Fucking children is still a bridge too far for the alt-right. At least for today:
Milo Yiannopoulos, the incendiary writer and commentator who helped make Breitbart News a leading organ of the “alt-right,” resigned from the news organization Tuesday after a video of him endorsing pedophilia surfaced online over the weekend.
Some background here, with a headline that pretty much sums it up: Milo Yiannopoulos: Girls Are In Danger When Adult Trans Women Use Public Toilets But 13-Year-Old Boys Can Benefit From Giving Head To Adult Males.
Maybe he can get a job at Comet Ping Pong.
Milo’s comeuppance is pure karma.
Someone in the last thread said Milo wasn’t a U.S. citizen. If so, when do deportation proceedings begin?
I think it’s fucking boys that is the red line. No Republicans seem to have had an issue with the story that the shitgibbon walked in on a room of half-naked 14 year old girls.
Yeah, nice to know that even tho’ bashing feminists and transgendered folks is TOTES OK in “alt-right” circles – maybe even de rigueur – that pedophilia is still frowned upon. Whew. I know I’ll sleep easier tonight.
@Baud: OK, FTW *again*, you! You’re just trying to make us sick of winning, aren’t you? : )
BTW, the autopsy of the Russian UN ambassador has been completed, and there will be further investigations…
I found it almost amusing that he first tried to defend himself by saying fucking 13-year olds technically isn’t pedophilia, since they’ve hit puberty. Then he changed it to “when I said ‘boy’, I meant in a gay-bottom-kind-of-way”. Then he added the “You just misunderstood my dry British wit.”
Mike in NC
Milo may yet land a position on Bannon’s staff.
Christ, what an asshole.
I think this too. It’s the Man/BOY love that they won’t go for.
@Mike in NC: I see what you did there…I think. Kind of wishing I didn’t…!
It’s kind of keen to see this little harumph has drawn out our good friend Ezra Klein and also Kurt Eichenwald on where they stand re: conservative movement and anti-PC culture.
He seems to be defending himself by claiming ephebophilia, a desire for pubescent boys, rather than pedophila.
But as someone else joked, an ephebophile is just a pedophile with a thesaurus.
Speaking of assholes:
Trump’s nominees gripe the White House isn’t protecting them
Shaken by Puzder’s torpedoed nomination, other contenders for Senate-confirmed positions say they need more cover from the White House.
……….The concerns are affecting not only some of the highest-profile nominations, including agriculture secretary pick Sonny Perdue, but also candidates for ambassadorships, judicial positions and a range of other posts. The chill that’s settled in even has some people considering bowing out of contention, meaning that Trump’s attempt to quickly fill his government could drag out even further……………….
.While nominees like Perdue don’t have the same sort of baggage that Puzder did, Perdue and others are concerned about his lack of contact with White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and his office, according to two sources close to him. They’re also concerned about what their critics might dig up if their nominations linger in the Senate for weeks amid slow-walking by Democrats.
“It’s been a month since inauguration. Why are some Cabinet nominees waiting on return calls from the White House?”……………
This is one hell of a well oiled machine.
I guess we haven’t reached Peak Cleek then.
Don’t worry, CPAC and Breitbart will be crawling back to him in a month.
These are the same people who are totally okay with a 70 year old man “checking out the goods” backstage at a Miss Universe pageant. Turning a blind eye to pedophilia, or at least equivocating about it in order to get tax cuts passed, is a hop-skip-jump.
Just remember that good young lad Jason Chaffetz, who couldn’t “look his daughter in the eye” before voting for Trump, and now cheerilly covers up his criminality.
Take a bow.
Gin & Tonic
@Calouste: Ukraine is now chairing the UN Security Council (it’s a rotating position) so the Ukrainian Ambassador to the UN will have to deliver a eulogy for the late Russian Ambassador to the UN. Pretty awkward.
@Calouste: Too early to blame the Malaysians again?
It’s a few weeks old — but still awesome: Slog’s take on Milo. It’s short and worth a look if you don’t know what the kerfuffle is all about.
@sigaba: Pretty soon they’ll be pedsplaining that he was just channeling his ancient Greek ancestors.
Apparently stat rape is still ok.
