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Open Thread: Theme of the Day

by Anne Laurie|  February 18, 20175:51 pm| 177 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome, Clown Shoes

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This raccoon is having a rough morning-just wanted some trash & ended up in Rosslyn!

>And yes I alerted the driver pic.twitter.com/L3y3JFBpFx

— Helena B. Evich (@hbottemiller) February 17, 2017

I am the raccoon; the garbage truck is the news. https://t.co/GGQiPRI2RU

— Nora Biette-Timmons (@biettetimmons) February 17, 2017

Speaking of winsome beasts that hunger after garbage, apparently Scott ‘Cosmo Centerfold’ Brown has given up on finding a state from where he might dogwhistle his way back into the Senate…

Scoff Brown is under consideration for ambassador to New Zealand, reports @JOSreports https://t.co/DWCknHokcG

— Matt Viser (@mviser) February 17, 2017

The Boston Globe reports:

… Brown, who was previously considered for the veterans affairs Cabinet post, has told associates that he believes he will get the nod for Wellington, one of the people familiar with the discussions told the Globe.

The White House declined to comment Friday, and Brown did not respond to several requests for comment…

After losing the 2012 Massachusetts Senate race to Democrat Elizabeth Warren, Brown moved to New Hampshire and unsuccessfully challenged Democratic US Senator Jeanne Shaheen two years later.

During the presidential primary, Brown threw “no-BS backyard barbecues” for GOP contenders, fashioning for himself a role as something of a power broker. He hosted Trump at a Financial District fund-raiser in June, after Trump had all but secured the nomination.

Brown endorsed Trump at a pivotal juncture in the 2016 GOP presidential primaries, after Trump had lost the Iowa caucuses to Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and just before the New Hampshire primary…

In a 2015 interview with GQ about his passion for cycling, Brown said, “I’ve always wanted to go to New Zealand or Scotland or Wales and just ride 100 miles, hit a pub, drink, eat, sleep, do some exploring, and then get up, ride another 100 miles, do that for a couple weeks.”

Hard cheese, New Zealanders, but us Massholes would be just as glad to wave ‘Scoff’ and his bicycle off to your side of the globe. If he gets on your nerves, tell him it’s considered a feat of strength to wrestle rams into submission. Or that Maori find it hilarious when white people make fun of the haka, just like Native Americans enjoy ‘Pocahontas’ jokes.

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  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    that raccoon is funny.
    thank goodness I am not the person who has to get him off

  2. 2.

    Frankensteinbeck

    February 18, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    after Trump had lost the Iowa caucuses to Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and just before the New Hampshire primary

    Oh, ho. Brown is not a moron. He saw that Trump performed almost as well as his poll numbers said, and thus had the primary in the bag.

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    Glad there’s a new thread.

    Every time I think I’ve reached my limit of outrage at Republicans, they pull something like this.

    https://gutierrez.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/guti-rrez-being-asked-leave-ice-meeting-capitol-speaker-ryan-and

    (For some reason recently, I’m having trouble … not linking, the link thingy works fine, but I can’t always highlight the comment text I want to attach to the link. Sorry, but that’s why some of my recent links have been ugly and naked.)

    Rep Luis Gutiérrez (D IL-4) was kicked out of a meeting with ICE officials — a meeting he had requested. He is not happy.

  4. 4.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    Hey, I know Nora Biette-Timmons! Used to work with her father.

    (Edited to correct something.)

  5. 5.

    different-church-lady

    February 18, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    Wonkette is right: Trump at rally today:

    “I’m here because I want to be among my friends.

    Poor libble boy, nobody in the big mean city likes him. Weak.

    #FAKE PRESIDENT

  6. 6.

    aarrgghh

    February 18, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    theme of the day: drumpf just wanted to be president — but ended up in the white house.

  7. 7.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    Scoff Brown is under consideration for ambassador to New Zealand

    That’s about as far away from Massachusetts as we can get Cosmo-boy without launching him into space, right? All to the good. New Zealand’s loss is our gain.

  8. 8.

    TheMightyTrowel

    February 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    Hi from Dubai airport! Sitting out another long layover with Moet in the emirates lounge (life = hard) but avoiding the tvs which are all tuned to CNN blasting trump. FML it’s 3am local time – isn’t there something more soothing to put on for the travellers?

    (PS: Lisbon is amazing this time of year 18-20 centigr, sunshine, few(er) tourists – very good port drinking, sardine eating weather… that said, very happy to be headed home now. I miss my cats!)

  9. 9.

    aarrgghh

    February 18, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    “I’m here because I want to be among my groupies.”

    all fixed.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Several other Members were excluded from the meeting with the ICE official, including Reps. Nanette Barragán (D-CA), Tony Cárdenas (D-CA), Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO), Lou Correa (D-CA), Ruben Kihuen (D-NV), Grace Napolitano (D-CA), Norma Torres (D-CA), and Juan Vargas (D-CA).

    A bunch of those names seem to have something in common.

  11. 11.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 6:10 pm

    Watching the Nuremberg rally. Turns out Jefferson hated the press, so Trump = Founding Father.

    (And, if he keeps this up he’s going to get a journalist killed. But whatever…)

    And his opponent (Lyin’ what’s her name) is still horrible

    And he whipped Boeing into submission.

