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Friday Evening Open Thread: Write Your Own Jokes Edition

by Anne Laurie|  March 3, 20174:44 pm| 232 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, Open Threads, Assholes

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Sources: Trump’s team rejected training course for senior staff, cabinet and others on ethics and management https://t.co/e35NKjTaxt

— Carrie Budoff Brown (@cbudoffbrown) March 2, 2017


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Apart from japes, what’s on the agenda as we start the weekend?

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  1. 1.

    Trentrunner

    March 3, 2017 at 4:46 pm

    Trump just here by hearby hereby “demanded” investigations on Nancy Pelosi’s and Chuck Schumer’s Russian connections and “lying” about them.

    (Took Trump multiple tweets to get the “hereby” correct.)

    But what’s ghastly is a POTUS “demanding” investigations willy-nilly, all as a smokescreen to his own likely wrongdoing.

    This. is. insane.

  2. 2.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    March 3, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    Это – то, что она сказала

  3. 3.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Carrie Budoff Brown via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    Sources: Trump’s team rejected training course for senior staff, cabinet and others on ethics and management. http://politi.co/2lACitD

    Why waste tax dollars on things like ethics and management that they’ll never use?

  4. 4.

    Served

    March 3, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    I always use to feel an existential dread at stories like this, but with Trump’s regime now in charge and totally non-functional, it’s more of a straight-up feeling of terror. Granted the risk of an epidemic is still low, but man, imagine this scenario taking a turn:

    According to an assessment from the World Health Organization this week, China had 460 lab-confirmed human cases of the H7N9 bird flu virus since last October — the most of any flu season since the virus was first reported in humans in 2013.

    This makes the current outbreak the largest on record for H7N9, a virus that typically circulates around poultry markets and can cause pneumonia or death when it spreads to people. Forty percent of those with confirmed H7N9 infections have died — including at least 87 people this year alone. That’s a very deadly pathogen.

  5. 5.

    Zinsky

    March 3, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Not a joke but a related question: Have you ever seen Donald Trump laugh? I mean a real, gut-busting belly laugh? Ever? Even once?

    Never laughing isn’t normal and is often an indicator of mental illness. I mean, really, what sort of sick person never, ever laughs??

  6. 6.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    @Trentrunner: Once gain, I am reminded that it is always—ALWAYS—projection with these assholes.

  7. 7.

    Death Panel Truck

    March 3, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    Ethics training is for losers and Democrats! Meanwhile crooked media spreads fake news about very ethical Jeff Sessions! Sad!

  8. 8.

    MattF

    March 3, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    @Trentrunner: Projection.

    And, I guess, possibly, the Rovian tactic of accusing your enemies of doing what you’re doing– but probably not. Rove is despicable and infuriating, but he has some self-awareness.

  9. 9.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 3, 2017 at 4:53 pm

    I’ll try once again to post a comment that vanished without a trace downstairs – maybe a change in punctuation is key.

    A few weeks back, in response to a comment here, I identified J.D. Gordon as the guy in the room at the RNC Platform Committee, but I alleged that he was acting on Manafort’s direct instructions – because I didn’t think DJT45 was stupid enough to leave a trail that pointed directly back to him. Certainly he’d use a cut-out for that effort.

    I was wrong. He was in fact stupid enough, and J.D. Gordon certainly doesn’t seem like he likes the looks of the underside of the bus at this point.

  10. 10.

    germy

    March 3, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    Alabama Theater Cancels Beauty and the Beast Due To Gay Character

    A theater in Alabama cancels viewings for Beauty and the Beast after it was revealed one of the live-action film’s characters will be gay.

  11. 11.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 3, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Once again my comment vanishes. I wonder what I’m doing wrong.

  12. 12.

    Mike in NC

    March 3, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    File this one under “Stupid Criminal Did What?”:

    Police are investigating a kidnapping reported Thursday, Feb. 23, on Clubhouse Road in Sea Trail.

    An officer found a woman bound with duct tape and lying on the floor on a couple of blankets inside her apartment during a check after the department had not heard from her that morning, Interim Police Chief Joe Smith said. The woman told police sometime before daylight a man with a mask over his face entered her rental unit, placed duct tape over her mouth and bound her wrists and ankles with duct tape, Smith said.

    She said she believes the man was her boyfriend, who has been served with a restraining order in the past to stay away from her.

    Items were also reported stolen from the home. Smith said warrants have been issued for a man who was picked up last week by the County Sheriff’s Office and is being held on separate charges at the County Detention Facility.

    Smith declined to name the man until an investigation into the validity of the incident is completed. “We’ve got a suspect,” Smith said Tuesday. “We’ve just got to get a little more (information) to make sure he’s the right person.”

  13. 13.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    @JGabriel (Me):

    Why waste tax dollars on things like ethics and management that they’ll never use?

    On further reflection, I suppose the Trumpsters probably could use the training, if only so they’ll know how to avoid doing anything that might accidentally give the appearance of being ethical, or managerially competent.

  14. 14.

    John Revolta

    March 3, 2017 at 4:56 pm

    Obviously, they thought it was “ethnics and management” and figured, “Pffft. When will we ever need that?”

  15. 15.

    MattF

    March 3, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Nothing, most likely. I recommend applying a course of percussive remediation to your computer.

  16. 16.

    Joyce H

    March 3, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    If they had the training, they wouldn’t be able to claim ignorance. “Gollllly, I had no IDEA that was illegal when I did it!”

  17. 17.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    @MattF:

    Projection.

    And, I guess, possibly, the Rovian tactic of accusing your enemies of doing what you’re doing …

    Actually, that Rovian tactic is sill called Projection. There’s no meaningful distinction in definition there.

  18. 18.

    Iowa Old Lady

    March 3, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    @Trentrunner: He “demands” it? He’s the president. If he thinks it’s important, he can order it. Oh wait. It’s really just a childish pout.

  19. 19.

    Amanda in the South Bay

    March 3, 2017 at 5:01 pm

    In other news, I raced home at lunch yesterday because my schizophrenic roommate was having a bad episode.
    https://m.imgur.com/Brufful
    Not visible is the broken glass from a picture frame, and one very scared kitty.

  20. 20.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @germy: It’s like they’re unaware that musicals as a genre are gay-gay-gay-gay-gay.

  21. 21.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    Trump just here by hearby hereby “demanded” investigations on Nancy Pelosi’s and Chuck Schumer’s Russian connections and “lying” about them.

