!
Omnes Omnibus
@Adrift: You should have waited for a new one to appear. Now, all we have is this zombie thread.
efgoldman
@Adrift:
He can ask all he wants; the majority is NOT going to do it.
hovercraft
@efgoldman:
Of the tens of people who have been found committing “voter fraud” in the last few cycles, haven’t the vast majority of them been republicans?
Adrift
@Omnes Omnibus:
Omnes Omnibus
@hovercraft: Including Ann Coulter.
Adrift
@efgoldman: But at least it’s out there. Pascrell can make a lot of noise, if he wants to. I will keep the pressure on.
efgoldman
@hovercraft:
Eight fucking years??!? Let’s see, I expectorated in the subway once, I should get at least 15-20, doncha’ think? How about five years for your last parking ticket?
Did you READ the fucking article at the link?
There’s something about being the Texas AG that brings out the very worst asshole fascist in people.
ETA: Or did you leave out the snarkasm tag?
hovercraft
@Mnemosyne:
I guess I should feel sorry for her, but I’m pretty sure that when confronted with someone else in her situation, she would have been the first to say throw the book at her. Republicans are all about epiphanies when situations became personal, they have no empathy. Sorry but I still have no sympathy for her.
Chet Murthy
@hovercraft: First in her (admittedly weak) defense, she’s apparently only a little bit older than siblings who *are* citizens. So there’s some reason (from what I have read) to believe that her belief that she could vote was …. not wholly unreasonable (by which I mean, for a person of limited cognition, it’s possible she thought she’d thought it thru, even though she hadn’t). That said, that she knew her parents were undocumented, and she still went on to vote R *twice* …. well, y’know, the stupid runs thick in TX.
Also: just ‘cos she’s brown, don’t mean she ain’t stupid as a brick. Stupidity isn’t just for white folks, after all. It’s equal-oppty.
OK, all that said, one does get the feeling of “just deserts”. I can’t deny it, the schadenfreude did flow in me too, upon reading about it.
? Martin
@Mnemosyne: Exactly. Not that unusual, actually.
randy khan
@efgoldman:
Then we can have demonstrations at their offices.
amk
@efgoldman: preemptive surrender ain’t gonna cut it either.
Doug R
@Corner Stone: A missile fired from North Korea, once it passed Alaska the closest major city is Vancouver, BC. Which is where Seth Rogan is from and where they filmed The Interview.
amk
@hovercraft: I am with ya. We can show sympathy for her when she & her ilk reciprocate.
Achrachno
@hovercraft: Do we know any who were not Reps? Must have been a couple. Perfection is hard to achieve.
TS
If the political media was doing its job – instead of allowing the shitgibbon to lock them up in corners – the question would be front & center EVERY time the idiot speaks.
Omnes Omnibus
@TS: That conditional trips a body up every time.
Jeffro
Checking out Maddow’s segment on Flynn/Russia, entitled “How To Tell When Something’s a Big Deal”
Flynn, Mr. “First With the Standing Ovation for Putin” at that RT dinner…I think he’s a goner. Should be exciting to watch Pence, Priebus, and Spicer take hits for covering for him.
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
I’m not really that sympathetic, but it’s awfully ironic. It’s like the stories of the KKK or neo-Nazi members who find out that they themselves have African-American or Jewish ancestors.
Chet Murthy
@Mnemosyne: Obligatory Clayton Bigsby link.
sdhays
@amk: I agree that she’s not the most sympathetic person here, but 8 years is still an outrageous injustice. We shouldn’t lose sight of that.
amk
@sdhays: be that as it may, she did vote for it. wilfully. time to face the consequences. just like the death panel!!! peddlers/believers.
Omnes Omnibus
@sdhays: Ernesto Miranda was not a very nice man either.
Omnes Omnibus
@amk: Never get a job as a defense lawyer.
TS
@Omnes Omnibus: After their non-stop attacks on President Obama, I will NEVER understand how they allowed themselves to be herded into a cage & still continue to give him positive coverage. Got to be cowardice – scared of losing the miserable amount of political power that remains to them. Wonder when they will reach the stage of “nothing left to lose”
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Gideon wasn’t either, was he?
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Probably not. Most defendants aren’t lovely people. But they deserve a proper defense.
Jay Noble
@Tokyokie: Citizen’ Arrest! Citizen’s Arrest!
Amir Khalid
@Mnemosyne:
On the other hand, the “Dutch” angle was pioneered by a German filmmaker. And the Pennsylvania “Dutch” are in fact descendants of German settlers. So there’s that.
Villago Delenda Est
@Amir Khalid: Dutch = Deutsch. A pretty common mistake among Americans. My mom was born in Philly and didn’t understand the origin until I explained it to her when I took German in High School.
J R in WV
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, John Boehner, previously Republican Majority Leader of the U S House…. he was kinda orange.
Is it suspicious that they all seem to be Republicans??????????? Maybe we’re being invaded by aliens from Planet OrangeJulius??
Calming Influence
Every elected Democrat should refer to Trump as “Republican president and head of the Republican party Donald Trump…”
Shalimar
@efgoldman: The truly amazing thing is that Hillary Clinton had 3 million fake votes ready so she could turn a small total vote Trump win into a big total vote Clinton win even though she expected to win easily, but did not plan for 80 thousand of those fake votes to be in the states that would have actually given her an electoral college win.
“Mr. Trump, so you’re saying that even if Hillary Clinton didn’t have those 3-4 million fake voters, you would still only be almost exactly as popular as she is?”