    And now there’s a shill speaking;

    kill me now.

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    A bunch of those names seem to have something in common.

    Funniest damn thing, isn’t it?

  13. 13.

    Mike J

    February 18, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    @efgoldman:

    That’s about as far away from Massachusetts as we can get Cosmo-boy without launching him into space, right?

    On the space station there would be times when he was only 100 miles away. NZ is much further.

  14. 14.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    @efgoldman: Not quite. Perth, Australia is the closest point on land to the antipode to Boston. So Australian ambassador would be farther ambassadorship. Treading water in the south indian ocean would be the farthest actual place, which I’m good with too.

  15. 15.

    opiejeanne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    How big is this rally? Bigger than the number of protesters?

  16. 16.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    @efgoldman: The Winter Over Station in Antarctica is, I think, farther.

  17. 17.

    sigaba

    February 18, 2017 at 6:15 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Dumb procedural question? Why don’t the CHC just say they aren’t going anywhere, if you want me out you’ll have to call the cops.

  18. 18.

    Hal

    February 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Scoff Brown is under consideration for ambassador to New Zealand, reports

    Where’s a Mount Doom when you need one.

  19. 19.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @TheMightyTrowel: They routed you from Lisbon through Dubai to Dublin? That is not the most direct route.

  20. 20.

    J R in WV

    February 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Kicking congressional representatives out of a government meeting has to be contempt of congress, right? They certainly are contemptuous aren’t they !!!

    ICE seems to be arrogant overbearing contemptuous assholes from top to bottom!!! I guess that’s what makes Trump happier. Assholes all the way up and down, right?

  21. 21.

    Annamal

    February 18, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    Technically New Zealand (or Samoa since it’s a joint posting) can refuse the putz
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89560459/its-an-insult-backlash-against-trumps-pick-for-diplomatic-post-to-new-zealand

    I doubt our Prime Minister will refuse, but it is certainly not going to be a popular appointment, and yes Scott Brown will have to participate in a great many Māori ceremonies, and if he screws up it’s going to be big news.

    P.s. the word Māori is its own plural.

  22. 22.

    opiejeanne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I think she’s going home to Australia.

  23. 23.

    sigaba

    February 18, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    In other news: Trumps Navy Secretary nominee may drop out

  24. 24.

    tobie

    February 18, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @Calming Influence: You’re a brave soul! Thanks for watching so we don’t have to. The whole thing sounds horrifying.

  25. 25.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @sigaba:

    Why don’t the CHC just say they aren’t going anywhere, if you want me out you’ll have to call the cops.

    I have no idea, but I see Adam is here and he seems to know about that stuff.

  26. 26.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    He’s actually trying to relitigate his immigration EO judicial loss at the rally.

  27. 27.

    sigaba

    February 18, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I assume Ryan can punish them apart from merely getting them arrested.

  28. 28.

    Lapassionara

    February 18, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    @Calming Influence: has anyone started the “seig heil” salute yet?

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I think you may be conflating TheMightyTrowel, who lives in Oz, with Helen in Eire, who lives in Dublin.

  30. 30.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Drain the swamp. Lol.

  31. 31.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    @Mike J:

    On the space station there would be times when he was only 100 miles away.

    Who said anything about the space station?

  32. 32.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    @sigaba: Next time they just might. The cops in this case would be the House Sergeant at Arms, since it’s a procedural not a legal violation (if it even is a procedural violation). Not sure at what point it would turn over to the Capitol police.

  33. 33.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    February 18, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    Shit. One of my good friends works for the State Department in Wellington. He’ll be thrilled to hear this.

  34. 34.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 18, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @khead: Is he bragging about the size of his EC victory?

  35. 35.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @sigaba:

    I assume Ryan can punish them apart from merely getting them arrested.

    Oh, sure. I suppose if he wanted to he could, I dunno, strip them of committee assignments or take away office space/telephones/staff from the CHC or simply continue with these petty humiliations.

  36. 36.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @opiejeanne: The sizes of the rally crowd and the protest crowd are completely flexible depending on your inner dialog. One or the other may not even exist.

    And, watching the Fuerer, I can’t believe I’ve survived the last 8 years of pure Hell.

    Now they’re chanting “drain the swamp!”

    [reaches for gas can and lighter…]

  37. 37.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    @efgoldman: Nice. I would suggest a geosynchronous orbit above 71 deg west. That way you could look straight up once per day and see him.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @? Martin:

    Treading water in the south indian ocean would be the farthest actual place, which I’m good with too.

    He might find the missing Malaysian airliner, though, and that would get him a permanent gig on Don Lemon’s show. CNN much more lucrative than some Ambassadorship.

  39. 39.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Got in a little late so I might have missed it – but not that I have seen. It’s basically a campaign rally from late October. A lot of “we are gonna”….. without realizing that he actually has to do it now because he won and it’s February. I expect he will be giving the same speech for the next 4 years.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @opiejeanne: @SiubhanDuinne: Yep, my bad. I read The Mighty Trowel and in my head it turned into HeleninEire. All you commenters look alike…//

  41. 41.

    Anne Laurie

    February 18, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @Annamal:

    P.s. the word Māori is its own plural.

