"There is no evidence to support that claim" of Obama ordering Trump wiretapped, a US official tells me.
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) March 4, 2017
Plus they are dumb, you know, but not completely inept. Trump doesn't personally meet fellows named "Alexei" in parking garages.
— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 4, 2017
Of course it’s seriously tragic that the So-Called Leader of the United States (#SCROTUS) is threatening our democracy this way. On the other hand, if we’re gonna re-litigate you-know-what (Waterbedgate?), then at least us aging totebaggers should be able to get some entertainment out of it, yes?
Not only did Obama tap Trump's phones, he stole the strawberry ice cream out of the mess locker.
— Stephen King (@StephenKing) March 4, 2017
@AlGiordano At this rate, the Obama Presidential Library is going to have an entire wing built inside Donald Trump's head.
— Robert Holzer (@RobertHolzer) March 4, 2017
You've got to wonder which political hack who never met Trump before last year is willing to go to jail for him.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) March 4, 2017
amk
Waterbedgate? Why? How?
Chet Murthy
@amk: Oh, c’mon. Golden showers, mattresses, you can do that math *grin*
efgoldman
Oh, it’s already done; the walls are sheetrocked, the wallpaper and paint are finished, the display cases are installed and lighted; all that’s missing are the specific exhibits and explanatory plaques, and they’re going in every day as we speak.
TenguPhule
At this point, I’m not so sure about that.
Trump is that dumb. His minions are that dumb. People who still support him are DUMBER then that.
Red Dawn as Farce, with the Republicans tripping over themselves to support the foreign occupation.
amk
The twitler has trashed so far the military, the judiciary, the justice dept, the congress, all the 3-lettered IC’s, the press, the previous president …
Did I miss anyone else?
Anne Laurie
@amk: Trump’s such a 70s variety of sleazebag, you can totally picture him posing on a waterbed with satin sheets and built-in stereo speakers. And Watering-the-Bed-gate is too long!
TenguPhule
@amk: the constitution and rule of law.
jl
Developing insight from chief political bigshot pundit at CNN….
David GregoryVerified account
@davidgregory
Given how easily Trump loses his cool how might he respond to a provocation from an enemy? What are we learning about his judgment ?
twitter.com/davidgregory/status/838567243734732801
CNN is so damn cute sometimes…
Chet Murthy
@TenguPhule: I’m with Pres. Nixon: even Lord Smallgloves knows to use a cut-out … [this just in, JC Gordon sez it was on Trump’s direct orders that he tampered with the R platform in Cleveland …] erm, I mean, even IF Dampnut were so stupid, Putin’s guys aren’t.
amk
@Anne Laurie: well, there is always #goldenshowersgate.
chopper
it’s the deep state versus the derp state.
The Dangerman
I’ll go the other direction; which one spills it all. My money is on Conway. I think her newest kids are fairly young and no fucking way she’s wearing perp orange for The Orange One.
ETA: OK, I’m slow … who is Dampnut?
TenguPhule
The sole bright spot here is that Trump inspires loyalty like Scientology inspires sanity.
Oatler.
Speaking of obnoxious pledge drives like the one tonight, why don’t these characters beg Exxon to kick in some more green? And instead of tote bags they could show a few of the programs we fell in love with on PBS, and are never seen again: Dave Allen, The Goodies, Monty Python with uncensored tits…
Suzanne
Considering how it is always projection with these assholes, it’s worth wondering who Trump has attempted to illegally wiretap.
chopper
@jl:
wow, about a year late with that deep analysis there, dave-o.
Chet Murthy
@The Dangerman: Hum … there’s an old saying amongst salesmen: “I don’t want to know too much about the product; it gets in the way of being sincere with the customer”. I’d be willing to bet a sawbuck (a nice Belgian beer, eh) that she’s making sure she’s kept in the dark about anything even possibly treasonous. It’s useless to her job, and would only make it harder, if she knew. Totally unnecessary to know the truth, in order to spin complete fabrications.
For my money, it’s gonna be Roger Stone. ISTR reading that in previous iterations of this sad tale (“Rs commit treason; story at 11”) he figured prominently, and somehow always avoided jail time. The implication was that he ratted out his co-conspirators.