    Does Trump understand that he is president of the United States, what are his rights and duties, and what is trivial BS that he is not supposed to be concerned about?

  22. 22.

    chris

    March 3, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Probably this.

  23. 23.

    John Revolta

    March 3, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    @Trentrunner: “No Russians! No Russians! YOU’RE the Russians!”

  24. 24.

    jeffreyw

    March 3, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    Willful ignorance is the required seasoning for whocouldanoed casseroles and dintseethatcoming pie.

  25. 25.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 5:05 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Does Trump understand that he is president of the United States, what are his rights and duties, and what is trivial BS that he is not supposed to be concerned about?

    Rhetorical question, I assume. But just in case:

    No.

    Thank you to our audience for joining us on this weeks episode of Simple Answers to Simple Questions! Join us again next week, same bat time, same bat channel!

  26. 26.

    sigaba

    March 3, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    @Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant): “This is that, what she said” doesn’t trip off the tongue in the same way.

  27. 27.

    GregB

    March 3, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    Any truth to the rumor that Rex Tillerson’s official duties will include playing the Easter bunny this year?

  28. 28.

    MattF

    March 3, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    @jeffreyw: With nooneknewitwassocomplicated a la mode for dessert.

  29. 29.

    Skepticat

    March 3, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    @Brachiator: No.

  30. 30.

    chris

    March 3, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay: That’s scary. As I recall you basically have no recourse so maybe it’s time to call the cops?

  31. 31.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 3, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @chris: Well, on the bright side, I’ve never contracted malaria.

  32. 32.

    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @GregB:

    Any truth to the rumor that Rex Tillerson’s official duties will include playing the Easter bunny this year?

    He looks so adorable in that wee cotton tail.

  33. 33.

    chris

    March 3, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: There’s always an upside. Forgive CC, he’s a little unhinged when it comes to gin.

  34. 34.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Ethics? Oh, yah, like in that movie:

    Press: “If you’re the government, then where are your ethics?”
    Gold Hair: “Ethics? We ain’t got no ethics. We don’t need no ethics. I don’t have to show you any stinkin’ ethics!”
    —The Bad Hombres of The Mar A Lago

  35. 35.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 3, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    @chris: People are wrong about all sorts of things.

  36. 36.

    p.a.

    March 3, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Would Sessions have to recuse himself from investigating anyone’s links with Russia? That would be sweeeeettt.

  37. 37.

    scav

    March 3, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    Übermenschen, especially of the orange class, transcend mere ethics and balance of powers. They do not deign to manage, they are instantly obeyed.

  38. 38.

    lgerard

    March 3, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    Is there any truth to the rumor that Jeff Sessions will be the new host of Celebrity Apprentice?

  39. 39.

    chris

    March 3, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: On the internet? Well, I never…

  40. 40.

    Shana

    March 3, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    @GregB: There was an article in WaPo this week that there’s been no announcement about any Easter Egg Roll this year. Not sure there’ll even be one since previous administrations have had announcements by this point in the year.

  41. 41.

    satby

    March 3, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay: call the cops and have her recommitted again. She’s a danger to herself obviously, but to your pet and you too. Her meds need adjustment and she needs to be compliant, and it will take hospitalization.
    And if her family objects then they need to come get her. You’ve been a good friend but she needs help she’s not getting.

  42. 42.

    jl

    March 3, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    Clearly, we know management is not a high priority with the Trump gang. I suppose we will have more detail on ethics soon enough.

  43. 43.

    satby

    March 3, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    @Shana: stuff like that is usually managed by the First Lady’s office, I think. Melania is AWOL from that role.

  44. 44.

    efgoldman

    March 3, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    @Shana:

    There was an article in WaPo this week that there’s been no announcement about any Easter Egg Roll this year.

    Wouldn’t that require the Shitgibbon to interact with (yyeewww!) CHILDREN!?

  45. 45.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 3, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    @JGabriel:

    Why waste tax dollars on things like ethics and management that they’ll never use?

    Hell, they probably didn’t even know what that meant…

    ETA… they probably looked at that phrase too quickly and saw ethnics an damagement…

    They don’t want anything to w/ the ethnics and they’ve already got the damagement part down cold…

  46. 46.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 3, 2017 at 5:28 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    all as a smokescreen to his own likely wrongdoing.

    Yep. Trump’s tendencies towards corruption have been well documented. Republicans are going along for the ride because they’re getting what they want from him.

  47. 47.

    NeenerNeener

    March 3, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    @efgoldman: Sigh….another thing the Obamas did effortlessly was entertaining children at the WH. I miss them so much.

  48. 48.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 3, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    @germy: Because gay people are so icky, doncha know. It’s not as if there aren’t any real live gay people in that theater’s jurisdiction.

  49. 49.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    @germy:

    Sorry, but anyone who hadn’t figured out that a male character who sings a song about how awesome and manly another male character is just might be gay should probably get out more.

    Oh, and someone should probably clue them in that Liberace was gay, too.

  50. 50.

    Patricia Kayden

    March 3, 2017 at 5:33 pm

    @efgoldman: He’d be okay interacting with the right kind of children but D.C. is pretty much filled with the wrong kind. Sigh. So sad.

  51. 51.

    Starfish

    March 3, 2017 at 5:34 pm

    What?! Comey needs to be in jail too.

  52. 52.

    Cacti

    March 3, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    Trump reminds me of that saying…

    Oh what tangled webs we weave, when you’re a lying mother fucker.

    I think that’s how it goes. :-)

  53. 53.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    You need to call your roommate’s doctor and tell him/her what just happened. HIPAA only means that they can’t give you any information, not that you can’t give them information.

    And, yes, unfortunately an involuntary commitment may be the best thing for everyone right now.

  54. 54.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    Do Balloon Juice readers make big bucks? Every time I read the site I get ads for Cadillacs, expensive cruises, financial advisors, things of that sort.

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Ironically, the actor playing Lefou, Josh Gad, is straight (married with 2 kids). So this movie theater is super upset that a FICTIONAL CHARACTER is played as being gay and in love with Gaston.

  56. 56.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Involuntary commitment is extremely difficult. In most states you have no chance unless the patient has injured or killed someone.

  57. 57.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Pogonip: Old men read Balloon Juice, they are the prime demographic for the things you listed. Mostly because they have the big bucks.

  58. 58.

    Cacti

    March 3, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Pogonip:

    Aren’t the ads usually individualized?

    You must be the money bags around here.