    Fixed, thanks!

  42. 42.

    amygdala

    February 18, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    Oh, man… Wellington, a beautiful and arty city, does not deserve the likes of Scotty.

  43. 43.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    A swim to Antarctica and back is an initiation rite all newcomers to NZ must experience. It isn’t as hard as it looks and its bracing.

  44. 44.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    If someone could tint that raccoon orange and whiten up his burglar’s mask, we might have a meme going.

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: My understanding from the reporting is that the exclusions were made at the request/order of Speaker Ryan who was hosting the meeting. It may be that the ICE Director asked him to exclude certain folks, but the only reporting I’ve seen indicate that it was Speaker Ryan’s staff that informed the Congressional Hispanic Caucus members that they couldn’t come in, or those in had to leave. One of his spokespeople indicated that they had a small space and had to limit the numbers of those who could be in the room. My guess is that was CYA.

  46. 46.

    hilts

    February 18, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    This raccoon is having a rough morning

    That’s nothing compared to the rough time the raccoon perched atop Trump’s head is having these days.

  47. 47.

    TheMightyTrowel

    February 18, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @? Martin: don’t you bloody dare send Scott Brown to Australia. As a Masshole abroad, I would very much not like to share a state with him again.

  48. 48.

    Another Scott

    February 18, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    @sigaba:

    The sources said Bilden, a former Army Reserve military officer with little naval experience, has drawn resistance to his lack of familiarity with Navy issues

    In Trump’s America, who better to oversee the Navy than someone who knows nothing about the Navy? Just like DeVos was perfect for Education, and Tillerson for State, and Perry for Energy, and Trump for POTUS, amirite?!?

    and has encountered difficulty separating himself from his financial interests.

    What do you mean, “difficulty”? Conflicts of interest are impossible in Trump’s America – he told us that himself.

    What’s the problem here?!!?

    (sigh…)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  49. 49.

    TheMightyTrowel

    February 18, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: :-P

  50. 50.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    I’m old enough to remember when candidates stopped giving campaign speeches after the election.

  51. 51.

    opiejeanne

    February 18, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Ha! Yeah, we do

    I read online that the crowd inside the rally is about 8-9 k. Maybe 500 protesters outside. Are there photos of either yet, or numbers from an unbiased source ?

  52. 52.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: BS CYA. If Gutiérrez requested the meeting, he was kicked out of the too small room because of the crowd? And If Gutiérrez requested the meeting, he didn’t tell anyone other House members would be at the meeting too?

    Ryan is lying fraudulent scum. I hope fact that he is rather dim lying fraudulent scum will make a difference in how effective he is.
    Apparently he is too dim or inept or inattentive to figure out how to sell the mystery meat border adjustment tax to his own grifter caucus. And they just want to know what the take will be and who gets how much.

    Maybe Ryan is a phlegmatic Frump with soulful eyes and a quiet earnest demeanor?

  53. 53.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @tobie:

    You’re a brave soul! Thanks for watching so we don’t have to. The whole thing sounds horrifying.

    I’m already a very damaged human being, so I had less to lose. But you fuckers owe me.

    Closes with “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”. I dont understand why Jagger hasn’t taken out a hit on him yet.

  54. 54.

    Pogonip

    February 18, 2017 at 6:41 pm

    @rikyrah: He’ll be happy to get off on his own once the truck stops.

    A reiteration of safety advice for city folk: with the exception of squirrels, any wild animal letting you get anywhere near him more likely than not has rabies. Keep your distance from wild animals.

  55. 55.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 18, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    Reading about the cost to send the Secret Service along with Uday and Qusay and trying to remember if the Secret Service provided protection to the grown children of Reagan, Carter, and George H. W. Bush. I think not? Maybe the rules on who’s covered have changed?

  56. 56.

    randy khan

    February 18, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Well, that pretty much confirms that they don’t care about the Hispanic vote. Not that it’s much of a surprise.

  57. 57.

    hovercraft

    February 18, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    New Zealand is such a quiet little country that minds it’s own business, what has it done to deserve the sudden influx of right wing nut jobs, first you have Peter Youth Vampire Theil and his fellow billionaires, and now the shitgibbon wants to foist Mr, Cosmo on them. They are supposed to be our friends.

  58. 58.

    scav

    February 18, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    American Disposal Services. Look at that flag logo and think combover in a high breeze.

    poor little raccoon.

  59. 59.

    lollipopguild

    February 18, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I really have to wonder if there is one brain cell in ryan and co. heads. Yes it makes them feel good and powerful to do this but people are paying attention to this kind of Sh#t. When the back blast burns them who are they gonna blame, Obama?

  60. 60.

    Pogonip

    February 18, 2017 at 6:45 pm

    @jl: How far (in miles) is the swim?

  61. 61.

    Royston Vasey

    February 18, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    Bugger. As they say in Zealandia.

    RV in NZ

  62. 62.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @lollipopguild: Obama! That’s the ticket!

  63. 63.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @Another Scott:

    In Trump’s America, who better to oversee the Navy than someone who knows nothing about the Navy?

    Chuchill was an army guy put in charge of a navy.