So when Milo suggested 16 years of age as a reasonable age of consent, is he trying to be a little edgy, or do you think he knows that more than half the states in the US already have an age of consent of 16?
@rikyrah: Dead girl/live boy has been the standard for quite some time now.
Publicly advocating for pedophilia is still a bridge too far. Dennis Hastert should show that actual pedophilia isn’t a problem as long as you keep it quiet.
Polanski is the go-to Child Molester for The Reich, but Milo’s not French or Hollywood, so….
Yeah, I dunno that there’s anything they don’t excuse if it’s a Republican in question…
…meanwhile, they not only make up stuff about Democrats, they double down on it when they get busted for lying.
So Milo can publicly say that he attended parties where he saw underage boys with older men, refuses to say who they were and not legally get into trouble? For example, can I say that I saw a murder being committed but I don’t want to say who was the victim or the perpetrator and the cops won’t do anything about it? If possession of child porn is a crime then what is the punishment for being at a party where child rape happens and is not reported. Maybe some activists need to file a police report.
I thought that 16 was only okay for sex with another teen up to 18, and anyone older had to get parents consent or something? Maybe I’m thinking of marriage, I guess one should look into what age a state allows kids to have sex consensually before one considers moving there. I’m not thinking of moving, but it never occurred to me that some states wouldn’t have a problem with an adult sleeping with a sixteen year old. give me a nanny state any day. I know that some states have gone too far with the teens sexting and sending selfies of themselves to each other, that needs to be fixed, kids are dumb and do dumb things, that should not result in them being registered sex offenders.
Trump Meant It When He Said He’d Deport ’em All
by Nancy LeTourneau
February 21, 2017 1:58 PM
During the presidential primaries, Donald Trump distinguished himself from his competitors when he took the position that he’d deport ’em all when it came to undocumented immigrants. Later he mitigated that by suggesting that he’d focus on deporting dangerous criminals.
At this point, all the evidence suggests that he meant what he said initially. With two of his first executive orders, he opened up the possibility of deporting approximately 8 million of the 11 million undocumented immigrants. As Brian Bennett reported:
In case anyone has forgotten what he’s referring to during the final years of the Bush administration, he’s talking about the kinds of ICE raids that were carried out in the factories of towns like Postville, Iowa and Laurel, Mississippi. I remember watching in horror as those raids not only tore families apart, they decimated the small towns in which they took place. But perhaps even more horrifying if you happen to have brown skin or care about someone who does are the reports of what went on inside those factories. Workers were segregated by race or ethnicity and interrogated. In other words, if ICE officers thought you were white, you were allowed to go. Brown skin meant detainment and interrogation to prove your legal status.
“Jesus, Milo! We’re Nazis, not monsters!”
Mike in DC
Milo’s free speech rights were just “suppressed”…by the right. The ironing, it is delicious.
I know it’s wrong and dangerous to leap to conclusions, and the “further investigations” may unearth nothing unusual, but I have to say, the minute I heard the news that he died suddenly, the tips of my whiskers began twitching.
Yeah, that occurred to me too.
Fits with their long record of trying to confuse homosexuality and pedophilia.
Of all the many vile Trumpsters (but, I repeat myself) the one I keep pivoting back to as their ideological poster child is Gorka.
More dangerous than Bannon IMHO.
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@Mike in NC: I see what you did there…
What in Trump’s entire history made you think he’d ever protect anyone but himself, and maybe some of his family? Instead of just using you and disposing of you?
That whooshing sound you hear is a bunch of right-wingers exhaling in relief that they no longer have to support and defend “that filthy sodomite”.
It depends on the state. Some states have different ages of consent for boys and girls, and some have different ages for heterosexual vs homosexual consent.
In California, we have what you’re thinking of, which is sometimes called a “Romeo and Juliet” law, basically that teenagers can fuck each other without either of them being arrested for statutory rape.