Omnes Omnibus
@Oatler.: The public radio station in Columbus, Ohio used to do (still does?) fundraising by announcing at the top of the hour that they would continue regular programming as long as they received x donations in the next hour. It was extortion, but it worked.
burnspbesq
Did these idiots really think that they could talk to the Russian Ambassador without being monitored?
amk
@TenguPhule: Fuck
LBJthe constitution.lollipopguild
I can hear the tour guide now-“Yes on this part of the tour we are actually inside Donald Trump’s head! We are walking, we are walking…….”
lollipopguild
@burnspbesq: Yes, which says a great deal about Gen. Flynn’s level of competence.
burnspbesq
@The Dangerman:
There are some white-collar defense lawyers at her husband’s firm who seriously know their shit. They’ve probably broken more than one 2×4 beating that into her head.
RobertDSC-Mac Mini
@The Dangerman:
Lord Dampnut is an anagram for the current President’s given name.
dmsilev
@Suzanne: Supposedly he had a setup which allowed him to listen in on phone conversations that guests at Mar-a-Lago had using the room phones.
PPCLI
@jl: Gregory is soooo right. If only someone during the election had pointed out that “A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons.” Then he could have seen the light back then.
Lizzy L
From The Hill:
In response to the joint military exercises which the US & South Korea are currently holding in the region, North Korea fired several ballistic missiles this morning (it’s Monday morning there) into the Sea of Japan.
Suzanne
@dmsilev: Just to be creepy, or to listen in on important/sensitive intel stuff?
p.a.
@Chet Murthy:
and if they are that stupid… they’re dead…
Millard Filmore
@lollipopguild: Did you ever hear The Conception Corporation’s Conceptionland … the tour of the Titanic?
” … please stay within the yellow lines and follow the tour guide.”
chopper
@Suzanne:
it’s trump, what do you think?
Suzanne
@chopper: I think he’s just being creepy and gross AF.
debbie
@Omnes Omnibus:
WCBE continues that fine tradition, and they also do a pre-pledge drive where X amount of money will knock a day off the drive. Last time, they took two days off.
Lapassionara
@PPCLI: if only. Words fail.
p.a.
@Millard Filmore: that’s also what you’re told on the tour of tRump’s Moscow hotel room.
Omnes Omnibus
@debbie: Glad to hear it.
efgoldman
@Omnes Omnibus:
We tried that one year when I was at one of the Boston stations. It kept money coming in fairly regularly, but overall fewer
markscontributors joined in.And the whole thing was a lie – it was just a few weeks before a complete format change.
efgoldman
@Suzanne:
Since he was not president nor a candidate at that time, you may draw your own conclusions.
Please make sure to vomit in the other direction.
zhena gogolia
Open thread, so what did everybody think of Victoria? Nice costumes, is all I’ve got to say. Not enough Rufus Sewell, and when he was there he had nothing to do.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Anne Laurie: Leisure Suit Donald.
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: I liked it. It wasn’t Wolf Hall but few things are.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: Fuck Victoria. India became synonymous with wretched poverty as a result of the rapacious reign of the fat bitch. Enormous transfer of wealth took place, genocide by starvation was the official policy.
ETA: Why are shows fluffing British royals so popular in this country? May be the revolution was a bad idea. Why not just join the Commonwealth again.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
But what about LBJ?
efgoldman
@schrodingers_cat:
If something works, you go with it; it worked on a smaller scale in Ireland.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: Him too. Actually, I don’t mind him that much. But for the sake of BJ traditions, sure, why not?
p.a.
@schrodingers_cat:
If this would get rid of tRump and Rethug congress, might be worth considering…
schrodingers_cat
@p.a.: We can go and live in mummy’s basement, adulting is hard.
chopper
@Suzanne:
that’s a good general rule with this fucker.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
I hold no brief for Victoria. I watch it as if it were the latest Sherlock. King Leopold was played by the brewery murderer from Morse, Captain Childers was Farmer Drewe from Downton, Albert was from Miss Marple, his brother was the Gatsby figure on Endeavour, etc., etc.
frosty
@amk: I think you missed Boeing.
Anne Laurie
@Suzanne:
All of them, Katie!