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @jl: I’m just telling you what I read. I haven’t even been in DC since the end of October when I had a meeting in NoVA. And I don’t think I’ve been in the Capitol since the mid 80s when I was in high school.

  65. 65.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    @Pogonip: ” How far (in miles) is the swim? ” Far enough to make it fun for Scotty.

    I’ll look it up.

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: They have.

  67. 67.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks. But, you should know by now that you don’t have to respond to general venting in the comments. Now, let me complain about my damn lumbago…and the crap blue plate special I had last night…and them damn kids these days…

  68. 68.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    @lollipopguild: Every time they’re in the majority they do stupid stuff like this. In the 00s they would reschedule the rooms for committee meetings and not notify the Democrats, so when the Democrats would show up, they’d find a locked room. When Democratic caucus members would schedule rooms for meetings, the GOP would instruct the Custodian of the Capitol to cut the power to the rooms so the Democrats would have to meet in the dark.

  69. 69.

    MoxieM

    February 18, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    A former friend of mine played some kind of sportsball with Scott Brown in Law School. She reported that (somewhat obviously), he was not the sharpest chisel in the toolbox. Totally a tool, though.

  70. 70.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yep. From what I can gather it seems the President’s main requirement is having a Service secretary that can negotiate hard to get acquisitions and logistics costs down. Unfortunately, that’s not really how the acquisitions’ and logistics’ processes work.

  71. 71.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    @jl: Don’t make me confuse you with some other commenter.

  72. 72.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    @Pogonip: 2400 to 2500 km, depending on how you want to define where Antarctica starts.
    I hear Scotty’s one of those beefcake chick magnet sexy hot dude, physical hygiene nuts, body builder, ripped, swole, buffed, chiseled and shredded. Almost like Silverman. He could do it twice before breakfast.

  73. 73.

    Another Scott

    February 18, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Was that a good thing?

    Wikiville:

    While serving in this position, he put strong emphasis on modernisation and was also in favour of using aeroplanes in combat.

    OK, oil for coal was a good thing (technology wise, but introduced other geopolitical issues), but air was an Army thing over here, so that’s not terribly surprising.

    Churchill was involved with the development of the tank, which was financed from the Navy budget.[98] In February 1915 he appointed the Landships Committee, which oversaw the design and production of the first British tanks.[98] However, he was also one of the political and military engineers of the disastrous Gallipoli landings in the Dardanelles.

    The Navy doesn’t have much need for tanks. And his grand strategizing seemed to be rather disastrous in those days – when he was running the Royal Navy.

    Not a glowing recommendation for Army people to run the Navy, if you ask me. ;-p

    Especially these days…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  74. 74.

    Millard Filmore

    February 18, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    Since this is an open thread, here is some Trump news that is not about his rally. The blackmail material that the Russians have on Trump has to do with mob money.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/18/trump-lie-exposed-proof-indebted-russian-mobsters.html

    “Horton’s evaluation of this material, in coordination with the declassified DNI report, is that despite Trump’s persistent lies that he has no connections, business or otherwise, with the Russians, he did in fact actively work with and more importantly; he worked for the Russian interests in a massive money-laundering scheme.”

  75. 75.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 6:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I’m just telling you what I read.

    Wait, that sounds familiar…

    The biggest electoral college victory since Ronald Reagan…

    J’accuse!

  76. 76.

    raven

    February 18, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Dawgs makin a run at Big Blue without their best player!

  77. 77.

    sukabi

    February 18, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    @Calming Influence: what no “It’s the End of the world as we know it”…like he did at the convention?

  78. 78.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    A front pager needs to post the video of “the guy Trump brought on stage” being interviewed on CNN.

  79. 79.

    different-church-lady

    February 18, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Is Churchill available?

  80. 80.

    Millard Filmore

    February 18, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @hovercraft: since New Zealand has come up, it might be its own continent.

    http://www.joemygod.com/2017/02/18/enter-new-continent-zealandia/

  81. 81.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @? Martin:

    That way you could look straight up once per day and see him.

    Why in FSM’s name would i want to?

  82. 82.

    Baud

    February 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @khead:

    Was it like that Bruce Springsteen/Courtney Cox video?

  83. 83.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @efgoldman: Confirmation that he’s not coming back.

  84. 84.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 7:09 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    ” Is Churchill available? ”

    Save Churchiill for spot in the NSC. He won’t need any staff.

  85. 85.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @khead:

    I’m old enough to remember when candidates stopped giving campaign speeches after the election

    So is my granddaughter. She three and a half.

  86. 86.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    phuck outta here. is there a President since 1900 where this has happened?

    NYT Politics Verified account
    ‏@nytpolitics

    Reluctant First Lady? Melania Trump Wouldn’t Be the First to Claim That Title

  87. 87.

    scav

    February 18, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: I’m rather intrigued by the rash of reporting of how much protecting the various Trump dynasty costs, especially on all the business-fluffing trips. Even the ChiTrib has had them: near the top of the website no less (!). NYT has one now about the economic impact of the airspace restrictions, especially rough now as they now involve NYC, DC and all the flits to Mar-a-Lago.