The 2017 DNC Chair Election: A Cheat Sheet
by Josh Alvarez
February 21, 2017
November 9, 2016 revealed just how weak a Democratic Party without the White House is nationwide. Democrats are completely out of power in 24 states; the party fully controls only five states (Hawaii, Connecticut, California, Oregon, and Rhode Island). State legislatures not only pass impactful legislation—and make nationwide efforts like Obamacare possible or not—but also control redistricting (i.e. gerrymandering). The 2010 midterm “shellacking” gave the GOP control of state legislatures just in time to redraw district lines that have in turn provided a nearly indestructible (and totally unrepresentative) GOP majority in the House of Representatives. Congressional Democrats have barely enough seats to put up a fight against top-to-bottom GOP rule in the federal government.
The DNC is itself fragile. The current DNC Chairperson is Donna Brazile. She took over from Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who resigned after emails stolen from the DNC showed evidence of favoritism towards then-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Brazile worked as an analyst for CNN until another batch of stolen emails showed she shared possible moderator questions with the Clinton campaign ahead of a CNN-sponsored primary debate. These revelations, and Clinton’s subsequent defeat against the most unpopular presidential candidate in American history, have made Bernie Sanders and his supporters eager to completely revamp the DNC.
Amid this bleak political landscape, the Democratic National Committee will meet in Atlanta Saturday to elect a new Chairperson. The 447 members of the DNC, mostly party leaders and operatives, will elect the chairperson in a simple majority vote. As of right now, no candidate has secured 224 pledged votes, which means there will likely be more than one round of voting. The new DNC Chairperson will be tasked with rebuilding state-level party apparatuses, preparing for the 2020 presidential election, and will be the face (or at least a face) of Democratic opposition to the Trump administration.
Yet, this DNC Chair election has taken on inflated significance. The Sanders wing of the party has rallied around Keith Ellison, the Minnesota congressman and progressive stalwart, who announced his candidacy within a week of Trump’s victory. He seemed on his way to a sure victory until Obama Labor Secretary Tom Perez announced his candidacy a month later. Perez himself has strong progressive credentials, but that hasn’t stopped some progressives from characterizing him as a status-quo establishment candidate, a charge that is probably unfair to Perez. Perez recently claimed to have 180 pledged votes, which Ellison and Pete Buttigieg, another DNC Char candidate, have publicly doubted. Nonetheless, it doesn’t appear Ellison and Perez are buying into a false dichotomy; the two were spotted talking over dinner in D.C. last week. Their respective campaigns told The Hill that the candidates “talked about cooperation no matter the outcome of the Feb. 25 vote in Atlanta.”
@PK: I’m pretty sure there are only a few categories of mandatory reporters of child abuse. I doubt Milo’s is one of them.
From the Republican fringe to the White House
02/21/17 12:44 PM
By Steve Benen
A couple of weeks ago, a deputy assistant to the president in Donald Trump’s White House, made a curious argument during a radio interview. The official said Team Trump will continue to repeat its “fake news” talking point until news organizations stop “attacking” the president.
The official added, “[U]ntil the media understands how wrong that attitude is, and how it hurts their credibility, we are going to continue to say, ‘fake news.’ … That’s the reality.”
Even for Trump World, it was an odd thing to say. White House officials will keep saying “fake news,” not because the news is fake, but as part of a name-calling exercise responding to coverage Trump and his aides don’t like.
The official was a man by the name of Sebastian Gorka – one of several Breitbart News alum who’ve been hired to work in the White House – and he’s maintained a very high media profile of late, becoming one of Trump’s most notable cheerleaders and anti-media attack dogs.
The Wall Street Journal reported that Gorka, who’s focused his attention for years on what he calls the “global jihadist movement,” has even gained a seat at a powerful and influential table.
@hovercraft: Ages of consent vary by state.
@Betty Cracker: Peak Cleek is a lie.
Following a week of pressure, Trump denounces rise in anti-Semitism
02/21/17 02:52 PM—UPDATED 02/21/17 03:27 PM
By Steve Benen
At a White House event last week, a reporter asked Donald Trump about the recent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the United States. The president responded by talking about how impressed he was with his electoral vote totals in the 2016 election.
A few days later, a Jewish publication raised the same concerns. Trump said it was “not a fair question,” told the reporter to “sit down,” talked about how he isn’t personally anti-Semitic, and blamed his “opponents” from “the other side” for anti-Semitism. The Anti-Defamation League issued a statement soon after, describing the president’s answer as, among other things, “mind-boggling.”
