Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Lick the third rail, it tastes like chocolate!

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

The willow is too close to the house.

Wake up. Grow up. Get in the fight.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

We still have time to mess this up!

When I was faster i was always behind.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

Bark louder, little dog.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

They are not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

The revolution will be supervised.

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Early-Morning TrumpRyanCare (No) Progress Update Open Thread

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  1. 1.

    Calming Influence

    The Republicans are not marketing this healthcare plan as well as they could. They need to emphasize the intermediate step: “…and then a miracle happens!!”

    That would surely convince the doubters.

  4. 4.

    Keith P.

    Paul Ryan may not survive the AHCA fiasco. Too many conservatives are calling for his head

  5. 5.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    @Keith P.:

    When Marlow finally makes it to Kurtz in the depths of the rainforest, he finds a disturbing site. The poles outside Kurtz’ home are not merely decorative balls. They are human heads.

    Kurtz has either suffered or chosen a break with the morals of society. He has become a savage – much more savage than the figures in the novel who are given the moniker “savage”.

    ‘‘The horror! The horror!’’ With this utterance, Kurtz presumably realizes the depth to which his unbridled greed and brutality have brought him.

  6. 6.

    TriassicSands

    @Calming Influence:

    I think you’re onto something. It is important for them to emphasize the role that the Baby Jesus will play in this plan. True believers will get lower premiums, lower out of pocket expenses, better care, and reservations at the Heavenly Trump Palace when their luck finally runs out. Non-believers? Screw ’em.

    Paul Ryan is obviously a devout Christian. The dead giveaway is his overwhelming compassion for the poor and vulnerable. Therefore, I’m sure his health care plan was inspired by the combined teachings of Ayn Rand and Jesus, who despite Rand’s atheism are perfectly compatible in the diseased minds of Republicans.

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    John Waldron

    I understand on how horrendous Trumpcare will be. However I have not seen an analyses of its impact on employment in the health care field. My assumption is Trumpcare reduces by a huge number those that will buy health insurance or use health care for preventive care (will only being using it in the ER) so what happens to all the PT and OT and medical tech people if they are not being used by medical clinics and hospitals. Anyone aware of the impact?

  12. 12.

    FlipYrWhig

    @John Waldron: From what Republicans in Congress are saying, they seem to expect that the insurance people get on the individual market _now_ will be completely decimated, but that that’s a good thing, because companies will be rolling out a lot of exciting _new_ insurance products they can buy, and then they’ll be covered again, so when you think of it, they come out ahead. GAAAAH

  13. 13.

    John Waldron

    @FlipYrWhig: Understand, but won’t we lose significant numbers of medical care jobs instead of adding employment in this area…anybody have numbers?

  14. 14.

    SFAW

    @John Waldron:

    However I have not seen an analyses of its impact on employment in the health care field.

    Health insurance CEOs will probably do stunningly well, and isn’t that all that really matters?

    Well, that, plus the ability of Shitgibbon, Ryan, and other Rethugs to skim as much money as they can grab.

  15. 15.

    Fermion T. Clown

    @John Waldron:

    Same thought occurred to me.

    Guessing it’s not just goodness of their hearts, bless their souls!, that has led all the professional medical and health care organizations to oppose Trumpentodt.

  16. 16.

    lollipopguild

    @SFAW: Some people who work in the field of medicine will probably lose their jobs. People who work in funeral homes and cemetaries will be busier.

  17. 17.

    Betty

    Rural hospitals are likely to close, causing a loss of care in the community and a loss of jobs.where jobs are scarce already.

  18. 18.

    StringOnAStick

    @Betty: I saw a study that had 1/3 of the rural hospitals in Colorado closing. It also noted that for many of those towns, the hospital was the largest employer.

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    VOR

    @lollipopguild: I haven’t read it, but my understanding is the CBO report forecast a $3B improvement in Social Security outlays because of people dying earlier due to lack of health insurance.

  20. 20.

    Tokyokie

    And if the cuts adversely affect the elderly, I would expect a lot of nursing homes to close as well.

  21. 21.

    Xenos

    What is the point of a work requirement? Something like 90% of medicaid goes to children, the elderly, and people who have already been proven to be too sick to work.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Xenos: Everyone but the .01% will eventually be required to “work” to get their daily ration of gruel.

  23. 23.

    steverinoCT

    In the early 90s I remember reading an article in the Navy base paper about a spouse who needed a lung transplant of some kind. The treatment was ruled “experimental” by the TriCare (or whatever it was at the time) system and she wasn’t covered. The article says she (an early-20s wife of an enlisted man) had about a year to live without the operation. Often wonder what became of her.

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