    Another detail I love at the bottom (about the airspace at Lantana Airport) (NYT link)

    President Trump is unlikely to intervene. For more than two decades he repeatedly sued Palm Beach County over air traffic noise, at one point accusing the local airports director of “intentional battery” by maliciously directing jets to fly over Mar-a-Lago. Lawyers for the county responded that they couldn’t help it that the estate is just off the end of the airport’s main east-west runway.

    dissonance. rub their noses in it every day.

  88. 88.

    khead

    February 18, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Baud:

    Dude was damn sure in the dark. Just not dancing.

  89. 89.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @? Martin:

    ” Treading water in the south indian ocean would be the farthest actual place, which I’m good with too. ”

    We don’t have ambassadors for the oceans? What about protecting the sea lanes.
    Need to get Frump to put some top people on that. Brown is perfect for the Indian Ocean.

  90. 90.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Pogonip:

    any wild animal letting you get anywhere near him more likely than not has rabies.

    I once had a rabid racoon stand in the middle of the road and attack my oncoming pickup truck – in the middle of the day.

  91. 91.

    sigaba

    February 18, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Another Scott: I don’t know, compared to an Arabian horse breeder he’s an improvement.

  92. 92.

    jl

    February 18, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @efgoldman: Recently? Was it an obese orange raccoon with a white eye band? You could have wandered too close to a Frump campaign event.

  93. 93.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @raven: Go dawgs.

  94. 94.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    @lollipopguild:

    people are paying attention to this kind of Sh#t

    Well, we politically informed people are. We’re an infinitesimal part of the population. Rememebr all those low information voters?

  95. 95.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    Matt Purdy
    ‏@mattbpurdy

    The Mar-a-Lago member list revealed: Donors, lobbyists, future ambassadors – and paying Trump customers.

    David Burbach
    ‏@dburbach

    David Burbach Retweeted Matt Purdy

    If New York Times can get member list, in all likelihood so can foreign intelligence agencies. Members become prime targets. @20committee

  96. 96.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 18, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    @efgoldman: You could moon him.

  97. 97.

    raven

    February 18, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    @Calming Influence: dbl T

  98. 98.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 18, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @rikyrah: The New York Times is garbage.

  99. 99.

    Baud

    February 18, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: This.

  100. 100.

    sukabi

    February 18, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Millard Filmore: I’d like to say I’m shocked, but this should have been one of the more researched and publicized stories what the ?? announced his candidacy…

    It’s not like it would have taken much research as it was widely known he’d had mob dealings as part of his real estat. / construction dealings.

    MAJOR failure of news and political establishments.

  101. 101.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    Hercules Mulligan @johnvmoore

    So @BetsyDeVosED decided to come for the teachers at the 1st public school so they clapped back. Bravo @JATrojans! Bravo!

  102. 102.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    Boney Hurdle @eclecticbrotha

    Do not be alarmed or fooled by Mike Pence sounding reasonable in speeches. Its all a front. Trump and the GOP still intend to destroy you.

  103. 103.

    scav

    February 18, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    @rikyrah: That’s one very exclusive membership for a private reality-show about the presidency. The National Security Post parade, talent-show and judging is on-deck this weekend for their viewing pleasure. The Ratings!

  104. 104.

    Mike J

    February 18, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @rikyrah:

    phuck outta here. is there a President since 1900 where this has happened?

    None ever at any time that flat out refused to move to the White House. Even the women they spoke about in the article who did not like being first lady performed the duties.

  105. 105.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 18, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Baud: I’d use it for fishwrap, but I’m afraid of what it’d do to the fish.

  106. 106.

    germy

    February 18, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @sukabi:
    ?? = Shitgibbon.

  107. 107.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:27 pm

    Trump Proposes Checking Chinese Visitors

    Source: Political Wire

    February 18, 2017By Taegan Goddard

    Politico: “The Trump administration is moving to expand social media checks to cover Chinese citizens traveling to the U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials are proposing to ask Chinese visitors to disclose their social media ‘handles’ or other identifiers on common social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook. The question would be asked online as part of an electronic system Chinese holders of long-term U.S. business and visitor visas use to advise of upcoming travel.”

    “Answering the question would be ‘optional,’ CBP said in a notice set for publication Tuesday in the Federal Register. Those who don’t wish to answer will have their travel requests processed ‘without a negative interpretation or inference,’ the notice said.”

  108. 108.

    germy

    February 18, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    old tweet:

    Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 24 Jul 2014
    I say we cannot continue to let Obama fly around on Air Force 1, at a cost of millions of dollars a day, for the purpose of politics & play!

  109. 109.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @Another Scott: I was just pointing out that it was not unprecedented. I wasn’t advocating in ether direction.

    @different-church-lady: I rather doubt it, but zombie Churchill could well be among the brightest people in the Trump administration.

  110. 110.

    Enzymer

    February 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: @Another Scott: Yup,
    Before his stint in the admiralty he was a hot up&comer. Afterwards, the stink kept him out of government, till the Brits were desperate in WWII

  111. 111.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @rikyrah: The staff is likely riddled with agents. From not just Russia, but from various NATO countries who fear for their own national security as long as Donald is in power…because he’ll sell them out to Vlad in a heartbeat.

  112. 112.