The fact that his rhetoric came on the heels of the International Holocaust Remembrance Day controversy didn’t help matters.
Today, at long last, Trump managed to answer the question the way he’s supposed to.
Protesters Ready for Trump’s First Visit to New York as President
By SARAH MASLIN NIRFEB. NYT. 21, 2017
……………..The distaste for President Trump in his hometown has convulsed into near daily protests across the city. Summoned by a Facebook post or cellphone alert, New Yorkers have taken to the streets to object to his policies, appointments and executive orders.
All this, however, could merely be a prelude to the moment yet to come — Mr. Trump has still not set foot in New York City as president, puzzling and emboldening some protesters who see his weekend visits to his Florida estate as something of a retreat to friendlier ground. But whenever he does settle into his penthouse home atop Trump Tower, seething New Yorkers will finally be able to train their ire directly at Mr. Trump on his doorstep.
“The visual of Trump coming back to New York would be the Fifth Avenue of Manhattan flooded with people angrily protesting just about everything that Donald Trump has done — I don’t think he wants to create that visual,” said Carl Dix, whose anti-Trump group, Refuse Fascism, has been plastering the city with stickers that say “NO!” “I don’t think he wants the world to see that.”…………………….
……..“Donald Trump will never be chased out of his hometown,” said Roger Stone, a Republican operative who has worked on and off for Mr. Trump for 40 years. Mr. Trump, he added, has long tended to prefer spending winters at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Fla.
Besides, protests, no matter their size or level of vitriol, may satisfy people who will never embrace Mr. Trump, but do nothing to chip away at his ardent base, Mr. Stone said. “Politically, the demonstrations against you in New York probably help you in flyover country.”…………..
“We will be looking for his travel plans, and we are keeping all our ears open for when he is coming back,” Mr. Milano said. He added that they were devising creative ways to attract attention, including perhaps another “die-in.”
While he was president-elect, Mr. Trump spent most of his time in New York, yet rarely left his triplex penthouse. When he comes back he may choose again to stay inside and avoid watching whatever unfolds 58 floors below.
That possibility does not discourage organizers like Ms. Byrne, who say they will be out there, no matter what. “He is addicted to Twitter,” she said. “All you have to do is make sure that the events have really good pictures, and people are talking about it. Because he knows.”
He’s certainly not a mandatory reporter, but you’d think that some prosecutor somewhere might ask for some more information since he seems to be a material witness to a crime or multiple crimes.
Listening to that guy speak seriously sets off the alarm bells. All of them.
But he said he was the bestest friend, they heard him say so, he said he would pick the best, so that makes him the best. Didn’t that mean that he would protect them when the going got tough?
@hovercraft: Most people think that, but the age of consent really is 16 in something like 30 states. Federally, it’s 18, so you can’t cross state lines to hook up with a 16 year old in Alabama. Hell, most people I know (in Texas) are surprised that Texas’ age of consent is 17, like it’s really lax, as people tend to assume 18 is the most common. It tends to lead to these conversations where someone says it’s criminal to date a 17 year old, I say it isn’t and that’s it’s even lower in most other states, they say I’m a perv for knowing what the law is (this later showed up in an episode of “The Mick”, so it’s not just me).
Exhibit A) Ted Nugent
Exhibit B) That Duck Dynasty yahoo who was all about “getting them early” before they can learn to say no.
The fucking right doesn’t seem to have any problem whatsoever with underage girls.
@Mike in NC:
If Jeff Gannon could have a White House press pass, why not Milo?
Couldn’t happen to a meaner, more miserable sonofabitch.
@jacy: Will Hayden disagrees.
Hopefully with a better ending than the play.
“Kids, don’t have sex as teenagers; you’ll inevitably end up in a double suicide mediated by an incompetent monk.”
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A small correction… I’m sure that’s what you intended in the 1st place, no?
The Moar You Know
Milo wasn’t that useful and he was openly gay, which still gives a lot of the “Republican base” the icks. You’ll note there are still a crapload of those same people willing to defend the legacy of Joe Paterno/Jerry Sandusky.