  59. 59.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    Apart from japes, what’s on the agenda as we start the weekend?

    Mostly just japes for me.

  60. 60.

    DocSardonic

    March 3, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @germy: It’s a drive in….. most of their patrons are not watching the movie, they are probably to busy going through the Camaro Kama Sutra, to care what the movie is.

  61. 61.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    @Starfish: Was just coming to post that. Sen. Coons says FBI has transcripts that show Russian leaders colluding with the Trump campaign.

    Drip, drip, drip.

  62. 62.

    Waldo

    March 3, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    @germy:

    Alabama Theater Cancels Beauty and the Beast Due To Gay Character

    A theater in Alabama cancels viewings for Beauty and the Beast after it was revealed one of the live-action film’s characters will be gay.

    This being Alabama, I gather they had no problem with the bestiality aspects.

  63. 63.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    @Pogonip:

    It’s worth a try, especially since Amanda has pictures. There’s probably a pretty good case that her roommate is in danger of hurting herself.

  64. 64.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    @Cacti: If that’s so, the rest of you must be darn near penniless!

  65. 65.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    @Cacti:

    I’m getting cat food ads, so …

  66. 66.

    Mike in DC

    March 3, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    Harper’s has a translated letter from Trumps grandfather to the Prince Regent of Bavaria, begging not to be deported back to the US for avoiding military service. Hilarious.

  67. 67.

    Grung_e_Gene

    March 3, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    So Crimea River…

  68. 68.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    @Shana: Oh, that’s so sad. Hasn’t every president in recent memory had one?

  69. 69.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Ah. You’re the cause of the ads. You can afford more than one jape!

  70. 70.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Do you have a cat? Subscribe to a magazine about cats?

  71. 71.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    The ads are a weird combination of things from the various tracking services and things from the blog content, for me. So I’ll get ads for programming textbooks, pet food, and gold.

  72. 72.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    @Pogonip:

    It was probably triggered because Amanda’s comment that I replied to referred to her cat. Though I do also have cats.

  73. 73.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 3, 2017 at 5:51 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Mmmmm, gold.

  74. 74.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    In all the Sessions hubbub I missed this yesterday:

    Donald Trump’s state visit to the UK is to be delayed until October and will take place mostly in Scotland, according to reports.

    The Daily Mail has reported that planners want to shift much of the US president’s trip – originally pencilled in for the first week in June – to the Queen’s residence at Balmoral, Aberdeenshire, in a bid to deter protesters.

    The president could spend as little as one day in London before heading to Scotland.

    A senior Whitehall source told the paper: “The Americans have asked to push it back.

    “They don’t want what will be one of his first big foreign trips to be overshadowed.”

    I’ll bet the Brits are hoping he’ll be out of office by then and they won’t have to deal with him at all.

  75. 75.

    Gravenstone

    March 3, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    @Trentrunner: I saw one of the tweets in question because a friend shared a news report highlighting it. For what it’s worth, I took it more as Trump trying to almost joke about it, pointing out that other members of Congress have also had contact with Russians (including Putin) so their complaints about Sessions speaking with Kislyak should be dismissed as pure hypocrisy. In other words, he’s getting nervous and lashing out. If he truly is “demanding” investigation, then the shit is about to hit the fan, especially if Ryan/McConnell comply.

  76. 76.

    Ian G.

    March 3, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    @Brachiator:

    It’s stuff like this that make me wish there was a “like” button or something for comments here. I literally lol’d.

  77. 77.

    scuffletuffle

    March 3, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    @Pogonip: we are all independently wealthy, aren’t you? (Gives Pogonip sideeye…)

  78. 78.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    From NPR:

    Turkeys Circling A Dead Cat Are Probably Wary, Not Working Dark Magic

    The video is unnerving.

    More than 15 turkeys walk in a circle — not running or distressed, but walking with intention — around a dead cat in the middle of the road.

    Twitter user @TheReal_JDavis filmed the moment. “That is the craziest thing I’ve ever seen,” he says on the video. “Bro, this is wild.”

    “These turkeys trying to give this cat its 10th life,” the Boston resident wrote, in a tweet that proceeded to go viral.

    What, if not dark magic, was going on there?
    […]

  79. 79.

    Ian G.

    March 3, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    @Mike in DC:

    You know who else didn’t want to be deported from Bavaria back to his home country to avoid military service?

    Of course, he unlike the cowards of the Drumpf clan, ended up fighting for Germany….

  80. 80.

    Cacti

    March 3, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Don’t the Scots hate Trump even more than the English, because of his stupid golf course?

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    Ethics, obviously, are for losers.

    Every last one of these people needs to be banished to an ice floe with hungry polar bears.

  82. 82.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    @Gravenstone: “Investigation” and imprisonment of opposition leaders is authoritarian 101. Trump is going to give it a go, but they’re so incompetent that it may not work out for him. He’ll have to show some kind of cause and so far the examples he’s using are not good enough.

    I agree he’s flailing because he’s nervous. He can’t control all this the way he usually could control such things before. Wonder what the weekend will bring.

  83. 83.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Cacti: They do indeed. But there are fewer of them and they’re more spread apart. Balmoral is kind of in the middle of nowhere and quite private so protests will be less of an issue. I did read somewhere that there’s only one road in and out of Balmoral, so perhaps protesters can shut that down. Maybe they’ll just take a helicopter.

  84. 84.

    dmsilev

    March 3, 2017 at 6:07 pm

    @Cacti: Yes. We have the Scots to thank for ‘ferret-wearing shitgibbon’ as a descriptor for Trump.

  85. 85.

    dmsilev

    March 3, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    @Yarrow: He’ll probably tell Elizabeth II that her residences are lame and SAD and need more gold leaf to glam things up a bit.

    And then we’ll find out for real whether or not she has a death gaze.

  86. 86.

    Tokyokie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    Hey, if manly man leader of men Vladimir Vladimirovich can order people who piss him off murdered, then Dolt 45 should at least be able to order them investigated.

  87. 87.

    Это курам на смех

    March 3, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @Cacti: No, they love him. He is Scotch too.

  88. 88.

    Gravenstone

    March 3, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: yeah, somewhere in their primal bird brains (heh) there is probably a pattern that says “bigger versions of this have hunted us in the past – be careful”.

  89. 89.

    RobertDSC-Mac Mini

    March 3, 2017 at 6:18 pm

    @Pogonip:

    In Benedict Donald’s America, money spends you!