    Calming Influence

    February 18, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I once had a rabid racoon stand in the middle of the road and attack my oncoming pickup truck – in the middle of the day

    The brown acid, right? Been there…

  113. 113.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    And, off to the Spook fold he goes

    White House dismisses NSC aide after harsh criticism of Trump
    Official complained about the president at a closed-door think tank gathering.
    02/18/17 02:21 PM EST

    The White House abruptly dismissed a senior National Security Council aide on Friday after receiving reports that he had publicly laced into the president and his senior aides, including son-in-law Jared Kushner and daughter Ivanka Trump at an event hosted by a Washington think tank.

    The aide, Craig Deare, was serving as the NSC’s senior director for Western Hemisphere Affairs. Earlier in the week, at a private, off-the-record roundtable hosted by the Woodrow Wilson Center for a group of about two dozen scholars, Deare harshly criticized the president and his chief strategist Steve Bannon and railed against the dysfunction paralyzing the Trump White House, according to a source familiar with the situation.

    He complained in particular that senior national security aides do not have access to the president — and gave a detailed and embarrassing readout of Trump’s call with Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto.

  114. 114.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    DeVos criticized teachers at D.C. school she visited — and they are not having it
    February 18 at 1:15 PM

    Newly minted Education Secretary Betsy DeVos had a hard time getting inside the District’s Jefferson Middle School Academy last week when protesters briefly blocked her from entering. But at the end of her visit — her first to a public school since taking office — she stood on Jefferson’s front steps and pronounced it “awesome.”
    A few days later, she seemed less enamored. The teachers at Jefferson were sincere, genuine and dedicated, she said, they seemed to be in “receive mode.”

    “They’re waiting to be told what they have to do, and that’s not going to bring success to an individual child,” DeVos told a columnist for the conservative online publication Townhall. “You have to have teachers who are empowered to facilitate great teaching.”

    DeVos, who has no professional experience in public education, is an avowed proponent of voucher schools, charter schools, online schools and other alternatives to traditional public schools. Teachers across the country have been galled by what they see as her lack of faith in — and understanding of — the public schools that educate nearly nine in 10 of the nation’s children.

    Jefferson educators found her comments about their work hard to take: On Friday evening, the school responded to DeVos via its Twitter account, taking exception to the education secretary’s characterization of Jefferson teachers.
    “We’re about to take her to school,” the first of 11 rapid-fire tweets said.

  115. 115.

    Baud

    February 18, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Poor fish deserve better.

  116. 116.

    tobie

    February 18, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Calming Influence: Get yourself a drink. You’ve earned it.

  117. 117.

    hovercraft

    February 18, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @Calming Influence:

    J’accuse!

    Are you trying to say that @Adam is Twitler?
    I’m sorry to break it to you that he cannot be, he is way too knowledgeable and well informed to be him or even affiliated with him, he also writes complete sentences, and employs logic.

  118. 118.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 7:35 pm

    @rikyrah: So,

    1) Facebook and Twitter are blocked in China. Chinese citizens aren’t going to reveal handles for blocked services.
    2) We’d be asking for social media handles for services that are supported in China, and therefore are being monitored by the Chinese government. What exactly do we expect to learn from that?

  119. 119.

    sukabi

    February 18, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @germy: yes?

  120. 120.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 18, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @hilts: Lol! Good one.

  121. 121.

    Baud

    February 18, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    @hovercraft: It’s the perfect disguise.

  122. 122.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    Avi Bueno@JasperAvi

    Can we differentiate between #leaker & #whistleblower please? The people coming forward now are *not* simply disseminating sensitive info
    1/

    They’re acting as whistleblowers, working to inform the public of illegal, unsavory, or otherwise seriously dangerous activity/happenings
    2/

    within our government. They’re trying to ensure that *someone* can do *something* with this info, seeing as how the Legislature won’t. It
    3/

    is imperative that we protect those who are releasing information that is important to maintain public safety & secure the continuity of
    4/

    our Republic. Illegal activity in government, especially behaviors aimed at aiding foreign powers at our detriment *needs* to be passed
    5/

    along, so that the American public can protest the actions of a faux authoritarian who has very clearly shunned the oath he took on Jan. 20.

  123. 123.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 18, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @? Martin: Your mistake is asking cogent questions of authoritarian asswipes. They do not have answers for them. They can’t.

  124. 124.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 18, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    @germy: Because President Obama was Democratic and Black, I guess. Trump has taken several vacations and he hasn’t even been President for one month.

  125. 125.

    Patricia Kayden

    February 18, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @rikyrah: And whistleblowers are protected by law. I suppose Trump will argue that the info they’re releasing is classified but they’re still doing a great service for the American people.

  126. 126.

    MobiusKlein

    February 18, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @Pogonip: Tell that to the Raccoons, Skunks, and Coyote wandering around San Francisco.
    Fuckers are worse than door to door amway sales folks

  127. 127.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    AM Joy w/Joy Reid
    ✔
    @amjoyshow

    .@rosieperezbklyn: DACA kids are terrified… You better wake up … There’s gonna be a reckoning #AMJoy
    10:20 AM – 18 Feb 2017

  128. 128.

    Taylor

    February 18, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Another Scott:

    However, he was also one of the political and military engineers of the disastrous Gallipoli landings in the Dardanelles.