So, no, it’s not a “bridge too far”, it’s simply a metric of utility. By way of example, Hastert never would have spent a day in court if he hadn’t retired and become useless to the GOP.
Thanks @Omnes Omnibus:
I have a 14 and a 10 year old, fun times!!
The text of his statement, maybe. But his tone of voice, and delivery, made it abundantly clear that he didn’t believe a word of it and was pretty much delivering a scripted message under duress.
My mom’s autopsy last year took many weeks because the Coroner’s office was backed up due to the high level of opiate/opoid deaths in the area, so I’m not surprised it will take a while in NYC as well.
(Who still figures it was “natural causes/heart attack” rather than anything sinister.)
Wow — I hadn’t heard about him, and that’s in my backyard. ‘Round here you’d say that, given he’s from Livingston Parish, it’s not a surprise….. Livingston Parish is pretty much the white trash drug capital of Louisiana….
@Mnemosyne: Yeah, I thought about the material witness idea, but wouldn’t there need to be some reasonable suspicion about a specific event he was at? I’m not sure anyone could just go fishing based on this statement.
In other words, by doing what the Obama administration already altered policy to do.
@LAO: It’s a bit ironic that a 17-month old video brought down Milo. I’m sure he’s wondering what hit him upside his bubble head. God don’t like ugly.
@Calouste: Its not the pederasty, its the publicity.
Well, if he doesn’t, I’m sure it’s all the liberals’ fault.
His come upence will be arrest. I imagine the video “confessions” have been forwarded to police. question is where the events he describes took place if they did. Jurisdiction and proof. Milo may be a liar too though he certainly seems to be as bad as he says.
It’s a good thing if the deplorables quit quoting him.
@rikyrah: And John Kelly, Secretary for Homeland Security, is playing along by hiring more agents to pick up undocumented aliens. It’s all hands on deck to drag people from their homes and break up families.
@Miss Bianca: Trans bashing is still AOK in day to day america.
@gvg: Arrest? I’m thinking more along the lines of deportation to England. He’s certainly stirred up enough mess here when he isn’t even an American. We have our own douches to deal with. We don’t need foreigners acting the fool. /s
@Calouste: You would think that saying you want to date your own daughter would be enough to give Christianists the heebie jeebies but I guess not.
@hovercraft: Providing cover for those slime trails? Who do you think you’re dealing with guys? For that kind of protection you have to pay a surcharge on top of the nomination fees.
So Milo turned out to be the actual thing that the hysterical right libeled normal gay men with for ages: that they’re sexually depraved and can’t be trusted with children. And they were fine with that so long as it was kept quiet and Milo annoyed libruls.
Memo to up-and-coming members of the Crips and Bloods who use food stamps to buy AK-47s and weed: say nasty things about Muslims and feminists. You’ll get a six-figure book deal out of it, and become a conservative icon.
@The Moar You Know:
Or, more generally, he was “other.” They’re fun for about fifteen minutes when it comes to savaging different “others,” or even their fellow “others,” but sooner or later it’s time to give them the boot and let the right people get on with the politicking.
Herman Cain is another prominent example, a guy whose public image as a presidential candidate in many ways foreshadowed Trump’s in terms of how nauseatingly balls-to-the-wall racist it was, with a special focus on Muslims and Mexicans. They loved the fact that he was black: it was something they thought they could rub in liberals’ faces without the liberals being able to respond without being racist themselves. But they were never going to make him president. (If it hadn’t been his sleeping around with white women, it would have been something else).
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Fuck that guy. That is all.
BTW WTH is plummy British accent? What’s with all these wannabe Tory rejects, why does the right wing here love them so?
Sully, Hitch, Niall F now Milo and Gorka.
We kept Sully and even gave him citizenship, these are white “conservative” males we are talking about, so the threshold for deportations higher than for most. Though with such an ethnic sounding name, Milo may be on thin ice. And we know how quickly “conservatives” change their tunes once a policy or law affects them personally.
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Now, if something like this can happen to O’Keefe and Tomi Lahrens, that would be awesome. Their smug rage is so boring.
And it sounds like the new rules are deport first confirm status sometime in the future.