  90. 90.

    debbie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    @Cacti:

    Also because he tweeted congratulations to them for voting for Brexit, when in fact they’d voted very strongly against it. Their responses were classic; in fact, that’s where the label “shitgibbon” came from.

  91. 91.

    debbie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:21 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Have they decided whether he’ll meet the Queen?

  92. 92.

    Thru the Looking Glass...

    March 3, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Every last one of these people needs to be banished to an ice floe with hungry polar bears.

    What do you have against polar bears? You make it sound like they’ll eat ANYTHING…

    Aren’t they in enough trouble as it is?

  93. 93.

    hovercraft

    March 3, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    @Zinsky:
    Some comedian made that point a while ago, there is something wrong with a person who does not laugh, or have a sense of humor. He also never smiles like a normal person, it’s more like a grimace. Sociopath.

  94. 94.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @Gravenstone: I just love the ‘probably’ in the headline.

  95. 95.

    debbie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @Pogonip:

    I get nothing but shoes and clothes. I don’t shop that much.

  96. 96.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    @debbie: the label, but not the term. Somebody tracked it down! https://www.google.com/amp/amp.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/02/13/the_origin_of_the_trump_insult_shitgibbon_revealed.html

  97. 97.

    Anne Laurie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    @debbie:

    Have they decided whether he’ll meet the Queen?

    I’m no monarchist, but give the old lady a break. She’s spent many years doing a tedious (though well-compensated) job for her country; having to make nice with Lord Smallgloves, at her age (and his), is a bridge too far!

  98. 98.

    trollhattan

    March 3, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    Meanwhile in Kansas, the likely model for everything Trump and congress want to do.

    The latest incident in the long saga of terrible fallout from Governor Sam Brownback’s disastrous fiscal experiment in tax-cutting comes from the Supreme Court of Kansas. It has ordered the state to provide a new, fairer, and more generous formula for funding schools in order to comply with constitutional requirements for public education. More specifically, it struck down a “block grant” system tossing out limited money indiscriminately that Brownback devised after a fiscal deadlock with the Republican-controlled legislature made the old formula impossible. The court agreed with less-well-funded schools that the block grant unconstitutionally underfunded them. So now the governor and the state, already in the throes of another fiscal crisis, will have until June to come up with a new formula. One quick estimate is that it will cost between $431 million and $893 million to comply.

    Stupid judges, why didn’t Brownback buy better ones? And how didn’t he make it onto Trump’s cabinet?

  99. 99.

    debbie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Anne Laurie:

    Oh, I agree she shouldn’t give him an audience, but those Brits are always so damn polite, they may not want to turn him away.

  100. 100.

    dmsilev

    March 3, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    @Anne Laurie: She’ll take one look at him, cry “release the hounds!”, and then stand back and watch as Trump vanishes underneath a pack of vicious attack corgis.

  101. 101.

    debbie

    March 3, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    So of course, he’s getting death threats. Unbelievable.

    I must say I’m surprised it isn’t Scottish. It would have felt right at home in the movie Trainspotting.

  102. 102.

    El Caganer

    March 3, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Is there a Golden Showers Pavilion at Balmoral?

  103. 103.

    Mike J

    March 3, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    @Yarrow: Traditionally she flies into Aberdeen then goes to Balmoral on miniature horse.

  104. 104.

    les

    March 3, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Stupid judges, why didn’t Brownback buy better ones? And how didn’t he make it onto Trump’s cabinet?

    He’s tryin’. He’s introduced legislation to take funding away from courts that displease him, and to allow the Gov. to appoint anyone he wants to the bench. Points for effort!

  105. 105.

    Wapiti

    March 3, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    The Queen probably had the visit pushed back, in hopes that something intervenes. Trump is ousted, she dies, anything.

    Regarding the Easter Egg roll. (1) Donald hasn’t had time to come up with a plan for monetizing it. (2) The Trumps should be attacked for their War on Easter.

  106. 106.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 3, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @JGabriel:
    “Oh son, for that you sold your everlasting soul?”
    “Well, I wasn’t using it>”

  107. 107.

    MCA1

    March 3, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I think to them “ethics” sounds suspiciously like “sensitivity training” and therefore “political correctness.” Ergo, worthless lieberal crap, fuck you we won’t do it you can’t tell me how to act!

  108. 108.

    Kropadope

    March 3, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    Apart from japes, what’s on the agenda as we start the weekend?

    See Logan with my sister and a good friend of mine. Criticism I’ve seen has been positive so pretty stoked.

  109. 109.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    March 3, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @Thru the Looking Glass…: Polar bears will play with anything they encounter. They’re kind of like cats in that regard.

  110. 110.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @scuffletuffle: Well, if Amazon can make black, I guess Balloon Juice can make me rich!

  111. 111.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Wonder what the weekend will bring.

    A Myocardial infarction, if we’re lucky.

  112. 112.

    chris

    March 3, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    @Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: And they don’t see a difference between humans and seals, they’re both yummy.

  113. 113.

    mai naem mobile

    March 3, 2017 at 6:51 pm

    The babysitters are off on sabbath. He’s going to flip out on the twitter machine .

  114. 114.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Ad this time: Nordstrom!

  115. 115.

    John Revolta

    March 3, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @trollhattan: Didn’t Brownstain pass some law that forbids the Supreme Court from ruling against him?

  116. 116.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 3, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @Pogonip: Right now mine is for Squarespace, because half of my fucking internet ads are for Squarespace right now, and I have absolutely no idea why.

  117. 117.

    Aleta

    March 3, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @Starfish: OMG in that video it looks like Sessions is wearing a giant reddish tie now too! (Eerie music.)

    But seriously I agree with you about Comey. At this point he’s also protecting his own amoral self.

  118. 118.

    efgoldman

    March 3, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    He’d be okay interacting with the right kind of children

    He doesn’t even interact with his own son.
    I think he is really phobic about kids and pets. Plus human interaction of any kind is clearly damned near impossible for him.

  119. 119.

    efgoldman

    March 3, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Mostly because they have the big bucks.

    Somehow the big bux missed me.

  120. 120.

    Aleta

    March 3, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I have absolutely no idea why.

    Don’t be a rectangle daddy-o (?)

  121. 121.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    I also don’t know what this means, but in my federal building, the official Presidential portrait isn’t up yet. I don’t recall it taking this long for them to show up.

  122. 122.

    Mnemosyne

    March 3, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    @Yutsano:

    It’s a big Photoshop job to get Donald looking relatively human.

