Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

One lie, alone, tears the fabric of reality.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

This chaos was totally avoidable.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

So many bastards, so little time.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

Not so fun when the rabbit gets the gun, is it?

Republicans: The threats are dire, but my tickets are non-refundable!

The real work of an opposition party is to hold the people in power accountable.

The rest of the comments were smacking Boebert like she was a piñata.

We will not go back.

If you thought you’d already seen people saying the stupidest things possible on the internet, prepare yourselves.

Donald Trump found guilty as fuck – May 30, 2024!

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

Not loving this new fraud based economy.

Jack Smith: “Why did you start campaigning in the middle of my investigation?!”

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

People really shouldn’t expect the government to help after they watched the GOP drown it in a bathtub.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

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  2. 2.

    JGabriel

    I’m thinking one of these Oscar’s Open Threads should be called Asghar’s Open Thread and feature a picture of Farhadi.

  3. 3.

    lamh36

    Alight…so Viola Davis needs to win a Grammy award to become a member of the EGOT award club!

    Let’s find her a good audio book…STAT!

    Her voice is perfect for a good audiobook

  7. 7.

    lamh36

    @brandonspears
    Something tells me that’s probably not the meanest tweet about Casey Affleck on Twitter dot com. #Oscars

  8. 8.

    Mnemosyne

    I probably need to put my phone down so I don’t accidentally break it when LMM loses to these lame-ass songs.

    I mean, John Legend is doing his best, but …

  9. 9.

    ThresherK

    @Village Delando Est from downstairs: Show of hands, who else saw that Simpsons episode and immediately told their family, “Hey! That’s not a song from Paint Your Wagon“.

  10. 10.

    Villago Delenda Est

    BTW, it seems that the Donald fan base hates it very much if you refer to the shitgibbon as “Donald.”

  13. 13.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @ThresherK: The other problem is that Lee Marvin wasn’t in Paint Your Wagon, but of course, that’s not the real joke, either. Or Lee Van Cleef, too.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    @SiubhanDuinne: We haven’t seen Steeplejack in a while, so basically I’m doing the red flag in front of a bull to see if he shows up so we know he’s okay.

  21. 21.

    hovercraft

    OT

    Financier Philip Bilden has withdrawn himself from consideration to be the next Secretary of the Navy, several sources confirmed to USNI News on Sunday.

    Sources in the White House and the Navy told USNI News that Bilden’s extensive financial holdings, much of which he earned while living in Hong Kong, would likely not meet the Office of Government Ethics standards to serve in the position.

    The White House is scheduled to make the announcement this evening.

    news.usni.org/…

  23. 23.

    Brachiator

    @lamh36:

    . I’m rooting for Moana, so LMM can become a member of the EGOT award winners

    If Lin-Manuel Miranda wins an Oscar for composing music in Disney’s “Moana” he will be the third person ever to complete a PEGOT. P for Pulitzer Prize.

  24. 24.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @SiubhanDuinne: “You’re SUPPOSED to call him ‘Mr. President’ or ‘Mr. Trump’!!!!” This made this week’s Wonkette “Shit fer Brains” banhammered comments thread.

  25. 25.

    dm

    It says “open thread” so….

    Here’s Tim Hwang talking about social-media bots, psy-ops, and international law. Mostly bots and psy-ops:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxEBxUOBhjQ

    Some great stories, including a weird case involving a hoax about an explosion in a chemical plant in Louisiana (more details on that: https://render.betaworks.com/media-hacking-3b1e350d619c

    The Columbia Chemical plant case involved fake Wikipedia page, a fake news site, and seems to have been run out of Russia — in 2014.

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    @amk: I have no idea. I’m neither watching the Oscars, nor monitoring twitter. I’m getting ready to watch this week’s episode of (not) Finding Bigfoot (again, week #100 in a row).

  30. 30.

    sigaba

    I’m glad they didn’t do the lower-third crawl of thank-yous, that was so tasteless last year.

    La La Land for original score.

  31. 31.

    hovercraft

    @amk:
    The Governor’s Ball is tonight at the WH, so he should be busy with that. Between two blacks winning and two muslims, and all of the direct digs at him, by now he would have tweeted something. But as Kimmel said now we have something to look forward to during his 5 am dump tomorrow morning.

  41. 41.

    efgoldman

    @hovercraft:

    Financier Philip Bilden has withdrawn himself from consideration to be the next Secretary of the Navy

    So, here we are at the end of February without a Sec of the Army or the Navy.
    What the hell, maybe we’ll find out we’re better off.
    Or not.