Just a logistical question – you have to have a place to deport these folks to. What if Mexico say no you can’t deport them here. What do we do – just throw them in the Rio Grande? Open those unused Obama Fema camps? And I’m sure Das Fuhrer will get the Mexican government to pay for all of this.
Truely a day of shame for America.
I assume that they think an English accent reinforces your argument by proving that the speaker is erudite, intelligent, and sophisticated.
@Chris: We need to stop being so mean to them by blocking everything Hair Furor wants t do, mean liberals are taking the joy out of his victory. @Aleta: Suckers, a new born every day.
I recall that some of those who rationalized the offenses of Catholic priests tried to use this as a defense as well.
I don’t believe Milo is gay or a sex abuse victim.
Everything about him screams minstrel show stereotype.
@EBT: Yeah, I know. So’s feminist-bashing, fwiw. See, America really *is* a center-right country, after all! //
And consider the (rarer, but still not that rare) case of an older woman taking advantage of an underage boy; the one you hear about most is teachers taking advantage of students. The response in general is much more muted, often with a subtext (or even text) that the boy is lucky to have had sex with a hot older woman. It really is the gay that bothers them, not the age gap.
@Chris: The problem is that Trumpism defines criminal as “being outside” and “being accused of doing something”. Not certain what to do about this. At some point, the Democrats are going to have to focus on saving the documented immigrants. There’s not much that can be done for the undocumented immigrants save making sure that the processes in place for deportation are followed. It’s going to be a catastrophe and very cruel. Politically, though, I don’t know how much longer the Democrats can be the party that supports undocumented labor.
@Another Scott: I’m actually a little surprised there’s no cause of death yet. The list of natural causes that kill a person without warning is fairly short: myocardial infarction, massive pulmonary embolism, subarachnoid hemorrhage, SUDEP, arrhythmia without coronary artery disease. Most of the ones you’d expect in this guy (i.e., the first 3) have findings on an initial autopsy.
When they’re waiting like this, it usually either means toxicology findings or histology on samples taken at the [aptly named] gross exam. If this was an MI, they should have seen a plaque rupture or an occluded coronary artery.
I’m not a pathologist, but dealt with medical examiners regularly over a few decades. This is a little weird.
(edited to correct a typo)
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Pure, undiluted, pharmaceutical grade shadenfreude…
To quote Charlie Mingus…
If it was good enough for Lot, it should be good enough for our President.
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Schadenfreude aside, this is a minor victory, an unprotected pawn far removed from the real action. It’s amusing and a net positive, but not a BFD in my opinion.
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What did Frank Zappa once say about the Beatles?
One of the top Mexican politicians said that currently they accept as deportees anyone that claims to be Mexican. He then said that can easily be changed to “we will accept deportees that you can PROVE to be Mexican.”
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@West of the Rockies (been a while): No, but it sure is delightful… I’ve rarely seen anyone self-destruct publicly, in such a fitting way…
Now… back to the real work at hand…
There actually seems to be a lot of this going around on the right: accuse people of X, Y and Z based mostly on their group, only to protect the people who’re actually guilty of it.
Lots of noise made about how immigrants are supposedly allowed to simply waltz in like they own the place with no one asking them any questions because they provide votes for the politicians who let them in: of course, the demographic that easily fits the stereotype best are the Cubans, who vote Republican and whose privileges in the immigration system conservatives defend to the death. (Sure, the Cuban immigration wave included its more-than-fair share of gangsters, drug dealers, human traffickers, and yes, terrorists, but this one time, for some reason or another, it didn’t matter). Lots of noise made about how Muslims are all insane theocratic religious fanatics who either perform or support terrorism; of course, when it comes time to crack down on Muslims, the countries that fit that image to a tee (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan) are the ones that are spared. Lots of noise about how unions are all corrupt institutions that’re up to their eyeballs in dealings with the mob; of course, the unions of whom that’s actually true (Teamsters, building trades unions) are the ones that frequently break rank to support Republicans. Etc, etc, etc.
It’s a twist on the old projection thing. Want to find a member of a hated group that actually lives up to all the stereotypes? You’ll find him in bed with the same right wingers who’ve been propagating them. Which I suppose makes sense. Like all young writers, Republican propagandists were told, at one point, “write what you know.”