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    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    @Yutsano: Not in my wife’s, either. Her boss joked that maybe they’d allow him to put up a wallet sized photo in lieu of the usual one.

  124. 124.

    Kathleen

    March 3, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    @JGabriel: They could use the “Business Ethics” module from Trump University.

  125. 125.

    Yutsano

    March 3, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’ve seen pictures of him recently. My God he’s wearing a TON of make-up. It’s like a horrid drag queen.

    @liberal: I’m pretty sure the portraits come out of the White House. So odds are we may not even see them before he’s out.

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    Aleta

    March 3, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Anne Laurie: If he annoys her can she throw him in the Tower?

  127. 127.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:20 pm

    @Yutsano: Incompetence manifests itself in many ways big and small.

  128. 128.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:21 pm

    @Aleta: I’d give her one of the original states back if she did that.

  129. 129.

    Aleta

    March 3, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    @Yarrow: They’re planning to break out the pipes every time he opens his mouth.

  130. 130.

    Kathleen

    March 3, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    @Shana: I hope not. Heaven knows Trump doesn’t need a captive audience of 10 year old girls to ogle and catalog as future date bait.

  131. 131.

    Pogonip

    March 3, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: I don’t even know what Squarespace is (unless it’s anywhere I happen to be).

    This time it’s an ad for using teabags to remove eye puffiness. I guess they got my age and sex right–but I don’t have eye puffiness! My problem is wrinkles.

  132. 132.

    Gravenstone

    March 3, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @Baud: Think she’d take South Carolina back? Always been the problem child of the bunch, seceding and all.

  133. 133.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    @Waldo: congratulatios, where would you like your Internet delivered?

  134. 134.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    @Gravenstone: That wouldn’t be very gracious of us. It’s like giving your significant other tube socks for Christmas.

  135. 135.

    Annie

    March 3, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    @Aleta:

    We can always dream . . .

  136. 136.

    Yarrow

    March 3, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    @debbie:

    Have they decided whether he’ll meet the Queen?

    The Queen is the head of state, so if it’s a state visit he’ll have to meet her. Plus, Balmoral is the Queen’s Scottish residence so it seems he’ll meet her. The Prime Minister doesn’t have access to it unless invited by the monarch.

    The real issue was whether or not he’d be allowed to address Parliament. There was a massive amount of resistance to that idea, both from Members of Parliament and the British people, so I think that’s been scrapped.

  137. 137.

    Kay

    March 3, 2017 at 7:40 pm

    So tomorrow is our first “resistance” meeting. I made fruit salad! I may add walnuts but they’re somewhat controversial so I may not.

    This is a very easy “resistance” so far, I must say. Maybe later there will be marching or something :)

  138. 138.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:42 pm

    @Kay: Resistance with Cocktails and Kay!

  139. 139.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    @Yarrow: I hope he addresses Parliament so they can boo the shit out of him.

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    Dave

    March 3, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    @Trentrunner: Just curious but if meeting the Russians is a normal part of their job how many of Clintons people had meetings with Russians during the campaign?

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    Spanky

    March 3, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    @Aleta:

    They’re planning to break out the pipes every time he opens his mouth.

    Crack?

  142. 142.

    Spanky

    March 3, 2017 at 7:46 pm

    @Kay:

    I may add walnuts but they’re somewhat controversial so I may not.

    Putting them on the side is always a good compromise, although compromise is anathema to a resistance movement

  143. 143.

    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    Text wife: “Can I take the 8:30 train home?”
    Reply: “Yes”. Followed by “Call me.”

    Grumble, grumble…signal sucks, gotta go upstairs where the landlines at work are.

    “Yes, honey, what’s up?”
    “He’s tweeting again!”

  144. 144.

    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 7:48 pm

    @Spanky: I’d think, rather, a heavy dose of opioids is in order.

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    JGabriel

    March 3, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Kathleen:

    They could use the “Business Ethics” module from Trump University.

    As I’m sure they say at Trump University: Business Ethics? What’s that?

    @Just One More Canuck: Heh. LOL’d.

  146. 146.

    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    @Baud: What do the Tories think of him? I would assume the “Leave” folks would get along with him fine.

  147. 147.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @liberal: Good. I hope they counter boo and a fight breaks out.

  148. 148.

    Debbie1

    March 3, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @JGabriel: Why bother taking a course on ethics if you’re in The*mp’s administration. In fact, why bother to avoid even the appearance of impropriety with Paul Ryan & M. McConnell as majority leaders. Add to that, gullible voters willing to reward bad conduct.

  149. 149.

    Kay

    March 3, 2017 at 7:50 pm

    @Baud:

    No cocktails. It’s a morning meeting. I’m a morning person, Baud. My voicemail is full but I’m not listening to the messages. “look, I’m only gonna say this ONCE” – how can they have questions already ? How is that possible?

  150. 150.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    @Kay:

    No cocktails. It’s a morning meeting.

    I don’t understand the connection.

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    bemused

    March 3, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    @Cacti:

    Yes. Watch the doc “You’ve Been Trumped” about Trump ugly tactics to get his Scotland golf course. It was playing on cable quite a bit during the campaign.

  152. 152.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay:

    Holy shit, Amanda! I guess there’s a backstory I don’t know, but that seems hugely unsafe. I’m sorry your roommate suffers from schizophrenia and I hope s/he is able to get appropriate treatment, and soon, but you don’t need to be in that situation. Nor does the poor terrified kitty.

    I wish all of you well.

  153. 153.

    JPL

    March 3, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    @liberal: Is he? I’m afraid to check, since last night’s sleep was interrupted with nightmares about Trump .

  154. 154.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    n/m

  155. 155.

    robert thompson

    March 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    Jared Knew
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    Trump’s son-in-law and adviser has been concealing a Flynn-Russia meeting for months.

    By William Saletan
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/03/jared_kushner_has_been_concealing_the_flynn_kislyak_meeting_for_months.html#comments

    Kushner is the square wheel in this mess. He is an unofficial official and seems to have his hand in any and every pie. Bannon is a bad hombre but I think Kushner is Mephistopheles, or worse. To what purview is he responsible. It seems very gray.

  156. 156.

    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    @JPL: She’s referencing what people above references, the stupid fucking shit about Schumer having a donut with Putin a few years back. Also something about Pelosi having met Putin or something.