  43. 43.

    ruemara

    12 hours before I’m at the surgeon’s and I really wish I had eaten more food. But I don’t actually have any more food. it’s all at my friend’s

    @Adam L Silverman: One day, I swear, Bigfoot is gonna send a text saying he was in Topeka.

  47. 47.

    sigaba

    @hovercraft:

    The Governor’s Ball is tonight at the WH, so he should be busy with that.

    What’s funny is the “Governors’ Ball” is also the big party all the AA winners go to after the awards too — in this case its the Governors of the Academy. I saw that in the Twitter feed they put up and I was like, “that’s weird, is Trump going to the Governors’ Ball?”

  48. 48.

    mouse tolliver

    If those were really the best two songs from La La Land it can go on my wait till it’s free on AMC list.

  51. 51.

    Adam L Silverman

    @efgoldman: We’re through two SecArmy nominees already. The only reason the average shelf life for a Service Secretary nominee is above four weeks is that the SecAir Force nominee hasn’t withdrawn yet.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    @amk: I just want to see if they can find my cousin Phil. No one has seen or heard from him in years and we’re getting worried. Not a single tree knock out of that guy.

  54. 54.

    efgoldman

    @Mnemosyne:

    Aren’t these the same people who insisted on calling our previous president “Barry”?

    And a Kenyan. And those were the nicer things.

  55. 55.

    amk

    Aside from boring oscar’s (sic)

    The father of a US Navy Seal killed in a raid on a suspected al-Qaeda compound in Yemen last month has said that he refused to meet US President Donald Trump when his son’s body arrived home.

    “I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,” he said he told a chaplain at the time.

    The raid on 28 January was the first such operation authorised by Mr Trump.

    Bill Owens, whose son William “Ryan” Owens was killed, told the Miami Herald that “the government owes my son an investigation”.

    “Why at this time did there have to be this stupid mission when it wasn’t even barely a week into his administration? Why?” he said in an interview with the newspaper published on Sunday.

    why indeed?

  58. 58.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Mnemosyne: Well, as new DNC chair Perez says, we should show Donald Trump all the courtesy that Yertle the Turtle did Barack Obama. None.

  62. 62.

    ruemara

    @Mnemosyne: I’m not. But i am drinking this soothing tea. No fluids or food after midnight, but I’ll be asleep since I have to be up by 5:30. too early

  72. 72.

    Another Scott

    @efgoldman: Trump still has to fill nearly 2000 vacancies…

    The figures below show Trump indeed has had the least successful run of Senate confirmations since George H.W. Bush back in 1989.

    […]

    But the administration’s ability to install political appointees goes far beyond those that require Senate confirmation. High-ranking roles like Cabinet officials draw the most public attention — and at times, controversy. But every president also gets to fill hundreds of other jobs throughout the federal government.

    For many such roles, Senate opposition is a non-factor: Those appointees can be named directly by the president or his top officials.

    Yet, as of Thursday, Trump had at least 1,987 vacancies within his new administration, most of which did not require Senate confirmation, according to data from tracking service Leadership Directories reviewed by CNN.

    “Well oiled machine…”

    :-/

    But, hey, he wants to bulk up the Pentagon budget and cut State’s and EPA’s, so it’s all good, amirite?!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  74. 74.

    Mnemosyne

    @debbie:

    It’s schtick. They’ve been doing it on Kimmel’s show for years, and Damon usually gets his own back at some point.

  77. 77.

    lamh36

    Adapted Screenplay goes to Moonlight!

    Woohoo!

    likely only award chance they have is maybe Picture or Director, I expect either 1 or none, but NOT both

  78. 78.

    mouse tolliver

    @Mnemosyne: After “we don’t need diversity behind the camera” and “gay actors should keep their sexuality private” he deserves to get shit on for real.

  79. 79.

    hovercraft

    @amk:
    He thought Kazir Khan was a pain in his ass, this man lost his son because Twitler wanted a quick easy “win” to show how tough he is.

  84. 84.

    lamh36

    Alright…I think I’m 5 for 9 of the categories I gave predictions for…let’s go for a perfect score!

  85. 85.

    Redshift

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    BTW, it seems that the Donald fan base hates it very much if you refer to the shitgibbon as “Donald.”