@amygdala: Thanks for the info.
In my mom’s case, she had a bad heart valve and at least some signs of CHF, had had several strokes over the years, etc. But the Coroner decided that she needed an autopsy because she had been given 2 doses of some drug (the name I can’t recall) when she was in intensive care when she should have been given only 1. It was an all too common mistake that humans make when they don’t have good procedures in place…
The Coroner was just being careful in doing the autopsy (the second dose wasn’t the cause of death).
Lots of things could have happened to Churkin, but I still will be very surprised if it’s something weird in his case. I guess we’ll find out eventually.
I hope Milo finds a way to beat off all his demons.
But only if they’re over 18.
@Roger Moore: “Dear CPAC Forum: I never thought this would happen to me…”
Hey, I’m looking for a tweet someone made along the lines of this. Has anyone seen the original?
Kids are a bridge too far. Unless of course it’s all those dead school kids in Connecticut. Then the NRA must be obeyed.
@Another Scott: I’m sorry about your Mom. Sounds like a situation that depended on specific toxicology results–not just the presence of a particular agent, but the level. And for whatever reason, those take weeks to come back.
With Churkin, if they don’t find evidence of the usual causes of sudden death on gross exam, then the pressure would be on to find a toxin, strange infection, etc. Or some sort of smoking gun in his medical records, which the ME is probably either reviewing or requesting right now. Poisoning deaths can be really hard to figure out. There are a lot of toxins out there and no general screening test for all of them. Sometimes the circumstances of the event or unexplained illnesses beforehand can suggest particular agents to test for.
Which is also why they are opposed to LGBTQI?+ because they think Milo and NAMBLA are the exemplars of all LGBT+ people and model what LGBT+ people aspire to be. The concept that they are the minority, and that most LGBT+people are no more like NAMBLA than they are like LDS fundies with ten wives each (and some younger than 16) just does NOT occur to them.
Same reason why Republicans continuously screech about “election fraud” while preventing American citizens from voting.
Comrade Colette Collaboratrice
Whatever his orientation or history, I expect his next act to be the time-honored confession/apology/victim-pleading schtick, wherein we learn how the malign influence of the Gay Agenda twisted him into a monster unable to tell right from wrong, desperately and helplessly playing out his psychodrama, making every outrage he committed a subconscious cry for help, and so cut off from humanity that he was unable to see how he had hurt people until he finally was forced to confront the truth of how his gullibility and eagerness for sex had damaged him. Now he’s ready to present himself as a cautionary tale and embark on a campaign to save others from going down the same path (see, e.g., Karla Faye Tucker.)
I’m willing to allow that sexual abuse could be at the root of his self-loathing – but he gets all the credit for being an evil little shit and a con man.
@sigaba: Jason Chaffetz can’t look his daughter in the eyes because he’s banging her from behind.
God, I hope his 15 minutes are up.
He still has apologists. Julian Assange is defending Milo while scolding liberals for censoring free speech. In case it wasn’t obvious before now, he aligned Wikileaks with the white nationalist party when he dabbled in Australian politics. He threw his support behind the white nationalist candidate in our last election. And now Assange is sticking up for the racist kiddie raping priest supporter. White is always right with some people. Even if it means rationalizing child sex abuse.
Concentration camps. See WW II for details on how they did it to Japanese-Americans.
And when the camps get too full?
Gas chambers and ovens.
No, I’m not joking. His supporters really are that depraved and will try to go there.
@rikyrah: how do I find out who’s representing my state at the party convention?
As opposed to fucking over children, which is still perfectly kosher with the alt-right. So much, yet so little difference adding a single word there.
@Roger Moore: Well, there’s always Mary Kay Letourneau.
@amygdala: Yes, it is. Infarcts are pretty easy to see on initial examination. Isn’t that what they thought it was at first? (before autopsy?) Hmmmmm ……
Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)
Am I the only person around here who remembers a semi-regular member of the BJ commentariat who offered up the same NAMBLA-style defense as Milo did? This would have been a few years back, when ABL and soonergrunt were still regular front-pagers…Around the time of the Snowden revelations, iirc.