    Someone had joked that, while he probably would have done it on his own, he most certainly would have returned to tweeting given that more shit about Russia hit the fan after the brief post-speech honeymoon.

    ETA I came back here after talking to her to see what BJ was saying about it.

  157. 157.

    Emma

    March 3, 2017 at 7:59 pm

    @Yarrow: I can’t wait for the hissyfit when he realizes the Obamas went to Windsor by helicopter for a private birthday lunch (the queen’s birthday was the day before) and they were driven around by Prince Phillip himself. .

  158. 158.

    Zinsky

    March 3, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    @Baud: Hey! I like tube socks!

  159. 159.

    liberal

    March 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @robert thompson: What do we know about Kushner, ideologically? We know Bannon is a fucking shithead who wants to unleash hell, but Kushner seems like a large-scale grifter.

  160. 160.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    @Kay: No nuts in the fruit salad, please. Inquilab Zindabad!
    90 years of Indian resistance to the British Raj in 9 min.
    Actual footage of Gandhi at about 8.24 or so

  161. 161.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @Zinsky: I hope you find your soulmate.

  162. 162.

    JPL

    March 3, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    @liberal: Like father, like son.

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    EBT

    March 3, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Flying while trans worked out well enough. Hopefully my return trip back from Seattle will be as smooth next week.

  164. 164.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2017 at 8:05 pm

    @Yarrow: Donald Trump’s state visit to the UK is to be delayed until October and will take place mostly in Scotland, according to reports.

    wasn’t it in Scotland that the original “Shitgibbon” sign was hoisted?

    The president could spend as little as one day in London before heading to Scotland.

    Well, there’s no way Londoners could mount a protest that will get the world’s attention, humiliate the Shitgibbon and scare the crap out of British pols. I saw a poll saying that only about 50% of Britons oppose the visit, but I suspect the number is a bit higher in London. Just a bit.

  165. 165.

    gene108

    March 3, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    @Kropadope:

    See Logan with my sister and a good friend of mine. Criticism I’ve seen has been positive so pretty stoked.

    There is no movie trailer at the end of the credits, like so many Marvel movies have.

  166. 166.

    robert thompson

    March 3, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    @liberal: Can’t say with any certainty. I suspect its more than just the grift. he has been a low profile pusher of agendas to be sure. Does he think a new Euro-Atlantic security arrangement is order and the power of oil compels it. Or is it simple grift. I am interested in what others here may think.

  167. 167.

    bemused

    March 3, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    @GregB:

    Maybe someone has already mentioned this but that job may already be taken by Sean Spicer. Press secretary isn’t his WH job. Pics of him being Easter Bunny at WH annual Easter egg hunt have made rounds of twitter today.

  168. 168.

    Gin & Tonic

    March 3, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @EBT: Is that why they call it transportation?

    I’ll show myself out, thanks.

  169. 169.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Thread closed.

  170. 170.

    Barbara

    March 3, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Amen to this. I called my sister’s therapists to report anything that concerned me. It amazed me how well she could pull herself together for her hour with the shrink.

  171. 171.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 8:13 pm

    @Yarrow:

    The Daily Mail has reported that planners want to shift much of the US president’s trip – originally pencilled in for the first week in June – to the Queen’s residence at Balmoral, Aberdeenshire, in a bid to deter protesters.

    If we can get 500,000 protesters to the Women’s March on Washington the day after the inauguration, complete with hundreds of thousands of pussyhats, I can’t think it would be all that hard to get a few tens of thousands of Brits to Aberdeenshire.

    I hope he does visit Scotland. The Scots are the best, the greatest, at coming up with colourful epithets, nobody does it like the Scots, believe you me!

  172. 172.

    Vhh

    March 3, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @JGabriel: I am relieved that they did not tske the training. Ignorance of what normal behavior looks like makes their outrageous behavior more obvious to the public.

  173. 173.

    Kay

    March 3, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @robert thompson:

    I’m old enough to remember when we were repeatedly told that Trump hiring family members didn’t mean anything.

    Absolute bullshit. Once again, the Trump Family get special rules.

    You know what? It’s gross that he hired his son in law. A decent person would have shown some restraint and not foisted their entire fucking family on the country. None of these people are qualified and they make the whole idea of “merit” into a joke. Other people earn jobs and when the Trumps take advantage like this it takes something away from people who earn their positions.

    The thing that makes me maddest about Trump voters is they put me in the position of getting played by these frauds and I wasn’t played and I don’t deserve that. Why is this guy’s son in law in such a position of power and why is everyone acting as if this is acceptable? Is this the rule now? The President installs a shadow cabinet of family members and we’re all supposed to play along and pretend they somehow earned this?

  174. 174.

    Barbara

    March 3, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @Amanda in the South Bay: I am really sorry to hear this. I posted a link to an article in the previous thread where you first posted about this that I found to be really illuminating on current approaches to schizophrenia. I hope she is doing a little better.

  175. 175.

    dm

    March 3, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    @liberal: Reportedly a bigly fan of Benjamin Netanyahu (who has been a houseguest of his parents). Raised as a Democrat, but endorsed Romney in 2012 over disappointment with Obama on Israel.

  176. 176.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @Kay: It’s the normalization of Suhartoism that disturbs me, much as it disturbs you. On the upside, the downfall is going to be spectacular, and the entire family is going to be affected by it.

  177. 177.

    Spanky

    March 3, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    @EBT: Did you fly TWA? Seems they would have a leg up on that sort of thing.

    What’s that? Ohhhhhhhhh.

    Never mind.

  178. 178.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Spanky: Thread closed again.

  179. 179.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Kay:@Baud: Baud is right, serve mimosas with your breakfast!

  180. 180.

    robert thompson

    March 3, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    @Kay: Agreed. The one glaring facet of authoritarianism is the reliance on family members to run the government because naturally they can’t trust anyone or any institution. Kushner is the tell.

  181. 181.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: l was just listening to an interview with Gillian Anderson, who stars in “The Viceroy’s House,” about the Mountbattens and the partition of India. I have huge reservations about the movie, and perhaps some hints that partition could have been avoided, and that Churchill sent Mountbatten to India to manage independence, but had already made up his mind about the outcome. What is obviously missing here are the Indian leaders who were at the center of things.

    Also, btw, enjoyed Lion, and thought that Dev Patel was fine, with an excellent presence. I think he will grow as an actor.

  182. 182.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 3, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    It’s a big Photoshop job to get Donald looking relatively human.

    I’m getting pretty good with the Photoshop, but I can’t do that.