    That’s because Donald hates it. He insisted on being called “Mr. Trump.” That’s why Hillary called him Donald throughout the debates.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    @Another Scott: I can honestly say that a lot of this is because any Republican/conservative that would ordinarily be considered for one of these positions but was a NeverTrumper or is considered to not have been supportive enough is being excluded. My understanding is this also means that any attempt to pull anyone who would be considered for one of these positions who is either Independent or affiliated with a non-partisan organization or a Democrat are also being excluded. This significantly narrows the field.

    Ask me no questions, I’ll tell you no lies.

  88. 88.

    lamh36

    With MOONLIGHT’s screenplay win, this Oscar telecast just set a record: It’s the first ever to feature more than 3 black winners.

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    @mouse tolliver:

    Though you notice that what always happens on “Project Greenlight” happened this last time: the director looks like a whiny POS and the line producer is the hero. Which meant that Effie Jones was the hero once the series was over, and Damon just ended up looking like a dick.

  93. 93.

    lamh36

    Best Director from La La Land…that makes my total 6 for 9!

    Also means, that it for wins from Moonlight, unless it wins for Best Picture?

  95. 95.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)

    @JGabriel:

    All this Kimmel/Damon feud fol-de-rol is reminding me of that time Sarah Silverman told Kimmel she was fucking Matt Damon.

    It’s all part of the same running joke/feud/joke-feud.

  96. 96.

    hovercraft

    @amk:
    True. But the night Obama roasted him was also the night of the Bin Laden raid, so even if this had gone off without a hitch, Bin Laden would still be dead, nothing achieved would have compared.

  102. 102.

    mouse tolliver

    It seems like every other year Best Picture goes to a movie that is in one way or another about show business or the entertainment industry.

    Shakespeare In Love
    Gladiator (“Are you not entertained?!”)
    Chicago
    Million Dollar Baby (boxing)
    Slumdog Millionaire (game shows)
    The King’s Speech (he needed help from an actor)
    The Artist
    Argo (a love letter to Hollywood more than anything else)
    Birdman (Ugh!)

    Half the Academy probably voted for Spotlight because they thought it was about acting.

  106. 106.

    lamh36

    Anyway…Denzel is the winner in my heart

    @indoob
    That cut to Denzel was painful. He looked hurt. #BGNOscarWatchParty #Oscars

  115. 115.

    Dog Dawg Damn

    If La La Land wins Best Picture, I’m done. The Dems are over, and they can have 8 years of Trump. #DemExit

  118. 118.

    lamh36

    @Mnemosyne:

    @KendraJames_

    “Man, I wish I had something more meaningful to say.”

    I mean

    you could apologise

    to some women

    for a thing

    maybe?

    ???

    #Oscars

  119. 119.

    lamh36

    I’d love to say this is something Denzel is used to, but then I remember he’s only ever been nominated for 5 Oscars including this one…

  120. 120.

    sigaba

    @mouse tolliver:

    It seems like every other year Best Picture goes to a movie that is in one way or another about show business or the entertainment industry.

    YOU NOTICED! :) The trend in the last few years has been really thick.

    Wade Major was on the KPCC Filmweek podcast and he basically gave the most positive theoretical defense of La La Land I’ve heard, I work in the business and I completely agreed.

    La La Land is theoretically about how people in Hollywood are at this sort of moment of crisis, where all of us came to LA to make the movies we fell in love with, movies from the 70s and 80s and 90s, and all of the things that made those movies what they are are slipping away.

    When Gosling talks about how Jazz is dying, that’s really Chazelle talking about Hollywood, and about the futility of the fact that Chazelle is finally at this point where he can make basically whatever movie he wants, but all the creative forces that brought all of us to Hollywood are depleting and all people want to make now are 9 minute videos that sell toys to Chinese kids.

    So yeah, Academy voters are going to get sucked into something like that.

    @Mnemosyne:

    The largest contingent of Academy voters is actors.

    Not only that, there’s a very strong age bias toward people who first really made it in the late 70s and desperately want to see movies like the ones they were making at the nose end of the Second Golden Age.

  121. 121.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Mnemosyne: he probably thought it would be bad mojo to come up with a speech. after all, his brother and matt damon didn’t have a speech either when they won for best screenplay for good will hunting.

  135. 135.

    mouse tolliver

    Oscar history! They gave the Oscar to the wrong movie — La La Land. And then they had to give it back — to Moonlight. Because Faye Dunaway read the wrong name.