    In fairness, Churchill was haunted by this disaster, and showed more caution with the invasion of Europe in 1944.

  129. 129.

    Pogonip

    February 18, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @MobiusKlein: Now that’s REALLY bad!

  130. 130.

    Pogonip

    February 18, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @jl: how much distance is that in miles?

  131. 131.

    raven

    February 18, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    @Calming Influence: nail biter

  132. 132.

    Lapassionara

    February 18, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    @raven: what a game! But is that Dick Vitale?

  133. 133.

    raven

    February 18, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Lapassionara: yes, the last Ga-KY game was Mooseburgers last game.

  134. 134.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 18, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Taylor: “Tough old gut”.

    He never gave up on the fantasy of a “soft underbelly”.

  135. 135.

    Another Scott

    February 18, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    @? Martin: Also too, China and Russia and others would like nothing better than to point to a USA policy to say that American visitors have to give up their social passwords and all the rest before entering the country. “It’s a reasonable and symmetric policy, just like the one you Americans have…” :-/

    Trump’s minions don’t think 10 seconds ahead in putting these policy proposals together.

    They’re going to get (even more) people killed as they trash everything we’ve built as a country the last 2 centuries…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  136. 136.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    Stuart Rothenberg @StuPolitics

    Crowd surprisingly quiet when the president talked about replacing Obamacare.
    5:27 PM – 18 Feb 2017

  137. 137.

    germy

    February 18, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    Maulik Pancholy is one of 10 members of the President’s Advisory Commission on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders to resign out of opposition to Donald Trump and his policies. The actor, best known as Jack Donaghey’s quirky assistant Jonathan on 30 Rock, certainly knows his way around a bad boss, but ultimately found working with the current POTUS untenable. The resigning members explained their decision to quit in a joint letter: “We can no longer serve a President whose policies aim to create outcomes that are diametrically opposed to our principles, goals, and charge … Since your Inauguration, the Executive Orders you have issued and policies you have promulgated have greatly impeded the ability of the federal government to serve all who live here.” Pancholy was placed on the commission by Barack Obama and his appointment was to go through September.

  138. 138.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    February 18, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Plain old dead Churchill would be among the brightest people in the Trump administration.

  139. 139.

    greennotGreen

    February 18, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    “white people make fun of the haka”

    What kind of fools make fun of the haka? Can you imagine being faced by Maori warriors when you had weapons no better than theirs and seeing those faces and those muscles? Hell, I’m surprised rugby players don’t just slink back to the lockers when the All Blacks start up.

  140. 140.

    JMG

    February 18, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    I’m trying to imagine the interview process for Trump administration ambassador to New Zealand.
    T: “So have you seen the Lord of the Rings trilogy”
    Scott: All but “The Two Towers.”
    T: “You’re hired! But cut those toenails!”

  141. 141.

    ? Martin

    February 18, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @rikyrah:

    .@rosieperezbklyn: DACA kids are terrified… You better wake up … There’s gonna be a reckoning #AMJoy
    10:20 AM – 18 Feb 2017

    Yep. We have half a million DACA kids in California. I personally know over 100. They are indeed terrified. We’re protecting them as best we can.

  142. 142.

    Ruckus

    February 18, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @Pogonip:
    It isn’t even how far the swim is. It’s the currents and the cold. I’ve stood at the very south end of NZ and watched the current. Thinking one would be lucky to survive the first mile I am.
    But on that bright and cheery note, Snotty should try it if he gets appointed.

  143. 143.

    Lapassionara

    February 18, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @raven: wow!

  144. 144.

    Suffragete City elftx

    February 18, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    @Calming Influence:

    Closes with “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”.

    So he was in his early 20’s when this song came out (1969). The ahole has so many tells it makes me wonder what was going on in his life then. Not that I care ugh!

  145. 145.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 18, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Fuck that fat bastard.

  146. 146.

    zhena gogolia

    February 18, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    and LBJ too?

  147. 147.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 18, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Why not, raven would approve.

  148. 148.

    Suzanne

    February 18, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @rikyrah: Mr. Suzanne is a public educator (he is a SLP, not a teacher), and he has said that he has never seen his teacher colleagues so unbelievably pissed off as they have been over the DeVos appointment. This may bring a big backlash. Let’s hope.

  149. 149.

    Suzanne

    February 18, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    Comment eated? Oi.

  150. 150.

    raven

    February 18, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: truth

  151. 151.

    Baud

    February 18, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    @raven: I got you covered in an earlier thread.

  152. 152.

    lgerard

    February 18, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    The staff is likely riddled with agents

    They hire 100’s of H -2 workers from Romania

    that can’t be good

  153. 153.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    #FreeBresha @prisonculture

    Congress begins its recess on 2/18 until 2/24. They’ll be back in their districts. Make a point of going to visit their offices.
    6:05 AM – 9 Feb 2017

  154. 154.

    Suffragete City elftx

    February 18, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @Millard Filmore:

    “Horton’s evaluation of this material, in coordination with the declassified DNI report, is that despite Trump’s persistent lies that he has no connections, business or otherwise, with the Russians, he did in fact actively work with and more importantly; he worked for the Russian interests in a massive money-laundering scheme.”