  183. 183.

    HeleninEire

    March 3, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    OK so this just happened.

    Some background: I’ve joined a dinner club here in Dublin for people over 50. It is fabulous. There are about 300 members and at each dinner (monthly-ish) about 30 show up. So every time you go you may see people you know, maybe not. This was my 3rd. Tonight there were 3 people who I’d met before and 25 that I didn’t.

    What happened: I sat with the people I didn’t know cuz I need to make friends. Somehow the topic of gay marriage came up. I was like “YAY you Ireland, you were the first to make it legal by popular referendum” And the woman next to me told the fabulous story about how her son came out. And her big takeaway was “normal is normal.” And the whole table was “Yay, gay people, also Ireland rocks”

    Then out of nowhere some lady across the table from me says “Have you ever had a gay person…..touch you?”

    Oh holy shitballs. I handled it about as poorly as I could have. I said “I gotta pee” and went to the ladies room (the “loo” if ya wanna be Ireland correct) and stayed there for 10 minutes. I did not want to have that conversation. And I certainly didn’t want to have it as a know-it-all American.

    By the time I came back the topic was on to something else, but oh holy shitballs.

    The end.

  184. 184.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @Brachiator: Never heard of it. Will check it out. Churchill did not want an independent India. India got its independence in 1947 because Winnie lost the general election. The seeds of the partition were sown way back in 1905 with the partition of Bengal on religious lines by Curzon.

    ETA: There is plenty of blame to go around but Mountbatten’s inept handling and his expedited timetable did not help. When the British lost the confidence of the British Indian Army they basically ran away leaving behind a bloody mess. Bastards.

    ETA2: I am sure the movie is good, but I am kind of tired of movies with white saviors and raggedy Indians.

  185. 185.

    Gelfling 545

    March 3, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    @Cacti: oh, yes. Well known. Some great poet.

  186. 186.

    Van Buren

    March 3, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @Pogonip: All that sweet Soros cash doesn’t just sit under mattresses!

  187. 187.

    hovercraft

    March 3, 2017 at 8:33 pm

    @Wapiti:
    I’m remembering the Obama’s at the WH outside with the kids, participating in the activities, doing the book readings, just having fun with kids, can you imagine the shitgibbon doing any of those things? Can you even see him having a good time during any WH event that is not about aggrandizing him?

  188. 188.

    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    @HeleninEire:

    Then out of nowhere some lady across the table from me says “Have you ever had a gay person…..touch you?”

    Maybe she wanted to explore?

  189. 189.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    @hovercraft: I have never seen him smile. He sneers but never smiles.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 8:36 pm

    @debbie:
    @Anne Laurie:

    The Queen has met many world leaders who were probably repellent to her personally. Say what you will about monarchy and royalty as a system of government–Elizabeth II is a consummate professional. It’s a State Visit. She will meet him graciously, she will preside at some kind of state dinner in his honour, she will say all the right things during the official toasts–and when he and Melania have finally (finally!) departed, she will kick back with a couple of tall G&Ts and tell Philip many scurrilous stories about Trump’s cloddish behaviour. And laugh and laugh.

  191. 191.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 3, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    @Baud:

    It’s like giving your significant other tube socks for Christmas.

    I don’t see a problem here.

  192. 192.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    Reminder. The movie Moonlight is on more screens, maybe near you. Go see it. It will take your mind off all things Trump for a few hours.

  193. 193.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Say what you will about monarchy and royalty as a system of government–Elizabeth II is a consummate professional.

    I will say that she ought to return her ill gotten gains including the crown jewels.

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    satby

    March 3, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @HeleninEire: You know the Irish, they’ll talk about anything.

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    satby

    March 3, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Queen was “”indisposed” during Trump’s trip and foisted that duty off on Charles.

  196. 196.

    Barbara

    March 3, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @Brachiator: I saw it earlier this week. It is a remarkable film, especially the last half.

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    Shana

    March 3, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    @Kathleen: They’re usually much younger. Picture about 100 toddlers dressed in their new Easter outfits. It’s usually adorable.

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    randy khan

    March 3, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @Joyce H:

    If they had the training, they wouldn’t be able to claim ignorance. “Gollllly, I had no IDEA that was illegal when I did it!”

    Ah, it’s like the Steve Martin defense: Yeah, that’ll work.

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    ruemara

    March 3, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    I will be attempting to get some creative work done and ignore the awful combo of liquid fire and itchy sweater wool that is my sutures. And working eating at least 600-800 calories a day. My appetite has disappeared. I’ve eaten 6 apples, a bag of turkey jerky, a cup of soup, a chicken breast and 20 crackers since Monday. And a croissant a desperate friend showed up with. I suddenly have a bunch of concerned mother hens checking my eating patterns.

    @schrodingers_cat: it’s hard for ghouls to smile and hide their sharpened fangs.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    @satby:

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the Queen was “”indisposed” during Trump’s trip and foisted that duty off on Charles.

    Truly, it wouldn’t surprise me either. And it would be Fuckin Hilarious, as Trump has already made it known that he doesn’t want to meet Charles. Afraid the PoW will lecture him on climate change.

    This entire State Visit already has WIN (or FAIL, depending on your viewpoint) written all over it.

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    Baud

    March 3, 2017 at 8:55 pm

    @ruemara: Feel better.

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    Villago Delenda Est

    March 3, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    @hovercraft: I can’t imagine him playing with children. Because they’d outsmart him within seconds.

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    PIGL

    March 3, 2017 at 8:57 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Buk gua?

  204. 204.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Can you even see him having a good time during any WH event that is not about aggrandizing him?

    Trying to see him pardoning a couple of turkeys at Thanksgiving.

    Failing.

  205. 205.

    ThresherK

    March 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: After his awful meeting with J. Trudeau, and now this, who will be our closest ally in the world in one year? One could hardly plan to piss off best friends more effectively than he seems to be doing naturally.

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    JanieM

    March 3, 2017 at 8:59 pm

    @HeleninEire: What did the woman with the gay son do, or didn’t you get to find out?

    *****

    Every time you write about Ireland I get misty-eyed. I had an Irish girlfriend for several years in the early nineties and was going over there 3 or 4 times a year. I thought I might even move there someday, when my kids were grown. But the relationship ended, and I was bereft at the idea that I wouldn’t be going so often. Well, it’s been 23 years…… I just can’t bring myself to go as a tourist, is part of it. But one of these years I will.