    Like that Jack Palance urban legend. But for real.

  138. 138.

    CaseyL

    Well, I’m glad I watched. I doubt there’s been a more mortifying moment (yep, even more so than Jack Palance) and I got to watch it live. And I’m so very glad Moonlight won!

  143. 143.

    CaseyL

    @Dog Dawg Damn: At the Oscars years ago, when he was nominated for Best Supporting for City Slickers, he made a weird speech and then got down on the floor and did pushups.

  154. 154.

    mouse tolliver

    @Dog Dawg Damn: After Marisa Tomei won Best Supporting Actress for My Cousin Vinnie (even though Judy Davis was the predicted winner for Husbands and Wives) some bitter film snobs claimed elderly presenter Jack Palance gave the award to the wrong actress because he read the last name on the teleprompter instead of the name in the envelope.

  156. 156.

    CaseyL

    How did they realize the mistake? I was looking away from the TV at that crucial instant. Did Warren or Faye take another look at the card and go “Holy Shit, we goofed”?

  161. 161.

    patroclus

    They gave Warren the wrong card – it said “Emma Stone, LA LA Land.” That’s why he looked flummoxed and took 20 seconds to announce it. Then he announced it, the speeches started and the accountants came out and passed the real card around, and the speeches stopped and then the LA LA Land producer announced it.

  163. 163.

    lamh36

    Glad Moonlight won, but damn…just imagine if the credits had start to roll and the Moonlight folks hadn’t gotten the chance.

    Apparently Beatty was given the wrong envelope?

    Someone saying it was from the previous category?

    smh

  166. 166.

    Groucho48

    it took a few minutes. The LaLa Land folks all got up on stage and gave their speeches and then Kimmel and a few other folks came up to the microphone and said there had been a mistake. Took a few moments to sink in as people realized he wasn’t joking.

    The presenters were Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway. When Beatty opened the envelope, he looked very confused and I thought he might be having a senior moment. he finally showed it to Dunaway, who said LaLa land had won. Later, Beatty said the card said Emma Stone for LaLa Land. If so, he got the wrong card. Wouldn’t be surprised if Dunaway and he hadn’t shown the card to someone to see what was what.

  167. 167.

    Tenar Arha

    @Wag: Seriously. It was the wrong envelope apparently. In a reply to FILM CRIT HULK it appears that Warren Beatty was handed the envelope which said “Emma Stone – La La Land” rather than the Best Picture envelope.

    ETA It’s hilarious, & ridiculous. But it’s definitely a result much easier to live with than Nov. 8

  168. 168.

    lamh36

    @Mnemosyne: right…it’s like ordering something in drive thru getting home and realizing it was the wrong order, but this time ya took it back!

  178. 178.

    FlipYrWhig

    Has Bernie Sanders said yet that contempt for Casey Affleck is the reason why Democrats can’t win elections?

  181. 181.

    CaseyL

    @Mnemosyne: I just saw it and I think it was the LaLa Land guy (director?) who realized the mistake, possibly when he looked at the award he was holding and saw the title. Because he’s the one who said “There’s been a mistake,” and then that he was honored to hand the Oscar over to the actual winners.

    Definitely a class act. Obviously, there are worse things to happen in the world, but that has be a kick in the gut.

    ETA: It was Jordon Horowitz, LaLa Land’s producer, who realized the mistake and made the announcement.

  187. 187.

    Temporarily Max McGee (Until Death!)

    @CaseyL:

    (director?)

    Producer. Producers receive Best Picture awards. Sometimes the director is also a producer, too, but in this case he was not.

    The card for Best Picture should have the film title above the producers’ names. Beatty got a card that read “LaLa Land/Emma Stone”, and, having a bit of experience presenting awards, knew something was off. Dunaway, who hasn’t presented an award in decades- if ever- thought he was joking around and just read, “LaLa Land.” She must not have noticed Stone’s name there, or she didn’t know that the producers’ names should have been there instead.

  188. 188.

    mouse tolliver

    Seriously though. This is good news for La La Land. There’s been increasing backlash pointing out some deal-breaking flaws. Right now it’s a profitable cult favorite. An actual win would’ve cemented its reputation as an overrated failure — ranking it alongside hated movies like Crash, Shakespeare In Love or The English Patient.

  192. 192.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    @efgoldman:

    I liked it a lot. I’m sure people have their reasons, but I suspect it also simply became hip to hate it, rather like hating Coldplay.

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