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: Did you like Sherlock. That was a hot mess. The middle episode was somewhat OK but the last one was a total WTF.
ETA: I tried to watch the Hollow Crown but I am unfamiliar with that history so couldn’t follow it. I think I need to see the first series.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: Dear god. Largely because they are well produced shows that don’t require subtitles. Don’t read too much into it. Me, I enjoyed Victoria, but i squirmed inside every time someone said something like “I live to serve Your Majesty.”
catclub
@amk: and yet, in parallel to Churchill, he is still president.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat:
I liked Sherlock until this season. I couldn’t watch the last episode of this season after about the first 20 minutes. I was using the term loosely. I tried to watch the Hollow Crown too, and although the acting was superb, it was too violent for me. Sorry, Will S.!
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: I have been reading up about 1857 and the official Victorian takeover from East India Company. Bad as the East India Company was it never pretended to save India with some misguided notion of the white man’s burden. Victoria’s regime was looting and murder with an extra dose of hypocrisy. Kinda like the religious right, over here (or anywhere else for that matter).
Mai naem.mobile
@efgoldman: Obama’s long form birth certificate will be taking up a huge part of it along with the WHCD where Obama made fun of Lumpy and his teevee show while the OBL raid had just been cimpleted.
Kristine
@Omnes Omnibus: The classical station in Chicago does that, too. It works.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodingers_cat: You will notice that I do not defend the historical Victoria in any way.
Anne Laurie
@Chet Murthy:
Because I’ve hated Roger Stone since he was a fresh little CREEPster in Nixon’s White House, I’m really really hoping Stone’s insane/drunken tweet-bursts last night means the sorry bastid finally got too cocky, left his fingerprints where they couldn’t be buffed away, and is now afraid that some other ratfvcker has beaten him to the sole canary-bird seat.
Even Whitey Bulger had to go on the lam, eventually. And Whitey, give him due credit, knew he was a professional criminal who deserved to end up in jail. Stone’s always thought of himself as a professional “prankster”, jester to every Repub philosopher-king who could be used & abandoned for the lulz (& the lobbyist money).
Trump’s whole campaign / administration is based on “Revenge of the Angry Old White Dudes.” Be a fitting end to the genre if the young hip-by-early-70s-Repub-standard guy with the Nixon tattoo on his back ends up an old man dragged off to jail, raving, because Steve ‘Fat Termite’ Bannon’s would-be-kingmakers can’t even run a halfway professional job of election-stealing!
Villago Delenda Est
@Chet Murthy: Stone is an utter weasel. He was competing with Donald for “most unhinged Twitter personality” last night.
Villago Delenda Est
@Lizzy L: Every March, there’s a big exercise in the ROK called “Team Spirit”. It’s been going on for decades, nothing new, but the NKs get all excited about it.
Mai naem.mobile
I know that I am little slow sometimes but I’m wondering if this wiretap story was planted in Breitbart/Alex Jones/Infowars by the IC to get Dolt 45 to react. Maybe I’ve watched too many police shows, but kind of like how cops will lie to the suspect of his co-conspirator tattling to the cops to get this suspect to admit to the crimes.
efgoldman
@Villago Delenda Est:
What do you have against weasels?
Lizzy L
@Villago Delenda Est: I do recall that. What I don’t recall is if they usually respond by sending missiles into the Sea of Japan.
I am mildly freaked not by the NKs but by my own imagination, which is drawing pictures of Donald Trump alone (except for the Secret Service and the help) at Mar-a-Lago or the White House or Trump Tower, when someone brings him word that the North Koreans are sending missiles toward Japan during a military exercise — and he decides it’s time for him to demonstrate to the world that HE, Trump, is now CoC.
And then I go looking for the brandy.
burnspbesq
@efgoldman:
They didn’t get all of us.
charon
I only watched the first 3 episodes of Victoria, got too bored and bailed. It resembled Downton Abbey too much, another show I bailed on.
efgoldman
@burnspbesq:
They didn’t get all the Indians – much more numerous than even the good catholic Irish with a zillion kids – either.
sukabi
@Suzanne: everyone Katie…
sukabi
@Suzanne: does it matter…probably both.