    It sounds like you’re enjoying the place and settling in really well, homophobic women notwithstanding. (I never know what to say in circumstances like that either. I’d have to leave or change the subject just so I wouldn’t lose my temper and make an ass of myself.)

  207. 207.

    p.a.

    March 3, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I know the stereotype of English cuisine is poor, but I bet welldone steak with ketchup will be a first for a state dinner there. Oh yes, and freedom fries.

  208. 208.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    March 3, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    Finally made a connection that has been driving me nuts: the host of My Lottery Dream Home has a perfect sassy Trump voice!

    It’s on now (HGTV) if you want to check.

  209. 209.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @ruemara: When I don’t have any appetite I turn to yogurt and fruit with some nuts on top. I don’t remember whether you are vegan and/or lactose intolerant.

  210. 210.

    p.a.

    March 3, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: If they can genetically engineer an all-white-meat turkey this WH will pardon them all.

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    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    @Brachiator: I am not particularly a Churchill fan, especially with regards to his policies with respect to India. But I don’t think Churchill can be blamed for the partition, it was baked into the British cake long before Churchill was even on the scene.

    ETA: Gillian does look a bit like Edwina but Hugh is too chunky to be Louis.

  212. 212.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @p.a.:

    I know the stereotype of English cuisine is poor

    In all my many trips to the UK, I’ve only ever had one inedible meal, and that was on my first visit in 1959. The boiled potatoes? I swear they were boiled in ammonia. (In York, if anyone cares.)

    If DJT’s advance people make it known that he would like a thoroughly well-done steak with ketchup, then that is what he will be served. Of course, given what we’re hearing about the State Department, the advance team may be thin on the ground. In that case, he’ll eat what’s put in front of him and like it, or Nanny will have something to say.

    (Being Balmoral, I would expect venison and salmon to figure prominently on the menu.)

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    HeleninEire

    March 3, 2017 at 9:15 pm

    @JanieM: I didn’t respond. What the Mom said I do not know. I think she was as stunned as I was.

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    ruemara

    March 3, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Baud: I am, ty Baud. Just itchy.

    @schrodingers_cat: I’m not, but I’m struggling with a cough that my has cannot deal with, so I’m skipping yog for a bit. I just feel terribly full with very little food. Oh well. It’ll pass.

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    SiubhanDuinne

    March 3, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @p.a.:

    Heh.

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    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I think that partition might have been less painful, but it may have been inevitable. Didn’t Jinnah and his followers demand it?

  217. 217.

    efgoldman

    March 3, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @p.a.:

    I bet welldone steak with ketchup will be a first for a state dinner there. Oh yes, and freedom fries

    Aren’t there MickeyD’s and KFC in Scotland?

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    Steve in the ATL

    March 3, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    When I don’t have any appetite I turn to

    Wine. Red. Not from Georgia.

  219. 219.

    J R in WV

    March 3, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @EBT:

    Oh, so good to hear!!

    Have a good time, Seattle was great the one time we visited there – back in 1988!

    Smooth travels homeward, as well!

  220. 220.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    @Brachiator: Its certainly was not managed well. The timetable for withdrawal was expedited by a year. The British just left, leaving utter chaos behind. Think of what happened in Iraq more recently. Nehru and his generation managed that painful transition better for India than Pakistan’s leaders did.

    ETA: Pakistan is an example to humankind that a shared religion is not enough to make a nation. That’s why I find BJP and their talk of Hindu India poisonous.

    Blaming Jinnah or any one person is too simplistic. There is plenty of blame to go around.
    In decreasing order I place the blame on the British rulers of India and their rotten enterprise which was bound to end badly, and the leadership of both the League and Congress from 1930s on.

  221. 221.

    stinger

    March 3, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    Will Trump do that horrid handshake thing he does, yanking the other person toward him to show dominance? Trudeau was too canny for him. He’d jerk the Queen off her feet if he tried it and she wasn’t prepared. But if she is, I’ll bet she too is a master of resistance. I read once where some American woman, an ambassador’s wife or something, shook hands while curtsying (in high heels) and found that she couldn’t rise. She said the Queen realized her predicament and, still smiling, tightened her grip and drew the woman back to a standing position.

  222. 222.

    glory b

    March 3, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @satby: As someone who was in a similar situation, THIS.

  223. 223.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    one of those videos trump doesn’t want you to watch

    It seems to me, he wears his hair like a ferret in the wind.…

  224. 224.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    @ruemara: I hope you feel better soon. Rice and dal is good too, if you want skip yogurt.

  225. 225.

    Miss Bianca

    March 3, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I’m getting all theze pro-Trump, anti-Hillary “Vote Here!” poll ads, which are freaking me da fu out.

  226. 226.

    Brachiator

    March 3, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Oh, I do not blame Jinnah. I respect his expression of nationalism. With Muslim countries in the Middle East demanding independence and self determination, it seems natural that Muslims in India would want to seize the opportunity as well. And after a certain point, the British became irrelevant, and could do little to affect what was happening.

  227. 227.

    schrodingers_cat

    March 3, 2017 at 10:36 pm

    @Brachiator: There are more Muslims in India today, than there are in Pakistan.

  228. 228.

    Slaughter

    March 3, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    @Zinsky: That’s a point Al Franken made a couple of months back. That he never laughs, not that he has a mental illness.

  229. 229.

    Calouste

    March 3, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    @efgoldman: Scotland has invented haggis and the deep-fried mars bar. I’m sure there something to find there that will help T along to his coronary.

  230. 230.

    Calouste

    March 3, 2017 at 11:02 pm

    @ThresherK:

    who will be our closest ally in the world in one year?

    Same as it is now, Russia.

  231. 231.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2017 at 11:06 pm

    @Calouste: Scotch eggs.

  232. 232.

    Hob

    March 4, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    @Served: One little nitpick about that article: “forty percent of those with confirmed H7N9 infections have died” isn’t a very meaningful statement without other numbers for context, like 1. what percentage of flu cases in general were “confirmed” as being of any specific strain, and 2. what percentage of people with confirmed infections of other flu strains died. Depending on the setting, doctors aren’t likely to run viral assays on flu patients as a general rule, so it could be that they’re only bothering to confirm the strain if the patient is already severely ill, in which case there’s no way to know how many people had the same virus but did OK.

    Not saying it’s not serious, this is just a thing to keep in mind when reading articles like this. I’m a little surprised at the sloppy wording there because the author has been on the public health beat for a while.

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