    Scott Dworkin and Adam Khan have been relentless on the twitter machine about stuff like this.

  155. 155.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 18, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @lgerard: Also, a lot of J visa holders tend to be Ruski.

  156. 156.

    rikyrah

    February 18, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    Gabriel Sherman Verified account
    ‏@gabrielsherman

    Politico reports Kushner is a “shadow Secretary of State” running his own policy without consulting Tillerson

  157. 157.

    The Lodger

    February 18, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    @jl: An ocean is a lot of responsibility for Li’l Scotty. Maybe he can handle a bight. Or bite a handle.

  158. 158.

    Spanky

    February 18, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @Suffragete City elftx: “I went down to the demonstration, to get my fair share of abuse”.

    More relevant to us resistors than him, though. And might I just say I never thought it would again be relevant for me.

  159. 159.

    FlyingToaster (Tablet)

    February 18, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Our flight to sunny Flah-ri-dah was delayed two hours; we showed up two hours on and the incoming plane is 12 minutes out. FTW.

    JetBlue supposedly has wifi, so I’ll probably see y’all online again in the next thread.

  160. 160.

    amk

    February 18, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    Is that rusted out truck symbolic of sotu?

  161. 161.

    Jonothan

    February 18, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    A swim to Antarctica and back is an initiation rite all newcomers to NZ must experience. It isn’t as hard as it looks and its bracing.

    And there’d be a huge crowd to see him off.

  162. 162.

    Nelle

    February 18, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Mt Doom is just across the lake from me down here in Taupo, NZ. Most of the Kiwis I talk to are better informed about US politics than Americans. And Scott Brown is seen as an insult. No need to sully Mt Doom with the likes of him.

  163. 163.

    Mel

    February 18, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @Calming Influence: Jefferson did complain a lot sbout newspapers, but it wasn’t in the way thatTrump would like it to have been. Jefferson’s biggest gripes seem to have been with the fact that media was far too often used as a propaganda tool to influence the undereducated and /or the gullible, and that people who formed their opinions based solely on media spin and not on independent fact confirmation and applying critical thinking to what they read could be quickly and easily influenced to believe falsehoods. In other words, Jefferson would have hated Fox News (and almost all of the “but, her emails!!!” and related tripe). But he also clearly understood that fact-finding investigative journalism is vital for bringing problems to light and keeping the powers that be accountable. He stated that a free press is essential to the healthy functioning of a free society.

    I wonder what he thought about Franklin’s almanac? For a little fun colonial media catfight fun, google Ben Franklin and Daniel Leeds and Titan Leeds almanac war and the Jersey Devil. Franklin was a piece of work! Daniel Leeds is an ancestor, so the family joke is that if one’s back is itching, it’s just the Jersey Devil wings nubs getting ready to sprout…

  164. 164.

    Suzanne

    February 18, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    @? Martin: Mr. Suzanne is a bilingual SLP in a Title 1 school. He estimates that around half of his caseload each year are Dreamers, and much of the other half are first-generation Americans with undocumented parents. Many of them have severe/significant learning, developmental, and physical disabilities. The deportation of Guadalupe Garcia de Rayos has been really upsetting to us, as she and her family lived in the neighborhood/area of town in which I lived for many years, and I believe her children attend the high school that I attended (though I don’t know the family personally). It is just very close to home. Literally. We are worried about his students and their families, who are our neighbors and friends. This sucks.

    He has said that he has never seen his teacher colleagues so pissed off and active as they have been over DeVos. I think a teacher backlash is coming.

  165. 165.

    SFAW

    February 18, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I once had a rabid racoon stand in the middle of the road and attack my oncoming pickup truck – in the middle of the day.

    Were you close enough to hear him speak? Did he sound like Bradley Cooper? If so, don’t fuck with him.

  166. 166.

    cynthia ackerman

    February 18, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    @scav:

    Is that haiku?

  167. 167.

    Quinerly

    February 18, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    Well, I had a great day on this wonderful road trip. Had the pleasure of meeting commentator dexwood and his lovely bride here in Albuquerque for beers and a great hang at La Cumbre Brewing. I’m still smiling! What a day!

  168. 168.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:21 pm

    @Calming Influence:

    The brown acid, right? Been there…

    I didn’t stop to ask it what it had taken.

  169. 169.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @hovercraft:

    he is way too knowledgeable and well informed

    Also way too Jewish.

  170. 170.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @efgoldman: Chicken.

  171. 171.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    @different-church-lady: He’s on a speaking tour with Frederick Douglas.

  172. 172.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I would pay to see that.

  173. 173.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:34 pm

    @rikyrah: He’s a friend of mine. He’s not a spook. He’s a retired Army lieutenant colonel with a PhD. His assignment before this was as a Dean at National Defense University at Ft. McNair, which is where I first met him. And hopefully he can go back to that position. I was much more comfortable when I found out he was on the NSC. I’m less comfortable now.

  174. 174.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    @SFAW:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWwCRHF9UU

  175. 175.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 18, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    @efgoldman: I was when I put my shorts on this morning.

  176. 176.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 18, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Just looked at his bio. He seems well-qualified. I hope he lands on his feet.

  177. 177.

    efgoldman

    February 18, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Chicken.

    P-gawwwk

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